A Solution to World Hunger?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A look at some well documented and major inefficiencies in the global food distribution that are by driven food choice plus how fix them.
- Links and Sources -
A Well Fed World: awfw.org/
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Ian Harper Thesis: drive.google.c...
Insta: / ianharper_
Top 1% owns half of the wealth:
www.bbc.com/new...
Number of people are malnourished or starving:
www1.wfp.org/ze...
www.worldhunger...
revolutionhunge...
Percent of Earth Overweight:
www.healthdata....
Land animal biomass statistic:
"The Earth's Biosphere: Evolution, Dynamics, and Change" (MIT Press"
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Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Position of Vegan Protein:
www.andjrnl.org...
Livestock occupy 30% of and and use 1/3 of freshwater:
www.pnas.org/co...
Cornell - US produces enough grain to feed the world's hungry:
www.news.cornel...
Vegan diet uses 1/8 land of standard omnivore diet:
www.elementasc...
82% of starving people live where food is fed to animals:
comfortablyunaw...
FAO Cropland and Potential Cropland Estimate: www.fao.org/doc...
University of Wisconsin Satelline Grazing Land Estimate:
www.nelson.wis...
Animal products provide 16% of the Earth's calories (Book: World Food and You):
books.google.c...
We produce enough food to feed 10 billion people:
www.researchga...
33% of cropland is used for animal feed:
www.fao.org/doc...
Resource Wars over Land and Water:
www.africarevie...
I realize this video goes a little fast so feel free to pause and read stuff!
Note: I am wearing mineral sunscreen in this video that makes me look a bit pasty. Last time I did this in a video (oil video) I got a ton of comments by people saying a vegan diet will turn you into a ghastly, unhealthy zombie lollll - Nope, just the sunscreen. Living under a bridge will have that effect though. Nice try trolls.
My mom told me my skin is turning green being vegan.
"A vegan diet will make your skin so sensitive that you have to wear sunscreen indoors 0mFg!!!11!eleven"
...I see them coming
well my mom told me my skin looks as healthy as it has ever been since I have been vegan, soooo ! And he prob had sunscreen on from when he went outside and then filmed this video without washing it off. Just saying
Great graphics. How did you do that?
walter byrd 3ds Max :)
I always feel like that one lonely little blue stick person who's like, "Hey guys. I'm vegan!" 😂
Carbs Are Happiness I feel ya
(and I love your icon almost as much as I love pasta)
Camila Stefanie woohoo thank you 😉😇 I love pasta too (almost as much as Matty)
same, we don't even make up one whole person hahaha
Me too :)
You're that guy that says WAIT GUYS IM VEGAN! when having a baby
try using this as a conversation starter in any dinner/class/event and watch the world burn
one time I pointed out during an ethics class (in a political science major) that the solution to many environmental and social issues could be a change of diet... and everyone freaked out. some people pointed at how I was suggesting the destruction of western society's values -lmao what values- and that 'we may as well go all the way and be communists'.
it was a fun -hellish- debate. obviously people left feeling butthurt af and at least two people said that I was a hippie that 'obviously didn't get how the real world works' lol
Camila Stefanie
It's amazing how one simple lifestyle change can solve so many of the world's problems.
ahahaha nice work
Camila Stefanie lol I know how that feels. As soon as food is mentioned people get all defensive and triggered. It doesn't matter how many facts you tell them. They just shut off if they're not ready to hear the truth.
ben l can you believe a few days after one guy from my class was eating a burger and we made awkward eye contact from across the cafeteria and he put it away. Later he told me that he 'would not apologize for eating a burger because we live short lives and I wanna enjoy mine'. My reply was 'I literally haven't said a word what the hell'.
edit: I'm a tiny bit drunk and I can't spell
Julia Crawford some people get so ridiculously offended it makes me laugh. I'm happy planting the seed of doubt. I know some people who have gone vegetarian and then vegan because of it so I guess it works
I just went vegan a couple weeks ago because of watching your videos! I am not a whole food vegan yet because i live in a dorm but next year when i have a bigger fridge and can cook things I am excited to start that journey. This is changing my life already and I have become so passionate about informing people about the veganism. I even got my mom to start trying to transition to this life style. Keep up the informative videos! You are changing peoples lives like you've changed mine!
graphics were so quality & helpful! your vids are turning into mini documentaries!
