SOLVED: What PC Hardware Creators ACTUALLY used in 2023 - I'm SURPRISED!
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0:00 Intro
0:42 Sponsored Segment
1:09 Article by Pugetsystems
1:51 Important note!
2:30 Does Pugetsystems build Gaming PCs?
3:14 Mainstream CPUs Analysed
6:07 Workstation CPUs
8:44 GPU - Professional vs Gaming
11:39 Primary (OS) Storage
13:22 Primary Storage Capacity
15:55 All Storage - SSD vs HDD
17:57 OS - Most used Operating System
21:06 Conclusion - Why AMD is still impressive!
22:11 Why I'm EXCITED about Intel GPUs!
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Music needs to be turned way down
Agree 100%
Sounds fine over here, but I'm not wearing headphones...
are you guys using headphones or speakers?
@@nicktayloriv310headphones sounds fine
@@theTechNotice To be honest, both with a good pair of edifier speakers and from a phone, the balance of music and voice seems pretty good.
If you want to lower it, do it no more than a 1/4 of what it already is, but I would keep it as is. (example: If voice is at 90% volume and music at 20% in the editor, go down to the minimum of 15%)
I'm not a creator, but i still use Sata ssd as OS, cause it's still 80% good, after 9 years.
Good point, why change if it works, right?
@@theTechNotice And if he doesn't work with large files often there is not much gain in performance. Random read/write speeds for small files are comparable between SATA SSDs and most NVME's. Thanks for a great video! My operating system is on a 280gb PCIE Optane SSD.
There's also an argument for running an SSD because (in theory) it should generate less heat than an NVME - which should mean longer life.
Setting up my first machine with both SSDs & NVMEs, so I guess I'll be finding out.
Primary drive is a 2TB NVME. secondary is a 6TB platter.
Platter can be useful for large archival storage
Yep, I still use hard disks for my photo library. Bunch of 16TB, 10TB, 8TB and 4TB disks, and each has backups as well. For everything else mostly 1-2TB NVMes and smaller older sata SSDs. Just upgraded my whole PC and bought the WD SN850X 4TB NVMe for my primary drive.
@@Eremita85VIdeo is talking about primary storage on creator PCs and workstations. These cases don’t use internal HDDs for storage. They use NAS or server farm for storage.
@@ChrisVirgilioAh yep, thank you for the clarification. They are not my primary drives either, NVMe takes care of that. I'm mostly using my PC for editing photos I take, lots of them and all of them goes to HDDs. Lightroom catalog is in NVMe tho.
Very well put together video and the graphs are very useful.
Glad you like them!
last year I built an I7-12700 on a Aero G DDR4 mobo with 64GB G.Skill Trident, 2TB MP44, 500gb MP44 boot drive, a 2 TB WD Blue 2.5 ssd a Seagate Barracuda 6TB and a 3060 OC. It was the best I could do within my $1500 budget. funny thing is it cost slightly more today. I actually got the Aero mobo for half off. I think I did alright. What do you think?
🙂 yup, i have three 12700 rigs, they are all running just fine, later on i'll upgrade them all to i9 once those cpus become clearance price or open box or regurbished at Microcenter.
I think that's a solid build! Good performance for a lot of creator-based workflows
i7-12700k for me as well. Got a smoking deal at 199.99. I put it on an MSI MEG z690 mobo. 3060-12gb oc as well. I went with some ddr5 at 6k30cr nvme gen4 at 2tb
Guys How does i5 14500 and RTX3060 12GB look ? I do mostly Blender3D stuff...
my budget is $1200
@@lavatr8322 for that i don't know what would be ok for that low of a budget, cause I would say either i9 13k or 14k and a 4070 ti super 16gb
My main drive is 2TB and is over 75% full. It's not that hard to fill them up if you use a lot of different software. Unreal Engine 5 alone is probably over 500GB along with the different versions, plugins, and files I have. Plus AI programs and models add up fast. Then I have lots of other stuff form Adobe to Davinci to C4D etc etc...
Hey I need your advise on something. I have a td500 mesh (not the V2) and I will front mount my aio as intake because of space constraints. Will it be better to put the radiator between 6 fans? I intend to use ryzen 9 7950x and exhaust from 3 top fans and 1 rear
2TB > 1 TB on primary drive can be desirable because the performance of any line of NVME at 2TB is superior to that of the 1TB version.
It's not just about capacity.
I just installed a 2T as my primary because the price was very good. With the way I work, I fill my boot drive fast.
I really like your content. I am building or planning a build, and found your channel. Can I ask, what is the RGB colour code you usde for the red/orange colour? I like it 🙂 And a followup, is that fractal north XL case cool? My main priority for my gaming rig is that it is quiet, which means airflow should be good. I am building with a 4080 super
Hello, my i7 13700k runs pretty hot(under full load 100 degrees) so i want to undervolt it. The problem is, the voltage offset in XTU & BIOS ALSO grayed out preventing me from making any changes. Any idea why and how can i bring the voltage of my processor down? i cant understand why i cant do this in an unlcocked processor. it is not unlocked at all.
idk if its important but, my gpu is msi RTX 3060OC, Ram is 32(16x1 Corsair Vengeance RGB my motherboard is ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI-CSM please help me 😞😞😞
In your BIOS, you want to disable "asus multicore enhancement" and set it to "disabled - enforce all limits" - Also in the bios make sure any ai overclocking is disabled - Hope this helps :)
Hey congrats on 201k subscribers 👍
Thank you!
