Very fair review! I have a 44mm watch 6 coming today. I wanted it for some basic tracking on the bike which seems like it will do just that. I got it for $250 with 2 bands after discounts/rewards which I think is a fair price especially considering Samsung's trade in program. Great video as always!
I bought the watch 6 on Sunday and I absolutely love this watch. I have a Garmin venu 3 that I will be returning. My heart rate is exactly the same on both watches. I went on a lengthy walk with both watches and got almost identical tracking. ECG readings are very similar. I'm just not seeing the inaccuracies of the galaxy watch that your getting. This watch is awesome for me at least. A couple of my coworkers have this watch and some of my family has it and everyone loves it.
hi , what do you think about Samsung Galaxy 6 40mm? Is it worth buying? Are its health and sports sensors working properly? I would be grateful if you could answer me because I want to buy sooner and if there is any problem or point, tell me
@alirezazi I just wonder if the 40 mm would be too small. I originally bought the 44mm and returned it and got the 47 mm classic. I think the 40mm also has a smaller battery 300 mAh vs 425 mAh. Even the 425 mAh battery on mine will only last 2 days on a charge. Which really doesn't bother me. Also I will say I had the Garmin vivoactive 5 and that was 42mm and it looked tiny on my wrist. Just some things to think about.
@paulkline3011 Thank you, I agree with your opinion, but since my wrist is 17 cm and delicate, I think the size 44 and 47 mm is too big for my hand. And I don't want the watch to be bulky on my wrist
@alirezazi did you find one that wasn't too bulky? I have the Samsung galaxy watch 42mm that came out in 2019. I'm wanting to upgrade but can't find a Samsung watch that is the right size the 42mm is perfect for my wrist it's not to bulky or small
You are the only reviewer worth watching when it comes to watches, because all others just review them as they review phones and talk only about their features, forgetting that the most important thing to review in a sports watch is their accuracy. So I have subscribed to you. On that note it would be really awesome if you could review the recently released Oneplus Watch 2. It is considerably more affordable, and I am really interested in seeing how much a cheaper watch can pull off in terms of accuracy, that one might consider buying it. This is especially considering Oneplus is known for many years to come very close to matching the performance of top tier phones of top brands at a much more affordable prices.
GREAT review as usual. Yours is a definitive test of these metrics and I would not buy one of these devices without watching as the consumer doesn't really have the tools at their disposal to accurately assess these parameters. You are a great resource for these devices and to help us to make an informed decision to purchase.
@@Dcrainmaker It should perhaps also be said that the precision of HR and GPS also depends very much on the app used and power mode, depending on how often it queries the values and how power-efficiently it works.
@@raziel8321 I always use the default/built-in app when testing devices, at full detail/power levels. If Samsung can't figure that out, that's on Samsung.
@@Dcrainmaker However, there is a big difference between a feature fitness watch and a multitasking OS smartwatch. The software of the smartwatch is flexible and interchangeable. It is even the main application. The code determines how often sensors are queried. There is also no standard app, as Samsung and Google alone have installed their own individual apps and the watches are explicitly designed so that everyone can install their own software. Samsung and Google only provide the minimal basic functions. In any case, this means there are differences in precision, whether you want to test it or not... I think you should perhaps treat these watches more like a computer than a sports watch. It's actually very simple. And I think you know that a Wear OS or Apple Watch is technically designed very differently to a Polar, Garmin, Suunto or similar. It's not important whether Apple does it better in some way, we're only talking about the Galaxy Watch. I don't have anything against your video, it's well done, detailed... everything's good. Except for one point. It should be clear that the watch isn't really being tested here, only the Samsung health app is being tested. The Galaxy Watch as a Wear OS watch has to be viewed like a Windows computer. It's not an explicit sports watch, it's a system that was designed to run various apps. Smart home, fitness, car remote, entertainment, info, PIM, whatever.... And the Health app from Samsung is just an arbitrary, interchangeable app that is installed as part of the basic equipment. And you can use any other app you want. You surely know how these watches work. You have the hardware driver for the sensor, and the Wear OS API on top of that. And then various apps run on Wear OS itself, which query the hardware according to their individual programming. There is no single ultimate data result for all apps from the sensor. Each software can determine for itself how high the data refresh rate is. The measuring interval, What the averaging time is. Which calculation algorithm is used to evaluate. Every app can controll the sensors individual. The user can also set many additional settings in the watch settings. For example, forcing full GNNS for all apps. And at the end of the day, it's very simple. On the same watch, with the same sensor, different apps... Samsung Health, Google Fit, Cardiogram, Nike, Fitbit, Strava, TrainingPeaks, Sleep On, Komoot, or whatever you install.... deliver different results. Are of varying accuracy. You can use Samsung Health and Google Fit in parallel on the Galaxy watch, for the same training, and you will find that both will deliver different data. Because each app queries the watch's hardware slightly differently. It has been programmed differently. Then maybe it shows a run with 12,500 steps and an average HR rate of 120, and Google Fit shows 11,900 steps with HR 128.... And such differences simply exist. In the same way, different apps can interfere with each other. And as a multitasking OS, there are always several programs running in the background. So how do you want to test the sensor seriously here? If you test on the Galaxy Watch with Health and on the Pixel Watch with Fitbit or Google Fit, you will have different values simply because the apps are different. Google Fit on the Galaxy will also give different values than Health. You have to compare the hardware with the same app. And so your video is OK, but it doesn't test the watch as a whole, it tests primarily the function of a separate app. And to say the watch is bad just doesn't work on this basis. And at least, from my experience, I don't have any more mystery drops, lost or grossly incorrect data on my Galaxy Watch than on my Garmin. Of course, the data differ slightly in their value, but the trend is always parallel.
@@raziel8321 What on earth are you talking about? It's a Samsung watch, and there's very much a Samsung main app to track workouts (I literally show it in the thumbnail, and a million times in this video). And a Samsung app to export workouts. Likewise, as for a 'feature fitness watch' vs a 'multitasking OS smartwatch' again, that makes no sense. It's not a problem for Apple to create an accurate watch. Nor a problem for Google to do it on the Pixel Watch. This is bad underlying data from Samsung's optical HR sensor. Pure and simple. A 3rd party app doesn't magically make crappy HR sensor data better. It can try and guesstimate, but that's just that - garbage in, garbage out.
Great video as always. I returned the Watch 6 Classic btw, I am back to using my Watch 3. I like it much better (call me crazy lol ) I did not like the Watch 6 at all It was not much faster at all and battery was horrendous. The texting didn't work right. Any image in a text was cutoff and couldn't be opened. I was majorly disappointed. After watching this btw, makes me glad I returned the classic 6 and kept my Watch 3. I use it for simple basic features and I am happy with it. If I wanted a smart watch that worked like the way it was suppose too, I would not get a Samsung watch. Others are much better like you said
About the battery life: It will suck the first couple of days, but then after it will get out of the "Learning your usage patterns..." phase, your battery life should jump up close to the time they advertise.
Samsung has let its customers down. After seeing the quantied scientist's review and more reviews related to the classic 6, there's nothing major that's changed. I was counting on that watch this year since I've been waiting for a good and accurate watch for 2 years now. All I can say is I have to wait yet another year.
The only accurate watch you will get is a normal wrist watch. None of them 100% accurate. If you need a 1 single scientist to tell you thats asahme. Also bear in mind Samsung have their hand in genuine medical technology
If you need it to be from Samsung, I think you'll be waiting longer than that. They have proven that they don't care. My guess is that they have done some market research and found it doesn't matter for them. That's the only explanation I can think of. With the current state of wearable tech, there isn't any reason for it to be this inaccurate other than them not caring that it's inaccurate.
