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I can't help but think he's playing dumb for views though. I'd been away for like 3 years and picked up the new mechanics pretty fast. Forsen was a really good player once, right? It was funny to watch him play Draka with all those coins in hand though.
Forsen's reactions are the exact same whenever I watch anything of this game. I stopped playing after whatever came after The Old Gods and now watching this video, I have no idea what the hell is happening anymore. So I fully understand his reaction completely.
Yah I had stopped a long time ago but I started playing again during the previous expansion (sunken city), I caught up with the current playable cards and now it's fine. It's not that crazy once you play the game a bit but at first it's definitely something x)
@@christopherIF Trading, lifesteal, Colossuses, etc are all totally new shit that can REALLY throw you off if you dont know whats going on. Not to mention all the cards that do random weird shit like swapping your opponent's cards, destroying cards in your opponent's deck, or disguising you as another class.
The "How Does It Work?" Segment: It's spaghetti from a number of checks that individually make sense: Enemy has 2 1-health minions, CD gets cast twice: 1st cast: Kill both minions, 5+5 damage goes face 2nd cast: No minions preset (they died), no bolts fire, no damage goes face. Enemy has a 3 health, 3 health, and 7 health minion: 1st cast: Kill minion A+B (3+3=6 gets added to the "excess damage" counter, then goes face for 6), minion C takes 6. 2nd cast: 1 minion present @ 1 health, so 5 damage gets added to the "excess damage" counter, goes face for "Excess Counter" which is now 6+5 = 11. Total 17 damage (6 + 11) Enemy has 6 2-health minions: 1st cast: ABC die, 4+4+4=12 adds to the counter, goes face for 12. 2nd cast: DEF die, 4+4+4=12 more gets added to the counter, (12+12) goes face. Takeaway for abuse: in order for the excess damage for the 1st cast to be applied a 2nd time, a minion needs to survive the 1st cast. IF THAT HAPPENS: Then add the excess damage from the 1st cast to the 2nd, and re-apply to face. WHY THIS MAKES SENSE: 1. If minion deaths weren't processed between casts, then you could potentially target (up to 3) 0-health minions for the 2nd cast, causing 18 to go face which would be blatantly overpowered. 2. If minion deaths are processed between casts, then having no minions on board should rightly cause the spell to do nothing. 3. Someone was lazy about how "excess damage" gets totaled over the life of the spell / didn't think about double casts. EASY FIX: Set "excess damage" counter for the spell to 0 immediately after dealing the damage to face.
Forsen is a lot more bearded than I remember him. His reaction to the power creep is extremely relatable. His misplay reaction was perfect though. 20 mana of mage spells NOT killing the enemy though, thats insane RNG, holy cow. for Thijs though, thats normal.
So that collateral damage card is staking the excess damage from the first volley onto the damage of the 2nd after it volleys? Its basically spell damage times 2. Also congrats on the 600 I've been here since early 100's, always great to see a new video.
Standard Hearthstone seems like such a joke now. Mana seems meaningless, you can be one shot from 50 HP with a 2 card combo and there seems to now be 2 deck archetypes instead of 8.
Тролден как всегда демонстрирует лучшие примеры того, почему эта игра не стоит вашего времени) Скучаю по тому себе, когда мне было весело смотреть эти нарезки. Претензия не к сломаным комбо, а к примеру 21:16, это так несправедливо..
"it feels really satisfying when you get it" yeah but it probably doesn't feel good getting OS turn 5. even without draka, he still had both location giving him 2 28/28, which you can't realy do anything against.
reinstalled the game yesterday, played 3 games, lost 3 games to 40+ dmg denathrius out of hand with no board on opponent side, uninstalled again. See you next expansion.
18:36 & 19:50 & 20:45 is why I haven't played Hearthstone for years. I truly get Forsens reaction to Hearthstone these days. Everything is ridiculous, everything is overpowered to shit, you can't play around anything or plan for anything, because everything is random and nothing is balanced - it's just pure chaos. Fun to watch, will never play again.
That's actually true. Unless you play decks like pirates, everything else is either 1-turn combos or extremely RNG based. Hearthstone is only fun if you don't care about winning and are just playing to kill some time. It's great for casual play, terrible for competitive.
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It's hilarious to see the return of Forsen only to see all these new mechanics that appeared whilst they were gone.
I can't help but think he's playing dumb for views though. I'd been away for like 3 years and picked up the new mechanics pretty fast. Forsen was a really good player once, right? It was funny to watch him play Draka with all those coins in hand though.
Whilst he was gone*
Forsen coming to grips with modern Hearthstone was incredible.
Forsen is a he.
@@Cookiedible you are cringe
Forsen's reactions are the exact same whenever I watch anything of this game. I stopped playing after whatever came after The Old Gods and now watching this video, I have no idea what the hell is happening anymore. So I fully understand his reaction completely.
