You wanna learn, but can't spend 5/15 seconds typing a query into a search engine, like UA-cam/Google. Meanwhile, waiting for some (human interaction) to be spoon fed.
@@DrDeathAribertHeimHk47 If you are a scientist and can tell me what is the right ones then yes, I'd do so. I'd rather have new information not regurgitated stuff that was in the tv show. Thank you. It's not like I ~don't~ take the time to Google new things. So thank you for sharing your snark with me, I appreciate it much. 🙄
@@hunakosdem it was either a discovery or something else entirely on TV, it was very fascinating to me to see how the mould moved. It's been more than 2 yrs since I saw it, I'm sorry but I don't have photographic memory.
To be fair, the slime mold does not have to consider factors like geography, commute patterns, peak traffic flow rates, noise control regulations, etc. But the emerging structure is amazing nevertheless!
It's beautiful because it can express the most optimal path on a 2d plain without those things into consideration. It's up to us to figure out the rest ;)
No. I think you could make multiple Petrie dishes for different average and peak times, and make them 3d terrain models instead of 2d. If there is a river or Terrain feature then a little wall there on the model might Suffice. I am not sure if the amount of nutrients lead to certain paths being strengthened more than others which would help accaount for population size. If not they could make the model a lot larger and have a few small piles next to each other to represent the larger population. Needless to say there are numerous ways this could be utilized practically when designing systems or at least to double check if there isn’t a more efficient solution than the engineered one. When I worked as a fulfillment center designer at Amazon this is something I could have actually used on several occasions. You will be surprised how many multi million dollar decisions about building layouts are sort of winged by designers and then elaborately justified in engineering reports.
It's a snippet of one of their TV specials. They don't make content specially for youtube. That would be silly. How could they pay the production staff?
You could achieve the same thing with a swarm intelligence algorithm, which is essentially what this is. You could also use ants in a similar setup and see similar results since the paths that ants take depend on the pheromones they leave behind, more ants using the same path results in more pheromones and strengthening the network.
@@AppleBS11 Indeed, but do the slimes really always get optimized solutions? I know they said "the most efficient" in the video but I find that hard to believe.
It's a really amazing experiment, demonstrating how these small , actually small organisms that doesn't have any evidence of thinking or brain storming actually doing something we Human did
well, it's pretty easy to connect 2 points tho, the slime also doesnt have obstacles like mountains and bad ground, which influenced how we built our roads
In the video he mentioned that it was for a Underground Railroad system. Which ignores everything u just pointed out. My thing is wouldn’t a straight line be the best option I don’t get how curving is more efficient
This is definitely clickbait... however, to your point, the mold isn't connecting two points, it's connecting multiple points at the same time. It's very similar to connecting two dots, but the resource allocation and pattern are very different.
It takes more or less the quickest path to get to each oat flake and makes paths connecting all of them together. It's all very logical, therefore it would seem to have some sort of brainless intelligence unknown to us. Fascinating!
It's trial and error. When something works it does more of jt. The fastest way from one point to another is just a straight line. Nothing genius about that
1. Roadways and subways look the way they do because of complicated topography and land barriers. They're not efficient. 2. The path the slime mold creates is nowhere near the "most efficient" path. I could connect the oat nodes much more efficiently using a ruler. 3. It's purely a coincidence that the mold path's look similar to Tokyo's subway, because the slime mold doesn't have any barriers or complicated topography to traverse. It's on a flat surface. 4. Why is everybody pretending like the slime mold is creating efficient pathways? This is some stupid biology party trick.
What is amazing about this is that if we had know this 120 years ago at the start of the Industrial Revolution we would have been able to use this for a lot of practical applications like factory layout design or oil pipeline paths. We would not have had to wait decades for computers to catch up. It wouldn’t work in ever situation but there are probably countless examples where it would have led to improvements. I think one thing that is also amazing are that some species of ants will build elaborate ant hill structures. And there is often a building or structure made by humans with Beautiful gothic architecture that looks very similar.
Not relevant? Finding out something like more efficient railway systems seems like it would be pretty relevant. Of course like you said, Geography would play a part with many areas not being able to have tracks put on them, just seems like relevant information to me. Wars and resources aren’t an issue everywhere.
@@Crazy__Canuck they used light as obstacles for the mold, because the slime mold hates light. So the light imitates mountains and other geographical limitations.