Yeah it sucks that they fail out of the gate everytime. I do feel that my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro got better since launch, but still not as good as my Huawei GT3, and just not good enough. Pixel Watch 2 is the great hope. If that fails, I may have to go Apple for my personal phone (got one of their phones for work and just prefer Samsung / Android).
Thanks Ray for a great review as usual. According to Samsung watch groups in FB the users seem to care more about watch faces than features or accuracy 😀
@Dcrainmaker It's actually very simple. And I think you know that a Wear OS or Apple Watch is technically designed very differently to a Polar, Garmin, Suunto or similar. It's not important whether Apple does it better in some way, we're only talking about the Galaxy Watch. I don't have anything against your video, it's well done, detailed... everything's good. Except for one point. It should be clear that the watch isn't really being tested here, only the Samsung health app is being tested. The Galaxy Watch as a Wear OS watch has to be viewed like a Windows computer. It's not an explicit sports watch, it's a system that was designed to run various apps. Smart home, fitness, car remote, entertainment, info, PIM, whatever.... And the Health app from Samsung is just an arbitrary, interchangeable app that is installed as part of the basic equipment. And you can use any other app you want. You surely know how these watches work. You have the hardware driver for the sensor, and the Wear OS API on top of that. And then various apps run on Wear OS itself, which query the hardware according to their individual programming. There is no single ultimate data result for all apps from the sensor. Each software can determine for itself how high the data refresh rate is. The measuring interval, What the averaging time is. Which calculation algorithm is used to evaluate. Every app can controll the sensors individual differently.The user can also set many additional settings in the watch settings. For example, forcing full GNNS for all apps. And at the end of the day, it's very simple. On the same watch, with the same sensor, different apps... Samsung Health, Google Fit, Cardiogram, Nike, Fitbit, Strava, TrainingPeaks, Sleep On, Komoot, or whatever you install.... deliver different results. Are of varying accuracy. You can use Samsung Health and Google Fit in parallel on the Galaxy watch, for the same training, and you will find that both will deliver different data. Because each app queries the watch's hardware slightly differently. It has been programmed differently. Then maybe health shows a run with 12,500 steps and an average HR rate of 120, and Google Fit shows 11,900 steps with HR 128.... And such differences simply exist. In the same way, different apps can interfere with each other. And as a multitasking OS, there are always several programs running in the background. So how do you want to test the sensor seriously here? If you test on the Galaxy Watch with Health and on the Pixel Watch with Fitbit or Google Fit, you will have different values simply because the apps are different. And maybe differences because hardware sensors additional. Google Fit on the Galaxy will also give different values than Health. You have to compare the hardware with the same app. And so your video is OK, but it doesn't test the watch as a whole, it tests primarily the function of one separate app. And to say the watch is bad just doesn't work on this basis. And at least, from my experience, I don't have any more mystery drops, lost or grossly incorrect data on my Galaxy Watch than on my Garmin. Of course, the data differ slightly in their value, but the trend is always parallel. Compared to my garmin chestbelt.
Again, while I understand what you're trying to say - the simple reality is that's not actually how it works when it comes to the heart rate sensor on this watch, or any other watch for that matter. Samsung delivers the heart rate value *as-is* from the PPG sensor, with all of their processing built-in. You can't access raw PPG data on Samsung's watches, so an app can't get it "more accurate". They could try and make some other guesses and remove something they think is wrong, but that's not based on anything from the sensor, because again, they don't have raw PPG data. The same is true on the GPS side. Aside from either full fidelity data or not (which when you toggle it on in the Samsung Health app like I did, is the full extent of the data). Again, here's the exact API on WearOS to access this data: developer.android.com/health-and-fitness/guides/health-services/background-body-sensors Thus, the data from the native app is the highest resolution data available. Sure, an app can decide to apply other algorithms to it, but that's just an app guessing. Sometimes it guesses right, sometimes it guesses wrong. Most times, it just costs more battery and doesn't do anything. As for your steps example - that's factually untrue as well. Steps is steps, as provided by the same Health API's as above. It's recorded by the OS and available to all apps equally via WearOS. This is true of every watch out there.
@@Dcrainmaker Yes and no. What you call, Software decided whether something is wrong and left out.... that's the elementary point for everything. In measurement technology, a sensor delivers its data. The same goes for the Samsung HR sensor. like you say. Samsung provides basic values for the apps via the hardware processing of the sensor. Every sensor in the world has a hardware evaluation so that usable data can be generated in the first place for following Software. in the next step., the app has to decide how these data are processed. Everything revolves around how this data is evaluated, in software. In the software you set filters. Define cut out points. You set data refresh rates. You set time-based interpolation. You set correction factors. Every sensor has fluctuations. That's absolutely normal. I've been working with things like this for 25 years. But the software itself is the key. In measurement technology, the key to dynamic measurements (such as HR) is the interpretation of the data. The core element where you then determine how this data is to be interpreted. To get clean values for the following mathematics. And that's why the app used is also crucial for the reliability of the data. Nobody who can think takes raw data 1:1. And yes, that's why another app can do "magic" and deliver better results. You underestimate how important the software itself is. There are even patents for it. You say steps are steps.... ok. my Watch 6 says 12103 in health and 9351 in Fit and 9480 in Nike.... Why? Because the software evaluates things differently. And in addition, you have 2 methods for steps. take the ready interpretation from the API, or take the data from the G sensors to interpret your own steps.
@@raziel8321 Yes, everything you say is true about filters/etc. But no apps are doing that. They're taking the data as-is. Only a handful of medical apps can access the raw PPG data, if they have special agreements with Samsung. Thus, I'd encourage you to look out there, and see if you can find a single app that shows different HR data for the exact same workout, between apps.
Best review yet of the watch 6 (haven't watched Desfit yet which I'm sure will be as good). Particularly impressed that you tested the watch in NL and DE and looks like CH too! That's serious dedication. I use a Garmin Fenix 6 pro for tracking my running and cycling and I've a Samsung Watch 4 44mm which I use for measuring my BP and body composition (I'm in EU and have a Samsung Galaxy phone). For fun I wore both watches for a 10k run this evening and the Samsung numbers were laughable. Garmin recorded 10.3k and Sammy had 10.07k but the heart rate and route were awful.The only semi useful numbers are the running metrics on the Samsung. I've no idea how accurate they are but it showed Great on 4 metrics and Good on 2, Flight time and Vertical. Even if accurate, no idea how to use that data. Interesting no one ever talks about the Samsung running metrics probably because they're garbage.
I have a Fenix 7 that I also ran with the 6 Classic with the other day. The pace on the Samsung is wild, ranging from 2:50/km to 7:30/km while the Fenix is staying more or less constant at 5:10/km. I also tested the Asymmetry metric, by limp-running for like 100m, the watch didn't pick up on it at all and kept saying I'm in perfect balance. So yea, I trust the Garmin running metrics like ground contact and vertical ratio way more than the Samsungs, whos numbers are quite a bit lower than the Garmin's too, which would according to the Garmin time ranges, make me a pro runner which I'm not.
I've been using Samsung watches including my GW5P and GW6C. Samsung really needs to improve their shit man. No reason for it not to be top tier, for the price we pay.
I've heard mention of insane battery usage for sleep in several videos now. I have constant heart rate monitor and spO2 turned on, and for me an 8 hour nap with sleep mode turned on uses about 10%. I wonder what's causing the huge discrepancy.
@@wasimboliya Google is a better bet than me on that point. After the initial period when I kept it on 24/7, I started turning it off at night and just put it on the charger for a bit now and then when it's convenient, so it's rarely below 30% or above 80% for me. My watch is now a year old, at 74% battery, and it says 26 hours remaining. If that's any help.
