Huge Path of Exile 1 and 2 News! What Path Of Exile's Future Looks Like! My Thoughts and Reaction!
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I dont give a fuck about Reddit or the mad people anymore, these games have gotten nothing but better and better over time. Ill put my faith in them and continue to enjoy POE2
Helllllll yeah louder!!!
GGG is genuinly on of the most honest devs. were so used to them being on the ball that we expected it to flow easily. this is just growing pains, give it a bit of time and theyll be right back at it.
Good take my man. It’s so crazy how hard people go against GGG despite all the goodwill they’ve accumulated towards the community. It’s not easy being a good dev team, gamers need to chill man
GGG could never release roadmap due to how hard the community would fixate and complain about dates if they were missed, so unfortunately that will never happen due to the players.
Sadly this is the truth :(
Yeah, gaslight the player base when GGG consistently fail to stick with their timeline and yet we're still following them. And I'm not saying every entitled reaction is warranted, but they do make it hard to accept the " sorry we failed " over and over.
As an IT professional I'm held accountable and responsible to deliver according to plan and commitments to my clients. Of course I'd get complaints whenever I'd fail to deliver as that is my job. I don't see why it shoild be any different for GGG with their clients... everything else is just excuses and poor management on their part.
GGG cant release a road map because they dont have any idea when anything is happening
@@angrywoodbooger3353 which is totally fine if they just accept the delays that then come with Poe2. But it seems like they're not accepting of delays for Poe2 to the point where they're willing to completely cannibalize POE1 to meet deadlines that don't even exist for Poe2. That whole conversation about ..well, the player's fault they won't release a roadmap...is insane
I prefer PoE2 by far. I don't see myself ever playing PoE1 again. People are welcome to have their own opinions though. At the very least, GGG is more transparent and honest than pretty much any other company. If you want to say they aren't transparent enough, fine. But you can't also complain when unforeseen things cause delays, because guess what, they always will, and the lesson GGG learns should be how to account for and avoid them as much as possible, instead of just being less transparent because it might upset people.
I think your take really levels out the emotional and realistic side of how this all played out. The analogy was also great, and I hope a lot of people really resonated with something like that, because in principle it is very similar.
Of course, a dev team who is passionate about the work they do, as shown in how honest and transparent GGG is with their challenges they encounter and plans they intend on bringing to fruition. It sucks that scope blindness is a real thing and that they're unable to give the players what they had the confidence was possible; but like your analogy, shit happens and plans sometimes just fall through.
GGG will right the ship, as they are aware they have high expectations on them. But this is simply the result of passion unfortunately weighing heavier for the GGG team than reality, until reality hit them.
That passion is going to bring us the best experience as they continue working through the challenges their facing right now. .
I think they handled this announcement well, but it doesn't change the fact that this is disappointing. It is understandable that things happened and that GGG was not prepared, but isn't it also ok to hold them accountable for the lack of preparation that led to this situation? They were asked several times about their ability to actually develop and maintain 2 games at the same time and they repeatedly said it would be fine.
I'll loop it back to your example of the blown tire. If I have been pointing out your bald tires for weeks and you keep telling me yeah, it'll be fine. Now you happen to blow a tire on the day that we had plans. I am going to tell you that I understand you had a blown tire and you couldn't make it. However, I'm also going to tell you that maybe you should have gotten those tires replaced when I pointed that out to you and I'm disappointed that you couldn't make it.
Yea tbh, I understand where poe1 players coming from. Especially, if they don’t enjoy the poe2 exp currently or ever. But, come on guys. GGG is doing such a great job on POE2 and even POE1. Sure POE1 settlers has been the current league for going on 6mths and prob 9mths now at least. But, would u rather them just rush stuff and give us things “half baked” and potentially created more imbalance or harm.. GGG is by far the most transparent team I’ve ever seen. They don’t mess around and really do have the best intentions in mind when it comes to make a fun game for all.
People may not like it, but you know what i value? Imformation and communication. GGG is great. They are honestly telling us what is going on and what the thought process is and i respect that
Reason I like GGG right here. They own up to their mistakes/ problems and try to keep the community in the loop.
They do!
But they didn't. This problem should have been known since they had the idea of seperating the games. I always monitor their linked in and they did so little calls to hire new people. On top of that the delay was propbably known inside the ggg walls since decembre yet they decided to sit silent until almost feb. To squeeze as much players / supporter packs as possible. Also with this communication they show that poe1 is not a priority and it is not even parallel to poe2 which is not what they "communicated" with us after poe2 reveal.