Cards are literally the same as before, but do have better stats, or a specific class
Yah I had stopped a long time ago but I started playing again during the previous expansion (sunken city), I caught up with the current playable cards and now it's fine. It's not that crazy once you play the game a bit but at first it's definitely something x)
@@christopherIF Trading, lifesteal, Colossuses, etc are all totally new shit that can REALLY throw you off if you dont know whats going on. Not to mention all the cards that do random weird shit like swapping your opponent's cards, destroying cards in your opponent's deck, or disguising you as another class.
@@EbonMaster lifetsteal came out in 2017 lmao
Old Gods was my last expansion too, I only came back for the ocasional adventures and free content.
9:08 RNG King Krush will always be the most satisfying thing to watch.
The "How Does It Work?" Segment:
It's spaghetti from a number of checks that individually make sense:
Enemy has 2 1-health minions, CD gets cast twice:
1st cast: Kill both minions, 5+5 damage goes face
2nd cast: No minions preset (they died), no bolts fire, no damage goes face.
Enemy has a 3 health, 3 health, and 7 health minion:
1st cast: Kill minion A+B (3+3=6 gets added to the "excess damage" counter, then goes face for 6), minion C takes 6.
2nd cast: 1 minion present @ 1 health, so 5 damage gets added to the "excess damage" counter, goes face for "Excess Counter" which is now 6+5 = 11.
Total 17 damage (6 + 11)
Enemy has 6 2-health minions:
1st cast: ABC die, 4+4+4=12 adds to the counter, goes face for 12.
2nd cast: DEF die, 4+4+4=12 more gets added to the counter, (12+12) goes face.
Takeaway for abuse:
in order for the excess damage for the 1st cast to be applied a 2nd time, a minion needs to survive the 1st cast.
IF THAT HAPPENS:
Then add the excess damage from the 1st cast to the 2nd, and re-apply to face.
WHY THIS MAKES SENSE:
1. If minion deaths weren't processed between casts, then you could potentially target (up to 3) 0-health minions for the 2nd cast, causing 18 to go face which would be blatantly overpowered.
2. If minion deaths are processed between casts, then having no minions on board should rightly cause the spell to do nothing.
3. Someone was lazy about how "excess damage" gets totaled over the life of the spell / didn't think about double casts.
EASY FIX:
Set "excess damage" counter for the spell to 0 immediately after dealing the damage to face.
Why does this paper have so little likes?
And this bug was fixed a few weeks ago
@@bird3713 I haven't actually *played* hearthstone in years, so I didn't know. 🙂
Forsen : "back in my days we had elven archer "
Me :"well back in my days we had epic sax guy when it was gadgetzan auctioneer time"
i'm feeling old now, thanks
There's always should be a Thijs' clip in the end, that's the base
A steadfast constant in these trying times
Eto baza
The legend returned when it was needed.
It's finally here. Congratulations in your 600th Video! I'm hoping you can get to 1000 one day!
Thank you! Hope to see you there
@@HearthTrolden do we gonna get new skin at 1000 video? :P
If you ever say "It's finally here" I'm banning you for being a bot
@@blahthebiste7924 ROFL, PTSD kicking in me too.
@@blahthebiste7924 it's finally here ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html
6:15 that's exactly how I feel when I see things now in hearthstone...
Congrats on the 600! It's wild how long you've been making these; And how consistent the great quality has been
No it's standard
that pyroblast to own face hahaha im dead
12:30 Merci pour ce beau clip français
That Jurassic park theme though hahaha. Praise RNJesus
Watching this I start to miss the times when the strongest play you could do was a 4/5 Yeti on turn 1.
"it's actually ridiculous how good I am" he says, after taking chat's strat.
Congratulations with the jubilee!
That play by Dog is pure bliss
Congrats on 600! One of the best episodes recently for sure.
it's good to see Rarran featured in Trolden
1:10 I am a simple Italian, I hear "porco dio", I press like.
Wake up babe, new Trolden episode dropped
Трольден как Карлсон - все таки вернулся! Мы скучали!
Been a while buddy i got scared a lil bit good to see you back
Глазам не верится, спасибо что вернулся!!!
Damn the old faces bring back memories
the world is so clean that Trolden released a video
Трольден так долго выходил, что Келя уже понерфить успели.
‘You are a wizard Harry’ - RIP Hagrid
Congratulations on the 600th episodes..I've been watching you for years!! Thanks for the contents as always.
Wow haven't watched this channel in a while, glad to see you're still chugging.
Haven’t laughed that hard in a long time as I did to that bonus clip the bot saying cruhhh kills me
Yaay you are back :)
This game changed completely
Congratulations on reaching 600!
Thanks for your work!
Fun and interactive, as always.