"It could be your cup of animal" 😀Perhaps they'll finally add the sloth. As long as people still buy Galaxy Watches perhaps there's little incentive to upgrade the accuracy. I'm sure they analyze what generates sales volume. Samsung also doesn't seem to open up their apps to external sensors, which would offer a workaround for those that enjoy the rest of the smartwatch features and style that Samsung offers.
Yeah, I'm done. When you said the battery life was not good. Also, in these reviews why are you not addressing what most people will use these watches for texting and other phone features on your wrist like talking etc.
More accurately. It says in depth review.... So I would expect it to cover everything about the watch in depth. And if you want to split hairs, accuracy could also mean voice to text accuracy among other things.
Excellent video! On the GPS test you showed that the Samsung is cutting corners, I see that on my Galaxy Watch 4 Classic as well and on my Galaxy S20 5G phone. In your case did that give you different distances from the other watches? My Samsung distance is always less than what my bike computer shows.
It should perhaps also be said that the precision of HR and GPS also depends very much on the app used and power mode, depending on how often it queries the values and how power-efficiently it works.
Good to know that I wouldn't be able to use ECG or get irregular heart rate notifications with my Google phone! That information is not widely available, nor would you think it would be limited to Samsung phones only when I have an Android
Apple watch flagship is £800 plus 15% Apr. not £320 Samsung Watch 6. The Coros software I found horrendously difficult to navigate returned the £120 watch within a week. Difficult to buy a watch that does everything well, 3 years interest free on their products does it for me
My samsung active 2 has been pretty accurate with the HR. I use a Polar H9 chest strap for running which is over 99% accurate. The samsung has some variance starting off when I run but once I get going, it's within 2-5 bpm. Sometimes it can vary wildly by 20bpm but that's not common.
It was the same for me. But now, with the Watch6, it is totally off! It measure with IR instead of the green light, but it also doesnt catch the varations, so I think it calculates the bpm differently with this new version.
@@Rissni that's really unfortunate since I was looking at the watch6. I might just switch to the Apple ecosystem since they have the most accurate sensors sadly.
Well, good thing i didn't trade my gw4 lte for the 6. If there could be some kind of doubt about it, after watching your video, there's absolutely no doubt now. I'd have to give my gw4 lte plus about 275€ to get... the same thing. No thanks😄. Btw, thanks for being one of the few that say things as they really are. Cheers✌️
Sadly I think mine is going back. One of my BIGGEST issues is how Samsung keeps getting close, but blowing the basics, like GPS. Samsung Health is also an absolute mess. The only thing preventing me from dumping Apple is the watch.
Can you comment on the fall detection and sos functions. I REALLY need these too work. I currently have a warch 5 pro and can't get them to work. I recently sent it (2nd time). 1st time they claimed to have replaced some parts and stated everything worked. 2nd time they did no repair and stated nothing was wrong with the warch. Samsung will NOT give me details about the repair, or answer questions I sent with the watch when it went in for repairs. When I call the support number, most often we repeat my previous call. It always takes at least 2 hours and I don't get a solution for my issues. Any advice?
No discussion of run dynamics AT All? And body comp is not an health and fitness update, temp sensor not an update? Really? And although he doesn't find improvement over time, I have, finding it matches my GarminVenu2 for HR after a week or two. GPS get better after an update or two. I'm not a pro, though😊. Apple is not an option for me.
I've covered the running efficiency metrics in the past, but the challenge is they don't write any data to an exportable file, so it's virtually impossible to validate. Body Comp has been there since previous version, and temp sensor is actually not new either - also there in previous version.
Great review as always. I currently have a Garmin Fenix 6 and thinking of upgrading, but the new Garmin watches are really expensive in Australia, so considering a Samsung Galaxy 6, as I already have the Samsung phone etc. I am worried about the inaccurate heart rate sensor, as I rely a lot on this being accurate. I currently use my Garmin with the Garmin chest strap, to get a better accuracy. Do you know if you can pair an external chest strap to the Samsung Galaxy 6 for a better accuracy when training?
IM USING GW5 PRO, as far as i know it's the same HR sensor. Last run: Garmin avg HR 147, Samsung 161. Max: Garmin: 160, Samsung:171. Not worth it for the purpose of tracing activities. As a smart watch is ok. BUT not even close to Apple Watches :(
Do you have any information on HR broadcast feature on the Samsung Galaxy wearables? There seems to be an 3rd party app for that but it doesn't work with Garmin or Wahoo bike computers. Would be great if both Samsung and Apple had that. Can you ask both companies about that feature and why it's not available when you have a chance?
Other reviewers have observed a huge difference in accuracy between the normal edition and the classic edition (classic being worse). Have you noticed anything like that? In the graphs were both are compared they both drop the ball sometimes.
They were both equally sucky. However, one thing that likely shifts towards classic being worse (especially 47mm) is that size and weight have always played a large factor in accuracy. The heavier a watch is, the more it bounces. Add to that, the lug desig on the Classic while very pretty, it's actually super great for minimizing light leakage (the other arch nemisis of optical HR sensors).
@Dcrainmaker my HR on my watch keeps saying 30 at rest, I don't think this is accurate, what are your thoughts? I've had my heart checked out prior to this watch and it was fine
Forget the 6 - the 5 pro is much better - battery life is amazing and the fitness apps are equally as accurate - get over the physical bezel - I have prev models with the bezel and hardly ever used - the digital bezel in the 5 pro works very well
The physical bezel is WAY too loose and not enough resistance. I was expecting some very positive clicks per input, but it isn't there at all. It's a lot like a mushy mouse wheel that's been worn down, which explains the overshooting/skipping of tiles. It can easily get nudged by a sleeve cuff and the face will be on some random tile when you bring up the watch. T-shirts only for this watch.
Was gonna buy a 6 classic to match to my fold 5. But being a pro athlete I need accurate HR and O2 levels and ECG and blood glucose. If this is not accurate then I wont bother. I also have an iphone so will look at the ultra2
Maybe the same year as Linux on the desktop xD Ordered but know not to expect too much from accuracy. Long as it gives me a reasonable picture of walking fast enough to keep my heart pumping, I guess it'll do.
ouch. My 6 classic is coming on Saturday and I was hoping for workout accuracy. Think I should send it back and try a Garmin? Mostly I want accurate heart rate and was hoping the new watch would narrow down my HR zones so I don't have to guess them. Wonder what the best affordable workout watch is ATM?
LOL. UPS lost the shipment and I just cancelled the order. I tried a $400 (refurbished) nice Garmin but hated the non-touch interface and limited features. I may try the new Pixel now, meanwhile I'm still using my Galaxy watch 3 but the HR monitor really stinks while running or even just fast walking. It's often way high, jumping from 130 down to 88 in the space of a few seconds when I am just walking fast. The 88 is the accurate measurement, tested by hand.@@Ari_3000
Hey man I wanted to ask a question about a product you've used. I know the wahoo kikr is incompatible with the canyon ultimate rim brake version, but is the tacx neo 2t compatible with the ultimate?
Thank you. Samsung is my last watch for this very reason. After 6 tries, lots of money behind them, and many years I have now given up on them. Going for a run, working your butt off to get good time, putting in a lot of effort to find out the watch got nothing is extremely disappointing. Also going to run with friends and you are the only one not posting to strava, or the one with redicilously fast times, you become the laughing stock. So this is the news: Samsung fell to fifth place and ended the fourth quarter with a 35% decline. No surprize. Making a watch that dont keep time, or a car that dont move, or a sports watch that cant record training is major failure for any company.
I got the GW4 Classic from Amazon Renewed for $150. Debating whether to get the GW6 for the improved battery, memory, etc. With trade in and discount i can get the 44mm for around $60. Should i pull the trigger? I'll miss it but can do without the rotating bezel .
