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Why not use a small electric motor (like those used in toy RC cars) to spin that globe of yours? Even better I think you could do a collab with one of those Lego building channels and use Lego electric motor with a gearbox to spin that globe..
I can only see one thing that's wrong in this video The concord did fly at that altitude It went up to 70000 feet when it traveled at mack 2 But this is just nitpicking 😂😂😂sorry Great video and if you can get it get the camera just a bit more stable than those pesky flerfs will have nothing on you Just saying 🇳🇴
I thought you'll use a phone camera. They have wide angle macro lenses, some very close to their edge, so could be nice for this purpose. And then just rotate the globe. Anyways, I enjoy your videos, We are all being educated even if we are not flat earthers :)
The Earth is so enormous that you could fit the entire population of humanity in the space of New York City, and have room to spare, if everyone stood side by side. Our world feels so small in the modern day because flights allow us to travel distances in hours that used to take weeks to months. People died trying to travel across country now considered "fly-over" states. We are very, very small compared to the size of the Earth.
@@mreggs3731 Obviously, but the dog that is being referenced here is male. Did you have an actual point? Further, does it really matter if one were to refer to all dogs as male? Female? The referenced dogs certainly couldn't care less.
@@mreggs3731The comment is written correctly. ”He” is the default pronoun in English. Although animals are classically referred to as “It.”
I'm Australian but we lived in the UK for a few years when our son was between 5 and 9 years old. I had a map of Australia on the wall with family locations marked on it. And on the map I'd glued a pic of the UK to the same scale - much much much smaller. One day a friend was there, asked about where on the map we'd lived etc, then he asked why I had the UK there. 'To show Sam how big Australia is' I said. But why have you got the UK so small?' he asked. 'Because that's what size it is.' My friend looked at me in total disbelief, as if I was lying to a friend. Many people have no idea of scale when they spend their lives in their own little valley.
Yes! When I tried to put a map of the Netherlands on Australia, I couldn't find maps at the same scale and I was so confused until I realised that the whole of the Netherlands was my local area in Australia. Local area meaning I knew all of the towns within the distance you could drive in half a day!
@@MalcolmSnelgrove Even Tasmania is 1.6 times larger than the Netherlands. My wife and I visited the island some years ago for a holiday. I was surprised to experience the distances we had to travel from one place to the next. Looking at the grand map of Australia, Tasmania seems to be small, but it isn't.
A friend of mine once asked me why we don't have train lines in the USA. I told him that we do have coast-to-coast train lines, but it takes three days to cross the country by rail. Driving is even worse, taking four or five full days to go coast-to-coast. This is why the USA relies heavily on air travel.
I love this so much! I remember the first time I visited England, which is only part of the UK. I realized the entire country was smaller than the state I live in, but ten times the population.
@@davidkaminski615 Kind of wrong, the us don't use passenger trains because the have not made it efficient for passengers, just for cargo. Check out: not just bikes
My favorite is when flat Earther's see a full globe image and say "Where are all the satellites; the Earth is supposedly shrouded by 10,000 satellites." My response to that would be: "Where are all the cars? Would you expect to see the billion or so cars from there?" Although considering their lack of understanding on the subject, it wouldn't surprise me if they answer "Yeah...where are the cars?"
This is a psychological issue. Their minds will not allow them to accept the truth. There are fantastical stories created around this theory as well, reinforcing the delusion. Very sad.
Yep. There are MANY women out there that flat earthers because they met via a dating site. Flat Earth IQs aren’t the only thing that are much much much tinier than Flerfs think. They also have tiny tiny tiny itty bitty little crotch rockets. 😂
Once you come to realize how thin our atmosphere is, then it boggles the mind to think about just how little water there is on our planet. While something like 70% of the surface is covered with water, it's a really thin layer. (I think NASA has an image somewhere that shows how small a globe all the water on the planet would form in relation to the size of the earth).
Yep, how little water, _and_ how much. Jerry Pournelle's novels tell of ships using several cubic miles of water for propulsion mass. That's a lot ... until you do the math.
Fun fact,if we flatened our earth to a perfect ball, aka evened out all elevations and canyons, above and below the waters, we'd end up with a ball,covered by an only 4m (about 12ft) deep ocean. Enough for all of us to drown. But actually not that deep
@@ethribin4188 That doesn't sound right. The oceans cover 71% of Earth's surface with an *average* depth of 3682m. The other 29% have an "average ocean depth" of 0m. After leveling out the lithosphere so that the oceans cover the entire Earth the new average depth would be the weighted average between the two, ie. (71*3682m+29*0m)/100 or about 2614m.
There is more water beneath the crust of the Earth than in all of the oceans combined. For how frightening the deep ocean is for many, it's but a puddle.
@@blahfasel2000 That doesn’t sound right. I’d think that most of the land isn’t at sea level, so the average ocean depth of a mountain for instance would be negative, not zero.
This is just guess as someone majoring in social psychology, I think the reason why people underestimate the scale of the earth is largely due to how they are taught the size of the Earth. When I was in school, earth was always shown in comparison to other planets and just how small our planet is compared to most other planets, the sun, and other stuff in space. We are rarely taught that the planet is big, but that we are small in comparison to everything else. I believe this gives a sense that our planet is small and many don’t step back to recognize that Earth is still a planet and still extremely large as fuck.
Well personally I grew to be surprised at how small it was lol. Especially since I was luckily able to travel so much even though we were poor. Europeans btw have it so easy with traveling. I'm envious
@@tetrasphere8165well yeah but but just traveling through Europe is like doing a road trip in Russia, Canada, us or China, Europe is kinda small afterall...
@@Natsukashii1111 Yes, but many european countries also have very strong passports, meaning they dont need visa to travel all around the globe. I think Germany got the "best" travel passport in the world (or so I heard)
Thing is,Earth is indeed small on cosmic scale,but that is because everything else is just way too large.Like our Sun contains 99% of matter in our solar system,everything else,planets,moons,asteroids is just less than 1%.
Nice video. Putting the depth of oceans into context seems to change flat earthers favorite argument: "Have you ever seen water cling to a ball?" into "Have you ever touched a wet spherical object?"
That entire argument is idiotic to begin with, because holding a ball relative to earth allows earth’s gravity to pull the water off of the ball. That doesn’t at all prove their moron theory that the earth is flat. It just proves earth has much stronger gravity than a ball you can hold.
@@thetowndrunk988 you could prove it with condensation technically, although I think it would be more due to surface tension than gravity... But it goes to show that gravity is comparably weak to other forces in our universe and requires that much mass to have a tangible effect
@@thetowndrunk988and then there's the fact that the ball is still wet after a point (mostly surface tension, but still. A thin film of water does in fact stick to the ball.)
@@V3RTIGO222Yeah, but they don't even care about the technical "invisible" details, so it shouldn't matter if it's gravity or surface tension holding the water. As long as they're seeing with their eyes, then it must be that water can be around balls after all.
I remember reading something a few decades ago to the effect that if you take a cold, shiny metal ball the size of an apple to represent the Earth, and breathe on it - the condensation will be thicker than the seas and the atmosphere put together.
@@GlobeisahoaxxYou keep clinging to this idea that Australia is "down." But it's only "down" if you're looking at the solar system at a specific angle. As I've tried to explain to you in a different comment thread, our everyday perception of "down" is relative to the surface of the Earth. I.e. on Earth, down means towards the center of the sphere.
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” - Douglas Adams
A trip through the Total Perspective Vortex will put things right, although you won't survive it with your mind intact when you see your own insignificance compared to the universe 😉
Ah youre poking their superiority complex that they are very important to their universe, that the idea that we are all mere specks of dust on this planet is incomprehensible to them, it hurts their feelings.
What drives me nuts is it can be both. We are specks of dust but, as Sagan brilliantly put it, we are a way for the universe to know itself. We are important to the universe, but we also are specks of dust in the greater cosmos. Their need for it to be something even more than that makes absolutely no sense.
@@retiredbore378that's a bizarre assertion given that the book of Job exists and is canon in the foundational scripture of "the west". Sure, those that don't want to read will miss it, but humans knowing how small they are in comparison to all of existence is well known since the most ancient times. It's only as advancement and modernity had granted us safety through technological development did we grow so haughty.
They don't have to pretend. They won't watch anything that might cause them to question what they want to believe. It's weird, though, that they can't see that this fact in itself demonstrates how little confidence they have in what they claim to believe.
There's a reason diagrams in textbooks come with the fineprint: "Not To Scale" But this is par for the course of Flat Earthers. They don't like reading the fineprint
Seems they don't read ANY print. They buy P1000s, take random pictures and rant incoherently on the internet. And this is what they have been doing, more or less, for years.
@@aceventura5398 You are another example of a Flerf not understanding models. Dumb Flerf: "It small model so I not understand, make it big!! Duh... !". 🤓🤡
To be fair, I also thought America was just down the road and then across the bridge from Luxembourg when my parents told me our neighbours went on holidays over the "big pond". But then again, I was 4 years old.
My aunt used to live in Washington (west coast of the US) and at the time, spoke to someone who lived over in the UK. At the prospect of coming to visit her, he made a comment about simply "being able to drive over" (since he would naturally end up arriving near the east coast of the US if he traveled here) not realizing just how much bigger the US is compared to the UK. Sometimes those kinds of mistakes in understanding scale follow you into adulthood lol.
No, no, no. Amerika is a small village about an hour's drive from where I live in Germany. (Weird thing is: I've never been in that village, only to the Big One across the pond.)
the question is, why are Fiji (3 hour flight), Singapore (6 hour flight), America (est 12 hour flight), and Germany (18 hours flying/airporting) all 'over the pond', or 'across the pond'? Surely australia is a small stone in a lake, not an island in a pond?
You can go on a road trip from Perth in Western Australia, drive for 32 hours and still be in Western Australia. Try it, you'll start to appreciate the size of things.
If you tried that in New Zealand, you can't drive in the same direction for even 24 hours without running out of land to drive on, no matter where you start and which direction you travel in. Start from the Northern-most point in the country, count the ferry crossing to the South Island, and the crossing to Stewart Island, and get to the Southernmost end of that island, and you'll be sitting pretty close to 24 hours, and that's counting 2 ferries which travel notably slower than your average driving speed. And people try and argue our countries aren't that different in size. USA isn't that different from Australia in size.