I’ve played video games for 20 years but path of exile for only a few months. I can see why the community is upset but I’ve never seen devs take this much accountability. They kept it real, addressed the problems and ensured everyone they’re working towards solutions. No one is perfect
My wife and I both has around 4000 hours in PoE. but since PoE 2 came out we stopped playing. The problem for us is that it's been so long with no new content that we've just lost interest in either game. I don't know if I'm even going to go back to PoE 1 with the next expansion or not. I think there's a big divide between people that jumped to PoE2 and those that wanted to wait for it to be finished and were expecting to still play PoE1 in the meantime.
100% brother. Love the game. Ill take it with all its flaws now and i know itll get better. Lvling new classes and trying out things and enjoying it all.
Thanks for having a reasonable take man, so much negativity everywhere it was getting to me. Glad to hear some people have words of reason
The negativity is crazy, a lot of people are mad for god knows what reason
@Travic_ as usual to how the internet is 😂
They are currently making the rest of the content to full release and simultaneously balancing and fixing poe 2 as we test it. Anyone who thought theyd be focusing on poe 1 right now isnt paying attention . Especially for how big the launch of the this early release was. Even now 2 months after release of an incomplete game it still has a higher or close enough to it player count than the average poe 1 league peak. I really like poe 1 as well but i dont even think ill play it much once poe 2 full releases just because i dont want to get burnt out on 2 poe games. I like the break in between leagues to take a breather and play other games, id bet alit id the poe 1 base is thinking the exact same thing. Poe 2 is just so big and will take the average player so much longer to progress through that they might not even have time to complete poe 2 league to the end and then bounce back to poe 1.
i love the facts that he´s so transparrent about it and that hes open about it and tell it like it is.
Yup! Its true
It's not transparent when you can no longer put it off. He avoided the question during the q&a fully knowing they hadn't worked on it at all
Unfortunately for me, I happened to be in the poe1/2 discord voice chat when the vid dropped. I gotta tell you, I've never felt so ashamed & had so much second hand embarrassment as I did listening to complaints as I did yday. It was like watching children cry because they could only have their cookie at 11 instead of at 10.
Love poe1, love poe2 (regardless if it's there yet) but GGG as a company & specifically Johnathan, ChrisW & Mark as a trio are exactly what a studio needs. People lose perception so fast it's not funny. 45 days ago, these 3 were the unsung heroes of the world, revolutionizing gaming & community engagement. Today, they fell short of perfection (which they mostly have been for the last decade, just look at their release schedule) and now they're suddenly these movie villains. Reddit's even asking for Johnathans resignation.
These guys & this studio did something I've never seen any company, much less a relatively small game studio which could use the revenue a lot more than many other AAA companies: They made skins transferrable between games because it was logical to do it for their players. These guys own up to everything they do wrong and even then they mess up - which, btw, they do 100x less than 99% gaming studios, similar to Fromsoftware.
If that doesn't tell you where these guys heads are at, idk what will. This whole ordeal made it look like there's some conspiracy or evil intentions and the online world eats it up and makes a huge unwarranted drama out of it.
In the next 30 days we'll have 0.2 & in 50 days we'll have 3.26. The world won't end & I guarantee you the same people crying to the skies today they're refunding and their world is over will not only survive but will also go 180 and shower praise in 30 and 50 days.
More like 11 instead of 3. It was already been months and now more
@panzerswineflu you have had the game for 10 years. They admitted they messed up move one. When the new leauge drops you'll play for a week and move on until reddit gets into an uproar like it has now you you'll stamp your feet again. But in the end it's all glimg to be ok😊
they are doing their best guys we just wait, I like both games. Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet.
They definitely weren’t expecting 500k players on steam. That’s still not counting console numbers either! I think they’re doing a great job!
That also doesnt count people on the base client either and I know a lot of people on the base client!
Bullcrap. Stop coping. They have sales numbers, they have downloads, they have all kinds of metrics. Jonathan himself told US to expect 1 million people in early December before release. Stop lying.
accurate take, accurate facts
the comments just prove people have no concept or understanding about basic business or what software development entails
the one poster says 80% of the people left.. maybe they need some basic elementary math lessons.. 80% of 1 million would be 800,000.. a quick look at the steam numbers, since we dont know the standalone client, show still 500K active users... math ain't mathing
even better, PoE1 has, from someone that has played since 2013, NEVER had 500K, even at a league launch.. let alone 2 months into a league
PoE 2 *IS* the future, and its HOT, basic business says do whatever you can to keep that going
I'm excited to see new classes, and they've admitted they don't like the endgame / mapping, so that can only get better
Will you do a guide on what type of relics to buy for the best result in relic farming sanctum?
