Fallout 3 is the Best Fallout Fan Game
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- Bethesda's acquisition of the Fallout series has been the most significant event in the lifetime of the franchise. Bethesda would purchase Fallout in 2004 due to how much they loved the classic games. They wanted to create their own Fallout game, set in their neck of the woods. What follows is the best Fallout fan game.
Fallout 3 is the Best Fallout Fan Game
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You know what I just thought of? In some of the new vegas DLCs you'll hear the phrase "Old World Blues" which means someone so blinded by the past they can't live in the present or move on to the future, seems fitting for bethesda's fallouts when you think about it.
@Leonard M That DLC on hard difficulty gives me chills, but this is so accurate
also seems fitting for people who trash fallout 3.
@@reredrumuoy not really, lol
Not really, Beth even told and did that they build there own stuff. SOmething you see in the new Games. Ignoring and not including older stuff from the Seres would make no sense at all. In the Lore and from a Gameplay perspective.
@@your-username-here2308 the hell kinda sentences
Fallout 3 was my first entry into the series. I hadn't played or ever heard of the previous games. The way I always saw Bethesdas fallout setting was "okay remember how everyone was scared of getting nuked in the 50s?
Ok what if that actually happened"
Yeah, which is fine. The OG games painted the picture better that it was far into the future when the bombs dropped. What you say here is not a bad run down of Fallout.
Yeah... but in different future.
All those people starting their journey with Fallout 3, while I choose New Vegas ;) ;) :pp
@@kanalkucker14 me too lol and then I played fallout 3 and don't even finish it ddue to crashing every 2 minutes and now I'm playing fallout 1 with a mod that fixes every single bug in. Fallout 1 (not all of the visual bugs though). It's called Fallout ET tu and it's basically fallout 1 rebuilt in. The fallout 2 engine. It's the exact same but with some accessories and stuff and some weapons from fallout 2.
EsaiTheRevolution that’s what I thought the story was about as well.
The first time I played through fallout 3, was before the ending patch. I clearly remember loading that last save and trying so mamy different things. That original ending was one of the only real blemishes I could see at the time, when it came out.
The OG ending needed some work on many levels.
The ending of the game was perfect because you started out the game being born so dying at the end is a good way to wrap it up
its only a good choise from a story perspective
start with birth, end with death story telling
Conceptually it's okay. Execution was awful. You're standing there with a radiation immune Super Mutant, a radiation immune ghoul, or a highly radiation resistant friend in Power Armor and they're like "No, you should needlessly die even though one of your many companions could accomplish the same feat with no fatal repercussions."
Granted, it's been corrected and you can accomplish it in exactly that way now, but it was definitely a bit of a stumble, story-wise.
This just shows that all Bethesda cares for when making these games is brand recognition - it HAS to have BoS, caps, etc., even if it doesn't make any sense for them to be there
Yeah I get that feeling too.
Well one could argue that it makes sense for them to want to add these things into their game for fear of Fallout fans going "Where is *iconic Fallout thing x*?" Doesn't mean it makes sense from a storytelling point though.
@@willblue1831 I agree about that. I think a lot of that was fan service, even if it was fan service to themselves as well.
@Jona Most threatening thing around is the Legion? I think I'd rather storm their camp naked rather than go to the fucking quarry. Fuck Deathclaws
Jesion 2001
BoS, caps, super mutants, vault dweller, radscorpions, etc. Make all the excuses and all the reasons you want, but the real reason is laziness and the fact that Bethesda only wants brand recognition.
Very well done sir...fallout 3 got me through my deployment to Iraq in 09-10... Made me a fan for life...that's why 76 so disappointing
Great work soldier! /salute ❤️
Wait? What were you doing over there? It's not like you were drafted.
I don't understand why people hate on 76 it's actually so addicting
@@CayeDaws I signed up... Wasn't forced...would do it again
@@prequall I cain't and I won't
Was I the only person who found the promise of Fallout 3 being "Oblivion with guns" titillating?!?! I mean, I know I'm the only person who weirdly says titillating, but guns in Oblivion sounds great!
For fallout fans no it wasn't titillating
It doesn't have to be a negative thing for sure.
In regards to the video, I agree completely and feel as a fan, I became complacent in the lazy way Bethesda incorporates 50's references into Fallout rather than 50's Retro-futurism. Like why an actual Tommy Gun and Zoot Suit Gangster? Those aren't even the correct decade! There's countless primary sources of speculative future amenities from the actual 50's. Bethesda could use at least do a little research into that unending trove. So un-titillating of them!
I understand the negative response to it but I may never have gotten into the games without Fallout 3.
So... overall I love it.
I also like that the first-person perspective made it feel like a more personal experience compared to the isometric view of the classics.
Considering how broken Oblivion is... i can see why people got crazy over the idea lol
The way Bethesda created Fallout 3 remind me of how I used to draw my own versions of the movies and games I liked as a kid. They would have all the recognizable characters that would use the weapons and tools they used, there were the enemies (sometimes original, cooler ones), cool locations based on what I had seen etc. It was really cool and great for me, but in retrospect it was all done through the surface understanding of the source material by a dumb kid. And it was not meant to be anything more than that. I had passion but no real understanding of why I liked those things in the first place.