One thing Aussies and Americans share: Nobody who doesn't live in one of these countries understands the size. Well, maybe Chinese people do, but that's a whole new can of worms. That said, there's a big difference: So much of Australia is undeveloped wildlands. In the US, probably the longest you can go without running into another town (on a major road) is somewhere like Nevada or Texas, where you can go maybe an hour or two without hitting a place to piss and/or eat. As I went between California and Utah, I'd stop at the closest point around an hour away, because the next town might be too long for my bladder to hold up. Often this would be an hour and a half, and sometimes it'd only be 20 minutes, but generally between two settlements, Nevada going east to west or west to east, you're looking at an hour in between even smaller towns. From Reno, NV to West Wendover, NV, it's 396 miles or 637 kilometers. Either way, an easy 5 and a half hour drive non-stop. Realistically, it's about 7 hours from one side of the state to the other. From my hometown to the last place I lived in Utah, which is much further than the first place I lived there, it's 712 miles or 1145 kilometers. AKA, ten and a half hours. Real trip usually took from 12-14 hours, depending on how many stops and how long I hung around to gamble. That's travel from one state to two states over. Cali, through Nevada, to Utah. But what about intrastate travel? From where I live, which is quite north, but not exactly the northernmost point in California, down to San Diego, which is practically Tiajuana in comparison, it's nearly 9 hours straight down. From Glasgow to Plymouth is only 7 and a half hours. You're passing through 3 countries in that trip. The same time it takes to travel from one part of a state to nearly the end of it. For a sense of scale, it takes roughly as long to travel between Amsterdam and Budapest as it does from my hometown to Utah. Again, that's three states, while the trip in Europe that takes just as long takes you through 5 COUNTRIES. Netherlands, Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, then Hungary. Yes, it's 13 hours instead of 12, and realistically, you're probably looking at closer to 24 with stopovers and sleeping because you're breaking 12 hours in real travel time. So basically, we have a shared problem. Our countries are huge and we don't really have time to go exploring other countries. We have enough shit to explore at home. I lived in Utah for 4 years and never had the time and money simultaneously to go visit Bryce Canyon or Zion National Forest. Two places I regret never going to.
Here's another one to put into scale how huge the Earth is. It takes me 12 hours to drive from my home in west Texas to visit my relatives in southern California at the coast line. Granted, that time includes rest stops and lunch breaks, but my odometer records about 750 miles one way. That's less than 1/25 of the circumference of the Earth..,which took 12 hours to drive.
I'm sure that FE will point out that the ISS views do not represent reality as you do not see the names strewn across the landscape, as shown in your globe model. Any straw at this point.
That is indeed the exact level of thought you get from them. Consider e.g. the horde posting nonsense to Anthony Powell's Frozen South videos (which I heartily recommend).
Humour and satire is really the only way to deal with people who want to be ignorant on purpose. Debate, facts and scientific analysis is pointless. They ignore all that so we should take them by their nature not their words.
@@tonib5899I think most of them suffer from what are effectively paranoid/psychotic delusions. They devote all of their cognitive processes to supporting and rationalising those delusions, and none to determining the truth. They will not process any evidence or reasoning given to them, but I don't think they are conscious of that.
The first time I ever took a commercial flight, I looked out the window and realized that the entire human race why nothing but a very thin film on the surface of the Earth. You really brought that home with your scale of the actual depth of the atmosphere. Well done.
I work in laparoscopic medical devices. If you visit any surgical hospital, they will probably have a variety of cameras and scopes that would work perfectly for this. Of course, you'd have to ask them to use their very expensive calibrated surgical equipment for your little project, but if it's a teaching hospital, they'll probably have some much less valuable NFHU (Not For Human Use) versions laying around in a classroom. The scopes are designed to work from infinity right down to zero distance from a subject (they're actually microscopes) and you can get them with angled views of 10°, 30°, 45°, and 70°. Since the most common ones are only 5 mm in diameter, that should make your setup pretty easy. They even carry their own illumination by fiber, but you probably wouldn't want that in this case.
Flat Earthers say that the Earth is flat, but they don't talk much about the other dimensions of the Earth. How much is the diameter or thickness of the Earth, or what shape is the disk in general: is it round, square or maybe gingerbread shaped?
That's because htey can't agree if it's rectangle flat or circle flat or if there's an ice wall or if there's land beyond the ice wall or if the ice wall goes on infinitely (which is stupid) or if there's hole in the north pole that the sunlight comes through from a 'black sun' and reflects off the 'real' sun or something or any of the literally hundreds of other things. Is gravity the result of electromagnetism? Buoyancy? Density? (none of them, but they also can't agree there)
They can't even agree on that! there are groups of flerfs who all have different ideas of not only the shape, but the map, and even the whole firmament and south pole thing... also the way the sun and moon move around in the sky and their distance in the sky is explained differently by a lot of them....
@@jaimevivesp Funny thing is, that's not what they have. It looks flatter than it is, but still doesn't look flat; what they have is "I refuse to believe anyone might be standing in another direction than me." Their idea of what flat would look like is a confused mess, e.g. as Dave explained previously, left-right curvature of the horizon isn't in conflict with the disc idea. They just can't imagine real geometry so keep producing inconsistent assumptions.
They've realised that if they do propose a definite model, there is always some piece of actual evidence that proves it wrong. That's why most of them fall back on "We don't know what shape/size/diameter the earth is, we just _know_ it's flat".
@@chriswarr641which is generally possible, if they’re not off the deep end, yet. And that’s exactly the PSA aspect of videos like these; fight the disinformation and dry up the supply of lost souls to this conspiratorial “it’s about the shape of the earth but not really” grift. Bad faith actors and zealots will always exist; it’s the “normal” people legitimizing these, who are the issue.
I do always find it funny that there is a better flat earth argument but flat earthers are unable to use it because it requires them to admit being wrong.
My favorite fact about scaling the earth down is if you scale it down to a cue ball, that scaled down version of earth would be smoother than the average cue ball.
I saw an illustration once that explained if a steel ball bearing (which looks very smooth to the naked eye) was increased to the size of the earth, it's surface would be many times rougher than the Earth. It's all a matter of perspective.
Earth at the size of a billiard ball would be smoother than billiard balls. If you held it in your hand it would feel perfectly smooth. Earth at the size of a basketball, the atmosphere would be less than the depth of the silicone coating on the outside of the ball. This stuff is important for climate change too, because people perceive the sky as endless, not understanding that we really can put enough gas from under the ground into the atmosphere to change it. We've only increased the amount of the gas that most determines why we don't freeze to death at night by 0.01% of the atmosphere, but that's enough to increase the amount of that gas by a third.
@@gordon1545 I think @TheScienceAsylum has a video titled, _If the Earth was small, could you feel detail?_ and they seemed to indicate that you likely could due to how we feel things. But they might have used a slightly bigger scale Earth.
I love how they demand photos of things leaning backwards in the distance because of Earth curve. The longest distance photo is 275 miles. The object, even at that distance, is 'leaning back' by just 4°.
it always gets me to see the distance between the earth and the moon. like "ain't no way that's real, surely its closer than that", but nope. it really is that far away.
people dont realize, while the moon looks huge in the sky, it only about the size of an american dime held out at arms length, and something that looks to be only that size is 1/4 the entire size of the earth
It looks like it's right there when I look at it in the night sky, but I have to remind myself it's literally a quarter of a million miles away. Awe inspiring, and scary at the same time.
The earth is incomprehensibly tiny, on the scale of the galaxy let alone the universe. It's just also ridiculously large compared to us. They just can't understand how utterly small, limited, and insignificant their perspective is on the grand scale of reality.
@@ribbles1699 It's why they make their god impotent instead of omnipotent. Instead of a possibly infinite universe of unimaginable age, they consider their god only possibly of making a terrarium of less than ten thousand years.
@@Tsudiconever mind the fact that, despite being omnipotent,...5G blocks your ability to pray to him. And vaccines do it too. And satellites, which might be anti-prayer-anti-blessing balloons to some of them.
@@Tsudico I've tried that reasoning on them - "a universe that is vast beyond imagining and billions of years old would make your god _more_ impressive, not less." They're too afraid of burning in hell to consider it.
As much as I have always understood these scales, I haven't ever really visualised it for myself So this was quite handy just as a nice demonstration of that. Thank you! ^^
Thank you Dave! The ISS viewpoint modeling was such a clever innovation! You and your pup are some of the nicer people on UA-cam... clear and knowledgeable explanations without snark, profanity, or name-calling. Well done!
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 "Look more..." And very quickly notice that nobody in the flat earth circus can agree on anything, provide a working definitive map and model, or an explanation for the 'conspiracy' to hide the flat earth. Troll harder child.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I've looked far enough to know of a few experiments that flerfers did that proved the earth is round. The flerfers decided it was inconclusive, bless their little hearts!! Its like watching a child learn to walk!!
Thank you Dave! I've been sharing the heck out of your videos lately with the flat earthers. Keep up the good work and keep educating us, it's appreciated! 👍
Making it a hiking trail sounds like a great idea! Our Sweden Solar System model is rather too big for that, though you could visit the inner planets reasonably quickly.
That final point actually reminded me of a "blue blooder" in biology class. I don't know if he was being facies, but he would spend plenty of time derailing the conversation to point out the simple diagrams of the circulatory system proves your blood turns blue as it loses oxygen, and turns red again once it's oxygenated. He even got to the point of saying computer renders and CGI models were proof enough, because how else would they know what to model? He was arguing with a Cardiothoracic surgeon, mind. Probably one of the most trained people on what blood does in the body. But then again, the kid had a reputation of telling a Hawaiian teacher what Hawaii was like because he went there for two weeks in Grade X.
They cannot even _demonstrate_ flat. How many times do people have to demand even a map? Most now refuse to accept the Gleesons as it's use has been demonstrated to be so wrong about everything but time zones. Then there are the requests for a photograph...
Yeah, everything is a theory until proven by sufficient evidence, the Globe Earth has mountains of evidence supporting it, the Flat Earth has at best "just trust me bro"
The inability to grasp very large scales is terrible. It can lead one to stupid places like not understanding evolution, not realizing the Earth is round, denying climate change, and misunderstanding how immunology and vaccines interact.
They fail to understand scale, Thing A relative to Thing B (see conservation of momentum and inertial reference frames), 3D thinking, and how to have more than one thought at a time.
I’ve had them argue about how they flew to another hemisphere, and the route they took was circular, and therefore the earth had to be a flat circle……..I’m like no, you idiot, it’s because the earth is a sphere, and there is also the fact that extended twin engine operations over the ocean require airports within a certain distance…….