But didn’t it just find the most efficient way by trying everything? And just saving the connections that were shortest? If we could do that for a rail system it would also take a lot less time, the problem is the process, if given a massive complex goal, could it really complete it?
Is it possible for slime mold, or funguses or neurons to grow in unexpected directions because there’s a biological benefit to doing so? Is it possible for them to discover hidden dimensions in order to create better connections or shorter distances? Just curious.
i just watched a story on NOVA about slime mold.the first thing that came to mind was GLIOBLASTOMA and how it spread and had veins and liked sugar. i wonder if research on slime mold could come up with a cure for cancer?
Well, yes. Engineers made roads for heavy vehicles and harsh climate conditions. Slime mold is just doing it to feed itself. Does it bother you or why do you compare it like that?
Angel Ortiz i mean there's nothing practical watching mold forming some patterns and then being surprised and saying "we have to learn something from mold!" since there's nothing surprising. also for some reason i dont like that type of people comparing fibonacci numbers with sunflower seeds and golden ratio with slime's shell and then claiming that this is god's creation and blah blah blah. i'm more surprised by talent of railway ingeneers, than by mold trying to feed itself
@@trimethoxy4637 Nothing surprising? This slime mold (which isn't technically mold since it isn't a fungus), doesn't have brain cells, nor muscles, it's mainly unicellular and has more than one nucleus and it's still able to move, solve problems, and form efficient networks. How is that not surprising? It may not be practical in the sense that it doesn't help a human being thrive in its dumb society, but it's practical for this organism to survive, for those interested in mapping out routes, learning about microorganisms's behavior, or for those who hunt these creatures (i.e. animals). This slime mold and the way it behaves is real life. Those roads you see out there were just made because a group of people/corporation in the past forced us to move great distances to survive using cars (you can't hunt your food, you have to travel to the supermarket and commute to work to afford food). A delusion for you to give someone money (i.e. Power). So, the practicality of something is subjective. Learning to pay your taxes may be practical to you because you're forced to pay taxes, but taxes is just a human invention. It isn't practical in natute/real life. Besides, this slime mold isn't trying to impress anyone, especially not you. The world doesn't revolve around you. And religion is just another human invention.
Computer Science and Binary teaches us that it requires only two states interacting with each other to create our reality on a computer screen. Which means all logic can be boiled down to attraction and repulsion; yes no; on off... ect..... So if the most complex intelligence can be created from simple 1 and 0..... then a single cell slime mold is like the primitive side of the same coin... It's connecting the most efficient nodes because that's the path of least resistance. It can't afford to waste energy traveling in weird patterns, it just goes towards food. I'm sure once it notices it takes longer to get nutrients from a node via one path vs another.... it'll delete the longer path and keep the shorter route.... This is very simple and elementary logic. I can probably code a slime mold program in an afternoon that'll move and behave just like what we watched.... It's fascinating if you don't know anything about math science.... but it's pretty basic when you do.
This is asking how will u connect the dots to maximize resource distribution, taking only position and amount of resources available at each dot into account. Not so simple as a straight line connecting them. Video titles could be better though.
OHH I GET IT. Since the slime mold finds the most efficient way to get to their food, they could use this knowledge to make roads and other connections more efficient :OOO Ah nvm, they said it in the video
Now do the same but make it an artificial 30000 to one scale total recreation of the topography, and densities of soul/sediment/rock and then see the 3D train system it makes
Ok but why do you say it's the "most efficient " ?? I saw it form long arcing arms to reach the further ones... is an arc the most efficient way?? How did you map in lakes, rivers, and mountains?
Amazing...... I believe this honestly shows how some things can appear to have intelligence and thought.... And maybe even being directed by something unknown.... But it all just comes down to the beauty of reality and math and science.
it does not, it grows in all directions and strenghtens paths when something is found, nothing special. That, or this stupid clip isn't the whole story...
@@numbblackpicture Sure? I dont' see what you are trying to prove or unprove here? However, I don't believe there is anything but the laws of nature guiding its actions.