I lost 60 pounds going vegan already. I plan on losing all my extra weight too. Veganism is literally the best thing you can do for yourself. Anyone who deny's that is ignorant.
Great job dude, kindness to animals and the environment pays off for yourself, LOVE YOU
SgtTeddybear59
How long have you been vegan? I have lost 10 lbs over 10 weeks. I also eat a lot of vegan processed foods. I am having a hard time letting go of Gardein and
Beyond Meat.
+Smallville Boyd If you stick to whole foods you would loose weight...
J. Israel
Thanks! I definitely appreciate the encouragement. I will try and incorporate more whole foods!
In my opinion, the biggest cost savings by far is health care costs. Health care impacts the environment, too, a great deal. Everything to construct and operate health care facilities as well as construct and operate medical schools would be reduced. Emergency services, and drug factories, medical equipment manufacturing facilities: reduced dramatically.
Edit; As a followup, just thinking about the costs are so complicated. Still, if health care isn't the biggest cost, it's still up there.
How about the costs in growing and transporting the produce? The environmental costs associated with ensuring stable food supplies? The international tariffs that limit and restrict the availability of goods to feed a nation?
Your videos are so informative, you should do conferences
that is unless he is pulling all of the stats out of thin air
Jeff K They look pretty solid
Sources in the description
So who pays him to present this vegan propaganda?
UA-cam, if you get a lot of views you can make some money.
wow... you can see how much work mic always puts in his vids. very much appreciated; thank you!
Terrific video, you are a sane and brilliant man Mike. (Love the aside at 2:17.)
Packed with great information as usual, thanks! I'm trying vegan soon and started eating rice and beans daily. It's hard to eat all that food. I am already losing weight, which is a good motivating factor to sell vegan-ism to others, in my opinion. I need to get the cholesterol down, and this will help.
It's a plus that I'll use far less of the earth's resources for my own sustenance, too.
Good luck Joe!
Excellent video. You always do a really great job.
Lmao at the lady that thinks grassfed murder is the solution!! Great video mic
Very good video, thanks for making it.
Such a clever video, a really entertaining way of stating the truth.
brilliant, a 3D animation is worth 3000 words, and its more fun than a graphic
Awesome video as always!
Only one person on the island is smart enough to be vegan:(
and probably one who observe and recognise that it's not worth it
Rainbow Unicorn Not quite. NOT EVEN one person is smart enough to be vegan.
I love how you added the little frowny face
Okay I told these things to a few friends of mine and response was "then you should stop living in a house and give that area to to plant fruits and vegetables"
You keep looking better and better
Excellent video, will share on my FB page
Very cool. I liked the island perspective.
that 2.7 billion hectares of potential land includes rainforest natural habitats protected areas human settlements something you should have pointed out instead of glossing over it
Great video! Also, like you or someone else said in another video, the poor countries with starving people are selling their grain to other countries for livestock food.if the other countries' demand was not there for meat, their own people could buy it at lower cost.
Your videos are amazing. The editing, the information, everything. Congratulations!
I learn something new from u everyday
Haha I went into you're channel wanting to hate you. But you make great arguments and you obviously put a lot of work into this.
great info! thanks mic.
More like Nightmare Island; it really puts the contrasts into focus by using a microcosm model. This is a very elegant way to describe the now slightly marginalized vegan argument concerning feeding hungry populations; TFP!
Im not sure if it's genetics or my diet but i look 16 instead of 20 everyone always say i look younger than i look.
Diet has caused Harley and Freelee to look older.... Glycation from high fructose diet
I don't eat high amounts of fruits or sugar but ill eat almost anything that is vegan.
You are smart for your age, star. Good luck in the future.
Thanks.
yeah, thats not really great. You want to look 25 when you're 35.
Great video! Fucking love you! Keep fighting the good fight.
You the man Mic. Thank you for what you do.
"Idiots!" I lost it omg 😂😂😂
Hey Mic! I would humbly like to inquire (and yes I mean humbly literally not sarcastically) as to what would be done about the grazing animals if overnight we stopped consuming animal products. I am a vegan myself and that question has always intrigued me. Maybe even video worthy for yourself! Thanks for the time! God bless!
love your videos so easy to understand!
Awesome video. Easy to follow. What are your thoughts on high fat plants like avocados?
it is a big problem that we face nowadays
Im vegan However I see that most people wont change their diet, they adore meat 😒
Nat Traveler and Foodie Most people are unwilling to make any kind of positive change in their lives.