Most conspiracy theorists don’t. There are people who deny the existence of jet fuel - they think jet engines just use compressed air. They often post pictures of (usually scaled up Lmao) fuel trucks sitting on the wings, not realizing that multiple different shapes can have the exact same volume
I once was at a lake in norway and there was no wind whatsoever the lake was completely mirror no waves nothing. I put my head down and then stood up the horizon shifted from about 300 meters to about 1.5 kms it was quite interesting to see
@@John.0z Although TBF we'd have room for them if they came back down. But who knows how mutated they might be and how bad that might be for the organisms down below?
@@raindrop4308common sense doesn't equal truth. The moon being made of cheese could be common sense. (Yes it's a Wallace and Grommit refference) If you bird brains believed the moon is made of cheese, it becomes common knowledge. This is why you accepted Transgenderism. Stupidity became common knowledge. You know what else was common sense? Lead paint. Smoking wasn't unhealthy. Stop believing in lies and treating anyone that doesn't follow trends as an outcast. You all are about inclusion. But really you all are about exclusion.
@@wiktorchm Sooo... you think this entire video was fake...? I mean, you could just do the math yourself. Oh wait, you don't even know middle school grade math. Sorry!
The depths of the oceans and the heights of the mountains when scaled to the size of the earth overall makes the planet more smooth than a regulation billards ball.
Magnets are great, as good as magic to them - an unseen force. Laymen don't know how they work, so you can pretty much make up any old mystic-sounding crap involving them. There are plenty of UFO believers who think that a rotating magnetic field can be used to make an aeroplane disappear, because - why not? Santos has his "hyperbolic toroidal magnetic field" which does whatever he says it does. You can pretty much combine magnets with anything else people have little idea about and make any claim you want. And if you (or they) suffer from delusions, you (or they) will believe it.
As could be seen in yesterday's live debate, a portion of them thinks electrostatics = magnetism = -gravity- what makes things fall down. Unaware that water or lead are repelled by magnets, while iron is attracted to them.
I've been binge-watching your videos, and this one had more information, and more fascinating information than any of the others I've watched so far. I love how you are so clear in your explanations, and use props to help us understand. (I'm not a flat earther, but your videos do so much more teaching than just debunking that idea.)
The efforts Dave goes through to scientifically prove everything he does is just jaw dropping. He is, in my book, the Supreme Flat Earth Debunker. Also amazing is that he dismantles flat-earth without ever attacking the people who believe this trash.
Yes I appreciate that too. I mean I enjoy watching people like MC Toon but constant belittling and name calling is, I feel, counter productive. It's just taking sides and throwing rocks - entertainingly. Reaching out and demonstrating why and how, like Dave does, is going to do more to tip people who are genuinely confused by flerffy thinking back into the real world.
And you know what the best part is: Dave isn't even doing it scientifically -he just uses logic and very basic principles from math, geometrya and physic/optics. Scientists have more important things to do than to shut FLERFs up. So we all thank Dave for doing his job. ❤
flat earthers dont understand what a vacuum is, they hear vacuum and immediately think of a vacuum cleaner, and therefore think space should suck the atmosphere
@@gmansard641 the idea of a pressure gradient also seems to go right over their heads. they claim we're in an enclosed system, and then dont understand that a pressure gradient isnt possible if that was the case
Actually I heard from a geologist that because the earth is not a "perfect" sphere, that somewhere in central south America the height above sea level is only about 4000m but it is further away from the earths centre than the peak of Mt Everest making it the highest place on earth or at least closer to space than the pinnacle of Mt Everest. But, yeah! Your explanation of scale and demonstrations are absolutely sensible realistic and true to the fact we live on a spherical world. God Bless.
@@freefreepalestine360dude if the hundreds of articles, thousands of videos and who knows how many experiments (plus we have pictures of the planet) don't convince you, one guy on the internet isn't going to convince you. You're not worth the time
Has a flat earther ever had video chat, with someone on the opposite side of the earth? Because if they would ever do so, it puts this bs to rest quickly. I live in East Tennessee. If I call my in laws at, let’s say 11pm my time, the sun will be almost fully overhead there. Or, if I call at, say, 11am my time, it will be pitch dark over there. How, exactly, is that possible on a flat earth?
Ohh, simple: see the sun is that lamp with quite unusually direct focus that's spinning overhead and magically becomes invisible if it is on the other side of flat earth. Because it is so big it needs the moon as a counter-weight, that's why you never ever see the moon at day, see...? (Ooops, what's that moon shaped thing out my brightly lit window there? Did something bad happen?) 🤡 Imagine their arguments as a bar of cheap soap and common sense as water. Now it should be easy to see why they always slip out from the grasp of reality. Be careful or you might break your neck while trying to stomp on those "arguments". 😜
I think some have, but they just explain away all the ridiculous things that would have to be true for a flat earth. If they can concoct the "flashlight sun" as a real view of how the sun works, *_anything_* would seem to be possible.
Some time ago I was getting my daugther off a summer camp... Almost 200 Km to get home, and we did a scale model of the solar system on the way back home, Pluto included. At the camp site, 50m sun which she runned around holding a rope, drove some kilometers away to Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. Drawing with a chalk the size of the planets and the moon on the asphalt when we've stopped on the way. She was getting very bored travelling to the gas giants, but I told her the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy quote "Space is big, really big" and she was mind boggled. Yeah we were travelling around 2x faster than light on that scale, that really mind boggled myself also...
good fact, however I don't believe most people understand that geostationary orbit is 88 times higher than LEO (i.e. Low Earth Orbit - where the International Space Station orbits)
One of the problems that flat earthers have regarding the spherical earth's atmosphere is that they don't realise that the atmosphere IS part of the earth. They seem to think that it is something separate that the earth moves through. We've all seem the flat earth memes of people being blasted by ferocious wind as the earth moves at a thousand miles an hour through the atmosphere.
Next time you see it, remember there are Many "Flat Earthers" that know the Earth isn't flat, but Profit from the FE grift. Their main goal is to confuse the issue, misrepresent the point, then compare it to something different to say "look at how Crazy science claims are" dishonestly. That's where the saying "you got to lie to Flerf" comes from. There's No FE evidence, so they have to Lie to keep and gain followers to sell shirts, apps etc to...
The year is 2024, Artificial Intelligence creates ours videos, robots take care of our houses, cars has autopilot, we are less than a decade away from having "Planet of Birth" in our passports and..... There are people who believes the Earth is flat.... Just like in the middle age.... Bruh
Scale is a wonderful thing. I seem to remember Greater Sapien being asked a question of "why do we never see a picture of the solar system to scale?" The answer is simple: the smallest thing a screen can show is one pixel, and if we show earth as just one pixel, then the sun would have to be 11.700 pixels away. A modern 4K UHD screen only is 3800 pixels wide. It gets worse if you want the whole solar system, because that's 287.46bln km in diameter. The sun is 1.4mln km in diameter so if the suns was just one pixel then the edge of the solar system would be 221123 pixels away, or just under 60 UHD 4K screens.
If anyone wants to see the scale of the solar system if the moon were only one pixel, there is a website that does exactly that titled _If the Moon Were Only 1 Pixel_ that I would recommend.
@@Tsudico It's a great website, but even it makes the solar system seem much smaller than it is by being one-dimensional. A more accurate but completely impractical version of the page would not just be enormously wide, but also enormously tall, and the user would be left scrolling around in both directions, hopelessly lost and probably never seeing a planet after leaving Earth.
I remember once watching an old sci-fi movie (via Mystery Science Theater 3000, I think) where it depicted astronauts headed to the moon. Something goes wrong on the way (of course...), and they end up overshooting...to Mars. Yeah, if something like that were to happen (and it wouldn't, because they don't have enough _fuel_ to stop orbiting Earth entirely; the rocket equation is a harsh mistress; you never send more than you actually need), you'd actually end up with a psychological horror film about slow death via suffocation. Once you've escaped Earth, the only thing you'll be seeing in space that you are likely to recognize is the sun.
A link for those who may be interested... ua-cam.com/video/zR3Igc3Rhfg/v-deo.html A practical demonstration of the scale of the solar system in a dry lakebed in Nevada, including the sizes of the palnets all based on a Sun being about 1m diameter
A few years ago a physicist was demonstrating the scale of the solar system in a TV show here in Australia. She had scale models of the sun and all the planets - earth was a marble size. She laid them out on a quite long beach! I am pretty sure she would not have been able to find all of them at the end of the shoot. I really enjoy reading science fiction books. But some of them get the physics and distances so wrong that it is jarring. You just have to put everything you know into a state of suspension; and try to go with the flow of the book. A friend tried to get me to write a book - she is an author herself. The best ideas I could manage were in that genre; but every time I started thinking of a story, I ran into far too many conflicting thoughts. IMHO to be a science fiction author you need to be either tremendously well versed in physics , or totally ignorant of the subject.
I wish sending this to my co-worker that screamed at me because i laughed at him yelling about the earth being flat would make a different. He doesn't believe in gravity either or currents or pretty much anything he can't understand and refuses to learn. I really really enjoyed this video though! It's always mind boggling seeing a to scale distance between the earth and it's moon. And the pin was a great way to show perspective, in all this was fabulous. Thank you so much for creating it. 😊
Flat earthers have never taken a calculus class; they'd learn that just as straight lines well approximate curves in small intervals in two dimensions, flat planes well approximate curved surfaces in small areas in three dimensions. It's the same as if a louse was crawling around a basketball; to the louse the basketball would look flat.
@@5peciesunkn0wn SEEE!!!1!!! Though it would have been funny, but hard for him to do, if he film going south and the camera encountered an ice cube: THE ICE WALL!!
A REALLY good way of getting a good feel for how big the earth is, is the VR version of Google Earth. It gives a perspective that you just can't replicate on a screen.
@@jestes7 it is. I haven't used it for a while now, but for a bit, I was using it to sit on various mountain tops soaking in the scenery while dealing with my emails on a virtual screen. It's great for that. Or visiting somewhere virtually with street-view
Even Google maps gets this across. Just look up your home town/city and compare how big it is compared to your house, then zoom out to the state/county, then the country. At each stage the difference in size is staggering, and that's not even a full continent, there's multiple continents, and combined they don't even make up 1/3rd of Earth's surface. Even for those who deny the size of countries/continents have to admit Earth is massive when they start seeing how tiny everything is to everything else. I don't think any of them argue only their one city/county/state/country exists, and if they do they don't trust maps anyway.