Not surprised by these findings at all. I have been a Garmin user for years and currently have an Epix 2. Im typing this on my Fold 5 wearing the new watch classic 6. The watch is underwhelming the same as the watch 5 pro sitting on my desk. I wind up using the Samsung for lte connection and smart alerts and the Garmin for anything fitness and health related. My watch 5 pro would tell me i was afib 50% of the readings.....steps count, heart rate, gps tracking are all so unreliable. The only reason i got the 6 classic was the look, and well the bezel. Its a decent smart watch, not a health or fitness tracker.
Are you sure you're following the instructions for taking an ECG measurement to the letter? Things that I do to get the best measurement possible: 1. Hold my arms up in the air a bit so that my armpits are open 2. Make sure the finger is only touching the button. You don't want it to touch the arm or the watch's metal body. 3. Sit down and try to stay calm and relaxed while the measuring is in progress. 4. If the skin at the tip of your finger, or under the watch is dry, wet it up just a bit to improve conductivity and thus improve the signal strength.
@@marekslemensky4531 A bit condescending, no? I'm sure they can read the manual and maybe did. Instead, could it be that Samsung have released yet another device that's a bit of a lemon?
I just packed my watch 6 and sent it back to return, it is baffling to see Samsung get on stage and advertise such an inaccurate piece of hardware, I was seeing consistent gaps of over 20 BPM for my workouts. Insane.
Newbie Q...Can you confidently wear these in the SHOWER and they'll be totally Fine with it?...I've got NO need or want for ANY of the Sport garb...but need all the Heart stuff
Friends, what do you think about Samsung Galaxy 6 40mm? Is it worth buying? Are its health and sports sensors working properly? I would be grateful if you could answer me because I want to buy sooner and if there is any problem or point, tell me...
@Dcrainmaker thank you, my friend🩵 ,I didn't have a smart watch until now, and I was planning to buy Galaxy Watch 6, but with these problems, I had doubts about buying it, and I don't know if I should buy it or not...
I just purchased my Galaxy 6 watch and the strap design is super upsetting as it has fallen off at least once a day for the last week. Also wondering if anyone knows if you can change the target distance in track mode to less than 1 km? Would love to set it to 400m, 600m etc.
I look forward to it every time, but I can't trust the data from the Galaxy Watch. There is no reason to believe any more. The only smartwatch is the Apple Watch. ;(
Hi DC, can you help please? I am overweight, looking to restart the gym and walking/hiking in the new year. Using a samsung z fold 4. Previously had an apple smart watch and a garmin fenix. Was considering this galaxy watch but as ever, it seems to be fairly poor for accuracy, esp gps. I know all watches have pros and cons, but for someone who is not an athlete, I want to track and record all activity and progress over time of body/fitness metrics. Garmin currently has way too many models for me to narrow it down, and I believe the apple watch is best when paired with an iphone... with that being said, given I want a watch to track via gps my hikes, record and track the usual body fitness metrics (dont need maps or golf etc) and be fairly accurate, which garmin would you suggest, or at least to narrow it down to a couple of models...I would just go all out and get the epix pro 2 knowing that covers absolutely everything, but at £1000 that's out of the question...Thanks if you manage to see this message and give me your quick thoughts
Hi, just a thought, Samsung Health has coaching programs that work with the watch and that are specifically geared to fit beginners. I saw it in another review. The main downside of the Samsung Watch seems to be the battery life.
In regards to heart rate accuracy for watches I wonder whether size has to do with it. Ive gone from a 46mm fr255 with the new sensor to a (secondhand) 42mm fenix 6s pro with the older sensor and noticed the data is much more consistent (no drops and numbers in line with effort). Could that be because i have small wrists and the 6s is a better and tighter fit?
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Incorrect. The size matters as the fit matters very much. If your watch is too big for your wrist then the sensors aren't located correctly or consistently. As well the heavier the watch is the more it will shift around during motion, again reducing the accuracy. Try not to answer a question so confidently if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Overpriced trash watches, just like their phones tbh. But their watches will give you false data. I recommand the Huawei GT3Pro Watch. Looks good, cheap and accurate sensors.
The exact same sensors placed the exact same way with the exact same software can be more accurate? Also they havn't upgraded the battery capacity, it's quite literally just over half of the 5 pro's capacity and doesn't even have the pro's GPS features. seems that the 6 classic is the 4 classics's successor and not the 5 pro's. perhaps the 7 will the the 5 pro's successor.
To be fair, even the same exact sensors can have dramatically different accuracy by changing either firmware levels or power draw. Also, they did change the mAh on the battery. Further, there’s clearly some sensor changes since they shifted to infrared for passive, which could be either hardware tweaked or power/algorithm changes with existing hardware.
And 5 hours is really just a best-case scenario. That assumes you take it right off the charger and don't do a lot with it in terms of notifications/etc...
Dude you are just the best at these. The honesty and direct communication is just great
Very fair review! I have a 44mm watch 6 coming today. I wanted it for some basic tracking on the bike which seems like it will do just that. I got it for $250 with 2 bands after discounts/rewards which I think is a fair price especially considering Samsung's trade in program. Great video as always!
My says expected August 11 since I ordered and the status never changed. Wondering if I'm gonna get it tomorrow
@@hubpakerxx I was supposed to get it yesterday, but UPS delayed it unfortunately. Out for delivery now! I hope you get yours soon!
Mine will arrive 2 more days
@novd4585 I hope its lost in transit
@@novd4585 Just got mine, it is beautiful!
I bought the watch 6 on Sunday and I absolutely love this watch. I have a Garmin venu 3 that I will be returning. My heart rate is exactly the same on both watches. I went on a lengthy walk with both watches and got almost identical tracking. ECG readings are very similar. I'm just not seeing the inaccuracies of the galaxy watch that your getting. This watch is awesome for me at least. A couple of my coworkers have this watch and some of my family has it and everyone loves it.
hi , what do you think about Samsung Galaxy 6 40mm? Is it worth buying? Are its health and sports sensors working properly? I would be grateful if you could answer me because I want to buy sooner and if there is any problem or point, tell me
@alirezazi I just wonder if the 40 mm would be too small. I originally bought the 44mm and returned it and got the 47 mm classic. I think the 40mm also has a smaller battery 300 mAh vs 425 mAh. Even the 425 mAh battery on mine will only last 2 days on a charge. Which really doesn't bother me. Also I will say I had the Garmin vivoactive 5 and that was 42mm and it looked tiny on my wrist. Just some things to think about.
@paulkline3011 Thank you, I agree with your opinion, but since my wrist is 17 cm and delicate, I think the size 44 and 47 mm is too big for my hand. And I don't want the watch to be bulky on my wrist
That makes sense. You could compromise and get the 43mm classic. 😆 the rotating bezel is actually pretty awesome.
@alirezazi did you find one that wasn't too bulky? I have the Samsung galaxy watch 42mm that came out in 2019. I'm wanting to upgrade but can't find a Samsung watch that is the right size the 42mm is perfect for my wrist it's not to bulky or small
You are the only reviewer worth watching when it comes to watches, because all others just review them as they review phones and talk only about their features, forgetting that the most important thing to review in a sports watch is their accuracy. So I have subscribed to you.
On that note it would be really awesome if you could review the recently released Oneplus Watch 2. It is considerably more affordable, and I am really interested in seeing how much a cheaper watch can pull off in terms of accuracy, that one might consider buying it. This is especially considering Oneplus is known for many years to come very close to matching the performance of top tier phones of top brands at a much more affordable prices.
My man holding on for his dear life at 0:22.
Appreciate the review
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GREAT review as usual. Yours is a definitive test of these metrics and I would not buy one of these devices without watching as the consumer doesn't really have the tools at their disposal to accurately assess these parameters. You are a great resource for these devices and to help us to make an informed decision to purchase.
