X-Plane pop outs with Air Manager

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @rbarlow
    @rbarlow 4 роки тому +2

    Great explanation Tony. I don’t know that you mention to untick the “click through” checkbox while ticking “locked” and “always on top” after having things properly positioned because there is a performance penalty when clicked through is enabled.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому +1

      Russ Barlow You are right Russ. I tend to have it enabled on panels with transparency because at one time it was required to get transparency to function correctly. I’ll go through them and un-tick all those not requiring the click through.

  • @DownTheRabbit-Hole
    @DownTheRabbit-Hole 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks very much for videos Tony. You answered a question I had on Sim Inn forum. Thanks for that as well. The mouse focus issue with AM and XP running on same machine was a non-starter and a hastle because it stopped keyboard shortcuts from working without moving mouse to change focus back to XP from Touchscreen. You obviously know what I am talking about but I would like to let other people know this is a fantastic improvement in AM Desktop 3.7 BETA 32. No more misfires on keyboard shortcuts, mouse focus changing etc Woohoo.
    I am assuming most of you guys, Russ Barlow, Michael Brown, others, run AM on second machine with second copy of XP. Well, I have tried many different single machine configurations and I just can't get rid of jutters when I run anything AM on 4th monitor touchscreen, even just one panel with flaps only image. I run 3 Dell G-sync monitors 1440p QHD smoothly, smoothest it has ever been. The QHD res is beautiful. Much better than HD. When I introduce 4th monitor touchscreen, I get jutters. I have even tried Duet and a iPad pro as 4th monitor. Same jutters. I am positive it is 4th mon because I can toggle them on and off and jutter problem disappears. I use Dual liquid cooled Corsair One i160 i9 9900, and 2080ti.
    I use AFL 172sp for instruction. Do you have a complete AFL radio stack with, Audio Panel, etc? There are some generics that sort of work but I would like the complete functional stack. If not, I am planning on creating the complete stack including GNS 430 if it is possible. (having a problem with AFL 430 and AM BTW).
    And lastly, I am having a bit of an issue with Vukcan and AM, at least I did with AM 3.6. There is a small problem with AM not recognizing an Asus HD touchscreen size properly. Sees it at 2400 x 1350 for some reason. It does not seem to recognize changes in Windows Display Settings resolution sizes. Very bizarre behavior. Anyways it causes huge jerky jutters (not necessarily stutters) at 2400x1350 and this almost caused me to give up on AM on one machine. I will let Sim Inn know of the issue. I think it is a priority issue, Might scare someone away from AM if it causes jutters. I will post video if necessary. Perhaps they already know of issue. Vulcan and AM are both BETA so some issues are expected.
    Well, the mouse focus issue is fixed with AM 3.7 beta, but single machine, 4 monitor, AM jutter problem persists.
    Yourself, Russ Barlow, and Michael Brown are a great help! Thanks to all!

  • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
    @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому +1

    Not quite. Xplane will remember the size and location of each of the different pop outs so that bit works ok. What is the problem is when you jump in a different aircraft and require the pop out to be in a different position. I’ve already asked Laminar Research for a per aircraft persistence feature or datarefs so we can control the size and position of every pop out from an Air Manager script. It would be useful for everyone who wants this feature to log a request with LR. The more people that want something the more likely it will happen.

  • @DrewFlyer
    @DrewFlyer 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Tony, thanks for the great video! I’ve got one question, you mentioned that the panel machine should be the master if you are networking computers for Xplane, why would you make the less powerful machine the master?

  • @relativenormality
    @relativenormality 4 роки тому +1

    Great Video - thanks for making this very clear. Just for clarity - you have to do this every time you fly - no-one in the community has come up with a way to automate this yet so you can easily switch between Air Manager panels and popups already popped out from X-Plane and in the right place?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому

      Xplane remembers where you left the popouts so that’s already there. What’s needed is for it to remember the popout position per aircraft.

  • @DanBeauleArt
    @DanBeauleArt 4 роки тому +2

    Good video and thx. I solved this issue using spacedesk. Virtual networked monitor. Using only 1 copy of xplane. Usong it for yhe garmin 530/430/trans/ap stack. Using the air manager overlay. Works well. :)

  • @gaigesmith9674
    @gaigesmith9674 5 місяців тому +1

    Anyone know where to get more panels?