Thank you for breaking that down. I've been trying to tell people about the fact they're not calculating the sizes and heights. The easiest way I could explain it was pointing out how planes only fly about 6-7 miles up, and to picture on a flat landscape, how little away that is, and I try to get them to visualize this. These examples are great. Thanks for working out all these calculations.
@@wiktorchmMy god it’s a wild one. I have a genuine question for you. How can you believe something so commonly understood as an outdated and archaic earth model? What makes earth any different from every other large object? And how would the people hiding the earths true shape even begin to comprehend the enormous logistical issue? They would need to pay every single construction worker, airlines pilot, airline passenger, astronaut, submarine operator, astronomer, and hundreds of other professions to keep the secret, and if even one comes forward with real evidence, the operation is blown. How does that work?
at only 120,000 feet of altitude the atmospheric pressure is down to within 1% of a perfect vacuum. all of the meaningful parts of the atmosphere are well below that.
The imperfections allowed in a brand new billiard ball are more than the variations in earths crust if they were the same scale. The earth appears flat because it is so unbelievably big that you have to be in space before the curve becomes readily apparent. When they say that the sun is only 3,000 miles up then it becomes ridiculous when you put that to scale.
Yep, I loved the beginning of the video when Dave had the Globe in his hand, and the dog was giving a little kick out "hey, I'm more important than the Whole world...".
Flat earthers: Ignoring refraction to refute round earth. Also flat earthers: Explaining why the sun looks like it's setting when it's always above us as being due to refraction.
I model solar eclipses for my students. I have a foam ball that is roughly to scale to one of my globes. In class, it appears that the moon's shadow should almost always hit the Earth. Then we guess how far away the moon is, to scale. 837 feet!
We are talking about people who spent a lifetime failing every exam and feeling mentally inadequate to virtually everyone on the planet. Now, they get to "know" that they're among the elite few who truly know how the world works. Do you honestly expect to compete with that sort of high, armed with nothing but facts and reality?
We are talking about Globers, people who spent a lifetime failing every exam and feeling mentally inadequate to virtually everyone on the Earth. Now, they get to "know" that they're among the elite few who truly know how the world works. Do you honestly expect to compete with that sort of high, armed with nothing but facts and reality?
@wiktorchm Mimicking grownups and playing pretend is a healthy and normal part of human development. It helps one prepare for participation in the grown-up world. Most of us finish with that stage long before we learn to write, but, better late than never, I suppose.
"If you take earth with all of its mountains and deep oceans and shrink it down to the size of a cue ball, it's smoother than any cue ball ever machined" - Neil Degrasse Tyson
Not actually true, roughness of a new cue ball is an average of 1 micron, Earth at the same scale has an average higher than that, to the point that parts would feel like sandpaper- a quick Google will debunk NDT's claim. He makes a lot of claims he seems to not fact check himself
Ever noticed that most flat earthers never seem to have travelled outside the US or the UK?!? I lived in the southern hemisphere for 15 years and flights work exactly like in the north. They exist, they take predictable times and they do not divert through the northern hemisphere. I have sailed north of Iceland in July and south of Cape Horn in December. Both times we got 20+ hours of daylight per day. Had I ever doubted the globe I had in my bedroom as a five-year-old, travel would have proved it to be correct Any time I need 15 minutes of total hilarity, I watch conspiracy toonz, Dave Mck or Simon man Dan on flat Earth. Keep up the good work!
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Why not use a small electric motor (like those used in toy RC cars) to spin that globe of yours?
Even better I think you could do a collab with one of those Lego building channels and use Lego electric motor with a gearbox to spin that globe..
I can only see one thing that's wrong in this video
The concord did fly at that altitude
It went up to 70000 feet when it traveled at mack 2
But this is just nitpicking 😂😂😂sorry
Great video and if you can get it get the camera just a bit more stable than those pesky flerfs will have nothing on you
Just saying 🇳🇴
I thought you'll use a phone camera. They have wide angle macro lenses, some very close to their edge, so could be nice for this purpose. And then just rotate the globe.
Anyways, I enjoy your videos, We are all being educated even if we are not flat earthers :)
And you clearly miss the overall point of the flat earth theory. 😐
Build a foto for the Globe in wood and a motor for a disco ball to rotate it
At this point I’m convinced Dave is making videos to expand his lens collection
lets hope he doesn't get into anatomy!!
If true, I say go for it!
@@ericdavison6186 Why? There is nothing wrong with a good endoscope!
Tax write off!
@@mjjoe76 100% on board, it’s what we call a win/win :D
The Earth is so enormous that you could fit the entire population of humanity in the space of New York City, and have room to spare, if everyone stood side by side.
Our world feels so small in the modern day because flights allow us to travel distances in hours that used to take weeks to months. People died trying to travel across country now considered "fly-over" states.
We are very, very small compared to the size of the Earth.
Your momma wouldn't fit in New York City by herself, let alone side by side with all of humanity.
When you get ready to do this experiment, let me know. I want to secure the Port-o-Potty contract!
Just one question... where will everyone park? :)
@@tjjones621New Jersey and they’ll just take the train into the city.
@@billtisch3698 Oh, what a load of crap...😁
What I learned...
1. Earth is relatively big compared to our everyday experiences.
2. If you don't pet a dog, he will pass out.
not every dog is a "he"
@@mreggs3731you care about a dog's genitals that much?
@@mreggs3731 Obviously, but the dog that is being referenced here is male. Did you have an actual point? Further, does it really matter if one were to refer to all dogs as male? Female? The referenced dogs certainly couldn't care less.
Rusty begging for pets and being ignored made me sad D:
@@mreggs3731The comment is written correctly. ”He” is the default pronoun in English. Although animals are classically referred to as “It.”
I'm Australian but we lived in the UK for a few years when our son was between 5 and 9 years old. I had a map of Australia on the wall with family locations marked on it. And on the map I'd glued a pic of the UK to the same scale - much much much smaller. One day a friend was there, asked about where on the map we'd lived etc, then he asked why I had the UK there. 'To show Sam how big Australia is' I said. But why have you got the UK so small?' he asked. 'Because that's what size it is.' My friend looked at me in total disbelief, as if I was lying to a friend. Many people have no idea of scale when they spend their lives in their own little valley.
Yes! When I tried to put a map of the Netherlands on Australia, I couldn't find maps at the same scale and I was so confused until I realised that the whole of the Netherlands was my local area in Australia. Local area meaning I knew all of the towns within the distance you could drive in half a day!
@@MalcolmSnelgrove Even Tasmania is 1.6 times larger than the Netherlands. My wife and I visited the island some years ago for a holiday. I was surprised to experience the distances we had to travel from one place to the next. Looking at the grand map of Australia, Tasmania seems to be small, but it isn't.
A friend of mine once asked me why we don't have train lines in the USA. I told him that we do have coast-to-coast train lines, but it takes three days to cross the country by rail. Driving is even worse, taking four or five full days to go coast-to-coast. This is why the USA relies heavily on air travel.
I love this so much! I remember the first time I visited England, which is only part of the UK. I realized the entire country was smaller than the state I live in, but ten times the population.
@@davidkaminski615
Kind of wrong, the us don't use passenger trains because the have not made it efficient for passengers, just for cargo. Check out: not just bikes
My favorite is when flat Earther's see a full globe image and say "Where are all the satellites; the Earth is supposedly shrouded by 10,000 satellites." My response to that would be: "Where are all the cars? Would you expect to see the billion or so cars from there?"
Although considering their lack of understanding on the subject, it wouldn't surprise me if they answer "Yeah...where are the cars?"
And where is the evergreen ?
It’s like arguing for it being ok to lick a toilet seat by saying “where is all the bacteria?”
Cars aren't real. My uncle told me, and he watches only the best UA-cam videos all day.
we can see cars, can you see satellites? :)
This is a psychological issue. Their minds will not allow them to accept the truth. There are fantastical stories created around this theory as well, reinforcing the delusion. Very sad.
The reason they underestimate the size of the Earth, is because they dramatically overestimate their intelligence.
Eminem should take notes from you
Yep. There are MANY women out there that flat earthers because they met via a dating site. Flat Earth IQs aren’t the only thing that are much much much tinier than Flerfs think. They also have tiny tiny tiny itty bitty little crotch rockets. 😂
On point!
Dunning Kruger effect at work.
That's funny ...😂
Once you come to realize how thin our atmosphere is, then it boggles the mind to think about just how little water there is on our planet. While something like 70% of the surface is covered with water, it's a really thin layer. (I think NASA has an image somewhere that shows how small a globe all the water on the planet would form in relation to the size of the earth).
Yep, how little water, _and_ how much. Jerry Pournelle's novels tell of ships using several cubic miles of water for propulsion mass. That's a lot ... until you do the math.
Fun fact,if we flatened our earth to a perfect ball, aka evened out all elevations and canyons, above and below the waters, we'd end up with a ball,covered by an only 4m (about 12ft) deep ocean.
Enough for all of us to drown.
But actually not that deep
@@ethribin4188 That doesn't sound right. The oceans cover 71% of Earth's surface with an *average* depth of 3682m. The other 29% have an "average ocean depth" of 0m. After leveling out the lithosphere so that the oceans cover the entire Earth the new average depth would be the weighted average between the two, ie. (71*3682m+29*0m)/100 or about 2614m.
There is more water beneath the crust of the Earth than in all of the oceans combined. For how frightening the deep ocean is for many, it's but a puddle.
@@blahfasel2000 That doesn’t sound right. I’d think that most of the land isn’t at sea level, so the average ocean depth of a mountain for instance would be negative, not zero.
Did you know, if you stacked 126,119,040 elephants to the moon, they would all die.
😮
Science bitches, science.
🤯🤯
Prove it. I'm part of the elephant alivers and we believe stacking elephants cannot die.
You believe in the moon, and elephants?
Dad pet me! Dad.. dad pet met! DAD.. PET ME!😂😂 My God that dog is cute.
As intently as it was listening, its bound to be the smartest dog on Earth. Understands it better than the flerfers.
2:09 i love him so much
Also, looks at the globe and instantly thinks 'ball!!! playtime????' 🥰
@darronmoss7520 I half expected him to throw the globe for the dog to chase lol.
I was disappointed that the video cut off just as Rusty was about to kiss him on the lips.
This is just guess as someone majoring in social psychology, I think the reason why people underestimate the scale of the earth is largely due to how they are taught the size of the Earth. When I was in school, earth was always shown in comparison to other planets and just how small our planet is compared to most other planets, the sun, and other stuff in space. We are rarely taught that the planet is big, but that we are small in comparison to everything else. I believe this gives a sense that our planet is small and many don’t step back to recognize that Earth is still a planet and still extremely large as fuck.