Thanks!!!
@@Dcrainmaker It should perhaps also be said that the precision of HR and GPS also depends very much on the app used and power mode, depending on how often it queries the values and how power-efficiently it works.
@@raziel8321 I always use the default/built-in app when testing devices, at full detail/power levels. If Samsung can't figure that out, that's on Samsung.
@@Dcrainmaker
However, there is a big difference between a feature fitness watch and a multitasking OS smartwatch. The software of the smartwatch is flexible and interchangeable. It is even the main application. The code determines how often sensors are queried. There is also no standard app, as Samsung and Google alone have installed their own individual apps and the watches are explicitly designed so that everyone can install their own software. Samsung and Google only provide the minimal basic functions. In any case, this means there are differences in precision, whether you want to test it or not... I think you should perhaps treat these watches more like a computer than a sports watch.
It's actually very simple. And I think you know that a Wear OS or Apple Watch is technically designed very differently to a Polar, Garmin, Suunto or similar. It's not important whether Apple does it better in some way, we're only talking about the Galaxy Watch. I don't have anything against your video, it's well done, detailed... everything's good. Except for one point. It should be clear that the watch isn't really being tested here, only the Samsung health app is being tested.
The Galaxy Watch as a Wear OS watch has to be viewed like a Windows computer. It's not an explicit sports watch, it's a system that was designed to run various apps. Smart home, fitness, car remote, entertainment, info, PIM, whatever.... And the Health app from Samsung is just an arbitrary, interchangeable app that is installed as part of the basic equipment. And you can use any other app you want.
You surely know how these watches work. You have the hardware driver for the sensor, and the Wear OS API on top of that. And then various apps run on Wear OS itself, which query the hardware according to their individual programming. There is no single ultimate data result for all apps from the sensor. Each software can determine for itself how high the data refresh rate is. The measuring interval, What the averaging time is. Which calculation algorithm is used to evaluate. Every app can controll the sensors individual. The user can also set many additional settings in the watch settings. For example, forcing full GNNS for all apps.
And at the end of the day, it's very simple. On the same watch, with the same sensor, different apps... Samsung Health, Google Fit, Cardiogram, Nike, Fitbit, Strava, TrainingPeaks, Sleep On, Komoot, or whatever you install.... deliver different results. Are of varying accuracy. You can use Samsung Health and Google Fit in parallel on the Galaxy watch, for the same training, and you will find that both will deliver different data. Because each app queries the watch's hardware slightly differently. It has been programmed differently. Then maybe it shows a run with 12,500 steps and an average HR rate of 120, and Google Fit shows 11,900 steps with HR 128.... And such differences simply exist. In the same way, different apps can interfere with each other. And as a multitasking OS, there are always several programs running in the background.
So how do you want to test the sensor seriously here? If you test on the Galaxy Watch with Health and on the Pixel Watch with Fitbit or Google Fit, you will have different values simply because the apps are different. Google Fit on the Galaxy will also give different values than Health. You have to compare the hardware with the same app.
And so your video is OK, but it doesn't test the watch as a whole, it tests primarily the function of a separate app. And to say the watch is bad just doesn't work on this basis.
And at least, from my experience, I don't have any more mystery drops, lost or grossly incorrect data on my Galaxy Watch than on my Garmin. Of course, the data differ slightly in their value, but the trend is always parallel.
@@raziel8321 What on earth are you talking about? It's a Samsung watch, and there's very much a Samsung main app to track workouts (I literally show it in the thumbnail, and a million times in this video). And a Samsung app to export workouts. Likewise, as for a 'feature fitness watch' vs a 'multitasking OS smartwatch' again, that makes no sense. It's not a problem for Apple to create an accurate watch. Nor a problem for Google to do it on the Pixel Watch. This is bad underlying data from Samsung's optical HR sensor. Pure and simple. A 3rd party app doesn't magically make crappy HR sensor data better. It can try and guesstimate, but that's just that - garbage in, garbage out.
Great video as always.
I returned the Watch 6 Classic btw, I am back to using my Watch 3. I like it much better (call me crazy lol ) I did not like the Watch 6 at all It was not much faster at all and battery was horrendous. The texting didn't work right. Any image in a text was cutoff and couldn't be opened. I was majorly disappointed.
After watching this btw, makes me glad I returned the classic 6 and kept my Watch 3. I use it for simple basic features and I am happy with it. If I wanted a smart watch that worked like the way it was suppose too, I would not get a Samsung watch. Others are much better like you said
About the battery life: It will suck the first couple of days, but then after it will get out of the "Learning your usage patterns..." phase, your battery life should jump up close to the time they advertise.
Samsung has let its customers down. After seeing the quantied scientist's review and more reviews related to the classic 6, there's nothing major that's changed. I was counting on that watch this year since I've been waiting for a good and accurate watch for 2 years now. All I can say is I have to wait yet another year.
The only accurate watch you will get is a normal wrist watch. None of them 100% accurate. If you need a 1 single scientist to tell you thats asahme. Also bear in mind Samsung have their hand in genuine medical technology
If you need it to be from Samsung, I think you'll be waiting longer than that. They have proven that they don't care. My guess is that they have done some market research and found it doesn't matter for them. That's the only explanation I can think of. With the current state of wearable tech, there isn't any reason for it to be this inaccurate other than them not caring that it's inaccurate.
Yeah it sucks that they fail out of the gate everytime. I do feel that my Galaxy Watch 5 Pro got better since launch, but still not as good as my Huawei GT3, and just not good enough. Pixel Watch 2 is the great hope. If that fails, I may have to go Apple for my personal phone (got one of their phones for work and just prefer Samsung / Android).
I completely agree. What are they even doing at Samsung? This is not acceptable at all.
I'm a Samsung user, and I'm switching to Apple. Samsung just doesn't care.
Thanks Ray for a great review as usual. According to Samsung watch groups in FB the users seem to care more about watch faces than features or accuracy 😀
Everyone asumes those watches are spot on accurate. I thought so too until i saw this video.
@@livewallberg you can only assume that if you never had any accurate watch before. Mine GW was showing up to 170 during simple walk activity XD
@Dcrainmaker
It's actually very simple. And I think you know that a Wear OS or Apple Watch is technically designed very differently to a Polar, Garmin, Suunto or similar. It's not important whether Apple does it better in some way, we're only talking about the Galaxy Watch. I don't have anything against your video, it's well done, detailed... everything's good. Except for one point. It should be clear that the watch isn't really being tested here, only the Samsung health app is being tested.
The Galaxy Watch as a Wear OS watch has to be viewed like a Windows computer. It's not an explicit sports watch, it's a system that was designed to run various apps. Smart home, fitness, car remote, entertainment, info, PIM, whatever.... And the Health app from Samsung is just an arbitrary, interchangeable app that is installed as part of the basic equipment. And you can use any other app you want.
You surely know how these watches work. You have the hardware driver for the sensor, and the Wear OS API on top of that. And then various apps run on Wear OS itself, which query the hardware according to their individual programming. There is no single ultimate data result for all apps from the sensor. Each software can determine for itself how high the data refresh rate is. The measuring interval, What the averaging time is. Which calculation algorithm is used to evaluate. Every app can controll the sensors individual differently.The user can also set many additional settings in the watch settings. For example, forcing full GNNS for all apps.