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 4 роки тому +1

    lovely video

  • @stricklandgarageaviation2864
    @stricklandgarageaviation2864 2 роки тому

    This is a great video, however, I'm having a problem getting the white bar to stay when I hit the upper right icon. And , how do you get the transparency to work?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому

      Never had an issue with the white bar so not sure on that. For more detail on transparency watch the MSFS pop video. The panel creation with transparent sections in that video applies equally to any sim.

  • @rdwevans
    @rdwevans 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Tony Thanks for video . very helpful. Couple of questions: I see you frame rate as around 80-90: Could you state the set up specs of your PC? Secondly , is the STEC55 available in Air Manager ?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому +1

      This was running on my development machine but the specs are nothing special really. I think that was also a vulkan build of Xplane so the frames will be higher. My STEC is not available in Air Manager.

    • @rdwevans
      @rdwevans 3 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics I fly the Robin DR401 155CDI and wondered if you are selling / sharing the Panel you have built for the Robin? It looks fab. The aircraft I fly has a G500 / GTN750 & whilst the GTN is available through XPReality , and works well , the G500 is not available. Hence would be great to run the Air Manager panel you have built and can also use the GTN750 separately and hence will be very close to the real A/c using 2 X touch panel screens.
      Any way let me know , and if not available any advice on how to create would be welcome

  • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
    @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому

    The popped out avionics needs to be on the master machine. It’s an Xplane thing. It doesn’t matter that the master is not the best spec. What matters is that the best spec is assigned to outside views.

  • @LucasGonzalezA
    @LucasGonzalezA Рік тому

    So, you're saying it's possible to use the G1000 pop-outs on a second computer that is using a second copy of x-Plane?

  • @KenJames9911
    @KenJames9911 11 місяців тому +1

    Question: Who in their right mind would run any Game/Simulator on two separate computers??

  • @damiens666s
    @damiens666s 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanation thank you. Is there any chance to share P2006 G1000 panels? Couldn't find them in Air Manager library.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому

      The panels are meant to be coming to the store soon. I was hoping for them to be released for 3.7 but alas that didn’t happen. Hopefully they will be out soon..

    • @damiens666s
      @damiens666s 4 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics That's a great news. Can't wait. Could you update a video how does it look like and work??

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому

      Sure. Watch out for it.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому

      I’m afraid to say they are not going to be in the Sim Innovations store as they had a change of heart. If anyone really wants to see them there they need to convince Sim Innovations it’s worthwhile.

    • @johnmheaton
      @johnmheaton 4 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics I'm new to the AM world and I'm trying to understand why Sim Innovations would make that choice. Does that mean there isn't going to be any way to share your work?

  • @jetsimmer
    @jetsimmer 3 роки тому

    Does it require a USB Type-C Display Output Port to get the "Touch" Function to work? My laptop only has a "Mini DisplayPort" and a "HDMI" Output for display output.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому

      Most desktop touch monitors require one connection for the video (HDMI, DP, etc) and a USB connection for the touch.

  • @Glasairman
    @Glasairman 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. I have RealSimgear GNS530 and if I lay the popout from (B85)m the Air Manager panel shows a transparent hole where the GNS530 is. Any way around this?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому

      Yes create a different panel background image that has the transparent section filled in or create a simple instrument with a plain image and use it to cover the hole.

  • @StefBelgium
    @StefBelgium 2 роки тому

    Undocking means you lose half of your fps? When I do so, my fps are half what they were before undocking the G1000. How can I preveny this to happen? It s related to xp11 running as windowed rather than full screen.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому

      That’s a computer hardware and Xplane performance related thing and a question for one of the Xplane forums.

    • @StefBelgium
      @StefBelgium 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics I was indorectly asking if that was only me or if this happens to everyone. So I guess it s everyone now. I did not know that up to beginning of the week before I bought Air Manager.

  • @johnpanik7511
    @johnpanik7511 4 роки тому

    Gonna go try this now

  • @DrTom1946
    @DrTom1946 4 роки тому

    Thank you. Can you help out? I’m thinking of building my grandson a 42 inch wide by about 14 inch high aircraft instrument panel that will start off using Cessna 172 components along with steam gauges and then later Ron transition to more advanced displays like the G1 thousand but since this instrument panel will only be running side-by-side 22“ x 14“ monitors will I be able to use air manager to customize an insert the X plane or Microsoft 2020 instruments to fully import the Cessna 172 cockpit instrument panel components using their manager and how far down individually can these be plucked out of the X plane Cessna 172 display and landed on the two displays that will comprise the entire podcast? Any help appreciated.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому +1

      It’s not 100% clear what you want. Almost all of your questions can be answered by playing with the sim and Air Manager. Only a select few instruments can be popped out from the sim. The majority will be Air Manager instruments that get data from the sim.