Habit is hard to break.
Meat is a powerful and addictive lie. Time heals all.
yeah bacon is pretty good
Sorry for liking good food. I will be sure to change my lifestyle for a movement that probably won't be successful
This video and many of your other videos are great because they're informative AND when I turn them on my roommate leaves the room! Win-win!
hey mic, have you done a video on physical signs of aging and a plant based diet? i'd love to see that. thanks.
This makes sense.
super grateful for this video👏👏👏
a great argument for veganism from a different angle
if everyone didn't participate in christmas for one year and instead spent the same amount of money toward feeding the poor, we could end world hunger for a year
wow amazing vid!
Hi Mic! I can't find on the net the picture from 0:18. It's map of food distribution? (just ensuring)
So I just started watching and this is sort of a dumb question but someone recently asked me how I know that like chemicals and added hormones are bad for you, how do you know it's unhealthy to eat an apple covered in wax? is there a video that addresses that?
Mic I love you and your channel but if you want to talk about economic topics you've gotta library up on the topic. I recommend you start with Thomas Sowell.
I wanna see more Mic 3D models.
You don't really address any of the other issues with world hunger, such as governments not supporting their local farmers, countries that cannot compete with industrialized countries (whether it be more labor required due to lack of tools or simply inferior crops), or that a large portion of farmers in poor countries focus more heavily on growing exported goods rather than crops for their own country (because they cannot compete with imported food).
Can someone explain the biomass number to me? correct me if I'm wrong but is he suggesting the numbers of animals in the wild is 12% of the number of humans where as livestock numbers are ten times that of humanity? so there are approximately 7 billion humans, 70 billion livestock and 840 million animals in the wild? is that accounting for marine life? I don't follow the cited excerpt.
Your are great at doing videos have just gone vegan so learning a lot from you and sites you have recommended, I have a question I have noticed that a lot of vegan you tubers eat a cooked lunch as well as dinner what is the reason for this and I'm having trouble transitioning my two boys 6 and 7 from typical sandwiches to vegan sandwich e.g. fake meat as they don't like it, any sites you know of would be helpful.
How did you create the model?
I loved this video hahah information. Great 3d thingy with the islands so fun haha
PLEASE PLEASE MIC! Mke a video on gluten! Everything about it has made me shit scared. So I am a "gluten free" vegan. I dont even eat zeitan.
u can solve hunger by not throwing so much food away in supermarkets! freeganism
I’m a vegan but I have a question, what will happen to all of the livestock if vegan diet became more popular?
In a perfect world where humans cared enough for each other, this could work but things like religion and selfish interests come into play. But there’s a lot of things that affect poverty - How do you suggest we get an equal health care and education system all over the world?
I have read on pro meat sites that the "feed the grain to people" argument is a misnomer as most animal feed is unsuitable for human consumption and also that a lot of grazing land is unsuitable for planting crops. I am mindful of the bias here* and was wondering whether these counterarguments were accounted for when making these claims - my first thought was simply plant crops suitable for humans instead but I am open to this argument being dismissed as unrealistic. Do you have a take or know of studies/research that address this point? Thanks.
*I recognise that pro vegan arguments are also subject to bias
but see that you strive to provide neutral sources of evidence, which is important.
Your videos are a great resource for people like me, who have only recently adopted a vegan diet, and is appreciated thanks
It doesnt matter, whatever it is.
The land occupied with crops for animals, could be used in many other different ways.
Even to leave it as it is, and let nature cover it, it would be much better, that what it is now.
They just dont have any excuses.
Vagelis 4VP whilst I agree with what you say, we are talking about people whose livelihoods depend on this barbaric yet normalised industry and the onus is on those who recognise the madness of this industry to educate and change people's way of thinking, these are just ordinary folk like you and I at the end of the day. I have been quite content to eat meat and close my eyes to the cruel realities for 46 years so I'm not judging anyone, or taking a divisive vegan v omnivore stance either.
I agree...and im not judging either... im just stating the obvious that excuses like, "the land is not arable in places where we crop food for animals", just doesnt have a stance.
These are just excuses meat-eaters invent for to support their way of living and habits. It makes them sleep easy at nights.
But on the other hand, i DO take a stance. And that is in favor of plant based eating.
I cant be with both feet at each side of the fence.
Vagelis 4VP I agree that they are just excuses but they are excuses that people will cling on to in order to validate their behaviour, it's human nature.
