Top Five Tips For Using AstroHopper + BONUS Tip

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  • @alexandrevaliquette3883
    @alexandrevaliquette3883 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for this update.. AstroHopper fit my tight budget!

  • @GrnXnham
    @GrnXnham Рік тому +10

    I have another tip.
    I just downloaded this "app" today and tried it on my 12 inch dob tonight. At first I was frustrated at how easily it got out of alignment. Then I realized that the CLOSER you can get your phone to the exact top center of the telescope, the less it gets out of alignment. The first time I used it, I just quickly taped the phone on there but I was actually a little off center on the scope. So I repositioned it and got it as close to the top center as I could and alignment problem solved.

  • @karenmadtes1174
    @karenmadtes1174 10 місяців тому +4

    Its a good idea to put the velcro with the little hooks on your scope tube and the loop velcro tape on your phone. Not too much is going to try to attach itself to your scope but the same can't be said of your phone if it has little mini-grabbers in a big strip on the back.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  10 місяців тому

      I'm liking the velcro idea more and more. I have some old phone cases that I might use for that specific task.

  • @vicamaral
    @vicamaral Рік тому +3

    love these video, thanks to you i no longer need the 3 or 4 finder scopes that i own, the free Astrohopper works great 👏👏🔭🏁, you are AMAZING.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I'm glad the videos were helpful! In all honesty, Mr. Beilis did all the hard work by creating Astro Hopper. All I did was demonstrate it. :) Clear skies!

  • @davegudewicz1311
    @davegudewicz1311 22 дні тому +1

    Could not find link to the double-sided suction cups which seems to be maybe the best idea for attaching the phone to the telescope. Thanks for the video. 👍

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  22 дні тому

      Thank you for letting me know! Here is the link: amzn.to/4fbYTGY

    • @davegudewicz1311
      @davegudewicz1311 20 днів тому +1

      @@AstronomyGarage Those linked above are not the ones you showed in the video. They are meant for flat surfaces. While they might work, I'd be concerned using them on a rounded surface. I think the Pawfly 20 pack double sided suction cups either 1.2" or 0.8" were the ones shown in the video.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  19 днів тому +1

      Thank you. That direct link was a mistake. Amazon won't let me put direct links to the actual suction cups anymore. I have to instead put a link to the "category search". Here is the updated link: amzn.to/3D60fpw

  • @timothykoch4721
    @timothykoch4721 Рік тому +8

    There are several different motorcycle phone mounts which could easily be adapted to mount onto a telescope tube as a semi-permanent base for the phone. Just an idea for something designed to withstand the extremes of temperature.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      That is a great idea! I was not aware that such things existed. As you mentioned, I'm sure the materials they use have been heat tested.

  • @JoeJaguar
    @JoeJaguar Рік тому +1

    very cool advice. I was thinking when i get around to it i will try the velcro way but not i will also consider the cups as well.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      I didn't even know the double-sided suction cups existed until a viewer told me about them. Seems like the perfect solution.

  • @egrava2297
    @egrava2297 Рік тому +1

    I think that this will be a good use for my old cell phone that I had to upgrade. The wifi, and sensors still work great

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      That's a great idea! Be sure to install AstroHopper permanently while on WiFi, then you can use it anytime anywhere (even without cell service).

  • @KristoferSanders
    @KristoferSanders 6 місяців тому +1

    @Reflactor I used 4 to inch wide neoprene tape to form a pad. Then I cut strips to build up a frame around the cellphone; you can leave a space at the bottom for charging cord if your have a power bank.
    This was because it was all I had on hand when I learned about Astrohopper.
    I went outside and observed the ring nebula which was at near Zenith. The neoprene pad with edges built up held the phone in near straight vertical position. No problems. It is grippy enough for this. And provides protection of the tube.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the tip! That sounds like an excellent way to solve the problem. Admittedly, that would've taken a lot less time than the 3D print that I did, lol.