    • @DrTom1946
      @DrTom1946 4 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics thank you for your reply. Appreciate it.

  • @steveb9822
    @steveb9822 Рік тому

    HI Tony, I have watched this video and your other on msfs numerous times and still cannot get a pop out to work in XP 12. I created a blank panel and used the Garmin 1000 overlay. I pop out the G1000 and move to to one of my touch monitors and overlay the entire instrument over the overlay as you do in your video using Air Manager 4. I then lock the panel and no matter what I do the popped out instrument disappears. What ends of happening is that X plane displays the g1000 as a pop up outside of Air Manager. I must be missing a step to have Air Manager lock in the pop out. Any guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  Рік тому

      Did you watch the MSFS video that has some extra detail about creating the overlay and what all the settings in AM do. From your description it sounds like you don’t have a transparent cutout in your panel.

    • @steveb9822
      @steveb9822 Рік тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics Thanks Tony. I will review that video again. Watching your X Plane video I don't recall that discussion which could very well be my problem. So just placing the overlay in the panel is just a first step then. More work is required before placing the pop out. Appreciate the quick response.

    • @steveb9822
      @steveb9822 Рік тому

      Tony, on my last try I use a blank panel with the g1000 overlay and when I show it in AM I can see the desktop behind it. However when I move the g1000 pop in to the touchscreen monitor it doesn't stick. By that I mean I click an area of the AM manager screen the g1000 disappears. When I click in the middle as you do in your video it does not reappear. When I hit show I get the bezel with the large transparent area. I can alt tab and get it back but is not integrating with AM. What I do end up accomplishing is that XP now uses the touchscreen monitor for the g1000 pop in outside of AM. I put it back and keep trying with the same results. I have layout selected with colors transparent. Any guidance is appreciated. I even tried your method of a custom I age with a transparent section. Same result even though the transparency was in effect.

    • @steveb9822
      @steveb9822 Рік тому

      Tony, here is a video showing what I did. I believe I have the transparent cutout as required. drive.google.com/file/d/1wTJBKuVgIW7mxXDlER2ZyFeDnT9E3aUO/view?usp=drivesdk

    • @steveb9822
      @steveb9822 Рік тому

      Tony, I finally got this working. My problem was that I didn't understand that you place the pop out in the panel as it is running. I was trying to place it in the overlay before it was running. All good now.

  • @SimPilotRick
    @SimPilotRick Місяць тому

    but can you use a g1000 on another plane? Like a Cessna 152?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  Місяць тому

      Not a popout one No. The aircraft needs to have the display in the virtual cockpit for it to be popped out.

  • @focusedfrog
    @focusedfrog 2 роки тому

    hello, thanks for the video info. very helpful. I am stuck though as to how to actually see the gps screen. I have my panel with the gns430 on it, also radio stack to the left. I have this panel open and the 430 overlays on the AM GNS430. click panel and it goes to the back so white top bar is gone...but so is the gns screen? How do I keep the actual sreen showing?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Eric. I assume you have just a black screen correct? It could be a few things so let’s start by establishing the basic state. Is the aircraft powered? is the avionics master on? Is the individual gns unit turned on via the volume/on/off knob?

    • @focusedfrog
      @focusedfrog 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics thanks for super quick reply.
      Yes indeed the screen in the GNS is black.
      Aircraft is on, avionics master is on, I can see the gps map in it when I drag it over to the other screen with the Air Manager panel open.

    • @focusedfrog
      @focusedfrog 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics So not sure I explained too well lol. So I have the AM Panel open and it has the black screen. XPlane is running, plane running, GNS430 on and can see the map. I click it to open to the screen, drag it over to the other screen where the AM panel is and it is positioned over the AM GNS. All good to there, I then click on the panel and the map disappears and am left with the GNS with black middle? hope that makes sense.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому +1

      @@focusedfrog I think I understand., Before you even need to concern yourself with the Xplane popout you need to get the AM panel GNS to show your desktop through the area where the display will be. Hopefully you have the desktop set to something other than black so you can tell when it’s showing through. You did not confirm if the gns is itself is turned like I asked my last reply. Check this and if all good I suspect you have not got your panel settings correct. Is this a paid panel or one of your own?

