I used to main payday, but now main crystal due to the high capacity. I don't main them bc of 25 weight items, but bc of how efficient it is since you don't have to go back and to, but the point of payday is so go back and to.
what’s a general weight-to-price ratio for good items to steal? by that, i mean how paper is like $15 for 0w, while vending machines are like $400 for 15w (pulling from memory so idk if this is accurate). what weight items are good to aim for? i guess what i’m asking is, what are valuable item’s usual weight and price? i dunno if i’m explaining this right. i tend to average around 5k as thief and i want to increase my earnings, and i’m not sure how to and what to learn regarding item values.
Anything that is $20/weight or less is considered pretty bad unless it’s very close to a deposit point. $30/weight+ is pretty good and anything at the $40/weight+ is exceptional. You also dont make lots of money by just going after the best weight to price ratio items in the map. The equation of a good deposit is this. (“Money in bag” divided by “Seconds spent getting those items”) So a $500 bag that took 5 seconds to get has the same efficiency as a $1000 bag that took 10 seconds to get.
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbb high value areas and items close to deposit points are the best. How good a bag is depends on Value of Bag/ Time it took to get the bag. So a $1000 bag that took 20 seconds to grab is the same as a $500 bag that only took 10 seconds.
@@tammy69711 just go somewhere else if someone is camping a specific hatch. When you’re downed and a camera is camping you, crawl to a blind spot. If there’s teamers in your server, play deathray or annihilator and just target them.
@@thesleeper-hd2mz always have your Roblox camera pointed upward when you’re playing to stare at the camera hatches. Whenever I run into a new room for an open area, my Roblox camera swings to the camera location to check for cameras right away. I also have sounds on so I know whether the camera is close or far away when I heat the location swapping noise.
@@sonibaker3567 for moneymaking, it’s best to place the burrow at a deposit point and a hotspot. (Example: burrow at garage and a burrow in the armory)
Yes, but u ideally want to steal items closer to exits with good index first, unless they are an item that other people go for first. If that’s the case, then those should be a first priority.
It’s pretty good. It’s just different from all the other cameras in the game. You have to shoot where the enemy is going, and not where they currently are.
How do you know were the cameras are all the time? It seems like you always know were they are going to be. Is it the subtitles or are u just listening that well?
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 is Crystal flame better at making money than payday? Because I’m currently top 1 for monthly thieves and cam and I main payday cuz of u, but Crystal flame seems to easily make a lot of money
Eyyo, i have some of outlaw skins like Santa, the Gold Man, Payday, and Dibs. Would u recommend to me what skins should i use in the large and small maps. Otherwise I have eek and ace in the Legend, i hope u make the formation for me 🙏
Play Ace on Museum and Mall Play Payday on the other maps If you’re trying to make money, here are the maps that make the most money from BEST to WORST: 1. Complex 2. Farm 3. Police Station 4. Mansion 5. Restaurant 6. Mall 7. Museum 8. Bank
Depends on the map. Always energize the 25 weight item if you can pick it up. Items to energize if you cant: Complex: Broken atm or Star crystal Farm: Outhouse or heavy trough Police station: Red out of order vending machine in the kitchen or water cooler Mansion: Toilet or deer wall mount (I take the grandfather clocks early into the round so other people cant steal them before I do) Energizing an item with less than $20 weight per value will give the energized item a 6x multiplier instead of a 3x multiplier. Just like how gold items receive either a 2x or 4x price increase.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Wow i didn't know this, So that means the broken red distributor has a higher value energized then the not broken one energized?
@@luckyluke6100 correct, the energized normal vending machine would equal $1050 (350x3) while the energized out of order vending machine would be $1650 (275x6)
So I see that you sometimes change which character you are is that dependent on the map or just because your bored, if it’s dependent on the map what character is best for each map in your opinion
@@CountrySide.Horses doesnt rly matter, as long as the items have a good value to weight ratio. Items closer to exits are also very good because u dont have to walk that much to deposit them.