Now to do real justice to the source material I would have had to dig deeper, understood the character motivations, the background lore, driving forces through the stories etc. This is what should be expected of anyone continuing an existing franchise, otherwise you get shitty sequels. It requires both passion and understanding to create something truly great.
Now while it does seem that a lot of the Bethesda dev team actually did have genuine passion, they lacked understanding in a lot of places where it mattered. Thus the reuse of existing west-coast factions, characters, creatures and breaking established lore for one-off gags and such.
Shut the fuck up
@AKKuura this is the coolest comparison that ive seen of Beth Fallouts, bassically kid fanart with no understanding
Perfect analogy
+1
@@thatgirlinamask8699 Reminds me of when I use to do comics in kindergarten of my own idea of giant robots going on adventures based on stuff I saw on TV in Codename: Kids Next Door, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Turbo Power Rangers, Yu-gi-oh! and named the comic "Armed Core Armada" as a mash-up of Armored Core, this mech game I had a demo of on PS1 and Transformers Armada 'cause it sounded cool for a title.
Fallout 4 was my first entry to the Fallout games. It was pretty neat i tell ya. Felt like Skyrim at times. After many people on the internet saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas are the best games. So i started with Fallout 3. My god , it was breathtaking. Bloody loved the whole purification and enclave quest. It was amazing ended up sacrificing myself. And then i played New Vegas. And it completely possessed me. It was the superior version compared to 3. Fallout 3 has amazing locations and quests but New Vegas was the shit. The dialogues , guns , the main quest etc. Bloody loved it.
Fallout 3’s endings are kinda eh to me. If you sacrifice yourself you good. And if you don’t you’re kinda off favor. But New Vegas , goddamn New Vegas’ endings still keeps people discussing which one is THE best ending for the mojave.
For Fallout 3, if you download the dlc Broken Steel you can actually survive sacrificing yourself and continue the game.
@@sockscav It still feels weird. Main story was poorly written and designed. Map is too big and also feels empty, Its from my perspective because when I start wander around in the FO3, cities and marked places are the only places where I can find lifeforms.
Yeah Fallout 3 isn’t that big but i agree it sometimes do feel empty.
OXY It’s a post apocalyptic game so it should feel like that. I absolutely hated FO4 as a Fallout game because everything was in abundance. By level 4, i think i had more bobby pins than i did in the entire FO3 game. Between FO3 and NV, i agree with the original comment. My favorite game btw the two was FO3, but NV killed it when it comes to storyline and options with the main quest. I just preferred FO3s world, buildings, and side quests. Both games are a ton of fun and its sad how far the franchise has fallen since then.
This is my experience too
Fallout 3 will always hold a special place in my heart for being my first fallout. I wasn’t old enough to get the game so I had to talk my grandpa into getting it for me and from that point on it’s the only game I played for months. I credit it to my love of RPGs today and why I picked up the original fallouts and NV later on.
Nice. So many good stories about how people got turned onto Fallout.
To be completely honest, I think there are a lot of overhaul fan mods which completely blow FO3 out of the water. The people who make these mods are bigger fans, and have more talent than Bethesda. The only thing they do not have is their own game and a budget. FO3/FO4/etc. Soon enough when you get your PC you will be able to check out these overhaul mods and see how they compare with vanilla FO3, etc.
For sure.
Which mods? Could you give me the names of those mods?
OXY Fallout Wanderer’s Edition for starters totally overhauls the game. Realistic weapon damages and different wasteland starts makes new playthrough a random and fun to RP. Tale of Two Wastelands breaks Fallout 3 GOTY down to a mod and installs it into Fallout New Vegas which gives you all of 3 in the more updated New Vegas engine, and seamlessly integrates it into the new Vegas story. Stop by the Fallout 3 nexus and check the top mods of all time and you’ll have decades old mods to scroll through of huge quality.
@@Numbers1and19more I have TTW Installed with more than +90 mods. I'm still looking for some mods that make FO3 interesting. It feels so empty and boring.
@@Jankunas_Reviews Not them. They are completely different things.
Still have a soft spot for 3 due to introducing me to the franchise. I now consider 3 a tech demo, where it only meant to introduce how modern Fallout games would be like with future entries building from there. New Vegas to me the much better game.
3 there are a lot of elements that could be rewritten to make it make better sense. The BoS should have the Outcasts be the main group not the ones we known, aka the guys who want to left the hell alone.
Caps would have worked if it was a currency with only certain NPCs used them mainly random merchants.
Enclave could only work if it was just a minor group that’s struggling to survive. They shouldn’t have been the main antagonists.
Really a tech demo? Not you specifically but man new vegas fanboys really show that they hate everything now new vegas.
Nathan A Yes, because game played very safe and used so many elements from Oblivion. The combat was very rough something Bethesda admitted in 4 announcement which was why the Doom team was brought in for that game.
Nathan A I mean I like fallout 3 but the story is so fucking trash compared to new vegas. (3 was my first fallout)
Pira fallout 3 wasn’t built like fallout 1-2. It was literally oblivion with guns. Fallout 3’s story is more told through NPC dialogue, side quests, and exploration. Terminals and notes left around explaining mini stories around the capital wasteland. New Vegas is where they took fallout 3 and made it more survival and more lore based than fallout 3.