It is indeed in the works!
@ nice
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i played poe2 for a week and a half and now i'm waiting to be isekai'd into the universe where GGG didn't funnel most of their money and manpower into poe2 but instead spent their time improving poe1
Two different games, two different balances. PoE 1 is High Defense Simulator, PoE 2 is High DPS Simulator.
They will always need to be balancing their development between the two games. Let's see if they can grow the team fast enough to keep them both going
"It's hard to think about what poe1 needs when poe2 has major problems" that right there is the mistake: Treating poe 1 and poe 2 as if they are deveolped by the same team flies on the face of their once-upon-a-time assertion that if they let the games borrow teams from each other, it would lead into them feeling incentivised to abandon poe1. They needed to stick closer to this one rule nad not let their fears of a broken poe2 dictate a decision that could well harm both games.
Also, it's not like poe2 is unplayable right now. Sure, it kinda sucks, but it's not like we all expected all of the problems to be fixed in a single patch? Heck, I still don't think it's even possible with this announcement. Not to mention this feels a bit like he's saying "taking devs from poe1 was a mistake, so we're taking devs from poe1 for longer." I agree he's feeling emotional over this and my heart goes out to Jonathan, it truly does.... but... I can't really agree with most of the decisions he's been announcing for a while now.... IDK man...
They are starting something new. They want to do it right. That's all. Quality over Quantity any day.
Also, POE2 is still pulling in more numbers than the highest peak of POE1. Why wouldn't they prioritize it more?
@@EX1L3D_L3G3ND You said it, it's pulling more numbers, so why would it be so urgent? And the rule they set for themselves about not cannibalizing teamsi s one that they have already broken and has already caused them problems to do so. In addition, if you're gonna make a decision based solely on which game is pulling more numbers now, then what's the difference between that and just shutting down poe1? It's always gonna pull lower numbers if you keep updating poe2. With that logic it makes sense to put all people permanently in poe2. Except that's what a big company would do.
@@Sey318 If you are saying that, clearly you haven't been with Path of Exile for long. Stop generalising Big companies. There is a difference between Blizzard and GGG. They have promised support for Path of Exile 1 and they will support it. If you don't like where its headed, you can leave. With the entry criteria into exile like ARPG being reduced by POE 2, I can pretty much say that most of the new players will also like to give Path of Exile 1 a try when they see all their favorite streamers playing them. It will take time to be perfect. Have some patience.
@@EX1L3D_L3G3ND 1- I've been with the game since domination league, over 12 years. Don't do ad homnien just cus you don't like my argument
2- Normally I'd have blind faith in GGG, but like I've said, I see more and more decisions I don't agree with.
3-NONE of the things you're saying here adress any of my arguments. I've been very careful of expressing my ideas respectfully, and I get that you're emotionally invested, but don't bring fallacies or hyperboles here. I won't quit the game, I stand by my previous opinions, and if you disagree that's fine but if you get hury by them, then you are the one that needs to take a step back.
the great thing about poe is it is easy to pickup and drop in between leagues. my suggestion to doomers, go through your game backlogs as chris also said before.
I was personally looking for how they would handle big game releases in feb as I was planning to skip the league for some monster hunter anyway.
I'm a new PoE2 player; I've tried PoE1 multiple times but never really got hooked. Because of that, I don't have any negative feelings about the delay. However, I am quite surprised by the outcry.
GGG has never launched a second game before. They've never managed multiple titles in parallel. How does it look in your companies or in your personal lives when you try something new? Surely, you also make mistakes, and not everything runs perfectly from the start. Somehow, I don't understand why the community seems to lack perspective and understanding for GGG, even though they clearly communicate their mistakes.
Imagine if this were Blizzard or EA. There would be radio silence for three months or longer before anything happened, and even then, it would likely underdeliver. So far, GGG is handling this much better.
This have been brewing for some time so you would have missed out on that as a new player.
A lot of PoE1 players were quite wary about PoE2 since they changed it's development direction to being a separate game. People were afraid of it negatively impacting PoE1. We were of course continuously assured that GGG could handle it
Previously we were used to 3-4 leagues yearly and now we've seen 2 leagues since the beginning of 2024 with no new league in sight. So PoE1 have clearly been affected negatively for some time now by PoE2.
So all in all there's been this fear that PoE1 would become the unwanted child once the new baby arrived and those fears are now seeming more likely to be valid.
@@renediffiePretty well explained. Hope they do better
@@renediffieit didn't sound like they are stopping expansions for Poe 1
@@tesladrew2608 I am not filled with confidence. I do think that pulling all resources from PoE1 for this long sends a pretty clear message. I hope I'm wrong.