Having only just started to venture into vegsnism and living in a family of meat eaters I am very mindful that being "right" isn't enough and that meat eaters are the biggest part of the solution so they need to be embraced not alienated when trying to expose them to the harsh realities. Personally this is all new to me so my aim is to educate myself, arm myself with facts and learn to cook better, so that my children will naturally adopt a vegan diet.
I can agree on that. Im from a meat-eaters family too... so i know how it is about.
Even thought my dad had a triple by-pass surgery (he was eating the Mediterranean diet, for those who think its a more healthy diet)..he still continues to eat meat.
Talk about how difficult is to overcome social programming.
how did you make this
No, complete inequality is one owns ALL the money and nobody else does.
There is allready enough food to feed the world population.
The problem is the economic system. It's more profitable to use grains for fuel, or simply destroy food before you hand it out for free or a to low price to those who can't afford it.
Changing everyone to a vegan diet won't level those gaps in economic power and as long as food distribution is profit driven people are going to starve, no matter what diet this profit driven food industry supports.
The problem with such thought experiments is that they don't take factors as economic power or profit driven economy into account.
Furthermore the modell falls short because it assumes that the circumstances are the same all over the island.
I live in a very water rich country, right know it would be extremely unprofitable to export that water. However we have more water than our agriculture needs.
And it would be feasible to produce animal products without relying on imported grains or taking away agricultural lands, as there are pastures unfit for agriculture. It's what some small farmers actually do and what has been done for the last hundreds of years - but then you can't sustain diets where everybody eats meat more than once a month.
Yes - consuming animal products, other than wild animals (an here in middle europe some wild animals are about 300% more than their natural population would be and are a great strain on the woods - so theres plenty of them), is a luxury paid for, by third world countries. And yes, feeding less biomatter to farmanimals would lower the cost.
But I can't see how in an Industry that rather burns excess grains to drive prices up, instead of donating them, would be any different when we all where vegans.
Furthermore the Places where droughts lead to armed conflict (Syria being the latest example, but also the Chad and Mali) lack water because of th changing climate.
The droughts in Mali did affect herding nomads the most, that allready life in an environment not fit for agriculture.
And yes i know that Animal production is the number one climate killer. But most vegans that I know are extremely proud and smug about how they save the climate while relying on a diet that is to great extents imported either by burning lots of amounts of fossil fuels.
Feeding hungry people is simply not profitably.
You'd have to change capitalism first, which is a can of worms that most vegans don't even dare to touch with a stick. indeed most are perfectly happy as long as big food gigants that patent plant genes, kill independent small farmingand have no qualms about letting thousands of people starve, produce a vegan ready made meal that they can buy in their local supermarket.
I mean people are dying in their thousands from diseases that we could cure, but giving away the medicine for free would hurt our economy. I don't see how capitalism would work any different with vegan diets as a basis. As long as somebody is to poor he will be left to die.
a generalist can never be right. not really. but there's some sense in your argument. it falls over a bit when you apply it to actual microcosms like for the many people who still live a bit bush. the strongest argument for veganism, and the one that makes total sense to me is that Im in a body whose needs are best met by plants so its just wrong therefore to eat animals, its wrong to treat others as property because of some quality of my especial choosing, like having horns or fins or being ugly or foul smelling, incomprehensible to me or palatable when grilled. nice presentation.
Plunderer?
Simple solution: when your hungry, you just eat
You can all leave the meat for me. Its becoming to expensive.
Curious if anyone has read Ishmael by Daniel Quinn, and if it has had any impact on your views of agriculture and world hunger?
I've read it. It's been awhile, though. Maybe if you share some of your thoughts it will jog my memory. I can't remember what he said specifically about world hunger.
If I remember right, he thinks that hunter gatherer societies are "in balance" with nature (not sure if this is how he'd put it, but never mind) whereas agricultural ones are more problematic. I'm personally skeptical of this view and believe that both ways of life are problematic to the planetary ecosystem. I do not believe hunting is "natural" to humans: natural hunters are equipped with claws, fangs, etc. We act outside of what our bodies evolved to do when we use tools to kill animals, and this is one of the reasons we've had such "success" taking over the globe. I wonder if one reason we developed agriculture is because we were so successful in this endeavour that tribes were running into each other and clashing more over resources, necessitating more efficient means of extracting food from the land. So, far from being "in balance with nature", the hunter gatherer lifestyle represents the first step out of that balance for humans, and agriculture the second step. My speculation is that the natural way was eating a predominantly or entirely plant-based of various fruits, greens, nuts, seeds, etc. with perhaps some occasional insects, wild eggs, and for coastal peoples, bivalves and other seafood we can collect just walking along the shore or in shallow waters.