Well personally I grew to be surprised at how small it was lol. Especially since I was luckily able to travel so much even though we were poor. Europeans btw have it so easy with traveling. I'm envious
@@tetrasphere8165well yeah but but just traveling through Europe is like doing a road trip in Russia, Canada, us or China, Europe is kinda small afterall...
@@Natsukashii1111 Yes, but many european countries also have very strong passports, meaning they dont need visa to travel all around the globe.
I think Germany got the "best" travel passport in the world (or so I heard)
Tbh I also think its just that the human brain is generally not good with large numbers.
Thing is,Earth is indeed small on cosmic scale,but that is because everything else is just way too large.Like our Sun contains 99% of matter in our solar system,everything else,planets,moons,asteroids is just less than 1%.
Nice video. Putting the depth of oceans into context seems to change flat earthers favorite argument: "Have you ever seen water cling to a ball?" into "Have you ever touched a wet spherical object?"
That entire argument is idiotic to begin with, because holding a ball relative to earth allows earth’s gravity to pull the water off of the ball. That doesn’t at all prove their moron theory that the earth is flat. It just proves earth has much stronger gravity than a ball you can hold.
I touch a wet spherical object everyday! I stand on a globe earth and here in the UK it is always wet!
@@thetowndrunk988 you could prove it with condensation technically, although I think it would be more due to surface tension than gravity... But it goes to show that gravity is comparably weak to other forces in our universe and requires that much mass to have a tangible effect
@@thetowndrunk988and then there's the fact that the ball is still wet after a point (mostly surface tension, but still. A thin film of water does in fact stick to the ball.)
@@V3RTIGO222Yeah, but they don't even care about the technical "invisible" details, so it shouldn't matter if it's gravity or surface tension holding the water. As long as they're seeing with their eyes, then it must be that water can be around balls after all.
I remember reading something a few decades ago to the effect that if you take a cold, shiny metal ball the size of an apple to represent the Earth, and breathe on it - the condensation will be thicker than the seas and the atmosphere put together.
And I remember reading that if you point to the bottom of the ball, you can see Australia upside down
@@Globeisahoaxx I remember reading you claim that the earth is flat, yet you haven't managed to find any proof to show us yet.
@@Globeisahoaxx Australia upside-down.....that tells me all I need to know about your beliefs.
@@rexwilliams7643 what?
@@GlobeisahoaxxYou keep clinging to this idea that Australia is "down." But it's only "down" if you're looking at the solar system at a specific angle. As I've tried to explain to you in a different comment thread, our everyday perception of "down" is relative to the surface of the Earth. I.e. on Earth, down means towards the center of the sphere.
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”
- Douglas Adams
A trip through the Total Perspective Vortex will put things right, although you won't survive it with your mind intact when you see your own insignificance compared to the universe 😉
It's not even comparable to the salt on the peanuts
Ahhhh ☺️🥲 that was just the comment I was looking for! RIP D.A.
"Prey that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space because there's bugger all down here on earth!" - Monty Python
@@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid unless, of course, you are Zaphod Beeblebrox.
Ah youre poking their superiority complex that they are very important to their universe, that the idea that we are all mere specks of dust on this planet is incomprehensible to them, it hurts their feelings.
What drives me nuts is it can be both. We are specks of dust but, as Sagan brilliantly put it, we are a way for the universe to know itself. We are important to the universe, but we also are specks of dust in the greater cosmos. Their need for it to be something even more than that makes absolutely no sense.
GOOD!
Still god damn they should learn to deal with their existential crisis like the rest of us
That's definitely part of it, but I think most of them are just stupid.
@@retiredbore378that's a bizarre assertion given that the book of Job exists and is canon in the foundational scripture of "the west". Sure, those that don't want to read will miss it, but humans knowing how small they are in comparison to all of existence is well known since the most ancient times. It's only as advancement and modernity had granted us safety through technological development did we grow so haughty.
Sadly, the people who NEED to see this will run away from it.
not at all fool
@@Atheist66644 So you're an exception to the rule. Whoop De Doo.
Globers really have no common sense@@ReValveiT_01
Dave: *Makes this video*
Flat earther: I'll pretend I didn't see that
They don't have to pretend. They won't watch anything that might cause them to question what they want to believe. It's weird, though, that they can't see that this fact in itself demonstrates how little confidence they have in what they claim to believe.
More like they hear numbers and their brain shuts down
Or: "oh, that's been debunked!" 🤣
If you took all the people on earth and laid them head to toe around the equator, a lot of them would drown.
That’s just science folks. Accept it.
If a human baby is born underwater, it can live the rest of its life underwater.
Omg 💀 @@stephenolan5539
@@stephenolan5539that's dark 😂
Funnily, everyone can live the rest of their lives underwater, born underwater or otherwise 😅
@@stephenolan5539 all 5 minutes of its life.
There's a reason diagrams in textbooks come with the fineprint: "Not To Scale"
But this is par for the course of Flat Earthers. They don't like reading the fineprint
Seems they don't read ANY print. They buy P1000s, take random pictures and rant incoherently on the internet. And this is what they have been doing, more or less, for years.
@@Antares2 They don't even focus their cameras properly.
Do not worry, they will happily cherry pick those words to read "To Scale". 🤣
So put it to scale. Why allow children a false concept of continents. Please don't say it's impossible.
@@aceventura5398 You are another example of a Flerf not understanding models. Dumb Flerf: "It small model so I not understand, make it big!! Duh... !". 🤓🤡
To be fair, I also thought America was just down the road and then across the bridge from Luxembourg when my parents told me our neighbours went on holidays over the "big pond". But then again, I was 4 years old.
My aunt used to live in Washington (west coast of the US) and at the time, spoke to someone who lived over in the UK. At the prospect of coming to visit her, he made a comment about simply "being able to drive over" (since he would naturally end up arriving near the east coast of the US if he traveled here) not realizing just how much bigger the US is compared to the UK. Sometimes those kinds of mistakes in understanding scale follow you into adulthood lol.
@@randomnpc445 Good one. 😁
No, no, no. Amerika is a small village about an hour's drive from where I live in Germany. (Weird thing is: I've never been in that village, only to the Big One across the pond.)
So jealous! Luxembourg is such a beautiful place. I've only visited once but would love to go back!
the question is, why are Fiji (3 hour flight), Singapore (6 hour flight), America (est 12 hour flight), and Germany (18 hours flying/airporting) all 'over the pond', or 'across the pond'? Surely australia is a small stone in a lake, not an island in a pond?
You can go on a road trip from Perth in Western Australia, drive for 32 hours and still be in Western Australia. Try it, you'll start to appreciate the size of things.
If you tried that in New Zealand, you can't drive in the same direction for even 24 hours without running out of land to drive on, no matter where you start and which direction you travel in. Start from the Northern-most point in the country, count the ferry crossing to the South Island, and the crossing to Stewart Island, and get to the Southernmost end of that island, and you'll be sitting pretty close to 24 hours, and that's counting 2 ferries which travel notably slower than your average driving speed. And people try and argue our countries aren't that different in size. USA isn't that different from Australia in size.
We also have a cars like that in the UK!
One thing Aussies and Americans share: Nobody who doesn't live in one of these countries understands the size. Well, maybe Chinese people do, but that's a whole new can of worms. That said, there's a big difference: So much of Australia is undeveloped wildlands. In the US, probably the longest you can go without running into another town (on a major road) is somewhere like Nevada or Texas, where you can go maybe an hour or two without hitting a place to piss and/or eat. As I went between California and Utah, I'd stop at the closest point around an hour away, because the next town might be too long for my bladder to hold up. Often this would be an hour and a half, and sometimes it'd only be 20 minutes, but generally between two settlements, Nevada going east to west or west to east, you're looking at an hour in between even smaller towns. From Reno, NV to West Wendover, NV, it's 396 miles or 637 kilometers. Either way, an easy 5 and a half hour drive non-stop. Realistically, it's about 7 hours from one side of the state to the other. From my hometown to the last place I lived in Utah, which is much further than the first place I lived there, it's 712 miles or 1145 kilometers. AKA, ten and a half hours. Real trip usually took from 12-14 hours, depending on how many stops and how long I hung around to gamble.
That's travel from one state to two states over. Cali, through Nevada, to Utah. But what about intrastate travel? From where I live, which is quite north, but not exactly the northernmost point in California, down to San Diego, which is practically Tiajuana in comparison, it's nearly 9 hours straight down. From Glasgow to Plymouth is only 7 and a half hours. You're passing through 3 countries in that trip. The same time it takes to travel from one part of a state to nearly the end of it.
For a sense of scale, it takes roughly as long to travel between Amsterdam and Budapest as it does from my hometown to Utah. Again, that's three states, while the trip in Europe that takes just as long takes you through 5 COUNTRIES. Netherlands, Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, then Hungary. Yes, it's 13 hours instead of 12, and realistically, you're probably looking at closer to 24 with stopovers and sleeping because you're breaking 12 hours in real travel time.
So basically, we have a shared problem. Our countries are huge and we don't really have time to go exploring other countries. We have enough shit to explore at home. I lived in Utah for 4 years and never had the time and money simultaneously to go visit Bryce Canyon or Zion National Forest. Two places I regret never going to.
@@DragonXero maybe ask for a full novel next time?
Here's another one to put into scale how huge the Earth is. It takes me 12 hours to drive from my home in west Texas to visit my relatives in southern California at the coast line. Granted, that time includes rest stops and lunch breaks, but my odometer records about 750 miles one way. That's less than 1/25 of the circumference of the Earth..,which took 12 hours to drive.
I'm sure that FE will point out that the ISS views do not represent reality as you do not see the names strewn across the landscape, as shown in your globe model.
Any straw at this point.
That is indeed the exact level of thought you get from them. Consider e.g. the horde posting nonsense to Anthony Powell's Frozen South videos (which I heartily recommend).
Sounds about right for their level of understanding and fallacy-fantasy land 'evidence'.
Yep! 😂
Oh yeah i remember I think one of the debunks on this channel where a FE just points to imply the grid( long and lat) are part of the globe.
Thank you flat earthers for the nonstop content
Humour and satire is really the only way to deal with people who want to be ignorant on purpose. Debate, facts and scientific analysis is pointless. They ignore all that so we should take them by their nature not their words.
@@tonib5899I think most of them suffer from what are effectively paranoid/psychotic delusions. They devote all of their cognitive processes to supporting and rationalising those delusions, and none to determining the truth. They will not process any evidence or reasoning given to them, but I don't think they are conscious of that.
