UFC killed wrestling in 2 ways. One is the fans can now see real violence of multiple styles instead of similated. Yes boxing existed but thats only punches. The other is the charismatic tough guys go into MMA now, not wrestling. In the 70s or 80s, a tough guy may try out a territory, but now he's in an MMA gym.
It's absolutely the weird fans of today. They cheer what sucks and boo whats good. They cry and demand what they're not owed and ultimately dont show up.
i was looking at the crowd and i know its nothing,but it appears most of the crowd are white guys under 45...theres hardly any kids or women esp in the first 10 rows...even back 7 or 8yrs ago you had more kids,women and over 70s...95% of the crowds are guys under 45y..
Honestly I've been watching old school stuff on Peacock. Wrestling is too sports driven now. I think TKO is pushing that more. Lack of characters and gimmicks. It's all about the flipping off the top rope bullshit.
Right? Like there's no soul anymore. Lack of covincing heroes and villians. Every week just feels like the same. A lot of 80s and 90s stuff is dated, but dammn it has that energy that still gets me excited.
Do you think huge part of the decline was that wrestling as an artform is just outdated? Like radio or cable, people are just not interested in wrestling as there are newer and better things to spend time on? Also, I know that if you have guys like tony and triple h being the head of wrestling, its never going to be mainstream again (nerd/jobber bookers), but it just seems that people are not interested in wrestling as whole anymore, especially compared to the 90s
It's alot like comicbooks and comicbook movies. They aren't outdated just look at anime and manga. That business is exploding. People aren't tired of them. We just have dogshit fatigue. If the wresting product was better, more people would watch. Just look at what the Rock did for like 3months.
It's not that. I's that wrestling is f****** lame. And the guys we see on our TV are talentless dorks. If there were big men and big personalities still in wrestling , it would still be popular. Some decline is normal, but not from 5 - 10 million to now barely a million. Come on. Even loyal fans have walked away because it's complete crap now.
wwe keeps giving the most annoying wrestlers tv time such as otis and chad or bronson reid..none of them will ever be world champion...also the women getting 4 or more segments just sucks...
@@georgealvarez1195yeah you're right. I was really tuning into that shit not being able to wait like I was watching an episode of the flash or the boys. And this was 2024 despite being an adult, knowing it's script, different ways to stream. Yeah good point.
@@R-MAN-mp5tw there’s no proof of it booming in the ratings, no average person out in public talks about Pro Wrestling, it’s a nerd fanbase not a sports fanbase. It’s like me asking someone if they watch Naruto and they either say yes or no
@@R-MAN-mp5twnot a single person I know irl has any clue about modern Wrestling. The last I spoke about the topic was 2014 & then maybe The Rock's promos were everywhere. Other than that nobody even gaf about Roman Reigns.
WWE is still going pretty strong you think that merger they did with UFC was for nothing? Trust me these people aren’t dumb they know the power WWE has and will continue and always will be popular
I think he realizes a lot of his content is unpopular opinions but he’s the hater a lot of the time he just trolling but not gon lie it’s kinda hard to watch raw or aew without cringing
@@flizzy4645what you call football is actually rugby you don't even the basics of names you call it football when they don't play with their feet this is hilarious. Also your real fights are also scripted because they also know who will lose because people bet money on it. You live under a rock?
Getting into Professional Wrestling is an equivalent to getting into an Anime Show like Naruto or One Piece, that’s how small the fanbase has gotten over time. It used to be as popular as the NFL and NBA at one point in time during the Golden Era and Attitude Era
No it isnt. Its not popular. Maybe its popular with the people u hang with at yugioh tournaments lol. It's not watched by cool people and is mostly enjoyed by neckbeards like u
Because there's an entertainment bubble where companies are paying premium for content makers. But when that bubble subsides, WWE will have to get by on how much it draws. It's going to fail eventually.
betting is why NBA, NFL get high ratings plus sports bars aren’t playing WWE or AEW but they have real sports. Wrestling will never be mainstream again. Die hard fans will still support but casual fans and new fans won’t.