Instead of the enclave struggling to survive, instead they are rare and travel in small groups but they have a much higher health cap and deal much more damage
I always assumed that the caravans were from the west cost and introduced caps as a currency. That or the brotherhood did so.
Are you doing all the fallout games now? Because I am up for that
Just moving to what calls me, though I am working on a New Vegas video now lol
I look forward to it
I like Oblivion. I like guns. I like Fallout. It's the smores and pb&j dynamic.
"Best fallout fan game"
is like
"best game fueled by mountain dew" at the game awards
You're goddamn right.
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I wish youtube would stop recommending me Fallout videos... Its a painful subject. Back when i was 14 or so... I thought Fallout 3 was the worst thing ever made... It ruined my favourite franchise and setting. Being a teenager at the time i didn't care much and just got on with mass effect... Then came Fallout 4...Its main story that was a repeat of fallout 3. its complete lack of sidequests that weren't a one way kill/loot trip made me consider Fallout 3 as the best thing Bethesda had ever done for Fallout. Aside from letting Obsidian make their own version of course.
The Fallout franchise was dead to me after 4 that made the arrival of 76 a non event and any subsequent Fallout game is already in my "I dont give a shit list". All that is left are the melancholic ambient sounds of Fallout 1-2 background music that give me the same sense of emptiness loneliness and dread as they always have with a tinge of sadness for this once amazing RPG series. Turned into a survival looter shooter.
God fallout fanboys are some of the biggest crybabies in the world
Michael jai White right lmao
@@johnhawthorn5393 Can't really call me a fanboy because as the franchise is now. I don't give a shit. You can call me a fanboy of amazing writing and morally grey themes. I will admit to that any time of the day but i don't prescribe to be a fan of any single thing i'm a fan of certain aspects rather then one single thing like a game franchise.
@@seriouslywhatever3234 crybaby
@@johnhawthorn5393 you are so childish
Many prefer New Vegas to FO3, but i always loved the darker and sadder atmosphere of 3.
@Flying Kitty what? Have you played fallout 3?
@Flying Kitty what about rivet city and tenpenny tower?
That's what I liked most about it. They did an amazing job of making the capital wasteland feel like a post-nuclear hellscape. All the other games have a downright optimistic atmosphere in comparison.
Oblivion with guns damn a game stop employee who knows what he's talking about
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It makes sense that the Brotherhood of Steel would be on the East Coast: Their original mission was to find the Midwestern chapter (from Tactics) and they couldn't find them, and a line of dialogue from one Scribe implies that they are in a bad shape, so the canon ending in that one was that the Calculator was destroyed, but the chapter was exahusted and they had shelved the reunification plans. Enclave being there makes sense too, New Vegas suggested that they even have a chapter in Chicago, and they must have had trekked through the entire Midwest, just like the BoS did. DC being the capital of US, so Enclave must have had a vested interest in taking it.
In retrospect, if it was a fan made game, surely the option to join the Enclave would have been available. They are not as genocidal as in 2, with intent to do that is being limited to Eden and some other people. Autumn even expressed concern for Eden's plans, which is why he had those self-destruct codes as a 'backup plan'. If they had a route, one of their quests could be to make Eden self-destruct, as opposed what we have now, where self destruction is optional.
Also, considering what Bethesda is doing now, i would welcome a true "fan game". Preferably one where it takes place before the war, or better yet, in Europe. Europe in the timeline ended up in a worse state, and considering that Colin Moriarty and Tenpenny outright immigrated from Europe, the war didn't make it much better. Either way, retconning stuff was kind of a strech, but they explained it well. i hope this makes sense.
Am I the only one who sees a missed opportunity with the Chinese remnants being reduced to little more than an unrelated dungeon crawl completely isolated from anything going on with the main story at all? At least the Shi played a role in the main quest in Fallout 2.
Around 2012, I was given a pirated copy of FO3 and FONV. The copy of FO3 didn't work and I still wonder what would happened if FO3 was my first Fallout.
*reads title up until last part*
Brain: Whoa, hold up there cowboy
*reads last part*
Oh, alright. That's agreeable enough.
That is what I was going for!
"Fallout 3 is the Best Fallout Fan game."
Fallout Miami: Hold my nuka cola
Miami is a mod. Not a full game.
Miami is a joke. Ghouls with a rubber ring? Seriously?
@@moskva-kassiopeya Give it a chance lol. Probably better than 76.
Same the guy at GameStop told me ‘oblivion with guns and a nuclear apocalypse’ I literally said ‘sold’ and bought it right then and there. The first time I stepped out of the vault is truly a feeling I cherish to this day.
Bethesda's involvement with the franchise is a double edged sword. On the one hand it put the franchise into the public eye and brought so many new fans on board including myself. On the other hand Bethesda seems to be more interested in making the series more casual and focusing on the iconic elements of Fallout's world rather than telling new and interesting stories in the universe.
Yeah, as much as I like New Vegas, it just wouldn't exist without Bethesda. I'd like to think there's a solution that pleases all of us. Personally I think they should carry on their main Fallout series, as well as an online game, but also have a spin off series set in the West that is closer to NV to cater to the 'hardcore' RPG crowd. There's no real shortage of people who can create these kind of games, Obsidian managed it, it can always be farmed out to a different studio
I gotta say the 1950's aesthetic is one of my favorite aspects of the game. It makes sense. At that time in American culture things were going perfectly because of the discovery of nuclear energy being used in day to day life and things were plentiful. There was no adversity so there was no reason for the culture to evolve and by the time adversity did happen, I guess there was no Bob Dylan's or what not, there was no thought given to changing the American way because it was more important now then ever to remain as we are and keep our values and slice of Americana. That's how I interpreted the game anyway and I enjoyed it very much.