RAMBLE ON MY FRIEND! :)
Ramble Ramble
POE 2 would be better with Blight, Have you been doing you blights =) Wish I still could! Great take Travic the Blightfather!
Soon! I can’t wait it better come back or we riot!
Yay poe1 news . We are not forgotten 🎉
xD
Not everything needs to be an extreme. Not everyone who's upset about this is claiming that GGG is evil.
I was an optimist about PoE1 up until today but I'll be honest this put a pretty big dampener on my outlook. I expected they at least had a tiny team of devs on PoE1 and not nothing. It's also not like 0.2 comes out and everything is right in PoE2 land. With 0.2 will come new issues and demands from the playerbase.
Again, not saying this this evil scheme or anything. I think they want a world where both PoE1 and PoE2 are thriving. I'm just not so sure they can deliver on it any more.
Yeah its wild how extreme some people are getting. I am curious to see what happens.
I still have so much end game stuff to do honestly. A lot of atlas points. I have a life n 2 jobs so i don’t have time to play as much as I like so im fine lol
honestly, i have never seen such good developer announcements. huge props to the team and Jonathan
I think they do a fantastic job of getting their thoughts out.
You think this is good, wait till last second of your previously announced schedule, to just put up a middle finger to all PoE1 players who already feel abandonned, damn man people are really delusional. I get it that its delayed, but this is not good communication. This should have been announced the first moment they knew they were working on it, not the last second.
@@Lorunexand what would that have achieved? Do you already know what problems are gonna come up in your future life? Yes you can plan for it but shit hits the fan when trying something new. Calm down.
@@Lorunexit's funny, every time there's a positive comment, some whiner has to give their 2 cents lol
I'm not mad I'm just disappointed. poe 2 is not my cup of tea it is still 2+ years out from being good in my book. Settlers is still fun I'm still farming away but I wish they would at least spend a weekend doing some number changes on skill gems, end settlers and nerco settlers, and then do a release of settlers 2.0 with a possible different meta would do a lot to hold us over for the next 5+ months.
i just HATE that i LOVE this game so much 💯💯❤❤ die in dungeon, right away just start a new one 😅
Great analogy with the car. I am already avoiding some streams because of the doomers and they lied to us chatters.
I AINT GONNA BE NO DAMN DOOMER HERE WE GOING TO LEVEL A NEW GUY AND RIDE BRO!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets go!
xD
If they have to drop poe and d4 so we get a better poe2 im good with it. Ggg is becoming know for not being on time...
When is the release for POE 2 and the new league, etc? The economy right now is totally fricked with some dupe bugs haha
Hopefully POE2 0.2 introduces crafting.
Would be nice to see more crafting options
Off topic question, Wat happen to Chris Wilson
I dont know. I just know like the other founders they sold their shares. From my knowledge (not a 100% sure if this is true) he is still on the board and does the business side of things but who knows.
10:19 I don't like you making fun of my Appalachian accent
NOT INTENTIONAL MY BAD!
Why is there so much drama 😂 tldr : poe1 no more updates for now, focus is on poe2. Duh
BYE BYE! If they think that they will earn even 30% of the money they get from POE 1, they will find out soon how wrong they are.
Poe 2 is a bad, ruthless mode with Dark Souls; no one will pay for it.
I can bet 1 million dollars on it.
Player numbers speak another story. Go do some research.
Bro if you think it's ruthless you've never played ruthless or Poe 2 after the first week.
Surprise cat best cat.
Ah the video i was waiting for. I was already in the boat that poe 2 patch to let poe 1 cook.
Yeah! I believe it will be good we just need to be patient xD
Good points Travic, however, lets ignore the poe1 drama and focus on how mismanaged things appear to be at GGG and its pretty obvious why POE1 is on ice for now. 6 years development for poe2, a rushed end game compounded by a clusterfuck release in November and then a christmas break where there was radio silence. latency issues, randoms DC's, bugs, still are rampant and we've had 2 months EA and still no major update yet and they want to release this in a year? With that said, there is only so far good faith goes, and I'm willing to give it, even if its disappointing but that only goes so far. Jorgen has a good video going over things from a project manager perspective and its kind of an interesting watch.
Yeah there is for sure some kind of insane behind the scenes problems going on. Makes you wonder if its like a typical "THE BOARD IS MAKING US".
I wonder if they will ever give us an update when everything is said and done as to what is going on. I doubt they can say it was the board but god knows I am curious.