11 billion for gambling revenue in the us making it the 2nd largest next to the uk those numbers are from 2021 its even more prevasive now @thehater6189
@MA-ne8ig that is a tiny market compared to the nfl alone. Just the dallas cowboys are worth like 10 billion. Thus, the statement that betting leads to high ratings is just wrong
It’s really simple. Wrestling is no longer popular because they can’t create stars anymore. It was Hogan and Warrior, then Austin and Rock, then Cena and Batista, now to fucking no one. It’s that simple guys, no stars = lack of interest.
Hogan described this best. There is no more big star, no uniqueness. the star of the show is the product. Hulk hogan, warrior, cena, rock, austin. They stood out because they had something unique. Nowadays every wrestler is basically the same.
I used to believe their 'all tv ratings are down' bullshit, until I saw that RAW was the 80th most viewed show on cable in 2022 lol. Wrestling is dead as fuck and is nowhere close to the public imagination outside of millenials occassionally being nostalgic about funny stuff from the 90s and 00s
What are you talking about ?! In terms of AEW, yes theyve gone downhill in viewership since last year. But in terms of WWE, they ate at an all time high in viewership right now 😂. Scratch that, ever since 2021 their numbers have gone up. TNA, AAA, NJPW to name a few have also been doing really well in their respective areas
What part confused you? One episode of raw in 2001 would get more viewers than everything you mentioned combined. Wrestling was actually cool and cool people liked it. Now its liked by anime dorks
Nah bro, TNA may has a partnership with WWE but I don't find anything that interesting in the company personnally, AAA is easily the worst wrestling promotion in the world and NJPW is in a decline just like AEW.
Im may be wrong and if i am i will stand corrected. AEW was such a good product. It was exciting and had that anything could happen factor. The storylines were good and were consistent and done properly. The in ring product was the car crash tv it is now. I would never miss a minute of the show and actually looked forward to Wednesday nights. Im not saying that things were not going down before. But they have never recovered from that whole cm punk young bucks bullshit.
Well, personally I've moved on from wrestling , I stick to mma and boxing , cause initially, I was drawn into it by guys like HHH, Cena, Batista and Orton, but then during the rise of Punk I got turned off by the fact that he doesn't look like a physical threat to guys like Cena and Batista, so why is he world champion🤷🏾♂️ and I was 9 or 10 years old at this time, but I stopped watching , and I picked it back up when Roman's push began which was around and I loved the shield also, and I kept watching all the way to 2021 and Punk returned , so I thought to myself , let me see what I missed with his this guy cause I figured I might've been too harsh on him back in the day, and so I start watching AEW, and Punk starts his run with Darby Alin so I'm like aight cool that's a a good start, then after that was done with he starts wrestling jobbers every week and doing nothing of note, then he starts feuding with MJF and they bash WE every week and it burned me out so I stuck to watching the bloodline angle and it's doing good but nothing else is good on the WWE shows, then Cody jumps ship, then Punk gets in fights and gets fired, comes back to WWE then we end up where we are now with Punk and Cody as the main guys in WWE and there's no way I'm watching that cause there's nothing that screams "superstar" about both guys and so I haven't watched a full wrestling show since early 2022🤷🏾♂️
The reason why wrestling isn't popular like it used to be is because there's no important storylines, promos, correct bookings, and wrestlers are not working hard enough on their crafts and gimmicks that's why the television 📺 ratings is so low!
Of course Maybe AEW. But U & Everyone else in the comment section had & STILL is living under a BIG HUGE Rock. The Bloodline has & STILL has a great storyline alongside CM Punk Feuding w/ Drew McIntyre & Few other shyt going on up in WWE Rn. Whoever This Content creator "The Hater" Is, is just shyt for content revenue 💰 And doesn't have a clue on Wtf he's talking about.
Too many cornballs have entered wrestling becoming social media wrestlers instead of recruiting legit tough guys
wrestling was already dead before social media
Fax the same thing has happened with standup comedy now its alot of social media hacks lack of real comedians.