@@tonib5899ignorant on what?
The first time I ever took a commercial flight, I looked out the window and realized that the entire human race why nothing but a very thin film on the surface of the Earth. You really brought that home with your scale of the actual depth of the atmosphere. Well done.
I work in laparoscopic medical devices. If you visit any surgical hospital, they will probably have a variety of cameras and scopes that would work perfectly for this. Of course, you'd have to ask them to use their very expensive calibrated surgical equipment for your little project, but if it's a teaching hospital, they'll probably have some much less valuable NFHU (Not For Human Use) versions laying around in a classroom. The scopes are designed to work from infinity right down to zero distance from a subject (they're actually microscopes) and you can get them with angled views of 10°, 30°, 45°, and 70°. Since the most common ones are only 5 mm in diameter, that should make your setup pretty easy. They even carry their own illumination by fiber, but you probably wouldn't want that in this case.
thought the same thing, but about much cheaper technical versions used by e.g. car mechanics to check insides of the cylinders via spark plug hole.
@@AffidavidDonda - Yep, although those are usually "flexies" (fiber optic scopes) so the resolution isn't as good. OTOH they make setup a lot easier!
Flat Earthers say that the Earth is flat, but they don't talk much about the other dimensions of the Earth. How much is the diameter or thickness of the Earth, or what shape is the disk in general: is it round, square or maybe gingerbread shaped?
That's because htey can't agree if it's rectangle flat or circle flat or if there's an ice wall or if there's land beyond the ice wall or if the ice wall goes on infinitely (which is stupid) or if there's hole in the north pole that the sunlight comes through from a 'black sun' and reflects off the 'real' sun or something or any of the literally hundreds of other things. Is gravity the result of electromagnetism? Buoyancy? Density? (none of them, but they also can't agree there)
They can't even agree on that! there are groups of flerfs who all have different ideas of not only the shape, but the map, and even the whole firmament and south pole thing... also the way the sun and moon move around in the sky and their distance in the sky is explained differently by a lot of them....
@@5peciesunkn0wn The only thing they all agree is "looks flat to me!", because that's all they have.
@@jaimevivesp Funny thing is, that's not what they have. It looks flatter than it is, but still doesn't look flat; what they have is "I refuse to believe anyone might be standing in another direction than me."
Their idea of what flat would look like is a confused mess, e.g. as Dave explained previously, left-right curvature of the horizon isn't in conflict with the disc idea. They just can't imagine real geometry so keep producing inconsistent assumptions.
They've realised that if they do propose a definite model, there is always some piece of actual evidence that proves it wrong. That's why most of them fall back on "We don't know what shape/size/diameter the earth is, we just _know_ it's flat".
Of all the flat earth debunk videos I feel that this is the one that could actually change some misguided minds.
the problem is that a flat earther would have to watch this with an open mind, and be willing to admit to themselves that they are wrong.
@@chriswarr641 that may seem unlikely but I believe it’s entirely possible
@@chriswarr641which is generally possible, if they’re not off the deep end, yet. And that’s exactly the PSA aspect of videos like these; fight the disinformation and dry up the supply of lost souls to this conspiratorial “it’s about the shape of the earth but not really” grift. Bad faith actors and zealots will always exist; it’s the “normal” people legitimizing these, who are the issue.
Nice job. The pin really shows the scale well. Saying our atmosphere being a 'thin film' is an excellent way of putting it.
I do always find it funny that there is a better flat earth argument but flat earthers are unable to use it because it requires them to admit being wrong.
What is it, if you don't mind saying?
Funny is this planet of ours,
Big and yet so small,
Just a speck to the universe,
But universe to us all.
This reminds me of a cool bit of trivia:
If you reduced the Earth to the size of a billiards's cue ball, it would be smoother than a cue ball.
My favorite fact about scaling the earth down is if you scale it down to a cue ball, that scaled down version of earth would be smoother than the average cue ball.
Awww Rusty is the sweetest dog. You can tell he loves you so much ❤️
I saw an illustration once that explained if a steel ball bearing (which looks very smooth to the naked eye) was increased to the size of the earth, it's surface would be many times rougher than the Earth. It's all a matter of perspective.
Earth at the size of a billiard ball would be smoother than billiard balls. If you held it in your hand it would feel perfectly smooth.
Earth at the size of a basketball, the atmosphere would be less than the depth of the silicone coating on the outside of the ball.
This stuff is important for climate change too, because people perceive the sky as endless, not understanding that we really can put enough gas from under the ground into the atmosphere to change it. We've only increased the amount of the gas that most determines why we don't freeze to death at night by 0.01% of the atmosphere, but that's enough to increase the amount of that gas by a third.
@gordon1545 you lost me at climate change but I did kill a mouse with a ball bearing before
Surprised you didn't simply stick the globe on the turntable, tip the turntable by 23 degrees and fix the camera.
@chrisglen-smith7662 Then he wouldn't have been able to simulate day and night.
@@gordon1545 I think @TheScienceAsylum has a video titled, _If the Earth was small, could you feel detail?_ and they seemed to indicate that you likely could due to how we feel things. But they might have used a slightly bigger scale Earth.
Rusty! How are you? Are you a good dog? Yesyouareyouaresuchagooddogyouaresuchagooddogandsuchahandsomeboy!!
Oh, and hi Dave. Good work as always.
At least you acknowledged the human. More than I usually manage.
to make that latin-type writing, it would be
YESYOUAREYOUARESUCHAGOODDOGYOUARESUCHAGOODDOGANDSUCHAHANDSOMEBOY
they dont have lowercase or spaces
I love how they demand photos of things leaning backwards in the distance because of Earth curve.
The longest distance photo is 275 miles. The object, even at that distance, is 'leaning back' by just 4°.
it always gets me to see the distance between the earth and the moon. like "ain't no way that's real, surely its closer than that", but nope. it really is that far away.
people dont realize, while the moon looks huge in the sky, it only about the size of an american dime held out at arms length, and something that looks to be only that size is 1/4 the entire size of the earth
It looks like it's right there when I look at it in the night sky, but I have to remind myself it's literally a quarter of a million miles away. Awe inspiring, and scary at the same time.
The earth is incomprehensibly tiny, on the scale of the galaxy let alone the universe. It's just also ridiculously large compared to us. They just can't understand how utterly small, limited, and insignificant their perspective is on the grand scale of reality.
This is their issue. Outside of the snowglobe, they're insignificant, and the universe is too big and too scary.
@@ribbles1699 It's why they make their god impotent instead of omnipotent. Instead of a possibly infinite universe of unimaginable age, they consider their god only possibly of making a terrarium of less than ten thousand years.
@@Tsudiconever mind the fact that, despite being omnipotent,...5G blocks your ability to pray to him. And vaccines do it too. And satellites, which might be anti-prayer-anti-blessing balloons to some of them.
Yes, the earth is not flat. They are flat, because they are so short on the earth.
@@Tsudico I've tried that reasoning on them - "a universe that is vast beyond imagining and billions of years old would make your god _more_ impressive, not less." They're too afraid of burning in hell to consider it.
As much as I have always understood these scales, I haven't ever really visualised it for myself
So this was quite handy just as a nice demonstration of that. Thank you! ^^
Thank you Dave! The ISS viewpoint modeling was such a clever innovation! You and your pup are some of the nicer people on UA-cam... clear and knowledgeable explanations without snark, profanity, or name-calling. Well done!
Dave,
In the creation of this video alone, you’ve done more experimentation than Every Flerf EVER.
Thank you.
Look more
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I stand by my previous.
@@martinbaxter4783 and I say you didn't look far enough
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 "Look more..."
And very quickly notice that nobody in the flat earth circus can agree on anything, provide a working definitive map and model, or an explanation for the 'conspiracy' to hide the flat earth.
Troll harder child.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I've looked far enough to know of a few experiments that flerfers did that proved the earth is round. The flerfers decided it was inconclusive, bless their little hearts!! Its like watching a child learn to walk!!
Thank you Dave! I've been sharing the heck out of your videos lately with the flat earthers. Keep up the good work and keep educating us, it's appreciated! 👍
Unfortunately you can't reason people out of an opinion they didn't reason themselves into. They're in the 1% most stupid people in the world.
If the earth was flat, my cats would’ve pushed everything off the edge by now.
daaang
Brilliant
cats are creatures which will go to extreme lengths in order to destroy all your possessions
Cats are not that smart.
To@dominiccharvet546: You obviously don’t have cats
There is a great 'model' of the solar system in Melbourne, The St. Kilda Solar System Attraction, it's a 5.9 km long trail. From the Sun to Pluto.
One or two in the UK as well. Walked one with some friends just so I could shout out "I can see Uranus."
There's one on the York/Selby cycle path (formerly a railway line) withe planets on small plinths and to scale. Very illustrative.
Didn't know, just looked it up. 139 cm diameter sun, 150 meters to Earth and 5.9 kms to Pluto. Pluto, must have been built before 2006 I guess.
The one I went on was from Otford to Shoreham in the UK. Can post gpx if anyone is interested
Making it a hiking trail sounds like a great idea! Our Sweden Solar System model is rather too big for that, though you could visit the inner planets reasonably quickly.
That final point actually reminded me of a "blue blooder" in biology class. I don't know if he was being facies, but he would spend plenty of time derailing the conversation to point out the simple diagrams of the circulatory system proves your blood turns blue as it loses oxygen, and turns red again once it's oxygenated. He even got to the point of saying computer renders and CGI models were proof enough, because how else would they know what to model?
He was arguing with a Cardiothoracic surgeon, mind. Probably one of the most trained people on what blood does in the body. But then again, the kid had a reputation of telling a Hawaiian teacher what Hawaii was like because he went there for two weeks in Grade X.
The size of the solar system is about the same size as Nathan Oakley's ego, that's how HUUUUGE it is!
Each planet represents one of his brain cells
I'm pretty sure the solar system is not THAT big 😅
It's so big, his head has a scale on it...
@@jmacefire6581Idk, I think you’re overestimating him.
@@oberonpanopticon I said his ego is that big, not his intelligence! lol
I try to remember that if the earth is the size of a pea the sun is 1m across and 118 m away.
"They've been >brilliant< with me..."
Nice double ad there 😉
Use * to make things *bold*
Genuinely love that ur dog puts his paw out everytime you explain something
The reason they try to debunk the globe -= is because they can't prove flat.