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I really like fallout 3 but new vegas oh babe i cant rid of it from my mind, i really really love this game.
Fallout 3 is also when it stopped being a tragedy and started being a fantasy, which is in line with its status as fanfic. 1 and 2 were about scarcity, injustice, and despair. Everyone was dying and it was a battle to die the slowest as communities fight over the last remaining resources on Earth. In the 3D games, the outlook is always sunny and multiple generations can spend their working lives looting one grocery store that somehow never runs out of stuff.
Groceries with supplies that never got looted completely in 200 years? I've always tried to rationalized.
Lmao someone plays on very easy.
Back in 2008, I was introduced to Oblivion for the first time fell in love (except I never beat it to this day ) and I also got introduced to Fallout 3 and hated. About a year after Skyrim which I was struggling to get into I saw a video on youtube reviewing a mod for Skyrim and I watched it. Thought it was neat and checked out the channel reviewing it. It was Alchectbreach and I saw that he played a Fallout game I never heard of New Vegas. So I watched and got interested and decided to give 3 another shot because they looked similar enough and fell in love.
I like New California better.
New California is a mod, not a full-blown game. I agree it has many aspects better than Fallout 3.
@@TKsMantis The audacity.
New California fucking blows. The Vault section even I’ll admit blows Beth Fallout the water. But as soon as you get out of the vault, God it’s bad.
@@TheApparentGamer It is bad tbf, but then again so is 3.
It is good in the vault as soon as you are out it sucks.
To be fair, "Oblivion with guns" is actually the best review of Fallout 3 I have ever heard.
10/10
I prefer fo3 over all others in this series. I just never got invested in the west coast games.
This actually makes a lot of sense. "Its like fans who lived in Maryland wanted to make a fallout game set where they live." Can't believe you put it in to words so well!
Interesting take on FO3. I started the series with this game and enjoyed it. I was never into games like this up to this point. When NV got announced I pre-ordered it and wasn't disappointed. I had hated that you couldn't kill who you wanted in FO3 and that the story was trash, but the exploration sold me. In New Vegas the ante was upped and I to this day can't go back to FO3 because I keep remembering how linear it was. It was still fun at the time though, but I had never known the reasons why bottle caps were currency or why deathclaws were in DC. I just went with it back then.
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I know I’m a little late, but very interesting video indeed. I don’t want to say I agree entirely, but very interesting for sure. I think to classify something the difference between fan or not fan game, as someone who may or may not enjoy their 9 to 5 is slightly strange to me I guess. But I did enjoy this video, very good and different take
I’ll never forget 2008, being 8 years old and watching my older cousin play fallout 3 running around megaton, never wanted a game more.
Hope i live long enough to see the day where i wake up, open youtube and 1st thing i see is * Fallout 3 Remastered Official Trailer *
It is Fallout 4. Remastered version for New Vegas is what they should do. It deserves it.
And also a Remake for Fallout 3 with better story and other stuff would be good too.
@@OXY187 Fallout 3: The Good Version
Fallout 3 is my favorite fallout game, it seemed to have more action and more satisfying missions with just enough rpg elements. Fallout New Vegas while being a superior game RPG wise had a cumbersome and abhorable ammunition and gun maintenance system that consumed far too much of the players time and energy, I say that even as an ardent fan of looters shooters. Fallout New Vegas while having deep RPG roots had too many missions that felt like fetch quests, instead of just fewer missions that let you explore and run into trouble along the way, like Fallout 3 did. Fallout 3 was my favorite Fallout game, it was mostly all meat and potatoes.
The ammo system was one of the best parts of NV, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy that. I don't really agree with you at all on the other stuff. Fallout 3 I never felt right. I can't really put it in words. I just didn't feel part of it.
That's the most based take I've ever heard
Thank you? Hopefully, you see that as a good thing.
More like the most coward take I've ever heard. He genuinely believes Fallout 3 is good but still has to deliver this in a way he doesn't piss off the crowd who prefers New Vegas. "Look guys! I like Fallout 3 bu-but I still think its not good enough to be considered an "official" Fallout game, ok?" Give me a break, so being unrelated to previous entries in your series both gameplay and story wise makes a game become a "fan game"? Guess Resident Evil 4, GTA 3 and Metroid Prime are "fan games" and no one told me this before.
Fallout 3 isn't a fan game, its an official game, its canon and its even referenced in New Vegas (ED-E comes from the Enclave military base that was show in Broken Steel), no matter how much the Fallout purists say otherwise. The fact its too different from the original games is irrelevant. Coming up with room temperature takes such as "Fallout 3 is the best Fallout fan game" or "Fallout 3 is a good game, but a bad Fallout game" is just a silly way to recognize that F3 wasn't as bad as so many fans made it up to be but still act like theres a methodology set in stone to create Fallout games and if you don't follow that you can't be considered a "true" Fallout game.