Solution to eliminate Worls hunger : solution would be brought by sending preservatives to third world coutries and educating them so they don't breed like rabits in heat in places that have no ressources ...
Do it
mike can u make a video about how to enhance absorption of plant protein? u know its lower than animal protein and therefore every bodybuilder recommends animal protein. I heard when u eat fat with protein it digested better is this true?
I am a fan from turkey dude. keep up good work brother greetings
Its true that most plant based proteins are incomplete. But if you mix certain types of proteins like grains and legumes you end up with a complete protein.
Dolce A may I suggest that you follow some vegan bodybuilders like Vegan Physique, Naturally Stephanie or Bianca Taylor? they all have videos on this topic and all the myths of protein and bodybuilding.
I believe Mic has a video on vegan athletes as well that may help.
jeff K no mate it's a myth. I am asking about digestion it's a different thing.
thank you camila stefania
Can you do a video about whether feminists who shame vegans are hypocrites?
Should the animals starve?
Mic can you please Make a new video about acne wich foods not to eat and wich one i should eat. i eat Chia seeds everyday now but some studies say No fat intake others say Omega 3 is good against acne i dont understand a shit anymore. But in the case of wich foods not to eat dont say hamburgers and processen Stuff thats pretty obvious.
I think I would say no fat because Its the fat in your pores that gets infected that turns into pimples?
+Shrek Shruk yeah but also Good fats like Chia seeds? Cashewnuts etc
Hmm.. what about trying to CUT them all out for a little while? See if it helps?
Yeah but than i probably have shortage in omega 3 and other things
Hmmm true.. I have been vegan for 2-3 years and have struggled with a lot of acne myself. I CUT out gluten, soy ect, but the only thing that worked for me i. The END was the zalna klindamycin/tretinoin gel I got from my doctor:/ I now have completely clear skin After 9 weeks tho! :) If you add me on Snapchat @tinate I can show you the before and After if you want to!
Although the world has hunger, this is partly due to Capitalism. In capitalism, food costs money. In reality, food can be gotten for free. So, in a large way, not entirely, world hunger is Man-Made
THE EARTH IS FLAT, I knew it!
Vegans shouldn’t feel bad for the animals they should feel bad for the hungry people
Mocks you really should take your Ritalin! Sweetie you are the best! Great video.
Peace and love ❤️
surely the world can sustain some amount of meat eating.
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This is all ideal. The question is: how?
Rose0fire vegucate :)
certainly, educating people is a big deal. but I'm thinking more about the infrastructure. How do you grow vegetables for an entire planet without the help of animals?
What help of animals are you referring to?
Dugong-gut it depends on how you get your food, and how it was grown. At the moment, a lot of people rely on animal labor if they don't have access to machinery (food sovereignists for example). Manure is also a huge deal right now for good yield, either on the industrial scale, or not.
Well I personally live on a produce farm :) it's possible to do everything by hand, no equipment or animals necessary :) I think as more people move to veganism this will become more popular over time. As for manure, manure isn't the only thing that can give nutrients to the ground, dead leaves etc so as well :) Human poop is also spread on fields, sounds gross but at least our feces might have less viruses then the factory farm manure being spread now
Or have less children
Im about 4 vids into this channel and i realize im not anyway vegan. Please make plant bacon.
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Someone told me that cow poop is the main fertilizer for crops
Pig poop, chicken poop, lamb poop. Name it, they spray it over the land with all the antibiotic resistant micro organism and other pathogens in it. Just brilliant. Stuff is full of flatworms, gross beyond belief.
I call them Shit throwers and they are *AWESOME*
TheGreen Jarret If the world is vegan will human poop be used as fertilizer?
North Korea already does that. Isnt working well. Results are shit. XD.
I hear some really hardcore pot growers are using human pee in their hydoponics setup. Way too far for my tastes.
cj walsh In some parts of the world they actually do use human feces are fertilizer. Google what happens when you flush a toilet.
plant based fertilizers exist.