  • @KZgun4hire
    @KZgun4hire Рік тому +2

    The way I attach my phone to the scope is via a phone to eye piece adapter/carrier. The eye piece holder detaches from the carrier cradle to expose a nut thread that is compatible with the bolt thread sticking out the top of most tube rings. Very easy to attach and leave cradle on the scope tube ring and just slip the phone in or out of the cradle!

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      It's nice that telescope companies and camera companies all settled on that 1/4-20 screw thread for the accessories attachment. I'm glad you have a convenient setup!

  • @jackieblank4249
    @jackieblank4249 Рік тому +2

    Great video John. Have been learning to use Astrohopper as much as I can. A little at a time. I stuck my phone on with Velcro strips. Works great and stays put.Sorry to see what happened to ur mount. Thanks for the PSA on leaving things in your auto. In this heat. Clouds rolling in Baton Rouge. Clear sky's to you.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I was pretty surprised when I opened the car door and saw it all warped like a pretzel. I guess the cars here in Texas get a bit warm! Fortunately, our humidity is not quite what you see in Baton Rouge.

  • @stevenemert837
    @stevenemert837 2 місяці тому +1

    Could you consider a slight modification to the phone holder? Rather than using linked rubber bands to attach the holder to the scope, I like to use 1" wide double sided Velcro strips. By adding a thin layer of RTV silicone sealer across the length of the bottom of the feet, the stickiness of the RTV keeps the bracket from slipping, and the Velcro is a more robust strap than rubber bands. But it would be easier to tighten up the Velcro strap if it was looped to itself on one side of the holder, then pulled tight and looped to itself again on the other side of the holder. To do that, the center ovals could be squared up and a horizontal bar could be put in the middle of the opening, allowing the Velcro to be looped around it.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  2 місяці тому

      That's an excellent idea. Right now, it could use long velcro or belts to hold it on, but the RTV would keep it from sliding around. My issue is that I'm not the greatest of CAD designers.

  • @hednik
    @hednik Рік тому +1

    Great tips and follow up from the last video

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching! I tried to include all the loose ends that I could think of.

  • @cdz9400
    @cdz9400 Рік тому +2

    Hey! So I downloaded this after your last video and it works really well! I still haven't been able to see anything because I am very much an amateur at this hobby, but I know the app works cause it lines up with my red dot finder

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +2

      I'm glad you were able to get it to work. So, the key step is to do that first alignment. Find a star in the sky that you know the name of. Point your telescope at it (through the eyepiece too). Then push the Align button on AstroHopper and touch the star as it's displayed on the screen. After about three seconds, it will be aligned and you'll be off to the races!

    • @artyombeilis9075
      @artyombeilis9075 Рік тому +3

      One of the biggest issues when you begin and can't find an object is selecting an easy stuff to see.
      Start from Open clusters - they are easiest and quite visible even from light polluted areas.

  • @seanhb
    @seanhb Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the update. Astrohopper is a super enhancement to the dobsonian experience. Velcro seemed like an obvious solution, and I've been using it from the get-go. Works fine.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad the Velcro is working for you. Clear skies!

  • @dumpydalekobservatory
    @dumpydalekobservatory Рік тому +1

    Brilliant work John we've still yet to use it here in the UK but as we don't have any astronomical darkness at the moment we'll probably wait till late August.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      Sorry to hear that. Same here in Texas. Normally it's very dry here by June, but we've had unusual rain and insane humidity. And... clouds. Lots and lots of clouds. In the meantime, I'm focusing on telescope maintenance. Good luck and I hope dark skies return soon to you!

  • @springbloom5940
    @springbloom5940 Рік тому +2

    I use a camera tripod phone adapter, mounted to my scope. Its solid, adjustable and provides enough standoff from the tube to prevent magnetic interference.
    Ive never used astrohopper, because of the internet necessity. I use Skye and I presume from what I have seen, that its basically the same operating principle. The way I get a good alignment is tedious, but produces superior results. I align off of a large triangle of bright stars at the zenith, then I do a large constellation at about 20 - 30 degrees altitude toward the West and finally Polaris. I can get the target in the field of view of a 32mm plossl, about 90% of the time. The alignment drifts over time, so I frequently swing the scope around the axes to recalibrate the phone sensors. I also add everything I view, as an alignment point, so its constantly refining.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I'm glad you have a mount setup that gets you some distance. AstroHopper can be installed permanently if you want to go off-grid to and still use it.