@@CountrySide.Horses yup, those are pretty good, and they are even better when close to a deposit spot. (Vending machines, filing cabinets, and atms, at the Police Station Balcony)
I personally believe that going crystalxflame solely because of 25 weight items isnt worth it. I play payday on mansion and farm even though those two maps have two 25 weight items.
I tried asking this by relying to an answer you gave me for something else but it’s not working for some reason. Is Crystal flame better than payday for making money?
@@TheReal251 yeah, I’d say so. The only problem is Crystalflame is rather unsafe since he has no movement speed increase or anything to prevent dying less. (Except for having to deposit less if that counts)
Best thieves for moneymaking are Crystalflxme and Payday. Best camera for making money is Sir Camera and best camera for killing thieves is Annihilator.
Different thieves have different weight capacities. Most thieves have 20, some thieves have 25, and one thief has 40. Santa and Scar have varying weight capacities that change during the round.
Crystalflame can actually be better than Payday when it comes to making money, but he lacks mobility and safety so it’s much easier to die when playing Crystalflame. You also lose significantly more time if a camera is blocking your way/chasing you, while that isn’t that big of a problem to Payday. (Midas has the same problems as Crystalflame) AII Duck is another good pick that can actually be rly fun since u can scale walls and take shortcuts while be annoying by spam jumping and still get decent earnings. Ace is another extremely good pick (and fun), but his speed might be hard to get used to at the start. However, I would recommend him over any other thief on maps where the loot is far away from each other such as Mall and Museum. He’s actually a very safe pick even though he only has 1 hp. The only time that you are ever really vulnerable is when you are depositing/ picking up a really heavy item. These deaths can be minimized if you only deposit/pickup big items after hearing one or both of the cameras switching to different locations so they wont switch to you.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Thanks, I’ll make sure to ace right now (I’m playing) and use crystal if I get it before payday and payday if I get it before crystal I’ll also use all duck when I get him. I also agree with you that all duck could be fun and at first when I watched the video I thought crystal was a good option so thanks alot!
@@Chasewashere.why dont u try Midas on smaller maps for now and Ace on the larger ones. You can play Ace on the smaller maps once you get used to his speed. However, I’m a firm believer that Ace gets more value on bigger maps anyways. As Midas, you ideally want to use his ability as much as possible and being at a good spot each time you get the ability back for maximum value.
Just play normally and steal the special items if u walk by them. Dont walk around the entire map as soon as the game starts to look for them, since that’s a waste of time.
if you remember, how many rounds did it take for you to figure out a good route on new maps? is it something about prioritizing efficiency, shooting straight for hotspots, etc?
It really is a bit of both. Spots closer to exits are most time efficient, but you also need to get to hotspots before other players start stealing from those spots too. (Armory and Vault) To get consistent good runs, you need a mix of being efficient and stealing items that other people try to take. Finding a new route depends on the layout of the map. It took me a while to find a decent route on Restraurant because it wasnt the best map for making money, which made me prioritize picking it less. It took me less than a week for me to come up with a consistent route for farm, since the layout is less complicated than restaurant and the good items on that map are fairly obvious. Complex took around 2 weeks to find a good route because of the sheer size of the map.
i think going for highly contested areas first is always a good idea (e.g. vault on bank, jewelerry store at mall, armory at police and the fedoras at museum), and then travelling to areas with the most amount of money near to exit points next. Always use 1 weight = $25 to find out whether or not something is worth it or not and overtime by playing you'll find out which items are worth time travelling to get and develop a route
School got removed cuz the layout of the map was very unenjoyable to play for both camera and thief. Complex is the best map in the game for making money, but what map u enjoy to play the most depends on u.