And at the end of the day, it's very simple. On the same watch, with the same sensor, different apps... Samsung Health, Google Fit, Cardiogram, Nike, Fitbit, Strava, TrainingPeaks, Sleep On, Komoot, or whatever you install.... deliver different results. Are of varying accuracy. You can use Samsung Health and Google Fit in parallel on the Galaxy watch, for the same training, and you will find that both will deliver different data. Because each app queries the watch's hardware slightly differently. It has been programmed differently. Then maybe health shows a run with 12,500 steps and an average HR rate of 120, and Google Fit shows 11,900 steps with HR 128.... And such differences simply exist. In the same way, different apps can interfere with each other. And as a multitasking OS, there are always several programs running in the background.
So how do you want to test the sensor seriously here? If you test on the Galaxy Watch with Health and on the Pixel Watch with Fitbit or Google Fit, you will have different values simply because the apps are different. And maybe differences because hardware sensors additional. Google Fit on the Galaxy will also give different values than Health. You have to compare the hardware with the same app.
And so your video is OK, but it doesn't test the watch as a whole, it tests primarily the function of one separate app. And to say the watch is bad just doesn't work on this basis.
And at least, from my experience, I don't have any more mystery drops, lost or grossly incorrect data on my Galaxy Watch than on my Garmin. Of course, the data differ slightly in their value, but the trend is always parallel. Compared to my garmin chestbelt.
Again, while I understand what you're trying to say - the simple reality is that's not actually how it works when it comes to the heart rate sensor on this watch, or any other watch for that matter. Samsung delivers the heart rate value *as-is* from the PPG sensor, with all of their processing built-in. You can't access raw PPG data on Samsung's watches, so an app can't get it "more accurate". They could try and make some other guesses and remove something they think is wrong, but that's not based on anything from the sensor, because again, they don't have raw PPG data. The same is true on the GPS side. Aside from either full fidelity data or not (which when you toggle it on in the Samsung Health app like I did, is the full extent of the data). Again, here's the exact API on WearOS to access this data: developer.android.com/health-and-fitness/guides/health-services/background-body-sensors
Thus, the data from the native app is the highest resolution data available. Sure, an app can decide to apply other algorithms to it, but that's just an app guessing. Sometimes it guesses right, sometimes it guesses wrong. Most times, it just costs more battery and doesn't do anything.
As for your steps example - that's factually untrue as well. Steps is steps, as provided by the same Health API's as above. It's recorded by the OS and available to all apps equally via WearOS. This is true of every watch out there.
@@Dcrainmaker Yes and no. What you call, Software decided whether something is wrong and left out.... that's the elementary point for everything.
In measurement technology, a sensor delivers its data. The same goes for the Samsung HR sensor. like you say.
Samsung provides basic values for the apps via the hardware processing of the sensor. Every sensor in the world has a hardware evaluation so that usable data can be generated in the first place for following Software. in the next step., the app has to decide how these data are processed.
Everything revolves around how this data is evaluated, in software. In the software you set filters. Define cut out points. You set data refresh rates. You set time-based interpolation. You set correction factors. Every sensor has fluctuations. That's absolutely normal. I've been working with things like this for 25 years. But the software itself is the key. In measurement technology, the key to dynamic measurements (such as HR) is the interpretation of the data. The core element where you then determine how this data is to be interpreted. To get clean values for the following mathematics. And that's why the app used is also crucial for the reliability of the data. Nobody who can think takes raw data 1:1.
And yes, that's why another app can do "magic" and deliver better results. You underestimate how important the software itself is. There are even patents for it.
You say steps are steps.... ok. my Watch 6 says 12103 in health and 9351 in Fit and 9480 in Nike.... Why? Because the software evaluates things differently. And in addition, you have 2 methods for steps. take the ready interpretation from the API, or take the data from the G sensors to interpret your own steps.
@@raziel8321 Yes, everything you say is true about filters/etc. But no apps are doing that. They're taking the data as-is. Only a handful of medical apps can access the raw PPG data, if they have special agreements with Samsung.
Thus, I'd encourage you to look out there, and see if you can find a single app that shows different HR data for the exact same workout, between apps.
Best review yet of the watch 6 (haven't watched Desfit yet which I'm sure will be as good). Particularly impressed that you tested the watch in NL and DE and looks like CH too! That's serious dedication. I use a Garmin Fenix 6 pro for tracking my running and cycling and I've a Samsung Watch 4 44mm which I use for measuring my BP and body composition (I'm in EU and have a Samsung Galaxy phone). For fun I wore both watches for a 10k run this evening and the Samsung numbers were laughable. Garmin recorded 10.3k and Sammy had 10.07k but the heart rate and route were awful.The only semi useful numbers are the running metrics on the Samsung. I've no idea how accurate they are but it showed Great on 4 metrics and Good on 2, Flight time and Vertical. Even if accurate, no idea how to use that data. Interesting no one ever talks about the Samsung running metrics probably because they're garbage.
I have a Fenix 7 that I also ran with the 6 Classic with the other day. The pace on the Samsung is wild, ranging from 2:50/km to 7:30/km while the Fenix is staying more or less constant at 5:10/km. I also tested the Asymmetry metric, by limp-running for like 100m, the watch didn't pick up on it at all and kept saying I'm in perfect balance. So yea, I trust the Garmin running metrics like ground contact and vertical ratio way more than the Samsungs, whos numbers are quite a bit lower than the Garmin's too, which would according to the Garmin time ranges, make me a pro runner which I'm not.
How do you know the heart rate was wrong on the Samsung watch?
I've been using Samsung watches including my GW5P and GW6C. Samsung really needs to improve their shit man. No reason for it not to be top tier, for the price we pay.
I've heard mention of insane battery usage for sleep in several videos now. I have constant heart rate monitor and spO2 turned on, and for me an 8 hour nap with sleep mode turned on uses about 10%. I wonder what's causing the huge discrepancy.
How long does this watch last after a full charge?
@@wasimboliya Google is a better bet than me on that point. After the initial period when I kept it on 24/7, I started turning it off at night and just put it on the charger for a bit now and then when it's convenient, so it's rarely below 30% or above 80% for me.
My watch is now a year old, at 74% battery, and it says 26 hours remaining. If that's any help.
Loved every bit of this detailed review. Thank you so much for all the effort. Appreciate all that hard work
Ray's reviews ARE the best!
Great review. I am not in the market for a Samsung but it is always entertaining to watch your reviews
What is your preferred running watch? I am curious as to your current feelings on the Apple Ultra. Thank you for your time and consideration.
"It could be your cup of animal" 😀Perhaps they'll finally add the sloth. As long as people still buy Galaxy Watches perhaps there's little incentive to upgrade the accuracy. I'm sure they analyze what generates sales volume. Samsung also doesn't seem to open up their apps to external sensors, which would offer a workaround for those that enjoy the rest of the smartwatch features and style that Samsung offers.
Yeah, I'm done. When you said the battery life was not good. Also, in these reviews why are you not addressing what most people will use these watches for texting and other phone features on your wrist like talking etc.
Cause the battery life isn’t good. Also, you clicked on a review titled accuracy, not texting.
More accurately. It says in depth review.... So I would expect it to cover everything about the watch in depth. And if you want to split hairs, accuracy could also mean voice to text accuracy among other things.
Excellent video! On the GPS test you showed that the Samsung is cutting corners, I see that on my Galaxy Watch 4 Classic as well and on my Galaxy S20 5G phone. In your case did that give you different distances from the other watches? My Samsung distance is always less than what my bike computer shows.
thanks for the review. Get's a like just for those laps🎉
Much appreciated!
It should perhaps also be said that the precision of HR and GPS also depends very much on the app used and power mode, depending on how often it queries the values and how power-efficiently it works.
Good to know that I wouldn't be able to use ECG or get irregular heart rate notifications with my Google phone! That information is not widely available, nor would you think it would be limited to Samsung phones only when I have an Android
Apple watch flagship is £800 plus 15% Apr. not £320 Samsung Watch 6.