@@barkfish6853 I only say that you interpret more into the video than it actually states. The guy seems very passionate about this mold, but the video doesn't really show why or what's the conclusion, there're plenty of informations missing so I could have some sort of "aaahh" moment, or something that impresses me, now I'm stuck with simply thinking the mold "smells" foodsources over a certain distance..
it further develops vessels that provide it with more food, while neglecting ones that don't. therefore the most efficient lines remain among all of the bad ones.
The difference Is the Slime mold is trying to solve the geometrical solution in every way possible at the same time (every geometrical possibility) with all the feedback coordinately. Instead humans (and maybe computers) are trying to solve One path at the time
Bit of a bait and switch there, talking about solving mazes in the title and then barely mentioning it in the video. I mean, yeah, the mapping thing is impressive, but I came here to see slime molds solve mazes.
The topics this channel brings up are always super interesting but they are always way too short!
there's no funding by the corporatists in this shit so...
It is fine as it is straight to the topic and very understandable in just a short time!
Such nonsense
@@kentadran except the title says can slime mold solve mazes? Yet we're hearing about how it solves infrastructure design for railways 😢
I've seen other video on this mould, it truly would have been spectacular to see a longer video. I love to learn.
Do you maybe have a link to that longer video?
You wanna learn, but can't spend 5/15 seconds typing a query into a search engine, like UA-cam/Google.
Meanwhile, waiting for some (human interaction) to be spoon fed.
Cool story bro
@@DrDeathAribertHeimHk47 If you are a scientist and can tell me what is the right ones then yes, I'd do so. I'd rather have new information not regurgitated stuff that was in the tv show. Thank you. It's not like I ~don't~ take the time to Google new things. So thank you for sharing your snark with me, I appreciate it much. 🙄
@@hunakosdem it was either a discovery or something else entirely on TV, it was very fascinating to me to see how the mould moved. It's been more than 2 yrs since I saw it, I'm sorry but I don't have photographic memory.
To be fair, the slime mold does not have to consider factors like geography, commute patterns, peak traffic flow rates, noise control regulations, etc. But the emerging structure is amazing nevertheless!
It's beautiful because it can express the most optimal path on a 2d plain without those things into consideration. It's up to us to figure out the rest ;)
No. I think you could make multiple Petrie dishes for different average and peak times, and make them 3d terrain models instead of 2d. If there is a river or Terrain feature then a little wall there on the model might Suffice.
I am not sure if the amount of nutrients lead to certain paths being strengthened more than others which would help accaount for population size. If not they could make the model a lot larger and have a few small piles next to each other to represent the larger population.
Needless to say there are numerous ways this could be utilized practically when designing systems or at least to double check if there isn’t a more efficient solution than the engineered one. When I worked as a fulfillment center designer at Amazon this is something I could have actually used on several occasions. You will be surprised how many multi million dollar decisions about building layouts are sort of winged by designers and then elaborately justified in engineering reports.
WHY DOES THIS FEEL CUT SHORT?!...I NEED an explanation!!!
Domino is legend they do this alot! no explanation, i feel like unsubscribing!
I agree, I don't know why I am still here
It's a snippet of one of their TV specials. They don't make content specially for youtube. That would be silly. How could they pay the production staff?
Tory Tatter there bbc. they could cure world hunger! bbc “”””billlionares banging cash””” bbc
What do you not understand?
You could achieve the same thing with a swarm intelligence algorithm, which is essentially what this is. You could also use ants in a similar setup and see similar results since the paths that ants take depend on the pheromones they leave behind, more ants using the same path results in more pheromones and strengthening the network.
Except ants don't always optimize their path
@@AppleBS11 Indeed, but do the slimes really always get optimized solutions? I know they said "the most efficient" in the video but I find that hard to believe.
@@Ninja9191 idk man, I never observe a slime before, although I have on ants, so take their words with a grain of salt
Don't compare ants to slime, just don't
@@Ninja9191 they actually did find the "most efficient" solution, you can also watch a video from singingbanana and see how soap can outsmart you. :)
It's a really amazing experiment, demonstrating how these small , actually small organisms that doesn't have any evidence of thinking or brain storming actually doing something we Human did
I'm now fungus pilled.
Based
Cordyceps
So that's moulds plan on taking out Tokyo, now we know.