You need to get that specific thief 5/15/30 times from the thief shop for Gold/Emerald/Ruby. Example: I got Medusa 5 times from thief shop, so I have the gold skin for that thief unlocked
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 i mean most of the time cameras and thieves are people who just joined the game and might quit because of how fast they die each round or when they miss their shots as a camera, which basically keeps most of its player base being newbies, that means you rarely find pro players i guess
Yes, different thieves have different bag sizes. Most have 20, some have 25 and one thief has 40. Santa’s and Scar’s bags can get a bit bigger than 40.
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I used to main payday, but now main crystal due to the high capacity. I don't main them bc of 25 weight items, but bc of how efficient it is since you don't have to go back and to, but the point of payday is so go back and to.
payday dookie now cause he has 3 hearts lol
@@mayaje831 Yeah i main scavenger now
4:43 BLUD STOLE IT FROM HER 💀💀💀💀
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what’s a general weight-to-price ratio for good items to steal? by that, i mean how paper is like $15 for 0w, while vending machines are like $400 for 15w (pulling from memory so idk if this is accurate). what weight items are good to aim for? i guess what i’m asking is, what are valuable item’s usual weight and price? i dunno if i’m explaining this right.
i tend to average around 5k as thief and i want to increase my earnings, and i’m not sure how to and what to learn regarding item values.
Anything that is $20/weight or less is considered pretty bad unless it’s very close to a deposit point. $30/weight+ is pretty good and anything at the $40/weight+ is exceptional. You also dont make lots of money by just going after the best weight to price ratio items in the map. The equation of a good deposit is this. (“Money in bag” divided by “Seconds spent getting those items”) So a $500 bag that took 5 seconds to get has the same efficiency as a $1000 bag that took 10 seconds to get.
Ik im likw horribly late but is there an efficient way to actually grind for cash ?
id say just go to high valuable areas and focus more on item index/the value of an item per weight and play a thief your good with
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbb high value areas and items close to deposit points are the best. How good a bag is depends on Value of Bag/ Time it took to get the bag. So a $1000 bag that took 20 seconds to grab is the same as a $500 bag that only took 10 seconds.
this is late as hell but how do you deal with campers/teamers? (except for leaving the server) :D
@@tammy69711 just go somewhere else if someone is camping a specific hatch. When you’re downed and a camera is camping you, crawl to a blind spot. If there’s teamers in your server, play deathray or annihilator and just target them.
i need payday so bad
Is that deposit monover still possible
@@teganphean758 yes, but not as good as before after the nerf. I still deposit in front of cameras all the time.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232would you still say pay day is meta
@@teganphean758 scar and crystal make more money but payday is way safer
What’s the most amount of money you made in one match and what map
@@teganphean758 21k with no midas/santa on Mansion. This was before wedding event and current mall.
What camera would you recommende to use?Like am using chaingun on mobile but idk if its good enough
Annihilator (Outlawed) or Silencer (epic) if you are not confident in your camera abilities and you’re just looking for kills.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 thanks!
tbh silencer is really mid but i mean its alr cause u can just have the sub titles
How do you avoid the cameras and not take any damage? I always die because I’m not careful.
@@thesleeper-hd2mz always have your Roblox camera pointed upward when you’re playing to stare at the camera hatches. Whenever I run into a new room for an open area, my Roblox camera swings to the camera location to check for cameras right away. I also have sounds on so I know whether the camera is close or far away when I heat the location swapping noise.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 thanks for the tip
hey, would these routes still work if i were to play as crystal? or is there a way to utilize his 40 weight capacity better
Yes, you can play crystalflame while using the same routes. However, payday is better on farm since there are many big items close to deposit points.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 oo ok ty!! also, i was wondering if you played dawnstar. if you have, do you have any tips like where to place burrows
@@sonibaker3567 for moneymaking, it’s best to place the burrow at a deposit point and a hotspot. (Example: burrow at garage and a burrow in the armory)
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 hmm alright, whats a hotspot for complex? i am terrible at that map
@@sonibaker3567 Apt A and B, and Jewelty are the best spots
sorry if im asking too much but is payday still good after the balance changes?