They cannot even _demonstrate_ flat. How many times do people have to demand even a map? Most now refuse to accept the Gleesons as it's use has been demonstrated to be so wrong about everything but time zones.
Then there are the requests for a photograph...
Yeah, everything is a theory until proven by sufficient evidence, the Globe Earth has mountains of evidence supporting it, the Flat Earth has at best "just trust me bro"
Yeah, that is why everything is just theory until proven by sufficient evidence. All the Flat Earth has going for it is "just trust me bro"
@@John.0z but when we show the blue speck of dust suspended in a ray of light, they say its fake.
@@John.0z Seriously? Can't demonstrate flat? Just look out the window.
The inability to grasp very large scales is terrible. It can lead one to stupid places like not understanding evolution, not realizing the Earth is round, denying climate change, and misunderstanding how immunology and vaccines interact.
They fail to understand scale, Thing A relative to Thing B (see conservation of momentum and inertial reference frames), 3D thinking, and how to have more than one thought at a time.
Flerfers don't understand scale. That's pretty much all you need to know about them.
So true. They all literally use the globe map that has a single scale and no FE map to even look at.
Nor they don't seem to have any spatial awareness to understand that space isn't 2D flatform.
I’ve had them argue about how they flew to another hemisphere, and the route they took was circular, and therefore the earth had to be a flat circle……..I’m like no, you idiot, it’s because the earth is a sphere, and there is also the fact that extended twin engine operations over the ocean require airports within a certain distance…….
Most conspiracy theorists don’t. There are people who deny the existence of jet fuel - they think jet engines just use compressed air. They often post pictures of (usually scaled up Lmao) fuel trucks sitting on the wings, not realizing that multiple different shapes can have the exact same volume
Do they understand anything at all ….😊
I once was at a lake in norway and there was no wind whatsoever the lake was completely mirror no waves nothing. I put my head down and then stood up the horizon shifted from about 300 meters to about 1.5 kms it was quite interesting to see
I thought i did have a good grasp on the scale of Earth... clearly not. Mind blown. Thank you
If you think you understand the scale of the universe, you don’t understand the scale of the universe
@@oberonpanopticon However, the James Web Telescope certainly got us closer! 🧐
The earth is so big you can fit everything alive on it!
And still have room for big deserts where the life is very scarce.
@@sourisvoleur4854wooah
It is easy to fit every living thing on it because it constantly try to kill them.
Everything that we know to be alive. So far.
Then again, maybe a few bacteria are surviving on some of the spacecraft we have sent up?
@@John.0z Although TBF we'd have room for them if they came back down. But who knows how mutated they might be and how bad that might be for the organisms down below?
It's funny to think that flattered earthers are just people who thought the children's textbooks were to scale
It's funny to think that Globers are just people who thought the children's textbooks were to scale
@@wiktorchm globers? You mean people with common fucking sense hahahahaha
@@raindrop4308common sense doesn't equal truth.
The moon being made of cheese could be common sense. (Yes it's a Wallace and Grommit refference) If you bird brains believed the moon is made of cheese, it becomes common knowledge.
This is why you accepted Transgenderism. Stupidity became common knowledge. You know what else was common sense? Lead paint. Smoking wasn't unhealthy.
Stop believing in lies and treating anyone that doesn't follow trends as an outcast. You all are about inclusion. But really you all are about exclusion.
@@wiktorchm Sooo... you think this entire video was fake...? I mean, you could just do the math yourself. Oh wait, you don't even know middle school grade math. Sorry!
@@wiktorchmit's funny to think that flat earthers are just people who thought they passed kindergarten.
The depths of the oceans and the heights of the mountains when scaled to the size of the earth overall makes the planet more smooth than a regulation billards ball.
Something tells me scale will confuse them, just like perspective.
Just about anything confuses a flat earther.
You thought scale was bad, try explaining 3D to flerfs! 😂😂
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Flat earthers must be baffled by magnets
so true, just like trump. LOL
Magnets are great, as good as magic to them - an unseen force. Laymen don't know how they work, so you can pretty much make up any old mystic-sounding crap involving them. There are plenty of UFO believers who think that a rotating magnetic field can be used to make an aeroplane disappear, because - why not? Santos has his "hyperbolic toroidal magnetic field" which does whatever he says it does. You can pretty much combine magnets with anything else people have little idea about and make any claim you want. And if you (or they) suffer from delusions, you (or they) will believe it.
@@SloverOfTeuth Santos got stuck in the mri machine a few years ago and they couldn't turn it off.
Among an extensive list of other topics.
As could be seen in yesterday's live debate, a portion of them thinks electrostatics = magnetism = -gravity- what makes things fall down. Unaware that water or lead are repelled by magnets, while iron is attracted to them.
I've been binge-watching your videos, and this one had more information, and more fascinating information than any of the others I've watched so far.
I love how you are so clear in your explanations, and use props to help us understand. (I'm not a flat earther, but your videos do so much more teaching than just debunking that idea.)
I love tp see your dog watching you talk with love❤
The efforts Dave goes through to scientifically prove everything he does is just jaw dropping. He is, in my book, the Supreme Flat Earth Debunker. Also amazing is that he dismantles flat-earth without ever attacking the people who believe this trash.
Yes I appreciate that too. I mean I enjoy watching people like MC Toon but constant belittling and name calling is, I feel, counter productive. It's just taking sides and throwing rocks - entertainingly. Reaching out and demonstrating why and how, like Dave does, is going to do more to tip people who are genuinely confused by flerffy thinking back into the real world.
And you know what the best part is: Dave isn't even doing it scientifically -he just uses logic and very basic principles from math, geometrya and physic/optics. Scientists have more important things to do than to shut FLERFs up. So we all thank Dave for doing his job. ❤
*geometry
If you click the three dots to the right of your own posts you can edit them. :) @@fusola9612
One of the best ones I have heard from the Flat Earthers is "if space is a vacuum why doesn't it suck away the earth's atmosphere?
flat earthers dont understand what a vacuum is, they hear vacuum and immediately think of a vacuum cleaner, and therefore think space should suck the atmosphere
I recently explained that vacuum cleaners don't actually suck, that's an illusion. It's the atmosphere outside that's blowing in. Got some bank stares
@@gmansard641 the idea of a pressure gradient also seems to go right over their heads. they claim we're in an enclosed system, and then dont understand that a pressure gradient isnt possible if that was the case
Dang I thought you were just going to have the camera stationary and spin the globe next to it.
You went all out with that contraption.
He wanted to recreate the sunset/sunrise. And that's not possible with a stationary camera.
@@elBartoDR I feel like spinning an LED battery light along with the globe would have been much easier than spinning the heavy camera.
@elBartoDR Well, then he should just rotate the room.
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It is quite scary to see the scale of our atmosphere.
If an orange was the size ofnthe Earth, the peel is thicker than our atmosphere!
Actually I heard from a geologist that because the earth is not a "perfect" sphere, that somewhere in central south America the height above sea level is only about 4000m but it is further away from the earths centre than the peak of Mt Everest making it the highest place on earth or at least closer to space than the pinnacle of Mt Everest. But, yeah! Your explanation of scale and demonstrations are absolutely sensible realistic and true to the fact we live on a spherical world. God Bless.
Oh they KNOW they just choose to deny reality
Please share scientific evidence of your curved curvizon.
for Money!
@@freefreepalestine360why is your name "free Palestine"? They are completely fine. The videos of the war are CGI
@@freefreepalestine360 "maybe if I stick my head DEEPER in this sand..."
@@freefreepalestine360dude if the hundreds of articles, thousands of videos and who knows how many experiments (plus we have pictures of the planet) don't convince you, one guy on the internet isn't going to convince you.
You're not worth the time
Has a flat earther ever had video chat, with someone on the opposite side of the earth? Because if they would ever do so, it puts this bs to rest quickly. I live in East Tennessee. If I call my in laws at, let’s say 11pm my time, the sun will be almost fully overhead there. Or, if I call at, say, 11am my time, it will be pitch dark over there. How, exactly, is that possible on a flat earth?
Ohh, simple: see the sun is that lamp with quite unusually direct focus that's spinning overhead and magically becomes invisible if it is on the other side of flat earth. Because it is so big it needs the moon as a counter-weight, that's why you never ever see the moon at day, see...? (Ooops, what's that moon shaped thing out my brightly lit window there? Did something bad happen?) 🤡
Imagine their arguments as a bar of cheap soap and common sense as water. Now it should be easy to see why they always slip out from the grasp of reality. Be careful or you might break your neck while trying to stomp on those "arguments". 😜
I think some have, but they just explain away all the ridiculous things that would have to be true for a flat earth.
If they can concoct the "flashlight sun" as a real view of how the sun works, *_anything_* would seem to be possible.
Yeah they just assume the sun is a flashlight that rotates around the world like it’s attached to a cog
Some time ago I was getting my daugther off a summer camp... Almost 200 Km to get home, and we did a scale model of the solar system on the way back home, Pluto included. At the camp site, 50m sun which she runned around holding a rope, drove some kilometers away to Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. Drawing with a chalk the size of the planets and the moon on the asphalt when we've stopped on the way. She was getting very bored travelling to the gas giants, but I told her the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy quote "Space is big, really big" and she was mind boggled. Yeah we were travelling around 2x faster than light on that scale, that really mind boggled myself also...
Just adding additional fact here: geostationary satellites would be a little bit less than meter away from this model Earth surface.
good fact, however I don't believe most people understand that geostationary orbit is 88 times higher than LEO (i.e. Low Earth Orbit - where the International Space Station orbits)
So if you see a giant square in the sky durring evening it's just Dave doing experiments
👁️
One of the problems that flat earthers have regarding the spherical earth's atmosphere is that they don't realise that the atmosphere IS part of the earth. They seem to think that it is something separate that the earth moves through. We've all seem the flat earth memes of people being blasted by ferocious wind as the earth moves at a thousand miles an hour through the atmosphere.
Next time you see it, remember there are Many "Flat Earthers" that know the Earth isn't flat, but Profit from the FE grift. Their main goal is to confuse the issue, misrepresent the point, then compare it to something different to say "look at how Crazy science claims are" dishonestly.
That's where the saying "you got to lie to Flerf" comes from. There's No FE evidence, so they have to Lie to keep and gain followers to sell shirts, apps etc to...
Well most of them deny gravity which is what keeps the atmosphere bound to earth so yeah
Same applies to everything else on Earth. The oceans and even us are not just "on" Earth, we are effectively a part of it.