    • @focusedfrog
      @focusedfrog 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics ok so the AM GNS Is certainly the issue as the map portion is not showing the desktop background? yes indeed the gns is powered on as I can see the map, up until the time I click the panel then it goes behind the AM panel.
      I have a full screen grey panel made in AM with the Radio stack and GNS. However the panel is set to solid so this can be the issue.
      So perhaps I have to set my desktop to grey, and make the panel transparent? Thanks

  • @GEEVEK
    @GEEVEK 4 роки тому

    Hi Tony, I am still having trouble trying to work on G1000 panels PFD and MFD for DA62. Maybe I am not doing it correctly. I have 2 monitor setup.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому

      What exactly is your trouble?

    • @GEEVEK
      @GEEVEK 4 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics I am trying to use Cirrus SF 50 G1000 to use as pop up on DA62 G1000 or trying to clone the panel to work with DA62 . and trying to work out how to create a panel. i am not good at working with computers

  • @avproductions5184
    @avproductions5184 2 роки тому

    So. How can I get my hands on that panel you made with the center panel? lol

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому +1

      I used a couple of panels in this video. These are my own designs. The DR401 panel will have to wait a while to be released but the Tecnam panel should be coming to the SI store soon.

    • @avproductions5184
      @avproductions5184 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics looking forward to it! Does your side comm panel with the backup display button actually work?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  2 роки тому +1

      @@avproductions5184 I think you mean the GMA1347. Yes it works for the functions supported by the sim.

  • @pgreenx
    @pgreenx 3 роки тому

    Can you do this with MSFS?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, the principal is exactly the same for MSFS. See my C172 G1000 video for an example of what you can do.

  • @richardtrask7055
    @richardtrask7055 4 роки тому

    How do you put a g1000 on it's own monitor? is there a separate bezel?

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  4 роки тому

      You pop it out from Xplane and drag it to the monitor of choice. You can grab the edges to resize. If you want control via Air Manager you will need to create a panel with just the G1000 overlay and then have it run full size on the same monitor as the G1000 pop out.

    • @stephenalberts6873
      @stephenalberts6873 3 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics Hi, I'd very much like to do this, creating a custom G1000 MFD (for the Hotstart TBM 900) for full size use on a separate monitor. I'm using the already available G1000 PFD in Air Manager's panel for the PFD on a separate monitor, but would like to create or make the MFD for the TBM 900 for use in Air Manager for it's own monitor. Your guidance and advice in doing would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому +1

      You can pop out the MFD in the same way. The G1000 bezel is just setup to direct its commands for MFD rather than PFD1.

    • @stephenalberts6873
      @stephenalberts6873 3 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalSimAvionics Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. What I need is basically just the bottom section of the PFD/MFD, the section or part containing the 12 soft key buttons, I do not need the L, R & TOP sections of the G1000 PFD/MFD bezel. I'm using a 15" touch screen for the MFD, and the particular MFD I need as overlay is only the bottom part with the 12 buttons. I'm having zero luck in building this bottom section for use in AM.

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  3 роки тому +1

      @@stephenalberts6873 That’s quite straightforward. Clone the existing bezel then use a graphics app to blank out all the un needed controls and you are done.

  • @keithholt2745
    @keithholt2745 Рік тому

    How about an explanation as to how you made the AirManager cutout transparent? You start from a default condition that is not the same as how AirManager panels are configured. Your video does not help explain how to make the popped out instrument appear behind the AirManager screen. When I start the AirManager Panel the inside of the Garmin 530 is solid black. There is no way to see anything placed behind this window. This seems like a pretty glaring oversight if this is intended to be a tutorial. Need to start from step 1, not step 7….

    • @ExperimentalSimAvionics
      @ExperimentalSimAvionics  Рік тому

      This video is not about graphics creation it’s about popping out a display from the. sim and interfacing with a pre prepared AM panel. As long as you know how to do that after watching the video it served it’s purpose. This particular video was done long ago before MSFS 2020 was a thing and since then I have done another one based around that sim. It covers the concepts of creating and using your own panel background with transparency and what each of the related AM settings do. Although I use MSFS in that video it equally applies to Xplane. ua-cam.com/video/vkcjiBTdtQM/v-deo.html