  • @KZgun4hire
    @KZgun4hire Рік тому +2

    My issue is astro hopper is the phone vs the telescope tube. My tube is ferric so when I move the phone close to towards the tube the compass spins off axis. Watching your video a can possibly align astro hopper away from the scope and then turn off the compass and attach it to the scope!!! I'll give this a go!!!

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      You don't even have to go to all that trouble (as I've just found out recently). The compass isn't all that necessary with AstroHopper. It's only used at the very start to get the image "close" to being lined up. Once you do the alignment step once, it ignores the compass from that point on and uses the rate gyro (until the display screen goes to sleep, then it defaults back to the compass and you have to do another realignment.). Clear skies, and good luck!

  • @landtechnik4k
    @landtechnik4k Рік тому +2

    i realy like your Astro tips. 😊

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I hope they are helpful. Thank you for watching. Clear skies!

  • @hakman239
    @hakman239 Рік тому +1

    Could you do a video on how to use sky view with a dobsonian it won’t work with the phone on the tube it needs to be mounted vertical to the finder bracket

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I'm afraid I don't have Sky View. I use StarSeek5 to do all of my finding when not using a telescope. If using a telescope, I switch over to AstroHopper.

  • @josephmackrell9911
    @josephmackrell9911 Рік тому +1

    Hi-
    What are the dimensions of the phone adapter? The machine I have access to has 6.5 x 6.5 x 7"high max dimensions.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      The dimensions are 7 inches by 4.5 inches by 1.125 inches.

  • @benle4
    @benle4 Рік тому +2

    I brought a MagSafe magnet for my tube and stuck it with 3m tape. I now have a telescope with MagSafe technology!
    iPhones have magnets built in now (MagSafe) so does not affect its use.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the information! I don't know much about Apple products, but I think this will help lots of people. Clear skies!

  • @Amradar123
    @Amradar123 Рік тому

    I used an old phone case and attached it to the telesope tube using double sided sticky tape.I do however use the Skeye android app to find objects as it can do waaaay more than Astrohopper.

  • @terrybrooks395
    @terrybrooks395 Рік тому +1

    Aha, only using the compass initially makes a big difference to its usability, I assume you can point to a star with the scope, select that samecatar in Astrohopper and sync on it?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      You are correct - the magnetometer is only used prior to the first alignment - after that it's all gyros. And technically, if you push the hand icon, it detaches from the magnetometer completely and you can swing the image left and right (using finger swipes) until your target is in sight.

  • @MrMlyarber
    @MrMlyarber Рік тому +1

    Can I mount it to where the finder was through brackets?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      That's a very clever idea. Very convenient too. I looked on Thingiverse to see if such a part already exists, and it doesn't. Not yet at least.

  • @douglashall6890
    @douglashall6890 Рік тому +1

    what about double sided reusable tape, I am going to try it.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Anything is worth a try. If you plan to leave it attached permanently, then I think double-sided sticky tape would work great.

  • @platypusrex2287
    @platypusrex2287 3 місяці тому +1

    That's why I print with ABS more temp tolerant than PLA ... Especially in AZ..

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  3 місяці тому

      I tried printing with PLA and that lasted about 30 seconds - the smell was simply too awful, even in the garage.

  • @dengaye232
    @dengaye232 Рік тому +1

    Hi I see this isn’t great with an eq mount, have you tried your Eq scope to dobsonian hack to see if it works, thx Dennis

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I haven't tried it mainly because the tube rotates so much, it would be a hassle to track. However, there are people who have tried to come up with clever solutions to this problem.