UFC killed wrestling in 2 ways. One is the fans can now see real violence of multiple styles instead of similated. Yes boxing existed but thats only punches. The other is the charismatic tough guys go into MMA now, not wrestling. In the 70s or 80s, a tough guy may try out a territory, but now he's in an MMA gym.
It's absolutely the weird fans of today. They cheer what sucks and boo whats good. They cry and demand what they're not owed and ultimately dont show up.
Social media/tik tok/youtube shorts deteriorated their brains it's hard to sit and watch knowing there are so many things to do
@westernsellers9148 this is also true
i was looking at the crowd and i know its nothing,but it appears most of the crowd are white guys under 45...theres hardly any kids or women esp in the first 10 rows...even back 7 or 8yrs ago you had more kids,women and over 70s...95% of the crowds are guys under 45y..
Honestly I've been watching old school stuff on Peacock. Wrestling is too sports driven now. I think TKO is pushing that more. Lack of characters and gimmicks. It's all about the flipping off the top rope bullshit.
Right? Like there's no soul anymore. Lack of covincing heroes and villians. Every week just feels like the same.
A lot of 80s and 90s stuff is dated, but dammn it has that energy that still gets me excited.
slow pace and letting the women have 3 or 4 matches is bs...esp when most of the girls are sloppy and unconvincing...
Time to hire vince russo back
lol. no way
Do you think huge part of the decline was that wrestling as an artform is just outdated?
Like radio or cable, people are just not interested in wrestling as there are newer and better things to spend time on?
Also, I know that if you have guys like tony and triple h being the head of wrestling, its never going to be mainstream again (nerd/jobber bookers), but it just seems that people are not interested in wrestling as whole anymore, especially compared to the 90s
It's alot like comicbooks and comicbook movies. They aren't outdated just look at anime and manga. That business is exploding. People aren't tired of them. We just have dogshit fatigue. If the wresting product was better, more people would watch. Just look at what the Rock did for like 3months.
It's not that. I's that wrestling is f****** lame. And the guys we see on our TV are talentless dorks. If there were big men and big personalities still in wrestling , it would still be popular. Some decline is normal, but not from 5 - 10 million to now barely a million. Come on. Even
loyal fans have walked away because it's complete crap now.
@mistermann3225 it's the same wrestlers doing the same moves . Even wyatt 6 won't keep the audience
wwe keeps giving the most annoying wrestlers tv time such as otis and chad or bronson reid..none of them will ever be world champion...also the women getting 4 or more segments just sucks...
@@georgealvarez1195yeah you're right. I was really tuning into that shit not being able to wait like I was watching an episode of the flash or the boys. And this was 2024 despite being an adult, knowing it's script, different ways to stream. Yeah good point.
Im gonna just whacti the old wwe
People moved on from it now everyone watch anime now, wrestling ain’t mainstream anymore.
So you haven't been paying attention to WWE, TNA, or NJPW. Business is booming.
@@R-MAN-mp5tw there’s no proof of it booming in the ratings, no average person out in public talks about Pro Wrestling, it’s a nerd fanbase not a sports fanbase. It’s like me asking someone if they watch Naruto and they either say yes or no
@@R-MAN-mp5tw Quit being so delusional! Wrestling's been on ice since the spring of '01.
@@R-MAN-mp5twnot a single person I know irl has any clue about modern Wrestling. The last I spoke about the topic was 2014 & then maybe The Rock's promos were everywhere. Other than that nobody even gaf about Roman Reigns.
@@santanu-fryea,they did,because he was selling out shit when everyone came back from the pandemic
502,000 is fucking nuts 😂 they don't know what tf their doing
Hard to watch man, the show is just inorganic it's forced
The Rams beating the Chiefs 55-52 is better than any episode of raw, smack down, or any non ppv/ple wwe product.
Not better than the Armageddon hell in a cell the greatest match of all time
I don't pay for ads homie
WWE is still going pretty strong you think that merger they did with UFC was for nothing? Trust me these people aren’t dumb they know the power WWE has and will continue and always will be popular
Everybody here is delusional wrestling is the most popular it’s been in a long ass time y’all tweakin 😂
Exactly! It's been on ice since the '01.