Uh oh
well, it's pretty easy to connect 2 points tho, the slime also doesnt have obstacles like mountains and bad ground, which influenced how we built our roads
But you easily ignored that slime does not eyes or brains but still can do these stuff. You truly are a genius among mankind . Bravo
I did some research on that experiment, and they actually used brighter lights to simulate mountains and rivers since the slime avoids light
yeah, it would be dumb to do a building project without adding the limitations of the terrain.
In the video he mentioned that it was for a Underground Railroad system. Which ignores everything u just pointed out. My thing is wouldn’t a straight line be the best option I don’t get how curving is more efficient
@@khalilannabi3576 you do still have to consider terrain for underground trains. It's hard to a bulldozer up a mountain.
wouldn't the most efficient be a straight line between two points? I'm not sure if I'm missing something here...
You aren't missing anything, this is just a shit clickbait video and a researcher trying to get more funding
This is definitely clickbait... however, to your point, the mold isn't connecting two points, it's connecting multiple points at the same time. It's very similar to connecting two dots, but the resource allocation and pattern are very different.
They are just connecting to whichever dot comes next via the shortest made route
I think they just made it up. A railway system is an entirely different thing with populations and terrain to consider. Not the case here.
No, see: ua-cam.com/video/dAyDi1aa40E/v-deo.html
It takes more or less the quickest path to get to each oat flake and makes paths connecting all of them together. It's all very logical, therefore it would seem to have some sort of brainless intelligence unknown to us. Fascinating!
It does not. Look at it. It's total random trial and error.
It's trial and error. When something works it does more of jt. The fastest way from one point to another is just a straight line. Nothing genius about that
@@eggtimer2 actually, it CAN sense the oats and their relative size.
What about topography? Can it do the same if a mountain is in its path?
I could watch and grow slime mold all my life, this shit is seriously awesome to watch and observe
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that people out there actually have "Fricker" as their last name?
1. Roadways and subways look the way they do because of complicated topography and land barriers. They're not efficient.
2. The path the slime mold creates is nowhere near the "most efficient" path. I could connect the oat nodes much more efficiently using a ruler.
3. It's purely a coincidence that the mold path's look similar to Tokyo's subway, because the slime mold doesn't have any barriers or complicated topography to traverse. It's on a flat surface.
4. Why is everybody pretending like the slime mold is creating efficient pathways? This is some stupid biology party trick.
I need to know more about slime moulds ! any longer documentary recommendations please ?
This research is incredibly old. Maybe 5 years?
Feels like a self replicating neural network
What is amazing about this is that if we had know this 120 years ago at the start of the Industrial Revolution we would have been able to use this for a lot of practical applications like factory layout design or oil pipeline paths. We would not have had to wait decades for computers to catch up. It wouldn’t work in ever situation but there are probably countless examples where it would have led to improvements.
I think one thing that is also amazing are that some species of ants will build elaborate ant hill structures. And there is often a building or structure made by humans with Beautiful gothic architecture that looks very similar.
It can communicate and expand.
Water does too
The world is so connected and complex !!
I thought that _the BBC_ were officially prohibited from advertising, to give the illusion of impartiality?
I didn't expect it to be this interesting when I clicked.
So fun and games until you open your cereal and it's all covered in yellow slime
That's excluding many variables, including: geography, resources, and wars. While this is neat, it's not presented as relevant
like most scientific *theory*
Not relevant? Finding out something like more efficient railway systems seems like it would be pretty relevant. Of course like you said, Geography would play a part with many areas not being able to have tracks put on them, just seems like relevant information to me. Wars and resources aren’t an issue everywhere.
@@Crazy__Canuck Can you enlighten me on that? I'm pretty sure that railway systems or traffic works are designed with computer algorithms...
@@Crazy__Canuck they used light as obstacles for the mold, because the slime mold hates light. So the light imitates mountains and other geographical limitations.
Makes that slime mold more intelligent than primitive, violent, power hungry humans if you ask me. 🤷🏻♂️
I quit my job as a city planner and gave my job to the slime mould.
what else do they feed on?
It's not solving it, it's just growing wherever it can grow...
But didn’t it just find the most efficient way by trying everything? And just saving the connections that were shortest? If we could do that for a rail system it would also take a lot less time, the problem is the process, if given a massive complex goal, could it really complete it?
Is it possible for slime mold, or funguses or neurons to grow in unexpected directions because there’s a biological benefit to doing so? Is it possible for them to discover hidden dimensions in order to create better connections or shorter distances? Just curious.