The problem with this is that, as show by NeverKnowsBest's fantastic Fallout retrsopective, this methodology has never existed outside of the original Fallout game.
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@@ghgtare Yikes. Sorry you didn't like my take on it. I assure you these are my real thoughts and I in no way was trying to tiptoe around to not piss anyone off. I didn't make this video to bash Fallout 3 or Bethesda. I made it to highlight the reasons why I thought it could be considered a fan game. Thank you for your comment and feedback.
@@ghgtare you guys sure love to get all pissed when someone says anything "negative" about Fallout 3, eh? Lol
@@TKsMantis I enjoyed the video. You made several valid points and it was a pleasant change from the classic binary of love it or hate it that these things seem to devolve into.
Have you seen the video "Why Fallout isn't Fallout" by Indigo Gaming? It had similar points to yours and is worth the watch, in my opinion.
Just like i did on Seamus's video, I'm gonna have to disagree with the retrofuturism bit. It is mostly an afterthought in fallout 3 with the minor acception of places untouched by the war, Vault 112 & 101. Vault 112 makes the most sense, and is sad as it's the story of a man desperately clinging on to a lost time where he felt safe. For Vault 101, I'm going to guess they had old greaser movies lying around and that's what inspired Butch and co. People tend to cling to some sort of culture, culture is ultimately derived from other cultures, the idea that people would look to something and emulate it isn't at all far fetched.
As for the cars and whatnot, these were in fallout 1 & 2 so idk why it's brought up.
the retrofuturism is hammed up a bit in fallout 4 but it seems mostly incidental, as in, "I'm wearing this because it's available" and not "I'm wearing this because it's fashionable"
Great points. Thank you for sharing and for checking out the video. I disagree slightly as you already know, but I think you have some valid points for sure.
@@TKsMantis ty frend, it's a good video all around
@@JohnDoe-ni3bt Some of Bethesda’s work in FO4 with the retrofutruism is actually pretty great over all for the games IMO. Sentry bots are now terrifying and same with power armor thanks to their new designs. Although prewar retro Boston clashes hardcore with the gothic style of FO3 Washington
Excellent production. Very professional
I’m glad you gave the game a fair chance, most people enjoyed it before NV came out. Thanks for the video!
I agree. It makes sense though, people saw something amazing in New Vegas and wanted to see that kind of thing continued. Once Fallout 4 was released, I think people got discouraged due to how much is was stripped.
Fallout 3 has a special place in my heart because I grew up with no internet and no xbox live (obviously since I had no internet) and it was one of the 4 games I had access to beside red faction gorilla (and 2 others I cant remember what the names were)
Granted the opening segment of Fallout 2 alludes to American society of that world being based of 1950s futurism
Exactly
Funny enough, i am born on the very same day Fallout 1 was released. It's one of the best game i ever played.
Fallout is in your blood.
I actually liked the different take on the Brotherhood in Fallout 3. I think I'd keep them in the game, but instead of being the main faction you side with for Project Purity, they could be in a side quest where you help a Renegade Brotherhood of Steel chapter take over Raven Rock, which used to be an Enclave base before they all moved out west, but it is now controlled by Raiders or something. Perhaps this Brotherhood has goals that align a bit more with the original BoS, but they are willing to take on new members because of how stranded they are.
Thanks for this I love these videos. Fallout & Fallout 2 will always be my favourite games of all time.
They are at the top of my list as well.
Same here 1 & 2 are my favourite
I had never heard about Fallout till that Game Informer you mentioned. I remember getting that issue in the mail and reading about it. Time passed and I forgot about it until I was at GameStop and seen the game and remembered it. I bought it that day and fell in love with it which lead me to Skyrim where I SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS of my life between Fallout 3, New Vegas and Skyrim. I just picked up FO4 again during this Cvirus and I'm still loving it
Your channel is such an amazing find, thank you for such great content revolving around one of the most interesting franchises
To be fair I think Bethesda really hit it home with the institute and railroad. You get the teases in 3, and then in 4 you see the power (or lack there of) of both factions.
honestly it's so odd hearing about places I've lived around for so long, like when you mentioned North Gate mall
This is off topic but the only thing I liked about fallout 76 was the fact that Bethesda focused on west Virginia's falklore and I would like Bethesda to continue to do something similar to make all of their fallout games look different and more interesting
Or they could just give the fallout franchise back to obsidian I wouldn't mind that either, I wish they could cooperate with obsidian on a new fallout game like they did with my favourite fallout game Fallout New Vegas that would be pretty cool.
This is a wonderful explanation of what Fallout 3 is. I've listened to Shamus Young's video, I've listened to Mister Caption's 3-part Fallout 3 review _and_ his 3+ hour long Fallout 4 review "No Todds No Masters". And both of them have made some of my favourite videos on this game but you've succinctly described what 3 truly is in the best way possible.
Thank you for your kind words. I love those videos as well. I am glad you liked it and thank you for watching.
@@TKsMantis Well, thank you for making the videos you make. :)
Informative videos that expand on the point-of-view on a given topic are something of a favourite of mine. It helps that the quality of your videos has visible effort put into it.