Alternatively, you can also use nitrogen fixing plants by growing them aside your main crops.
hi i am a veg. can we pls scorp up on some veg talk, would love to pick your brian ab daily crack. talk soon veg bro xoxo veg bro guy
just eat lol
The best way is to reduce the birth rate.
Under capitalism there will always be famine, market driven scarcities, and waste. I think you missed that by a long shot at the end. The only way to realistically feed the world with the numbers you gave is if our default economic system was communism NOT capitalism.
I understand that your videos are to introduce non-vegans to the idea of going vegan, and introducing another radical dogma like communism is a tad overwhelming. I just felt like pointing that ending point out.
I think he alluded to that when he mentioned the "additional challenges"
Either way, whatever the solution, doing it in a more vegan world will be easier as opposed to the opposite.
Jim Bam Not always.
It's a mixed bag.
I wouldn't be so keen to trust places that call themselves communist to be that. That's like taking North Korea's word that they're democratic.
America has more regulations then Denmark, but the US still has the strongest economy. Though, having the most wealth doesn't ensure the highest standard of living.
Depending on the service, a free market approach would be very bad.
For instance, military needs in Somalia are met by mercenaries, which we agree aren't ideal to say the least.
In the US, we have competing for profit prisons, which have contributed to a whole host of issues. The worst being the conflict of interest between making more profit and reducing recidivism.
Going all in with the market or government is short sighted. We have to take things on a case by case basis.
The problem of hunger isn't caused by eating meat, it's caused by waste at the store, and at home. If we stopped eating meat, then we would actually have LESS food to go around, because animals eat the inedible parts of the crops we produce, and use land that can't be used to grow crops. Ending hunger will require diverting food from waste points, to where its needed.
No the vast majority of the food fed to animals is completely edible to humans, so you are plainly wrong about that. And yes while food waste is major part of the problem it is still trumped by the food wasted to grow animals. These are easy facts to look up...
So what you are saying is more people need to starve to death so I can drive my porsche.
Don't feel bad :D No matter what you do those people will exist. Remember the Soviet Union? At the end most people didn't work, and the people themselves created the scarcity. Most of those hungry people are butt-scratchers from Africa and south Asia. You give them X amount of aid, they just breed and make more butt-scratchers, and then need even more.
You realize when times are good, poor people become price insensitive, inflation jumps, and then everyone is back to square one? Many people just have a low standard for themselves. The hungry people set their own level, the starvation is literally their creation. They have behavioral microevolution to do that. The real solution is to let 'em die off.
just being a devil's advocate here, but why should we aim to feed as many people as possible (aka produce more food than we need to feed the human population, which we already are doing- we produce enough food to feed 10 billion people already) when this can result in human overpopulation and occur at the expense of wildlife? I would say that the objective is not necessarily produce more food, but improve distribution and reduce food waste while minimizing impact on wildlife (which veganism does)
if the population surges to the point where no matter what we aren't growing enough food to feed them, then one could say humans are reaching the earth's carrying capacity. would it be ecologically responsible to maximize everything and allow the human population to grow to 10 billion, 15 billion or even more, instead of trying to reduce or at least maintain its current size?
Typically, as others are stating above, overpopulation tracks with want, and population growth declines with plenty. People who are well fed--generally speaking--spend their time on things other than reproducing, the purpose of which is, in conditions of want, to create numerous offspring to grow food to feed one's family or numerous offspring to work to create capital to feed one's family. Less privation means lesser need for multiple offspring.
For sure. Works the same for a lot of animals, despite what people think. The more you starve/kill coyotes, the more they reproduce. Before its about to die, a tree will produce a whole lot of seeds to be dropped in the ground. Why wouldn't that apply to humans as well. Its an organism's lineage survival instinct. Or something like that...
We definitly ought to reorganise the way we distribute food. A good alternative is buying local whatever grows locally.
Actually, humans do not practice semelparity like trees and fish (reproduce a ton right before dying). also, some areas have been desertified and degraded to the point where they cannot grow food locally and rely on imports
I would not attribute less reproduction to being well fed. It is far more likely that financial security (and being well fed is a result of this security) has way more to do with how many children one has, because generally people who are well off have better access to safe sex education, condoms and birth control
This is more of an argument for socialism.
It's really convenient that you ignore grass-fed animal products and leave it out of your video. Because if you didn't, you would actually realize that grass-fed dairy, eggs & meat would be the most sustainable source of food since humans cannot eat grass.