As far as good faith goes I think if the next update goes well and the product is good and they keep there word a lot of people will be happy. What they need to do is let us know when 0.2.0 is or a roadmap and what to expect and people can atleast plan.
@@Travic_ dude a roadmap would be amazing, but if they fell short I think the community would riot harder than they already are
A aspirant can afford to be promising. An emperor must keep those promises.
Great quote
...over promise...
Nice vid bro.
Did the news make me a bit sad, sure, but i also dont wanna play rushed content.
I say, let GGG cook
LET THEM COOK!
@@Travic_ OH I CANT WAIT TO WAIT ANOTHER 7 MONTHS
They have constantly been above board and at least communicative. I'm having a blast with PoE 2 so I can wait.
Heck yeah!
Its kind of a predicament for them. Poe 1 grew organically into the state it became, allowing the business models now proven concept. People may not like it but i think either of these games needs some type of subrisctption service, especially for league content. That way the numbers do the talking, and they can staff each game with the amount of people truly needed. They already essentially broke the free to play model, so why not just admit it? Can still keep base game free. Maybe include first league free but after that a small fee for playing each season is totally reasonable to me.
What is totally reasonable for you isn't the same for rest of the world. It is not that easy. If you are living in one of the developed nations, it would be nothing for you to spend 30-40$ per league. That is not the case for the other half. PoE 1 didn't have regional pricing, PoE 2 has regional pricing for a very small number of countries on steam. This is just one issue that comes to mind. There will be dozens other reasons.
@EX1L3D_L3G3ND I'm talking like 10$ a league. And maybe cheaper if you buy a year. You may not like changes but from a business development standpoint, something has to give. Either poe1 or 2 needs something to that capacity
I love both games too and I’m neutral on the news. Once 3.26 announcement trailer comes, there is going to be a million “login” comments regardless
RIGHT PEOPLE WILL FORGET IN A WEEK!
Well it all goes down to : want do you guys want? A blizzard organistion that release seasons in both diablo but both games get pretty boring
Or:
Quality ( very good quality) from a smaller studio but yeah its hard mannig both project at the same time.
And the " straight to the point and honest " comments
Give them a break and let them do what they are so excellent at doing.
Be patient
Ps: the cat and the analogy ... lol ;) my cat the same btw 😅
As someone whos never played poe1 and started with poe 2 the transparency from the dev team is top tier. They move fast and try to get out the best content. A lot of games dont have that.
Yeah a lot of games would tell us to pound salt
What are you smoking? this is not transparency! they could ve told us months ago. they hid this shit until they couldnt hide anymore, this is bullshit
Gamesdeadlol😂😂😂
I’ve always loved your content and blight but this glazing ain’t it. See ya later
Thanks for watching!
Bye
"im more excited for 0.2.0 than 3.26" beside the fact this video is just apologia for a corporation screwing its users over, there are literally 3 archetypes in poe2 that do damage and you're so hype to go back? Even if you do believe Johnathan, you should be pressuring him so they release at least a legacy league. Hard to see this video as anything other than "im having fun so i dont care about the game the rest of rhe community spend hundreds of dollars each on"
YOU LITERALLY COMPARE GGG TO YOUR FRIEND AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO ARE YOU AN ADULT??? GET A GRIP THIS IS A CORPORATION MAN
Go touch some grass kiddo. Imagine shouting at a different adult on why they enjoy something.
Are you an adult? Grow up
if poe2 has 40% of the content in it, its way worse than i thought. The core of this game is not good at all, the amount of work that needs to be done is huge...this game needs to be torn down to the core and revamped...not just the non existent end game...down to the core
Accurate name, garbage take
@@marcom4024 im sorry that you never got to experience poe1 so that you could accurately measure the 2 games. Im even more sorry that you feel that you think that poe2 is a great game. Its full of bad design decisions from top to bottom, and i actually hope that they are addressed in the very near future. Of coarse that has yet to be the case so far, and they dont have forever to figure it out, 80% of players are already gone. Do you expect that number to go up by magic or something? I wont refer to your blind cuckery as a garbage take, but i would hope that everybody wants improvements
Womp womp
@@angrywoodbooger3353 Ok Mr. Big Shot Game Designer. Just yap yap yap with zero constructive criticism
@@angrywoodbooger3353I played Poe 1 for thousands of hours and I've poured hundreds of hours into Poe 2. They are both good. I like not dying as much in Poe 2 and wasd is amazing.
How wants play POE1?? When poe2 is 💯 better. Fix issues with poe2.
I can see myself playing a new league but POE2 offers so much. Just WSAD alone is 10/10
First
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I'd like to talk about the title. What news about poe2 did we get? Your title is just a straight lie.