  • @azka9075
    @azka9075 8 місяців тому +1

    I own an at72edii so i just use rubber bands to tie my phone around the dew shield of the scope

  • @HeyApos
    @HeyApos Рік тому +1

    Hi there, if you print this with e.g., PC, this would not bend (needs 270° hot end, 100° bed and a housing). Also, this will be UV resistant. Same is with ASA. THX for the Idea.
    The problem using Velcro (which I used in ATM in former times very much) is, even if you have very good quality ones and which are at least 50 mm wide, they tend to fall off, when exposed to high temperatures (25° plus). This might hold for parts, that do not weigh much. Nowadays, I only use 3D printed Vixen-like adapters, that are screwable (like a mount for the finder). It's very easy to construct and print.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Thanks for the tip! Admittedly, my 3D printing experience is limited to PLA. I tried ABS and that lasted about two minutes due to the horrific odor. I will have to try the alternative materials that you mentioned. Do you think it would help to epoxy the Velcro strips on? Or perhaps use a silicon adhesive?

    • @HeyApos
      @HeyApos Рік тому

      @@AstronomyGarage Polycarbonate (PC) also bends like ABS. So you have to use high bed temperature and a housing. Also it might be good to reduce the surface by adding some bigger holes to your design. This reduces bending.
      Velcro: it would not glue anything to the instrument / phone. Probably the Velcro is ok. It tends to fall off under load. So using the phone attached only at night should be not problem.

  • @andynowlen
    @andynowlen Рік тому

    I love it. A 6th grade neighbor points all around. 😊. …… Do you know of anyone using AH on an old manual SCT.? Any reason it wouldn’t work?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      As long as it's an alt-azimuth mount, you should be okay. It doesn't work on equatorial mounts.

  • @AlternateRealityMusic
    @AlternateRealityMusic 5 місяців тому +2

    Tip for any moto-astronomers: Most motorbike phone mounts great for a fantastic astrohopper mount

  • @stephensinksen7259
    @stephensinksen7259 10 місяців тому +1

    Will Astrohopper work on an equatorial mount?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  10 місяців тому

      Unfortunately no. The rotation of the tube will mess up the elevation angle readings.

  • @JayeshNahata
    @JayeshNahata 2 місяці тому

    Hello actually astrohopper is showing wrong time in the device and the map is also wrong like the moon is up but its showing down so can you please help me?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  2 місяці тому

      Please feel free to contact the developer. He is very responsive (his link is on the Astrohopper website).

  • @AAE-cg1il
    @AAE-cg1il 28 днів тому +1

    If you print with PETG it can handle the heat…..and the UV from the sun.

  • @hakman239
    @hakman239 Рік тому +1

    I couldn’t use it every time my phone screen went to sleep it needed realignment is that normal I glued magnets to my case🤦‍♂️

    • @hednik
      @hednik Рік тому

      I'd set it to no screen timeout when using it. Maybe some. Goo gone and a razor blade?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      I would try a different mount method than the magnets. I'm hearing that Velcro is great. Unless your phone has a really high-end magnetometer, the magnets might mess with AstroHopper startup (you can still do alignment, but the compass won't give you that initial "close enough" setting).

    • @kennethkovachy8295
      @kennethkovachy8295 Рік тому +1

      The video was great. I have used setting circles for years. And when I saw this I was pretty skeptical but the video did a great job explaining how to use it. I was amazed how well it worked. I have a newer phone used velcro but I'm going to make a better mount for it. With my setting circles, I get in the general area sometimes in the eyepiece field of view. With Astro Hopper, everything is almost centered in my eyepiece. It definitely is going to obsolete a go-to telescope. Excited to use it on Neptune and Uranus. Sometimes I have a little bit of a hard time even with my settings circles seeing it, but with Astro Hopper I know I'm going to be right in the middle of my eyepiece

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      @@kennethkovachy8295 I agree with your points. It will make the search feature for GoTo's obsolete. Now if we could get it to track a target, that would be way too cool. Thank you for the kind words!