I think he realizes a lot of his content is unpopular opinions but he’s the hater a lot of the time he just trolling but not gon lie it’s kinda hard to watch raw or aew without cringing
No it got lame! Excitement storylines has died down
I Blame Social Media, Short Attention Spans & Kayfabe Being Broken
Maybe people grown up? Watch real sports like boxing, mma, basketball, American football etc
@@flizzy4645 I Do & Always Have
mma and nba suck,both are garbage...boxing is ok as long as its the heavyweights not the small guys...
@@flizzy4645what you call football is actually rugby you don't even the basics of names you call it football when they don't play with their feet this is hilarious. Also your real fights are also scripted because they also know who will lose because people bet money on it. You live under a rock?
Getting into Professional Wrestling is an equivalent to getting into an Anime Show like Naruto or One Piece, that’s how small the fanbase has gotten over time. It used to be as popular as the NFL and NBA at one point in time during the Golden Era and Attitude Era
The ratings for Ligue 1 is gonna drop now that Mbappe is in Real Madrid
The other issue being that kayfabe is not maintained enough.
Wrestling is as popular as ever so I have no idea WTF where you pulled the concept. AEW is suffering due to its niche focus.
Literally skipped an ad right before you said it
Eff him. Me watching his video is all the support that he needs. I ain't watching no ads...
Aew not being popular does not mean wwe isn’t.
I hear the wind
To be fair Cantona walked a fine line between stupidly épic and epicly stupid. He was good, tho
Wrestling is the most popular its been since the Attitude Era tubs.
No it isnt. Its not popular. Maybe its popular with the people u hang with at yugioh tournaments lol. It's not watched by cool people and is mostly enjoyed by neckbeards like u
@@thehater6189 This is the worst argument I've ever seen. 😂
Shut up jobber
Lol no its not definitely at an all time low an NPC does not know roman reigns or cody rhodes. But they would know the undertaker, John cena etc
@@flizzy4645 And this is the 2nd worst argument I've ever seen.
Then why did wwe sell fore billions ? Why did Netflix give wwe billions for raw ?
They sold the whole farm though. It's not a very good deal
Longest episodic television show in history is no more
@TheeIdol nobody would want to pay Netflix to watch wrestling, wwe will disappear
Because there's an entertainment bubble where companies are paying premium for content makers. But when that bubble subsides, WWE will have to get by on how much it draws. It's going to fail eventually.
Eric Cantona is the perfect example for the type of mentality you need to be a star, especially in wrestling now where everyone's just small
Eric cantona was 6"2 he wasn't small. He was literally the same height as stone cold
@@mattreyes4803 Yeah I meant small guys need that Eric Cantona mentality to be a star 😂
betting is why NBA, NFL get high ratings plus sports bars aren’t playing WWE or AEW but they have real sports. Wrestling will never be mainstream again. Die hard fans will still support but casual fans and new fans won’t.
Nah, these sports are watched by millions of people and the betting market in the us has been very small
11 billion for gambling revenue in the us making it the 2nd largest next to the uk those numbers are from 2021 its even more prevasive now @thehater6189
@MA-ne8ig that is a tiny market compared to the nfl alone. Just the dallas cowboys are worth like 10 billion. Thus, the statement that betting leads to high ratings is just wrong
@thehater6189 I agree it doesn't necessarily correlate to high ratings but there's certainly a market for it nonetheless
You naming real sports lol.
>Why is Wrestling No Longer Popular
Are we talking about JUST the WWE/WWF or all of them around the world? 😂
It’s really simple. Wrestling is no longer popular because they can’t create stars anymore.
It was Hogan and Warrior, then Austin and Rock, then Cena and Batista, now to fucking no one.
It’s that simple guys, no stars = lack of interest.
Hogan described this best. There is no more big star, no uniqueness. the star of the show is the product. Hulk hogan, warrior, cena, rock, austin. They stood out because they had something unique. Nowadays every wrestler is basically the same.