He’s still very very good. You shouldnt notice too big of a difference in your earnings with him.
I didn't know that the bathroom window isnt real! So is the general idea to just loot atl 25 price index items and deposit them asp?
Yes, but u ideally want to steal items closer to exits with good index first, unless they are an item that other people go for first. If that’s the case, then those should be a first priority.
What if I don't want to use ace on mall or museum? Who should i use instead, AII_duck?
Duck is a good pick too. Ace is just better tho.
Is shockwire cam good or bad
It’s pretty good. It’s just different from all the other cameras in the game. You have to shoot where the enemy is going, and not where they currently are.
How do you know were the cameras are all the time? It seems like you always know were they are going to be. Is it the subtitles or are u just listening that well?
@@TheReal251 mostly just listening. I’ve memorized the camera hatch sound to distance ratio at this point. Louder the sound, the closer the camera.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 is Crystal flame better at making money than payday? Because I’m currently top 1 for monthly thieves and cam and I main payday cuz of u, but Crystal flame seems to easily make a lot of money
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 is Crystal flame better than payday for money making?
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 is Crystal flame better than payday for making money
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 is Crystal flame better than payday for money making?
Ive heard something about how you can increase your chance to get better skins/cameras but i don't know where to find it
No such thing. The best way to get thieves and cameras is saving up for the Purchase 10 option.
Also wait for weekends for the discount
Eyyo, i have some of outlaw skins like Santa, the Gold Man, Payday, and Dibs. Would u recommend to me what skins should i use in the large and small maps. Otherwise I have eek and ace in the Legend, i hope u make the formation for me 🙏
Play Ace on Museum and Mall
Play Payday on the other maps
If you’re trying to make money, here are the maps that make the most money from BEST to WORST:
1. Complex
2. Farm
3. Police Station
4. Mansion
5. Restaurant
6. Mall
7. Museum
8. Bank
@@aspectoftheyeti1232Hello, thanks for the advice! Now I have duck and cow, would u recommend me a new formation or payday is still a perfect choice?
@@richardusarlo3223 payday is still the perfect choice. Try out playing cow on overtime rounds tho
@@aspectoftheyeti1232yo I have Midas dibs celesti and Achilles
Every other character any rarity Lower as well what you recommend
@@KaleJohns Midas is the best out of the 3. There are good thieves that arent outlaweds. Tony, Scavenger, Sprint, Ace, and Scrooge just to name a few.
when will you make 20k with Lumi
@@eevee3900 already did! (Trust)
What thief do you use for Bank outside of stacked rounds?
Payday, but I would recommend avoiding bank at all times since it’s the worst map in the game for making money
@@aspectoftheyeti1232IKR?! I don’t know how people still vote for that map, it’s so bad😭
True @@aspectoftheyeti1232
what do you prioritize for the energizer
Depends on the map.
Always energize the 25 weight item if you can pick it up.
Items to energize if you cant:
Complex: Broken atm or Star crystal
Farm: Outhouse or heavy trough
Police station: Red out of order vending machine in the kitchen or water cooler
Mansion: Toilet or deer wall mount (I take the grandfather clocks early into the round so other people cant steal them before I do)
Energizing an item with less than $20 weight per value will give the energized item a 6x multiplier instead of a 3x multiplier. Just like how gold items receive either a 2x or 4x price increase.
i always wondered why the multiplier was different, makes more sense now
thanks@@aspectoftheyeti1232
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Wow i didn't know this, So that means the broken red distributor has a higher value energized then the not broken one energized?
@@luckyluke6100 correct, the energized normal vending machine would equal $1050 (350x3) while the energized out of order vending machine would be $1650 (275x6)
So I see that you sometimes change which character you are is that dependent on the map or just because your bored, if it’s dependent on the map what character is best for each map in your opinion
Ace on mall
Payday or Crystalflame on any other map
Yo, jules here! This helped a lot, I made 7k last round after u left!! ❤
Very nice, I’m glad the video was able to help
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 question tho, what items should I grab? Like big items or smaller?