  • @aniket789
    @aniket789 8 місяців тому

    Does this app work for an equatorial mount?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  8 місяців тому

      Good question, no it does not. I wish I would've addressed that in the video. The vast majority of my videos are alt-az videos, but your question is a good question.

  • @phthisics
    @phthisics Рік тому

    Phone cradle adapter to curved surface: ZEEHOO Dashboard Pad Mounting Disk [Perfect for Curved & Textured Surface] for Wireless Car Charger & Car Phone Mount Holder, Adhesive Suction Disc 80mm for Garmin GPS Sat Nav Dash Cam. Found it on Amazon.
    Your mounting plate sounds perfect. unfortunately I don't own a 3D printer. Would I need to find a 3D printing service?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Many libraries offer access to a 3D printer, but this takes several hours to print.

  • @simoneferrari6568
    @simoneferrari6568 Рік тому

    What do you think about Ziel telescopes?

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      I've honestly never heard of them, but there are a lot of manufacturers out there.

  • @brandtdales
    @brandtdales Рік тому

    I'm having a problem downloading it so I can use it like an app ???

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому

      Here are the official installation instructions. If this doesn't work, please contact the developer Artyom Beilis:
      Installing AstroHopper
      AstroHopper is a Progressive Web Application. It can be installed as regular application on your smart phone. Once it is installed it is fully accessible offline. You can also run AstroHopper as a demo on a laptop computer.
      In order to install the application, open the URL artyom-beilis.github.io/astrohopper.html and install it.
      Android/Chrome - tap on "..." near the URL, and select "Install App" or "Add to Home Screen"
      Samsung Browser - tap on ↓ symbol near URL
      Android/Firefox - tap on "..." near the URL, and select "Install"
      Android/Edge - tap on "..." at the bottom and select "Add to Phone"
      iPhone/Safari - tap the "Share" button (a square with an arrow pointing up) scroll down and select "Add to Home Screen"
      The application will be installed on home screen or in applications screen - depending on browser.
      To test if AstroHopper works offline:
      Close all applications/browsers
      Put your phone in "Flight/Airplane" mode, make sure WiFi is closed
      Tap on application icon and make sure it works.
      You can usually update the installed version of AstroHopper by refreshing the page. If this does not work for your browser, uninstall it and reinstall from scratch.

  • @anthonyhitchings1051
    @anthonyhitchings1051 3 місяці тому +1

    so this will not work when we have no WWW access - like way out in dark sky country

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  3 місяці тому

      Good question. Part 1 of the video talks about how to set it up to work offline.

  • @rbc1225
    @rbc1225 3 місяці тому +1

    Just an FYI, it doesn't look like the IOS tip works anymore, or at least I could not get it to work.

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  3 місяці тому

      That's good to know. Please contact the developer - he may have a quick fix for you already.

  • @draconomicron1188
    @draconomicron1188 Рік тому

    If you give me the diameter of your telescope I can draw one exact phone holder

  • @martijnbouma1
    @martijnbouma1 3 місяці тому

    I have a briliant method for using astrohopper with telescope. If you are interested I can sent a photo. Dont know how to get that to you though

  • @TonerLow
    @TonerLow 6 місяців тому

    Watches 1st video: goes and buys $40 worth of magnets.
    Watches 2nd video: F%&$!!

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  6 місяців тому

      All is not lost. You can still use the magnets. AstroHopper only uses the magnetometer at the very beginning prior to your first alignment. Once you do the first alignment, manually, it uses the built-in gyro from then on, so there shouldn't be any problem. Also, if they are strong magnets, you can re-purpose them for a great adjustable telescope counterweight: ua-cam.com/video/595eMvKvuQQ/v-deo.html

  • @Hilmi12
    @Hilmi12 Рік тому

    Just don't use PLA plastic. Print it in ABS or PETG and you can leave it in your car forever. PLA is for useless toys in my opinion

    • @AstronomyGarage
      @AstronomyGarage  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for that information. I am slowly learning more and more about 3D printing.