UA-camrs, people like you deserve praise where it's due. It's certainly due here. :)
Grunt ELCAN Awww is the Bethesda fanboy butthurt his beloved Todd Howard's games aren't universally loved? Cry harder mate. You're pathetic
@Grunt ELCAN Voicing one's opinion isn't something many people do lightly, and while TKs-Mantis is talking about the same subject matter as many others have, he's expressed it in a way that I personally have not seen before. The best? Maybe, maybe not. But it's still good, and if you knew anything about making decent videos you'd appreciate the effort he's put into this one.
On top of that, I genuinely enjoyed his editing of his video and his tone and attitude to a conversation topic that has been saturated with negativity. TK's viewing of this game as a Fan made game is a unique opinion amongst what I've seen and after having been a hater of Fallout 3 for a long time, I've come to see the game in a new light not only because of TK but others who have discussed the same subject in different ways.
Finally, if you have such an outlook on people and their opinions, then what the hell are you doing on UA-cam? Who do you trust to have an opinion and on what, I wonder? Regardless, TK has made a good video said in a nuanced way, and he surely doesn't need me to defend him, just as neither he nor I will waste our time worrying about *your* opinion seeped with such contempt and how it will affect us. People like you make me wonder why you're even here, if nothing else but to be negative and to spread it around. Which, if that's the case, then dude... that's sad. Sad because people want to be happy and they won't let people like you bring them down to your level. TK will continue in spite of you, I will continue in spite of you.
So other than provoking this lecturing response, (of which I personally enjoy so thank you for that), what do you hope to accomplish?
In the context of DLC, maybe not a full game, I've always held that Far Harbor was Bethesda's best attempt at Fallout writing, setting, and atmosphere.
Choice and consequences, many options, tons of new and original enemies, situations you can solve with skills/character attributes and the island itself all lend itself to a unique but more "fallout" experience. If only the same could be said for the entirety of Fallout 4.
Great video keep up the work brotha!
Fallout 3 for me was the title that introduced me to the series. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up to you, but I still hold this game in high regard as one of my favorites from the xbox 360 years of my life...though New Vegas is up there as well so DON'T @ ME!
I don't know if you watched Never Knows Bests video on Fallout where he says Fallout 3 copied what people liked about the og fallouts without understanding its essence, in fact, the best parts of it might be the places where the creators actually tried to innovate.
I have not seen this but it sounds like this person and I agree completely.
@@TKsMantis He is very underrated (like you) check him out if you have a chance his sub count is like yours.
I like to imagine the reason caps are used as currency on the east coast is because there WAS no currency for a fat minute, but in one way or another (possibly BoS) they learned of the currency used on the west coast without understanding WHY it was used.
I need to finish fallout 3, I have like 200 hours on new Vegas and about 800 on fallout 4. Fallout 3 seems good I just need the time to play now.
Worth your time.
Just play ttw and you can continue nv
I remember before Fallout3 came out reading a review and thinking yeah I probably won't like it. Tried it anyways and now Fallout is my favorite game series.
Not going to lie, your first reaction to Fallout 3 fit my own to a tee- even down to the location in which you learned it!
One explanation I heard for why caps are used as a currency in the east is for the same reason the gold standard exists:
They're easy to identify, hard to replicate (NCR controls nuka cola factories in New Vegas to prevent inflation and
counterfeiting), and they dont deteriorate. As to how they ended up using it is likely because of trade caravan companies from out west traveling east and bringing their currency with them. It's not unrealistic to assume that large powerful merchant companies that can afford to make these expeditions could get the local populations use their currency, and since Nuka-Cola was an international (or at least nationwide) brand, it should be fairly easy to find them.
11:05 when you mention children of atom, i think of the mad monks in Wasteland 2 and how they used themselves as bombs for protecting caravans, being so maniacal that they would blow themselves up thinking they would become one with the bomb. Fascinating aspect and would've wished bethesda tried something similar, especially if they wanted to keep recreate that bleak tone from f1 :)
I think I remember reading in one of the games that bottlecaps transitioned into our form of currency because paper money had mostly been destroyed in the war or deteriorated by time where bottlecaps are found universally. There was more too it but personally I think it makes perfect sense.
I liked fallout 3 for the fact that it’s fallout. For a lot of people this was their introduction to the series, myself included. And I fell in love with the picture of you he world they’d created. Maybe their interpretation of the original 2d game from the 90’s isn’t flawless... but it’s fallout dammit.
11:00 - Bethesda did create two completely local factions that served the same function, but woefully underused them - Talon Company / Littlehorn Associates and The Regulators. Even the Sheriff of Megaton was a Regulator. The primary conflict of the game over the water purifier could’ve and should have been between Talon Company and The Regulators instead of Enclave vs BoS. My guess is, Bethesda went with Enclave vs BoS so that we’d have an excuse for obtaining Power Armor and the requisite training. Exactly like a fan homage would.
My first fallout game I ever played that introduced me to the fallout video game series . So nostalgic 😂 good memories .
Very eloquently put. Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played (and actually the second RPG I played, with Skyrim being the first) and I LOVED it at the time. I can see in hindsight now why objectively, it could have been much better. But no amount of criticism of the game will change the fact that I loved playing it and still do, even 12 years later.
I really appreciate your definition of it as a fan game.
Love Fallout 3 as well. One of my favorite games.
That title alone gets this video a like. I also find it important to note that in Old World Blues, the think tank is used to make a joke about the reusing of the bottle caps as currency.