Same ideology for solving public transit problems👍🏼
It looks like there are finite resources and this is just this living thing surviving
i just watched a story on NOVA about slime mold.the first thing that came to mind was GLIOBLASTOMA and how it spread and had veins and liked sugar. i wonder if research on slime mold could come up with a cure for cancer?
it took 1000 time less to mold to form those patterns, but also engineers made railways to withstand million time longer
Well, yes. Engineers made roads for heavy vehicles and harsh climate conditions. Slime mold is just doing it to feed itself. Does it bother you or why do you compare it like that?
Angel Ortiz i mean there's nothing practical watching mold forming some patterns and then being surprised and saying "we have to learn something from mold!" since there's nothing surprising. also for some reason i dont like that type of people comparing fibonacci numbers with sunflower seeds and golden ratio with slime's shell and then claiming that this is god's creation and blah blah blah. i'm more surprised by talent of railway ingeneers, than by mold trying to feed itself
@@trimethoxy4637 Nothing surprising? This slime mold (which isn't technically mold since it isn't a fungus), doesn't have brain cells, nor muscles, it's mainly unicellular and has more than one nucleus and it's still able to move, solve problems, and form efficient networks. How is that not surprising?
It may not be practical in the sense that it doesn't help a human being thrive in its dumb society, but it's practical for this organism to survive, for those interested in mapping out routes, learning about microorganisms's behavior, or for those who hunt these creatures (i.e. animals).
This slime mold and the way it behaves is real life. Those roads you see out there were just made because a group of people/corporation in the past forced us to move great distances to survive using cars (you can't hunt your food, you have to travel to the supermarket and commute to work to afford food). A delusion for you to give someone money (i.e. Power). So, the practicality of something is subjective. Learning to pay your taxes may be practical to you because you're forced to pay taxes, but taxes is just a human invention. It isn't practical in natute/real life.
Besides, this slime mold isn't trying to impress anyone, especially not you. The world doesn't revolve around you.
And religion is just another human invention.
The slime took the shortest paths between the oats once it found them.
Can't wait for the anime.
youre in luck in 2022, check out Sabikui Bisco which is about a fungal-themed apocalypse.
Can someone please tell me what are these slime thingies (English is my third language so couldn't anderstand the word )
Can i use this video?
so simple yet so amazing :D
ikr :D
if only we were that smart
Real question is can click bait solve a maze...
They answered that tho.
No.
Master bait can!
Overrated comment. Ghey
this isn't clickbait, if that's your message
Things like this makes me question everything in life.
Who wouldda thunk it, the slime mould is a travelling salesman!
Wow! This is incredible!
how fast do they move?
Gods world is truly amazing ,where even the tiniest of organism has such unique and mindblowing features.
Computer Science and Binary teaches us that it requires only two states interacting with each other to create our reality on a computer screen. Which means all logic can be boiled down to attraction and repulsion; yes no; on off... ect..... So if the most complex intelligence can be created from simple 1 and 0..... then a single cell slime mold is like the primitive side of the same coin... It's connecting the most efficient nodes because that's the path of least resistance. It can't afford to waste energy traveling in weird patterns, it just goes towards food. I'm sure once it notices it takes longer to get nutrients from a node via one path vs another.... it'll delete the longer path and keep the shorter route.... This is very simple and elementary logic.
I can probably code a slime mold program in an afternoon that'll move and behave just like what we watched.... It's fascinating if you don't know anything about math science.... but it's pretty basic when you do.
This is asking how will u connect the dots to maximize resource distribution, taking only position and amount of resources available at each dot into account. Not so simple as a straight line connecting them. Video titles could be better though.
Wow if I had known this it would’ve been much more interesting when I was doing this slime lab in school
OHH I GET IT. Since the slime mold finds the most efficient way to get to their food, they could use this knowledge to make roads and other connections more efficient :OOO
Ah nvm, they said it in the video
I've known some folk who would do less well than the slime mold.. :)
i would be even cool if molt doesnt fill every space in that maze
The amazing thing is, the mold fills up the whole maze and then kills off parts of his body except the shortest route through the maze.
So now all we need the slime mold to do is create cost-efficient paths in their networking too.
THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY
Now do the same but make it an artificial 30000 to one scale total recreation of the topography, and densities of soul/sediment/rock and then see the 3D train system it makes
WOW that is a cool experiment
not having a brain is not the same as not having a mind.
true. and vice versa
It obviously does have a way
Slime molds have yet to find a distance between life and the afterlife, showing it doesn't exist.
alt title:the blob becoming smart
Ok but why do you say it's the "most efficient " ?? I saw it form long arcing arms to reach the further ones... is an arc the most efficient way??
How did you map in lakes, rivers, and mountains?
it's trying. it's a dumb little fungus, it's not perfect.
I love nature.
Please explain more. You barely scratched the surface.
Shapes the form that takes the less energy to make?
Breadth first searching a maze and fancy network flow tech give that slime mould a CS degree
Amazing...... I believe this honestly shows how some things can appear to have intelligence and thought.... And maybe even being directed by something unknown.... But it all just comes down to the beauty of reality and math and science.
it does not, it grows in all directions and strenghtens paths when something is found, nothing special. That, or this stupid clip isn't the whole story...
@@numbblackpicture Sure? I dont' see what you are trying to prove or unprove here? However, I don't believe there is anything but the laws of nature guiding its actions.
@@barkfish6853 I only say that you interpret more into the video than it actually states. The guy seems very passionate about this mold, but the video doesn't really show why or what's the conclusion, there're plenty of informations missing so I could have some sort of "aaahh" moment, or something that impresses me, now I'm stuck with simply thinking the mold "smells" foodsources over a certain distance..
More of this more of this more of this more of this...why end it tooo soooon
I read about this on newsela I'm scared but yet I can't stop watching this it's so interesting
Wait so if I don't have a brain I can map out Tokyo?
He seems like a Fun-guy
Irrelevant to your joke, I know, but mold is actually quite different from fungi. As I understand anyway
it's really easy to make a rail system more efficient when you don't have to worry about existing infrastructure.
Slime Mould is able to connect the dots. Slime mould should get a job at Infowars
Slime molds don't need to account for trees or people's houses and stuff that could be in the way of train tracks.
Slim mold algorithms help scientists study dark matter.
no... no they don't.
Did they say his name is Mark Fricker?
fricker is a funny name
mind blowing
1:37 OMG that looklike tokyo bay
Amazing
How long does this take? Longer than the engineers?
It tooke the mold Hours......... it took engineer's years to come up with the most efficient subway system. 🤯
How it works: “path of least travel”
What I see: “efficiency!”
What fools see: “ITS INTELLIGENCE”
they act like this is some amazing concept when it's just how trees work.
So it can connect dots.... 😂
It can connect dots while use the least amount of energy, something us humans take even longer to do.
funny huh? mold is lazier and more efficient than us smart humans, like other animals
Everybody keeps saying efficient, but efficient in what terms ? what has it beein optimised for ?
Why did it end so abruptly? I wanted to know how it did create an optimal network
it further develops vessels that provide it with more food, while neglecting ones that don't. therefore the most efficient lines remain among all of the bad ones.
1:54 Pause here to see how ridiculous the claim is. Yes there are links between cities, but that’s as far as the conclusion can be drawn.
That the *MAIN* rails in and out of those cities ....you think its gonna be identical?
well the connections are actually pretty close. obviously the slime isn't gonna perfectly trace the black dotted lines.
Thats just crazy. Awesome though 👏
Soo cool!
So slime moulds are born with a engineering/drafting degree
So, wanna find a shortcut path? Ask the slime mould.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
The difference Is the Slime mold is trying to solve the geometrical solution in every way possible at the same time (every geometrical possibility) with all the feedback coordinately. Instead humans (and maybe computers) are trying to solve One path at the time
you can't just drop this kind of info and not elaborate.
damn amazing, now I want to see the full episode
Electricity does the same thing, path of least resistance
Amazing!
Note: I was here
Yeah slime is intelligence even got his own harem,.. wait what??
Why over dramatize it? This is amazing but no those two maps are not remarkably similar and the actual scientist didn’t claim that either.
Increíble.
Bit of a bait and switch there, talking about solving mazes in the title and then barely mentioning it in the video. I mean, yeah, the mapping thing is impressive, but I came here to see slime molds solve mazes.
0:18 "how do slime moulds respond to Pendulum?"