The Coros software I found horrendously difficult to navigate returned the £120 watch within a week. Difficult to buy a watch that does everything well, 3 years interest free on their products does it for me
The review I was waiting, best fit reviewer.
Thank you for those details because they may be the difference between me keeping Samsung vs. moving onto the Apple watch.
Till now not all health features are available in my country...its a let down
I'd get a heart attack in 5 minutes if I spoke this fast.
My samsung active 2 has been pretty accurate with the HR. I use a Polar H9 chest strap for running which is over 99% accurate. The samsung has some variance starting off when I run but once I get going, it's within 2-5 bpm. Sometimes it can vary wildly by 20bpm but that's not common.
It was the same for me. But now, with the Watch6, it is totally off! It measure with IR instead of the green light, but it also doesnt catch the varations, so I think it calculates the bpm differently with this new version.
@@Rissni that's really unfortunate since I was looking at the watch6. I might just switch to the Apple ecosystem since they have the most accurate sensors sadly.
Well, good thing i didn't trade my gw4 lte for the 6. If there could be some kind of doubt about it, after watching your video, there's absolutely no doubt now. I'd have to give my gw4 lte plus about 275€ to get... the same thing. No thanks😄. Btw, thanks for being one of the few that say things as they really are. Cheers✌️
Thank for the in-depth review. I'd like to know if this watch or the app can sync to training peaks
Getting my regular 44mm silver watch 6 today. After watch 4 classic 42mm trade in with discounts I only paid $67 plus tax
Yeah, the trade-in in a solid deal.
Sadly I think mine is going back. One of my BIGGEST issues is how Samsung keeps getting close, but blowing the basics, like GPS. Samsung Health is also an absolute mess. The only thing preventing me from dumping Apple is the watch.
Can you comment on the fall detection and sos functions. I REALLY need these too work. I currently have a warch 5 pro and can't get them to work. I recently sent it (2nd time). 1st time they claimed to have replaced some parts and stated everything worked. 2nd time they did no repair and stated nothing was wrong with the warch. Samsung will NOT give me details about the repair, or answer questions I sent with the watch when it went in for repairs. When I call the support number, most often we repeat my previous call. It always takes at least 2 hours and I don't get a solution for my issues. Any advice?
wait 5 years and on the galaxy watch 13 it will work
The 9nly thing that matters between the Galaxy Watch 5 and Watch 6 is the change in the Watch wrist band and the rotating bezel.
I would suggest to get the 47MM for the GW 6 Classic. I got the 43MM and the screen isn't big enough for me.
No discussion of run dynamics AT All? And body comp is not an health and fitness update, temp sensor not an update? Really? And although he doesn't find improvement over time, I have, finding it matches my GarminVenu2 for HR after a week or two. GPS get better after an update or two. I'm not a pro, though😊. Apple is not an option for me.
I've covered the running efficiency metrics in the past, but the challenge is they don't write any data to an exportable file, so it's virtually impossible to validate. Body Comp has been there since previous version, and temp sensor is actually not new either - also there in previous version.
Samsung makes some of the most beautiful hardware of any manufacturer. It’s sad that a lot of their products lacks consistency and accuracy.
Finally somebody who actually tested them
Great review as always. I currently have a Garmin Fenix 6 and thinking of upgrading, but the new Garmin watches are really expensive in Australia, so considering a Samsung Galaxy 6, as I already have the Samsung phone etc. I am worried about the inaccurate heart rate sensor, as I rely a lot on this being accurate. I currently use my Garmin with the Garmin chest strap, to get a better accuracy. Do you know if you can pair an external chest strap to the Samsung Galaxy 6 for a better accuracy when training?
IM USING GW5 PRO, as far as i know it's the same HR sensor. Last run: Garmin avg HR 147, Samsung 161. Max: Garmin: 160, Samsung:171. Not worth it for the purpose of tracing activities. As a smart watch is ok. BUT not even close to Apple Watches :(
Do you have any information on HR broadcast feature on the Samsung Galaxy wearables? There seems to be an 3rd party app for that but it doesn't work with Garmin or Wahoo bike computers. Would be great if both Samsung and Apple had that. Can you ask both companies about that feature and why it's not available when you have a chance?
Nice review!
Just wondering, have they made updates to the heart tracking? Its been 3 months since its been released.
Gosh, if i watched this video for more than 10 minutes i would go crazy...
Hi Sir. If you are going to choose, which one is better, Galaxy Watch 6 Classic or Garmin Forerunner 955/Garmin Instinct 2X?
Apparently, too many buy the garbage and too few influencers address this openly or make the effort to test properly.
Buddy gold standard for sleep stages are not "headband" it's recognizing waves on an EEG!
Samsung watch are Nice for everydays use but for real sport and trail, i use my garmin forerunner 965.
Other reviewers have observed a huge difference in accuracy between the normal edition and the classic edition (classic being worse). Have you noticed anything like that? In the graphs were both are compared they both drop the ball sometimes.
They were both equally sucky. However, one thing that likely shifts towards classic being worse (especially 47mm) is that size and weight have always played a large factor in accuracy. The heavier a watch is, the more it bounces. Add to that, the lug desig on the Classic while very pretty, it's actually super great for minimizing light leakage (the other arch nemisis of optical HR sensors).
@Dcrainmaker my HR on my watch keeps saying 30 at rest, I don't think this is accurate, what are your thoughts? I've had my heart checked out prior to this watch and it was fine
Forget the 6 - the 5 pro is much better - battery life is amazing and the fitness apps are equally as accurate - get over the physical bezel - I have prev models with the bezel and hardly ever used - the digital bezel in the 5 pro works very well
11:45 seems like the same amount as a $60 fitness band.
Is the tracking accuracy that big of a deal? Its within metres? What sports features is it missing?
The physical bezel is WAY too loose and not enough resistance. I was expecting some very positive clicks per input, but it isn't there at all. It's a lot like a mushy mouse wheel that's been worn down, which explains the overshooting/skipping of tiles. It can easily get nudged by a sleeve cuff and the face will be on some random tile when you bring up the watch. T-shirts only for this watch.
You should have did a digital camera review at the same time; im in the market.😊
2 or 3 months from now after the first updates it will be better
Was gonna buy a 6 classic to match to my fold 5. But being a pro athlete I need accurate HR and O2 levels and ECG and blood glucose. If this is not accurate then I wont bother. I also have an iphone so will look at the ultra2
Maybe the same year as Linux on the desktop xD
Ordered but know not to expect too much from accuracy. Long as it gives me a reasonable picture of walking fast enough to keep my heart pumping, I guess it'll do.
ouch. My 6 classic is coming on Saturday and I was hoping for workout accuracy. Think I should send it back and try a Garmin? Mostly I want accurate heart rate and was hoping the new watch would narrow down my HR zones so I don't have to guess them. Wonder what the best affordable workout watch is ATM?
What did you do?
LOL. UPS lost the shipment and I just cancelled the order. I tried a $400 (refurbished) nice Garmin but hated the non-touch interface and limited features. I may try the new Pixel now, meanwhile I'm still using my Galaxy watch 3 but the HR monitor really stinks while running or even just fast walking. It's often way high, jumping from 130 down to 88 in the space of a few seconds when I am just walking fast. The 88 is the accurate measurement, tested by hand.@@Ari_3000
@@bigalexg Thanks for the reply! I'm having a hard time choosing 😅
Thx for video. Sadly samsung has been Promising BP for usa for years now and "Nothing".. I wont be getting the Watch 6. Thx for review
I see no one is talking about Watch6 LTE overheating problem during calls, samsung has not addressed this problem!!
GPS problems look like software bug, furthermore the battery use with GPS 😅
which is the best watch for heart rate and sleep?
