Cliff great effort, your best bet at slow flying will come from throttle control. The RL A560 is like most profile 3d planes, light and over powered for 3d maneuvers. Jeff in LA USA
Alas, the slower it flies, the less drag the air-brakes generate, so by the time it's slowed down to a nice crawl the lack of airflow means the extra brakes are adding weight but no appreciable drag. So, ironically, you need to fly even faster to stay airborne. I think full-span flaps on a very deeply undercambered wing [e.g. a 4" chord with ¾" of 'banana'] might help slow things down whilst the plane is still travelling forwards and performing manoeuvres. Generating a ridiculous amount of lift (and drag) rather than just more drag might be the way to go.🤔 It's really interesting and fun to see your experiments, Cliff; please keep 'em coming!
Great effort Cliff! I still would love to see you get one of the Fokkers from Twisted Hobby's. Larger and lighter than the A560...and it looks like a Fokker DR1, but a 3D profile version!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks, I have been tempted a couple of times actually Adam but always seemed to have had other things to work on, perhaps one day 🤔🙂
you want to try carrier landings with landing wires that will sharpen your flying like a lead pencil use a rubber puck on the landing wire to absorb the shock of the arrester wire. happy new year
Further to James Baker's comment, the purpose of the brakes is to prevent acceleration during descending manoeuvres - like the second half of a loop. You didn't do anything like that, so in my view, you didn't do anything that the brakes could help with. But to James' point, try to find a finer pitched larger diameter, larger blade area prop (that the motor can handle), that gives you the _slow_ flying speed that you want at near _full throttle_. A propeller like this will be a drag brake in itself, when the throttle is cut back during the descending part of manoeuvres. My 2 cents worth ...
Well the brakes caused a nose-up effect, possibly due to a bigger one on the top surface plus I'll have to move them back!
Cliff great effort, your best bet at slow flying will come from throttle control. The RL A560 is like most profile 3d planes, light and over powered for 3d maneuvers. Jeff in LA USA
Trouble is Jeff I'm not sure it's that light 🙂
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes You hit the nail on the head there Cliff.
Hi Cliff. You may have more success if you fit a real slow fly propeller so it flys slowly even at full power. Just a thought. 😊
Cool idea James 🤔
@CliffHarveyRCPlanes how about fitting some wing and tail fences? 🤔
It should slow things down on vertical descents. Elsewhere the power will overcome the drag. Good effort!!
Thanks Paul 👍
Salut Cliff . Étonnant cette traduction de ta vidéo ! Merci pour toutes tes vidéos 👍👍
Thanks for the feedback, cheers 🙂👍
Alas, the slower it flies, the less drag the air-brakes generate, so by the time it's slowed down to a nice crawl the lack of airflow means the extra brakes are adding weight but no appreciable drag. So, ironically, you need to fly even faster to stay airborne.
I think full-span flaps on a very deeply undercambered wing [e.g. a 4" chord with ¾" of 'banana'] might help slow things down whilst the plane is still travelling forwards and performing manoeuvres. Generating a ridiculous amount of lift (and drag) rather than just more drag might be the way to go.🤔
It's really interesting and fun to see your experiments, Cliff; please keep 'em coming!
Interesting thoughts Eleanor, thanks 👍
Great effort Cliff! I still would love to see you get one of the Fokkers from Twisted Hobby's. Larger and lighter than the A560...and it looks like a Fokker DR1, but a 3D profile version!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks, I have been tempted a couple of times actually Adam but always seemed to have had other things to work on, perhaps one day 🤔🙂
Seems alright to me Cliff. Just practice.
I'd just like it to fly a little slower Nick but the more bits I add the heavier and therefore faster it becomes, I'm thinking indoors now 🤔
you want to try carrier landings with landing wires that will sharpen your flying like a lead pencil use a rubber puck on the landing wire to absorb the shock of the arrester wire. happy new year
Thanks Barry, great idea, cheers 🤔
very cool!
Thanks Collin, all good fun 🙂
Further to James Baker's comment, the purpose of the brakes is to prevent acceleration during descending manoeuvres - like the second half of a loop. You didn't do anything like that, so in my view, you didn't do anything that the brakes could help with.
But to James' point, try to find a finer pitched larger diameter, larger blade area prop (that the motor can handle), that gives you the _slow_ flying speed that you want at near _full throttle_. A propeller like this will be a drag brake in itself, when the throttle is cut back during the descending part of manoeuvres. My 2 cents worth ...
Thanks Richard, I'll see what I can find, cheers 👍
Pretty impressive flying there even if the drag brakes weren't a great success. Does the gyro make stuff like the prop hanging much easier?
I don't think so Bob, it's only in gyro mode, the RadioLink tx has a special switch for hanging which I'm not using 🤔🙂