2:17 -- Do you think calling meat, dairy, and egg eaters "idiots" helps your vegan cause? It doesn't. This is an ad hominem attack. And this is why you give vegans & vegetarian bad stigma.
2:35 -- Not all humans can thrive on a vegan or vegetarian diet. If you don't want to accept that then you're clearly biased. Some people need animal protein & 80% of vegans go back to eating meat for a reason. And even if *you* can eat a vegan diet, a vegan diet over generations can be detrimental. Notice there are no multi-generational vegans. My theory as to why is because of natural selection. But even if my theory is wrong, the point is that you need to provide evidence of healthy multi-generational vegans. And if you can't do that, then to go vegan is a risk not worth taking if you actually care about the health of future generations. And if you don't plan on having kids and don't care about future generations then don't try to talk to me about ethics, because you do not have any.
2:52 -- No we are not that island because there are so many factors you are not taking into account like grass-fed animals for example. On your little island you assume there is *no* such thing as grass-fed animals because it would be inconvenient for you to consider that. Does most meat & dairy come from non-grass fed animals? Yes. The solution is to advocate for more grass-fed animal products. You are fighting the wrong cause.
3:31 -- We aren't just going to starve animals all of a sudden and feed people on the other side of the world just out of the kindness of our hearts. If animals go away then the grains go away. That's how it works. And most of these vegan organizations don't think about this but the most of the soy fed to livestock is the soy leftover from soybean oil production. So if it weren't sold to farmers then it would end up in landfills.
3:42 -- A vegan diet uses 1/8th as much land as the baseline diet? What is the baseline diet? When you flash a snapshot of the title of a study for 3 seconds on the screen do you really expect people to take your word and know what you're saying?
3:56 -- Actually there's more types of land that is *NOT* suitable for crop production, but *IS* suitable for grazing livestock.
5:25-5:46 -- You just debunked your own video. And you didn't even refute any of those arguments you just made against your case.
5:50 -- Your argument here is that if there were no factory farmed grain-fed animals, land prices would go down and crop prices would go down. This is not an argument for veganism, it's an argument against factory farms. Veganism is better than factory farms, but not optimal for land use, sustainability, humanity, or even the animals. Grass-fed livestock *is* optimal. It's the most sustainable form of farming right now. More sustainable than any kind of crop farming. And on top of that, it kills less animals to eat grass-fed dairy/eggs or even meat, than to eat vegetables fruits or grains. I hope you realize the amount of bugs "murdered" and small animals killed when pesticides are sprayed all over them and when the plants are being harvested and then transported. I would also argue that humane dairy/egg/meat farms *give* animals the opportunity at life who would not have an opportunity at life *at all* if everyone were vegan. And as for eggs & dairy, the chickens & cows do not even have to be slaughtered for their eggs or milk despite your misinformation about the industries.
7:25 -- That statement you quoted is also false because he conveniently ignores sustainable farming of animal products like grass-fed livestock.
Anna Spears lmao she actually did it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So all the milking cows and laying hens end up living in a sanctuary when their production declines? At least in my country, the cows live like 4-5 years of constant insemination and calf-taking away, and free "happy" chickens complete their productive life after like 2 years and end up either in some minor farm (which doesn't need high egg production) or given away. I don't know how is that an "opportunity at life"...
Do you have any data or website about grass fed efficiency (not sustainability)? I mean, can it feed the world (or at least a country)?
Anna: there is no nutrient one gets from meat that cannot be obtained from healthier, plant-based sources. So i fail to see reason to believe your claim that not everyone can go vegan. Do you have evidence to support this?
Anna Spears I don't get it, why can't some people be vegan?
emailjwr Some people actually claim that they got ill while eating a plant-based diet...although they rarely give details about what they were eating, just say that they tried everything, at least on the internet.
Just now turning towards veganism with the help of you and other UA-camrs opening my eyes. Thank you! Scared to tell my friends, but I've got some ammunition for a good debate if necessary. My mom will be the hardest to tell, she's the kind of person who you give solid facts to yet will still ignore the truth.
I'm thinking about going mafism, so eat everything except mammalian meat.
Just remember that you are doing this for you, not anybody else. Others can have their opinions and judge you behind closed doors but ultimately it's your decision, you are helping yourself. It doesn't affect anyone except you! (:
Tay The Beast that's great! start practicing for when you get the "where do you get your protein?" questions lol. just remember all the reasons why you turned to veganism in the first place and you'll see that any backlash won't be a big deal at all.