Hey man I wanted to ask a question about a product you've used. I know the wahoo kikr is incompatible with the canyon ultimate rim brake version, but is the tacx neo 2t compatible with the ultimate?
Tldw. Answer:nope. Same thing over and over again from Samsung. Srsly. Same since gw3.
Have you not seen apples watch line? There is not much of a visual difference in any of them
Thank you. Samsung is my last watch for this very reason. After 6 tries, lots of money behind them, and many years I have now given up on them. Going for a run, working your butt off to get good time, putting in a lot of effort to find out the watch got nothing is extremely disappointing. Also going to run with friends and you are the only one not posting to strava, or the one with redicilously fast times, you become the laughing stock. So this is the news: Samsung fell to fifth place and ended the fourth quarter with a 35% decline. No surprize. Making a watch that dont keep time, or a car that dont move, or a sports watch that cant record training is major failure for any company.
I rode those Peaks. Awesome. San Martino area
I got the GW4 Classic from Amazon Renewed for $150. Debating whether to get the GW6 for the improved battery, memory, etc. With trade in and discount i can get the 44mm for around $60. Should i pull the trigger? I'll miss it but can do without the rotating bezel .
I'm gutted my 47mm watch 6 and zfold won't do blood pressure cause I'm in America, anyone know if I can just use a VPN to fool the app
Not surprised by these findings at all. I have been a Garmin user for years and currently have an Epix 2. Im typing this on my Fold 5 wearing the new watch classic 6. The watch is underwhelming the same as the watch 5 pro sitting on my desk. I wind up using the Samsung for lte connection and smart alerts and the Garmin for anything fitness and health related. My watch 5 pro would tell me i was afib 50% of the readings.....steps count, heart rate, gps tracking are all so unreliable. The only reason i got the 6 classic was the look, and well the bezel. Its a decent smart watch, not a health or fitness tracker.
Are you sure you're following the instructions for taking an ECG measurement to the letter?
Things that I do to get the best measurement possible:
1. Hold my arms up in the air a bit so that my armpits are open
2. Make sure the finger is only touching the button. You don't want it to touch the arm or the watch's metal body.
3. Sit down and try to stay calm and relaxed while the measuring is in progress.
4. If the skin at the tip of your finger, or under the watch is dry, wet it up just a bit to improve conductivity and thus improve the signal strength.
@@marekslemensky4531 A bit condescending, no?
I'm sure they can read the manual and maybe did. Instead, could it be that Samsung have released yet another device that's a bit of a lemon?
@marekslemensky4531 you're kidding right? Thank you so much for providing the instructions that are literally displayed on the watch.....
I just packed my watch 6 and sent it back to return, it is baffling to see Samsung get on stage and advertise such an inaccurate piece of hardware, I was seeing consistent gaps of over 20 BPM for my workouts. Insane.
Thanks for the thorough investigation, the metrics don't inspire a lot of confidence in this thing
Newbie Q...Can you confidently wear these in the SHOWER and they'll be totally Fine with it?...I've got NO need or want for ANY of the Sport garb...but need all the Heart stuff
Does it calculate cycling automatically? I think it's very annoying my current watch 5 thinks I'm on a rowing machine every time I cycle.
Is the BP approved for use in the US?
Just bought a Samsung watch, and seeing the GPS accuracy is just funny!
Sorry!
Does the Samsung watch have a cycling app like the Garmin ?
Thanks
Friends, what do you think about Samsung Galaxy 6 40mm? Is it worth buying? Are its health and sports sensors working properly? I would be grateful if you could answer me because I want to buy sooner and if there is any problem or point, tell me...
No change, still have issues with sensors. :(
@Dcrainmaker thank you, my friend🩵 ,I didn't have a smart watch until now, and I was planning to buy Galaxy Watch 6, but with these problems, I had doubts about buying it, and I don't know if I should buy it or not...
❤great video thank u
My Watch 4 HR monitor is trash. Done with Samsung watches. Love their phones and tablets but they can keep their watch.
Huawai gt3/4 for man have 14 days of batery, and its true
I just purchased my Galaxy 6 watch and the strap design is super upsetting as it has fallen off at least once a day for the last week.
Also wondering if anyone knows if you can change the target distance in track mode to less than 1 km? Would love to set it to 400m, 600m etc.
I look forward to it every time, but I can't trust the data from the Galaxy Watch. There is no reason to believe any more. The only smartwatch is the Apple Watch. ;(
I am looking for a a smartwatch with youtube music playback function. (Offline)
Any recommendations?
Is there a way to connect the galaxy watch 6 to polar h10?
Can you pair it to a Xiaomi cell phone? Esim
Hi DC, can you help please? I am overweight, looking to restart the gym and walking/hiking in the new year. Using a samsung z fold 4. Previously had an apple smart watch and a garmin fenix. Was considering this galaxy watch but as ever, it seems to be fairly poor for accuracy, esp gps. I know all watches have pros and cons, but for someone who is not an athlete, I want to track and record all activity and progress over time of body/fitness metrics. Garmin currently has way too many models for me to narrow it down, and I believe the apple watch is best when paired with an iphone... with that being said, given I want a watch to track via gps my hikes, record and track the usual body fitness metrics (dont need maps or golf etc) and be fairly accurate, which garmin would you suggest, or at least to narrow it down to a couple of models...I would just go all out and get the epix pro 2 knowing that covers absolutely everything, but at £1000 that's out of the question...Thanks if you manage to see this message and give me your quick thoughts
Hi, just a thought, Samsung Health has coaching programs that work with the watch and that are specifically geared to fit beginners.
I saw it in another review. The main downside of the Samsung Watch seems to be the battery life.
You didn't go for a swim? How does it hold up in saltwater?
In regards to heart rate accuracy for watches I wonder whether size has to do with it. Ive gone from a 46mm fr255 with the new sensor to a (secondhand) 42mm fenix 6s pro with the older sensor and noticed the data is much more consistent (no drops and numbers in line with effort). Could that be because i have small wrists and the 6s is a better and tighter fit?
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Incorrect. The size matters as the fit matters very much. If your watch is too big for your wrist then the sensors aren't located correctly or consistently. As well the heavier the watch is the more it will shift around during motion, again reducing the accuracy.
Try not to answer a question so confidently if you have no idea what you are talking about.
Overpriced trash watches, just like their phones tbh. But their watches will give you false data. I recommand the Huawei GT3Pro Watch. Looks good, cheap and accurate sensors.
Is Apple Watches still buyable ?
The exact same sensors placed the exact same way with the exact same software can be more accurate?
Also they havn't upgraded the battery capacity, it's quite literally just over half of the 5 pro's capacity and doesn't even have the pro's GPS features.
seems that the 6 classic is the 4 classics's successor and not the 5 pro's.
perhaps the 7 will the the 5 pro's successor.
To be fair, even the same exact sensors can have dramatically different accuracy by changing either firmware levels or power draw. Also, they did change the mAh on the battery. Further, there’s clearly some sensor changes since they shifted to infrared for passive, which could be either hardware tweaked or power/algorithm changes with existing hardware.
I need to reset the time
You just talked me out of buying one. Thanks!
Why doesn't the Galaxy Watch measure oxygen during exercise by itself?
And my Gear S3 Frontier doesn't work on my S24 Ultra
From Android Samsung users, that's why Apple watches will always dominate this market.
So 5 hours GPS means only for casual users
And 5 hours is really just a best-case scenario. That assumes you take it right off the charger and don't do a lot with it in terms of notifications/etc...
@@Dcrainmaker I'm team Garmin I need battery life for days so I have the Epix 2
Did samsung fix the issue to allow Spotify to play on the watch speaker?
I can confirm they have.
Does it still not have glucose monitor