Wrestling will never be a massive draw again. Most of these wrestlers have no charisma and are extremely boring
I used to believe their 'all tv ratings are down' bullshit, until I saw that RAW was the 80th most viewed show on cable in 2022 lol. Wrestling is dead as fuck and is nowhere close to the public imagination outside of millenials occassionally being nostalgic about funny stuff from the 90s and 00s
Next video, 25 reasons why Peacock sucks
Day 10 of asking for a 25 reasons why Santino Marella is better than either MJF, Cody, or Gunther.
I lost interest once HHH took over WWE
Please 25 reasons why Gargarno sucks
What are you talking about ?!
In terms of AEW, yes theyve gone downhill in viewership since last year.
But in terms of WWE, they ate at an all time high in viewership right now 😂. Scratch that, ever since 2021 their numbers have gone up.
TNA, AAA, NJPW to name a few have also been doing really well in their respective areas
What part confused you? One episode of raw in 2001 would get more viewers than everything you mentioned combined. Wrestling was actually cool and cool people liked it. Now its liked by anime dorks
Nah bro, TNA may has a partnership with WWE but I don't find anything that interesting in the company personnally, AAA is easily the worst wrestling promotion in the world and NJPW is in a decline just like AEW.
@@andraiy644 lololol, hello again, secret fan
waddup c holds
Im may be wrong and if i am i will stand corrected. AEW was such a good product. It was exciting and had that anything could happen factor. The storylines were good and were consistent and done properly. The in ring product was the car crash tv it is now. I would never miss a minute of the show and actually looked forward to Wednesday nights. Im not saying that things were not going down before. But they have never recovered from that whole cm punk young bucks bullshit.
Well, personally I've moved on from wrestling , I stick to mma and boxing , cause initially, I was drawn into it by guys like HHH, Cena, Batista and Orton, but then during the rise of Punk I got turned off by the fact that he doesn't look like a physical threat to guys like Cena and Batista, so why is he world champion🤷🏾♂️ and I was 9 or 10 years old at this time, but I stopped watching , and I picked it back up when Roman's push began which was around and I loved the shield also, and I kept watching all the way to 2021 and Punk returned , so I thought to myself , let me see what I missed with his this guy cause I figured I might've been too harsh on him back in the day, and so I start watching AEW, and Punk starts his run with Darby Alin so I'm like aight cool that's a a good start, then after that was done with he starts wrestling jobbers every week and doing nothing of note, then he starts feuding with MJF and they bash WE every week and it burned me out so I stuck to watching the bloodline angle and it's doing good but nothing else is good on the WWE shows, then Cody jumps ship, then Punk gets in fights and gets fired, comes back to WWE then we end up where we are now with Punk and Cody as the main guys in WWE and there's no way I'm watching that cause there's nothing that screams "superstar" about both guys and so I haven't watched a full wrestling show since early 2022🤷🏾♂️
Because the Ratings are Ultimately low.
Fox is a big network and USA is cable, but yes wrestling is dead.
Its the rock..the rock rises all tides lol he comes back it will be cool again and even aew will feel the ratings spike
I gotta say it, I’ve grown to love this channel. The hater woke me from the marking.
Another one! This is the best comment ever, bro
@thehater6189 you should do 26 resaon why liv morgan sucks
Um... 2005 has called and they want their hater back
everyone new is the same and theyre too many
esp the girls of which i cant tell apart...they all talk the same and dress the same and wrestle the same...to many 5ft girls as well..
wrestling sucks/
wrestling rules you marks suck
The reason why wrestling isn't popular like it used to be is because there's no important storylines, promos, correct bookings, and wrestlers are not working hard enough on their crafts and gimmicks that's why the television 📺 ratings is so low!
Of course Maybe AEW. But U & Everyone else in the comment section had & STILL is living under a BIG HUGE Rock. The Bloodline has & STILL has a great storyline alongside CM Punk Feuding w/ Drew McIntyre & Few other shyt going on up in WWE Rn. Whoever This Content creator "The Hater" Is, is just shyt for content revenue 💰 And doesn't have a clue on Wtf he's talking about.
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Hater on point here 💯