I like the fact they included things from the first 2 games. It's now been done properley in 3D, its like when an old game gets remastered.
I'm a professional animator, I used to get so much enjoyment out of drawing and sketching in my spare time as a hobby. However, after doing that sort of stuff for 40+ hours per week it can be hard to do something for a hobby that you do for a paycheck. Having said that, if you truly care for something you can put it aside for some time if you don't feel you're in the mental state or attitude to work on something as an offshoot.
Fallout 3 has some issues but so does every Fallout game. I think it is certainly a "real" Fallout game and reflects the older games very well especially when compared to 4.
What do you mean when you say "reflects very well"
3 and 4 share the same problems.
4 just has better shooty shoots.
@@El_Descarriado I disagree. Fallout 3 has much better writing, choice, consequence, rp mechanics, and makes more sense thematically in the Fallout universe. I won't defend the main story though. 3 and 4 both have bad main stories but 3 has much better side quests than 4.
@@koyo3376 I'll give you side quests, but I disagree with the rest.
@@El_Descarriado I'm not trying to change anyone's mind so if you disagree than that's fine.
"Exciting characters" I literally remember 1; the woman that wants to write a book or something like that, i don't even remeber the name. And i played this and New Vegas the past year, but i can easily recognize nearly every character of the last one. Fallout 3 has damn forgettable characters.
I can remember quite a few characters from the game including Moira from Megaton (the woman who's writing the book.) So maybe that's somewhat subjective.
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I remember her, Sarah lions and butch (last one was fucking trash but still funny).
absolute bullshit.
I discovered Fallout thanks to 3. I used to watch gameplays of the game from an old Spanish UA-camr y used to watch. I would also read all the stories, items descriptions and stuff like that in the wiki. I was amazed, I simply fell in love with the game, but my parents would never buy me Fallout 3 since it was you know a violent game. And when I finally managed to play the game I literally spend entire days exploring and completing quests.
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Hindsight is 20/20.
I love the idea of the Mirelurks. The Mirelurks are a fascinating and creative addition; being the mutated descendants of the Maryland Blue Crab.
They could have been the East-Coast's answer to Deathclaws, or at least the scorpions. In addition, The culture of the Capital Wasteland could revolve around these creatures. Summer is crabbing season over here, and i could see that living on in 2277; settlements going on hunting parties after the Lurks during this time. There could also be a small semi-radiant quest revolving around this fact, and, sticking with Maryland crabbing tradition, you would take a penalty to your pay for killing too many, or killing females.
I can see guards of a town dressed in "chitin armor" made from the shells of lurks, and their major trade export would be the armor, and the meat (not to mention crab stock
Wish I could play Fo3 again. My laptop runs new Vegas but wont run fo3. New Vegas is my favorite anyway but fo3 was the first one I've played. I was so hooked back in the day
All I know is after fallout 76, Todd needs to have the next fallout be worked on for a minimum of 4 years. I’m willing to wait longer than that if it means redemption after what we got from fallout 76. We need a solid in depth story, better dialogue, more monsters etc. Todd and the team need to delve deep into the lore that is fallout.
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I do think the look of the guns and especially the energy weapons and almost all of the creatures look really good designs that match with retro futurism
Love your work keep it up!! (I dump alot of long comments sorry. just love fallout lol) I feel like the idea of making alot of entirely new creatures and leaving some out and adding all new factions to take the lead of the story does seem obvious in retrospect but i stand to reason that had Bethesda taken such a stark departure, although it would have made a stronger game overall, there would have been alot of even more outraged fans over receiving something that was so different. I think it was a hard-line to tow between not wanting to step on the toes of the previous games while still maintaining the recognizable aspects of the Fallout world.
Believe it or not, I'm playing Fallout 3 for the first time currently.
I've played New Vegas, Brotherhood of Steel (lol) Fallout 4 and 76 and finally OG Fallout.
Never played 2 or 3 or tactics.
I'm having a lot of fun with 3 so far and I admit, I think I underestimated it.
fallout 3 was the game that introduced me to the series. i just finished my mandatory military service in april 2008, with the release "bonus" i bought myself an xbox 360, a guitar and fallout 3 because some friend told me it was by the makers of morrowind (a game i was obsessed with) and it had life after the nuclear apocalypse as it's general topic (a topic i also was kinda obsessed with, as i had my major schoolprojects about nuclear energy in physics subject, and the MAD principle and the politics surrounding it in history subject) so it ticked all relevant boxes for me. i'm getting more and more into the lore of the fallout games in the last couple of years, but somehow fallout4 and fallout 76 don't appeal to me, i loved new vegas though.
Fallout 3 it's the best fallout game imo
Northgate mall, that throws me back
I really don't understand the whole "Bethesda thinks Fallout is set in the 50s and not the 50s interpretation of the future" thing. Like how isn't it 50s futurism? Those aren't 50s vehicles littering the streets, they're nuclear powered automobiles, most of them based on concept designs from the 50s which were literally designed to look futuristic. It's a world filled with robots, laser weapons, power armour and enough nuclear reactors to power the sun and its all themed around a 50s aesthetic. I agree with pretty much everything else, but I really don't understand this criticism.