Well said Nathan Evans
Loved your little ISS footage simulation, it was magnificent! Thank you for your effort!
The year is 2024, Artificial Intelligence creates ours videos, robots take care of our houses, cars has autopilot, we are less than a decade away from having "Planet of Birth" in our passports and..... There are people who believes the Earth is flat.... Just like in the middle age.... Bruh
Dog: Less talking, more petting.
Scale is a wonderful thing.
I seem to remember Greater Sapien being asked a question of "why do we never see a picture of the solar system to scale?"
The answer is simple: the smallest thing a screen can show is one pixel, and if we show earth as just one pixel, then the sun would have to be 11.700 pixels away. A modern 4K UHD screen only is 3800 pixels wide.
It gets worse if you want the whole solar system, because that's 287.46bln km in diameter. The sun is 1.4mln km in diameter so if the suns was just one pixel then the edge of the solar system would be 221123 pixels away, or just under 60 UHD 4K screens.
If anyone wants to see the scale of the solar system if the moon were only one pixel, there is a website that does exactly that titled _If the Moon Were Only 1 Pixel_ that I would recommend.
@@Tsudico It's a great website, but even it makes the solar system seem much smaller than it is by being one-dimensional. A more accurate but completely impractical version of the page would not just be enormously wide, but also enormously tall, and the user would be left scrolling around in both directions, hopelessly lost and probably never seeing a planet after leaving Earth.
I remember once watching an old sci-fi movie (via Mystery Science Theater 3000, I think) where it depicted astronauts headed to the moon. Something goes wrong on the way (of course...), and they end up overshooting...to Mars.
Yeah, if something like that were to happen (and it wouldn't, because they don't have enough _fuel_ to stop orbiting Earth entirely; the rocket equation is a harsh mistress; you never send more than you actually need), you'd actually end up with a psychological horror film about slow death via suffocation. Once you've escaped Earth, the only thing you'll be seeing in space that you are likely to recognize is the sun.
A link for those who may be interested...
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A practical demonstration of the scale of the solar system in a dry lakebed in Nevada, including the sizes of the palnets all based on a Sun being about 1m diameter
A few years ago a physicist was demonstrating the scale of the solar system in a TV show here in Australia.
She had scale models of the sun and all the planets - earth was a marble size. She laid them out on a quite long beach!
I am pretty sure she would not have been able to find all of them at the end of the shoot.
I really enjoy reading science fiction books. But some of them get the physics and distances so wrong that it is jarring. You just have to put everything you know into a state of suspension; and try to go with the flow of the book.
A friend tried to get me to write a book - she is an author herself. The best ideas I could manage were in that genre; but every time I started thinking of a story, I ran into far too many conflicting thoughts. IMHO to be a science fiction author you need to be either tremendously well versed in physics , or totally ignorant of the subject.
I wish sending this to my co-worker that screamed at me because i laughed at him yelling about the earth being flat would make a different. He doesn't believe in gravity either or currents or pretty much anything he can't understand and refuses to learn.
I really really enjoyed this video though! It's always mind boggling seeing a to scale distance between the earth and it's moon. And the pin was a great way to show perspective, in all this was fabulous. Thank you so much for creating it. 😊
If that camera suffices, next time just use a model globe that is twice the size of this one. 🙂
1:06 the dog trying to reach for his hand, fuckin adorable
Flat earthers have never taken a calculus class; they'd learn that just as straight lines well approximate curves in small intervals in two dimensions, flat planes well approximate curved surfaces in small areas in three dimensions. It's the same as if a louse was crawling around a basketball; to the louse the basketball would look flat.
They never took any level geometry. One of them outright failed to answer "how many degrees do the inside angles of a triangle add up to".
Doggo is so worried about you talking to yourself 😍
@@The_guy_on_the_internet he's used to it by now 🤣
I love that you’re able to use an accurate and to scale map of the earth for this demonstration, something a flat earther is yet to produce.
Yes, but notice he did not move the camera over Antartica!!11!!
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@@DoctorX101Antarctica doesn't exist, neither does New Zealand or Finland.
@@5peciesunkn0wn SEEE!!!1!!!
Though it would have been funny, but hard for him to do, if he film going south and the camera encountered an ice cube: THE ICE WALL!!
@@DoctorX101 Yesss
The existence of an accurate globe map disproves flat earth on its own (well, with the help of a fairly advanced geometry)
A REALLY good way of getting a good feel for how big the earth is, is the VR version of Google Earth.
It gives a perspective that you just can't replicate on a screen.
My Favorite VR App!
that sounds fun!
Flerther: That's fake.
@@jestes7 it is.
I haven't used it for a while now, but for a bit, I was using it to sit on various mountain tops soaking in the scenery while dealing with my emails on a virtual screen.
It's great for that. Or visiting somewhere virtually with street-view
Even Google maps gets this across.
Just look up your home town/city and compare how big it is compared to your house, then zoom out to the state/county, then the country. At each stage the difference in size is staggering, and that's not even a full continent, there's multiple continents, and combined they don't even make up 1/3rd of Earth's surface.
Even for those who deny the size of countries/continents have to admit Earth is massive when they start seeing how tiny everything is to everything else. I don't think any of them argue only their one city/county/state/country exists, and if they do they don't trust maps anyway.
if the earth was flat, it would flip over due to their big egos...
I'm reminded of that image of a flat earth getting spun by the Chixulub asteroid and launching the dinosaurs 😂
Thank you for breaking that down. I've been trying to tell people about the fact they're not calculating the sizes and heights. The easiest way I could explain it was pointing out how planes only fly about 6-7 miles up, and to picture on a flat landscape, how little away that is, and I try to get them to visualize this. These examples are great. Thanks for working out all these calculations.
Your dog is smarter than every flat-earther combined😂
Your dog is smarter than every Globers and owner combined😂
@@wiktorchmMy god it’s a wild one. I have a genuine question for you. How can you believe something so commonly understood as an outdated and archaic earth model? What makes earth any different from every other large object? And how would the people hiding the earths true shape even begin to comprehend the enormous logistical issue? They would need to pay every single construction worker, airlines pilot, airline passenger, astronaut, submarine operator, astronomer, and hundreds of other professions to keep the secret, and if even one comes forward with real evidence, the operation is blown. How does that work?
@@wiktorchmcopy and pasting flat earther +ratio
@@wiktorchmwhat
Amazing video. I didn’t realize that the atmosphere was so close to the ground. I don’t think they taught us this in school.
at only 120,000 feet of altitude the atmospheric pressure is down to within 1% of a perfect vacuum. all of the meaningful parts of the atmosphere are well below that.
@@flatearth12You can.
@@flatearth12 I can’t tell if you are being ironic.
@@rotorbob No, he's just being a dick. It's the only thing he ever does.
@@flatearth12yep. Sun go spinny
The imperfections allowed in a brand new billiard ball are more than the variations in earths crust if they were the same scale. The earth appears flat because it is so unbelievably big that you have to be in space before the curve becomes readily apparent. When they say that the sun is only 3,000 miles up then it becomes ridiculous when you put that to scale.
I smile Everytime your dog reminds you to stop talking with your hands. Lol. So cute. Like, dad, stop waiving your hands and let me!
Flat earthers can’t comprehend how big the Earth is because they all live in their tiny bubble, wanting to feel big and special.
Globers can’t comprehend how big the Earth is because they all live in their tiny bubble, wanting to feel big and special.
I found that incredibly interesting and again at the age of 71 I learned something.
Be smarter and test the official curvature formula
Never too old to learn something new. 😉 That's great to hear.
@@freefreepalestine360 Be smarter and test the path of the shadow of a stick under sunlight.
@@freefreepalestine360 There is no official formula.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver There is though. x² + y² = r².
Flat earthers just don't know that one.
Flerfer logic "This globe has a line that say Equator on it, but there is no line in the ocean with Equator written on it so globe is fake!"
Thanks
The ISS is closer to where I live, than the next comparably sized metro area is to where I live. Cool.
i wish i lived that remote.
Your dog is absolutely lovely!
Yep, I loved the beginning of the video when Dave had the Globe in his hand, and the dog was giving a little kick out "hey, I'm more important than the Whole world...".
Flat earthers: Ignoring refraction to refute round earth.
Also flat earthers: Explaining why the sun looks like it's setting when it's always above us as being due to refraction.
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They can only have one thought at a time
I model solar eclipses for my students. I have a foam ball that is roughly to scale to one of my globes. In class, it appears that the moon's shadow should almost always hit the Earth. Then we guess how far away the moon is, to scale.
837 feet!
We are talking about people who spent a lifetime failing every exam and feeling mentally inadequate to virtually everyone on the planet. Now, they get to "know" that they're among the elite few who truly know how the world works. Do you honestly expect to compete with that sort of high, armed with nothing but facts and reality?
We are talking about Globers, people who spent a lifetime failing every exam and feeling mentally inadequate to virtually everyone on the Earth. Now, they get to "know" that they're among the elite few who truly know how the world works. Do you honestly expect to compete with that sort of high, armed with nothing but facts and reality?
@wiktorchm Mimicking grownups and playing pretend is a healthy and normal part of human development. It helps one prepare for participation in the grown-up world. Most of us finish with that stage long before we learn to write, but, better late than never, I suppose.
Bro you actually killed him@@mustwereallydothis
@@wiktorchmliterally just “I know you are, but what am I?” Toddler brained argument tactics.
Why are all of you such bullies?
"If you take earth with all of its mountains and deep oceans and shrink it down to the size of a cue ball, it's smoother than any cue ball ever machined" - Neil Degrasse Tyson
Not actually true, roughness of a new cue ball is an average of 1 micron, Earth at the same scale has an average higher than that, to the point that parts would feel like sandpaper- a quick Google will debunk NDT's claim. He makes a lot of claims he seems to not fact check himself
NDT is a 🤡
you are comically wrong@@ToxicJelly9
Ever noticed that most flat earthers never seem to have travelled outside the US or the UK?!?
I lived in the southern hemisphere for 15 years and flights work exactly like in the north. They exist, they take predictable times and they do not divert through the northern hemisphere.
I have sailed north of Iceland in July and south of Cape Horn in December. Both times we got 20+ hours of daylight per day.
Had I ever doubted the globe I had in my bedroom as a five-year-old, travel would have proved it to be correct
Any time I need 15 minutes of total hilarity, I watch conspiracy toonz, Dave Mck or Simon man Dan on flat Earth. Keep up the good work!
Unfortunately quite few have, Nathan Oakley and Phuket Word to name just 2, but we know they are both grifters.