@@CountrySide.Horses doesnt rly matter, as long as the items have a good value to weight ratio. Items closer to exits are also very good because u dont have to walk that much to deposit them.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 so like file cabinets and atms?
@@CountrySide.Horses yup, those are pretty good, and they are even better when close to a deposit spot. (Vending machines, filing cabinets, and atms, at the Police Station Balcony)
I honestly prefer using crystalxflame on mall, restaurant and police station cause some item weigh 25 and have higher value.
I personally believe that going crystalxflame solely because of 25 weight items isnt worth it. I play payday on mansion and farm even though those two maps have two 25 weight items.
I tried asking this by relying to an answer you gave me for something else but it’s not working for some reason. Is Crystal flame better than payday for making money?
@@TheReal251 yeah, I’d say so. The only problem is Crystalflame is rather unsafe since he has no movement speed increase or anything to prevent dying less. (Except for having to deposit less if that counts)
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 ok thanks
What’s the best thief and camera in ur opinion?
Best thieves for moneymaking are Crystalflxme and Payday. Best camera for making money is Sir Camera and best camera for killing thieves is Annihilator.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 do u have a preference for flame or payday? cuz i rlly like them but i cant figure out which one is the best
@@Roc62958 i like Payday more
This DarkSwagGreifer guy is pretty swag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
u didnt even spell that guy’s name right!!1!
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Damn you got me good!!!!!11111111
how do you upgrade storage?
You can’t “upgrade” it. You have to get thieves with more storage
Different thieves have different weight capacities. Most thieves have 20, some thieves have 25, and one thief has 40. Santa and Scar have varying weight capacities that change during the round.
Would u use the same routes with different thiefs
Yes, but I find most of my routes are more effective with Payday
oh alr I see prob bc of the past pickk ups ill try to do this with other thiefs@@aspectoftheyeti1232
Should i stay for 1 thief for every map? Or should i use the best thief for every map?
It’s preference. Whoever you think is better for whatever map is who you should use.
What should i use if i dont have payday?
@@ayay1310 CrystalFlxme, Cow, Duck, Tony, Scrooge, Scavenger, Ace, and Sprint are all other good thieves that aren’t Payday.
What would ur recommended thief be instead of payday?
Crystalflame can actually be better than Payday when it comes to making money, but he lacks mobility and safety so it’s much easier to die when playing Crystalflame. You also lose significantly more time if a camera is blocking your way/chasing you, while that isn’t that big of a problem to Payday. (Midas has the same problems as Crystalflame) AII Duck is another good pick that can actually be rly fun since u can scale walls and take shortcuts while be annoying by spam jumping and still get decent earnings. Ace is another extremely good pick (and fun), but his speed might be hard to get used to at the start. However, I would recommend him over any other thief on maps where the loot is far away from each other such as Mall and Museum. He’s actually a very safe pick even though he only has 1 hp. The only time that you are ever really vulnerable is when you are depositing/ picking up a really heavy item. These deaths can be minimized if you only deposit/pickup big items after hearing one or both of the cameras switching to different locations so they wont switch to you.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Thanks, I’ll make sure to ace right now (I’m playing) and use crystal if I get it before payday and payday if I get it before crystal I’ll also use all duck when I get him. I also agree with you that all duck could be fun and at first when I watched the video I thought crystal was a good option so thanks alot!
However should I use Midas or ace?
@@Chasewashere.why dont u try Midas on smaller maps for now and Ace on the larger ones. You can play Ace on the smaller maps once you get used to his speed. However, I’m a firm believer that Ace gets more value on bigger maps anyways. As Midas, you ideally want to use his ability as much as possible and being at a good spot each time you get the ability back for maximum value.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Thanks, that makes sense I’ll try that method and get back to you. Would u want to possibly play sometime?