Think of it like this. Fallout 3 (based on the thesis) is: The 1950s got nuked, but also they had some science fiction robots and stuff, and not Fallout 3 takes place 200 years after the world ended in 2077, and that 2077 is based on how "tomorrowland" looked in the 50s. Think of how Alien looked in 1979 and what they thought the future would look like. It wasn't "what if the 1970s had a space ship and an alien attacked it was what 1979 thought a space ship would look like. Think of what we think the future might look like now based on movies or shows we make. One thing FO3 carried over well from what I remember was the art deco look a lot of buildings in 1 and 2 had. That being less of a style in Vegas since, well it's Vegas.
I still love Fallout 3 as it introduced me to the franchise and I've been a fan ever since. Fallout 3 is still a great game despite its inconsistencies and flaws imo. Looking at it as a fan game is a interesting way to look at it and honestly makes sense. Great video.
Fallout 3 to me is more like a theme park than a singular cohesive world.
Dude. Northgate mall has all but died. It was a jolt to my system seeing Northgate in this. That was MY mall growing up.
Same. I worked at many stores there, old stomping grounds for certain.
Fallout 3 was groundbreaking for me personally but I absolutely love new Vegas and still play it to this day
I remember when I first saw this game on that Xbox show with that girl that gave tips. Something about shooting a guy in the face to get his shot gun and I knew I had to have it....I still haven’t done that now that I think of it....
Well it introduced a whole new generation to Fallout, which I am part of, that wouldn't otherwise have probably ever known about the series. So it's definitely a game that has paid it's dividends to the growing Fallout community. Which is a hell of a more than you can say about Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.
Played 3 first....can't go back to it after 1, 2 and New Vegas.
I liked that faction that appeared in Tactics, The Reavers, a ravaged cyberpunk faction that rivals with the BOS, why no one has revisited? Is a very interesting faction.
In honesty. I agree. i see issues all over Fallout 3.
Though besides lore and bugs, lack of RPG, and so forth, we ultimately all gave Bethesda a wright off for being their first-ever Consol-able game. so it was seen to have some limitations.
We all understood. their 'Fan-made' Fallout is also what kinda ruined the series going forward. Fallout 3 was the revival of the Fallout series and Bethesda didnt know how it would go, especially with all the cutbacks on things i have stated from above... So, why didnt Bethesda just call it something like Fallout: Capital. or Fallout: Revival. something that would not hold that 'official' Fallout title until they where comfortable?
If Fallout: Capital did well. then what is Fallout 4 today could have been Fallout 3, and doing this im sure Bethesda would have doubled down to make it the best 'Official' Fallout they could have made it... rather then being the barrel of Nuclear Sludge eating at its own container, that it is.
Fallout 3 was not only my first fallout game but it was my first game, I love fallout 3!
great vid man I've never played fallout 1 and 2 probably because I grew up after Bethesda acquired the fallout franchise and I played fallout 3 when I turned 10 years old and I was so damn impressed I mean I loved it than I played fallout New Vegas and in that moment I stopped playing every other game for 4 years never player another but after fallout 76 I began to play others like ELDERSCROLLS and MineCraft.
Back before Fallout 4 came out, I loved Vegas more than 3 and still really liked 3, while everyone bashed vegas and praised 3 like holy god. Now its the opposite, fans praise vegas and shit on 3.
Given the time differences between the games, it's easy enough to explain away discrepancies between them in terms of the status quo. Decades can make quite the difference.
Its so weird seeing all of the old school Fallout fans come out of the woodwork when they seemingly didn't exist before. Not saying that's a bad thing, just an interesting observation. In any case, hate of Fallout 76, hate Fallout 4, hate Fallout 3, fine. I understand a beloved series getting appropriated by a company that doesn't understand it. Its fine to have such opinions if you have been fans of the classic games.
But the odd turn around on anything Bethesda has ever made, even going so far as to tear apart well established classics they made from scratch is simply way too much. Bethesda has always had their problems, bugs, some half baked ideas. But acting like they failed at everything they ever made, including the Elder Scrolls series (with games like Oblivion and Morrowind) was completely awful because 76 was awful is a completely backpedaling circlejerk.
Its almost like I have to preface every time I mention I loved Oblivion "yes I know the bugs", "yes the characters are ugly", "Morrowinds was more unique and cool and...."whatever. Oblivion had great quests, fun game play and exploration, am I supposed to pretend I hated playing it because hating all things Bethesda is in vogue now?
Its like with the new Star Wars movies. I really didn't like them. But do I now hate all Disney Star Wars products, including the really good Mandalorian, or hate all original Disney movies like Little Mermaid and Hercules that have nothing to do with Star Wars because Disney as a company now is pretty shitty? As with all things, it isn't black and white. Bethesda is not the devil incarnate as a company, and they actually have done good things before, and a really bad game like 76 doesn't invalidate all of the good games they made prior.
And one last thing, unlike Star Wars and Disney, Fallout may literally have died as a franchise without Bethesda, no one would be talking about it to nearly the same extent, and Obsidian would never had a chance to make New Vegas. It was Bethesda that gave them the stepping stone, the engine and the hype from Fallout 3 that elevated New Vegas to a level that Black Isles original Fallout 3 would never have reached. Maybe some of the classic game purists would have preferred Fallout be a niche and obscure fandom, and even preferred New Vegas never been made, and I really cannot respond to that, considering I'm not a classic fan, so its not my place, but whatever.