Ну наконец-то выпустил видосик
5:51 Когда старик зашел на молодежную вечеринку и не понимает, что происходит=)
MatteoHS, sempre mitico
It was a good one, mr.Trolden, it was a good one!
25:28 Well done creetin
С возвращением, мой сладенький пирожочек
"We're matching you against a fair opponent."
I felt that one, Thijis.
Great to see you again man! I thought you had quietly quit the channel..
20:09
I felt that.
amazing and congratz on 600!
What a meta... 3 cards doing all.
THE KING IS BACK!
Sa faisais longtemps 😁
Hi Trolden! I dont play hearthstone anymore..but i miss you!
Хартстоун может меняться и тасоваться, но что-то остаётся вечным.
Например реакция на Круша х)
The king is back
Forsen is a lot more bearded than I remember him. His reaction to the power creep is extremely relatable.
His misplay reaction was perfect though.
20 mana of mage spells NOT killing the enemy though, thats insane RNG, holy cow. for Thijs though, thats normal.
Will we ever see epic Sax guy clip again? They were the reason I started watching these videos in first place. I miss them...😔
О боже, я ждал нового выпуска целую вечность! Трольден, пожалуйста, выпускай свои видео почаще =)
Trolden is back Pog
FINALLY
Batata do Tadeu apareceu 🥔🥔🥔
This episode was so satisfying
forsenLevel
Ah, yeah... Battlecry shaman. *Flashback poping up*
Awesome clips, man.
Ого. Долго тебя не было. Я уже и забыл про тебя. Удачи тебе там
So that collateral damage card is staking the excess damage from the first volley onto the damage of the 2nd after it volleys? Its basically spell damage times 2. Also congrats on the 600 I've been here since early 100's, always great to see a new video.
It's fixed now. It was a bug
600 FU&$ING YEAH
Theotar is one of my favorite cards. So good against filthy combo decks
Standard Hearthstone seems like such a joke now.
Mana seems meaningless, you can be one shot from 50 HP with a 2 card combo and there seems to now be 2 deck archetypes instead of 8.
Não creio q a batata Tadeu apareceu aqui
1:09 trolden asking for a ban
Shhh, fa più ridere se mettono le bestemmie senza saperlo
Я думал ты умер. Рад что ты вернулся.
AHAHAH MATTEO HS AHAHAH
Matteohs uno di noi
F O R S E N B O Y S
400 more vids and we get a new trolden skin
Ths
For
Alll!
Я не видел видео уже 10000 лет!
gratz on 600
я думал тут будут хайлайты с бг. трльден неужели ты еще живой)
Goes absent for a long time, he comes back with V E N G E A N C E with half an hour-long video, refuses to elaborate, leaves for another 2 months.
Ну ластовая действительно годная)
16:46 what's the point of helper extension, if you're not going to look it?
Тролден как всегда демонстрирует лучшие примеры того, почему эта игра не стоит вашего времени) Скучаю по тому себе, когда мне было весело смотреть эти нарезки. Претензия не к сломаным комбо, а к примеру 21:16, это так несправедливо..
За 7+ лет игры можно уже научиться не кастовать заклинание в момент анимации атаки
@@MultiMrSomething , справедливо, извини тогда. Что-то я правда не подумал
Ep. 600 PogU
25:50 🤖
21:20 How is it after all this time they STILL haven't fixed that?
"it feels really satisfying when you get it" yeah but it probably doesn't feel good getting OS turn 5. even without draka, he still had both location giving him 2 28/28, which you can't realy do anything against.
congratulation！！！
reinstalled the game yesterday, played 3 games, lost 3 games to 40+ dmg denathrius out of hand with no board on opponent side, uninstalled again. See you next expansion.
Level 47 golden Rouge?? 14:23
21:23 KKKKK
18:36 & 19:50 & 20:45
is why I haven't played Hearthstone for years. I truly get Forsens reaction to Hearthstone these days. Everything is ridiculous, everything is overpowered to shit, you can't play around anything or plan for anything, because everything is random and nothing is balanced - it's just pure chaos. Fun to watch, will never play again.
That's actually true. Unless you play decks like pirates, everything else is either 1-turn combos or extremely RNG based. Hearthstone is only fun if you don't care about winning and are just playing to kill some time. It's great for casual play, terrible for competitive.
It took 2 months for THIS ? It was good while it lasted, I wish you all the luck on the rest of your journey.
clefairy* generation 1 :)
Kripp plays standard again? I stopped watching bc I’m not too into BGs but if he’s back to salty ladder I’m all in for that
Оно живое!
As much as I am happy to see another Trolden video. I can't help but feel how dumb a state constructed is from personally experience and these clips.
Who's gonna tell him no one's impressed by Bran/Denathrius combos anymore?
long time no see
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