Avery Modrell how about for the animals? lol
Avery Modrell Thank you, and you're right. It's up to me to dictate my life ultimately. In about a year when I go off to college it'll be that much easier. Thank you.
mic I love u r channel man I don't believe in god but if I did I would probably say something like ur doing gods work
But most vegans are aethists...... Veganism conflicts with most religions.... So maybe he's doing Satan's work
No religion requires to eat animals. You can believe in them and practice veganism. Those things aren't incompatible.
hasn't even been out for a minute and already has a dislike lol
lol I was wondering about that random instant dislike. Someone who is looking up world hunger realized I am vegan and got miffed? Or maybe hate-ification squad?
Anna Spears.
Jason Albano Ⓥ HAHAHAHA so true!! I bet she's in the process of writing out a long-winded response to "debunk" Mic as we speak.
Carbs Are Happiness And her argument probably relies on grass fed beef or backyard chickens, like 99% for sure
Carbs Are Happiness See? Told you so
The other disturbing thing to me is thinking about how much land goes into growing tobacco, hops for beer, grapes for wine and the like...all luxury items that aren't healthy for you. How much more food could we grow if we used this land for actual food for people??
Human nature
So true, many developing countries are exploited by their governments into growing cash crops to sell to the west rather than produce foods that could sustain their starving countries.
grapes are a healthy fruit, let's keep them ,
Not nearly as much as what is grown to feed cattle. Yes hops and grapes are far greater sustainable crops. Alcohol in moderation is fine, and even health promoting when it comes to quality wine as I like to say. I'm French so I can tell you when winery is part of the culture, it doesn't mean alcoholism is.
une francaise!!
I just don't understand how people can still try to argue against veganism after seeing facts and statistics like this...
VicariouslyVegan some people would literally rather watch the whole food burn in resource wars than question their own system of believes. it's like trying to argue with a flat-earther that the Earth is indeed round-ish: they will fight you until you decide that it's not worth to waste your breath anymore.
still, sometimes all you need to do is plant a seed of doubt in a meat eater's head and that might be enough to get them to open their eyes.
Camila Stefanie seems more like trying to convince globe believers as it is the default position. it makes more sense for your analogy. gravity! is equivalent to protein!
eating animals is their religion and their believe is that it has to be this way.
facts do not matter for them.
You just need to sow the seeds of doubt and truth.
IQ encodoc: That's a true concept, IQ, and it also applies to vegans and anyone else, for that matter. I really enjoy the wikipedia 'list of cognitive biases'. The limitations of the human mind are amazing, but there are solutions to overcome bias and exploit it.
It's wise to use an argument which could exploit the bias of meat eaters to get them to change. I personally am switching because of nagging borderline cholesterol and want to lose weight.
Right or wrong, there are very strong reasons. Habit, tradition, and bias, among others. Effective strategies must be developed to overcome these, though. Persuasion can be very powerful.
Just want to point out that if animals were no longer raised for food then the government subsidies (something like 63% of subsidy money) could then go towards grain (some already does but as you said it's fed to animals) and vegetables (which currently only gets 1%). The actual numbers are in the documentary What The Health. Highly recommend. Anyway if the subsidies went away from animals and towards plants then everything would be much more affordable and everyone could eat well.
Love your videos BTW. :) Thanks for your work.
I have to point this fact out so often and noone gets this. Our socialist government here funds dairy and flesh industy and i still hear SJW vegans blame capitalism.
TheNewHope IsHere what is sjw?
social justice warriors ... 3rd wave feminists .... liberal cucks ... people that use the word male priviledge ... socialist leftists .... people with no ability to reason or logic ...you get the idea
sjw stands for social justice warrior, an activist pushing women's rights, minorities rights, and minority religion rights. Racists and woman-haters despise social justice warriors.
TheNewHope IsHere I'm not sure I do get the idea. .... sounds to me like you're OK with people who stand up for animals but not those who stand up for anything else.
Keep fighting the good fight, vegan brothers and sisters
I like your animation
The microcosm island model is such a brilliant way to communicate the impacts on world hunger and the use of land and resources required to feed the world's population. Currently the sheer scale of food distribution issues are difficult to comprehend. A lot of us don't get to see the sheer amount of land taken up to raise and feed domesticated animals. Thanks for sharing his thesis.