Should I focus on special items first or should I just play?/mainly mansion
Just play normally and steal the special items if u walk by them. Dont walk around the entire map as soon as the game starts to look for them, since that’s a waste of time.
I got a payday but sadly it didn't reach my expectation can you give me any tip about him and also I like your content
Always try to steal the good items closest to exits. Those are the best items to steal as payday.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 thank you for the tip but which item you recommend at the start
@@StevenChau-wo7el the same ones in the video
if you remember, how many rounds did it take for you to figure out a good route on new maps? is it something about prioritizing efficiency, shooting straight for hotspots, etc?
It really is a bit of both. Spots closer to exits are most time efficient, but you also need to get to hotspots before other players start stealing from those spots too. (Armory and Vault) To get consistent good runs, you need a mix of being efficient and stealing items that other people try to take. Finding a new route depends on the layout of the map. It took me a while to find a decent route on Restraurant because it wasnt the best map for making money, which made me prioritize picking it less. It took me less than a week for me to come up with a consistent route for farm, since the layout is less complicated than restaurant and the good items on that map are fairly obvious. Complex took around 2 weeks to find a good route because of the sheer size of the map.
i think going for highly contested areas first is always a good idea (e.g. vault on bank, jewelerry store at mall, armory at police and the fedoras at museum), and then travelling to areas with the most amount of money near to exit points next. Always use 1 weight = $25 to find out whether or not something is worth it or not and overtime by playing you'll find out which items are worth time travelling to get and develop a route
16:56
You were so close
I was trying to deposit a final bag before reinforcements arrived so I could get another inventory before finally leaving
who do u think is the most fun character to play as?
Tony is pretty fun. Just something about carrying a big item and depositing it.
what do you think is the best map in general
(also why did school get removed?)
School got removed cuz the layout of the map was very unenjoyable to play for both camera and thief.
Complex is the best map in the game for making money, but what map u enjoy to play the most depends on u.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 Ok ty
How to get gold ruby skins?
You need to get that specific thief 5/15/30 times from the thief shop for Gold/Emerald/Ruby.
Example: I got Medusa 5 times from thief shop, so I have the gold skin for that thief unlocked
Is god father gud for these routses?
Yes, however he is not as good as Payday or Crystalflame
do u recommend using sprint@@aspectoftheyeti1232
bro please give me recomendation legend skin that useful for thief
Good legendary thieves for making money include Dr.Tanner, Scrooge, Sprint, and Ace
@@aspectoftheyeti1232how it is possible that u have a lot of money? grinding for a long time
?
@@richardusarlo3223 yes, I havent spent any money in around 2 months
@@aspectoftheyeti1232how to kill archilles? my cam cant kill arch even though i use the explosions
How do you make so much money I really need to know
Steal good items, have a good route, don’t die, and repeat!
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 thank you so much 😁😁
those cams on ps were literal bots 💀
You see a lot of those types of people in ips2. Lots of stealing and depositing in front of cameras when I play.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 i mean most of the time cameras and thieves are people who just joined the game and might quit because of how fast they die each round or when they miss their shots as a camera, which basically keeps most of its player base being newbies, that means you rarely find pro players i guess
@@julycrack1096 very much true, I must of contributed to hundreds of players quitting and never returning by now
@@aspectoftheyeti1232 same
can you get a bigger bag ?
Yes, different thieves have different bag sizes. Most have 20, some have 25 and one thief has 40. Santa’s and Scar’s bags can get a bit bigger than 40.
@@aspectoftheyeti1232how to get 40?
@@richardusarlo3223 there’s a thief called crystalflame (outlawed) that gives you 40 weight capacity and 5 hearts
Why do you steal energized items that the other players used their energy cell on? That’s just hella selfish.
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you’re too slow!
@@UraniumL1cker 💀
I don’t think the kid he stole it from could even read yet lol
complex as camer??? cLIackbait???!!!
Yes, apology video coming soon!! (Probably not)
In his defence he already made a video abt complex
@@Chasewashere. The video was about shrimple