My primary drive is 512GB NVMe. Upgraded yesterday from SATA SSD 256GB. Last year's AliExpress model has almost died…
What were your AliExpress specs? I bought sn850x and some fans from there
@@fitah47 XrayDisk 256GB SSD
I'm not sure whether it was working at the time of purchase. I could have just carelessly test it before the installation
@@albertgoncharov wait does it still work
@@fitah47 Yes, first 20-30% of capacity works well, but then write speed becomes very slow, especially on small files
As a Photoshop and After Effects user, currently, i have primary nvme drive is 256gb which is very low, and i have one more nvme of 512gb for scratch disk. I also have one 18TB mechanical drive for storage. But my PC is now 6 years old and running Windows 10. During this year i will buy a new PC and will be with nvme 1TB for Windows and programs, and another one of 1TB for scratch disk
Honestly, the amount of work that went into getting the data is likely one or 2 tsql select with a few joins a group by and ordered by a rank of count or ordered by month asc.
You know for a lot of us creators we are also interested in how stable a motherboard / ram config is. Not a lot of tech tubers covering stability. Its a good niche to fill. ProArt vs Aero stability + more ram config stability tests would be excellent. Maybe achieve it through calling on a stability survey since it is time intensive.***
What is the name of the wall paint color? I'd like to use the same in my new office.
4 and 8 TB drives for AI workflows with datasets. I keep my learning sets on a secondary nvme, but I suppose maybe some people use primary for that.
Does it affect performance when you store the dataset in secondary drive ?
@@diazjubairy1729 i have not compared. Since i deal with visual arts and large datasets, I have kept them on a secondary from the beginning and don’t have reference to what it would be if it was all on primary drive.
19:32 best believe that! And it's not just creators, this is IT in general. Security systems and servers, networks, etc.
1TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 Plus/2x2TB WD Black SN850X - One for game and one for Storage/2TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0 Plus External M.2 for system backup and misc. files.
Hey there, I've been watching most of your videos and i always notice that you always talk about Intel being better because of igpu and quick sync, that is better for video playback while editing. Do you think it works with Davinci Resolve also? I mainly use Resolve only. I've been looking to upgrade my CPU from amd ryzen 9 5950x. Can't find better channels except you. Thanks for responding, it'll help me a lot.
I dont know about that, i used to have an i5 10400f, so the version that does not have igpu, and the playback was snooth enough.
If your cpu is good enough for a fast render and for whatever you are doing, well, why change?
Unless you want faster :)
In any case, i didnt see that improvement with the igpu in davinci resolve.
@@Alexandru1996_ hey there, thanks for the reply. Mine actually renders fast, not that i care about it, coz i'm not into chasing any deadline and stuff. My concern is while editing, it stutters a lot like and the playback is choppy, even when you throw just a bit of effects, it's just so frustrating coz you can't edit smoothly. So if an igpu can improve that part in Davinci resolve, then take my money.
Music is only too loud at beginning. Great video about Puget. My assumption regarding the primary drives being 2, 4 or 8tb nvmes is creators who also game but its odd they would do that agreed. Unless they only have one nvme slot
🙂 thats pretty cool graphs from Puget, your the first one I see that is covering it on my feed. Microcenter sometimes have the i9 cpu motherboard ram combo bundles for 400, and while your there pickup an RTX card. Why would u want to get anything else? Its computer not a console.
My primary is a 2TB NVMe, my OS and my main programs. I used to have it on a 1TB but when I upgraded to the PC I have now there was a special going on and the spread was like 30$ so I jumped to the 2TB. My assets and secondary programs are also on a 2TB NVMe. Homebuilt NAS in a Fractal Define 7XL case is loaded with spinning disc HD's running UnRaid. 😁
Great reporting for creators. Thank you! You know you could branch out into software stability and update commentary or config reporting like the work CG Directors does if you have time. AE, C4D, Blender user.
My pc is kind of weird because it's a collection of parts accumulated over time and pull forwards from previous builds. b550 mobo, r9 3900x cpu, 64 GB ddr4 @ 3600/cl18, boot=2tb nvme, secondary 4tb nvme. Other = 2x4tb hdd and 2x2tb sata ssd.3060TI gpu. two monitors atm. Note some of the drives may go into other builds.
I have an 280 Gb Intel Optane as my primary drive ... Love it .
im useing intel optane nvme 64gb with wd red pro 22tb and ram, with primo cache pro. way fast! Spinning Rust no more.
Have 1 tb on Windows, 2 X 2 tb as storage, one of which is reserved for MSFS and the last one is based on various other games, pictures and backup. all 3 are nvme .
10-years old 512GB MLC SATA with DRAM as primary (97% good), 2TB NVME for games, 1TB NVME - temp video/photo editing, 2x 4TB HDD +2TB SATA ssd - general storage (photo-video, etc), 8TB HDD for backups.
4 TB HDD as RAID in a NAS to actally store the video footage raw and edited, and 512 SSD GB to run the OS, drivers and applications from.
I have two 2 TB M.2 NVME one as primary, one as a game drive, one 4 TB M.2 NVME as a game drive and a 4 TB platter as a media drive for music, photos and video. Windows 11, 7800X3D/RX 7900 XT
Sometimes there’s workflows with so many different softwares that are defaulted to the C drive that dump so much data that it’s not feasible to re-locate the dumping on multiple machines
I guess that makes sense.... :)
Thank you Lauri.
So is Lauri of Finnish or Estonian descent? He doesn’t seem to have the accent of either 🤔
ive got 4 tb as my c drive, cause i filled up a 2tb real quick. and that drive, the pcie lanes are going to the cpu. 4tb is the best deal i think. 990 pros
Went with a 7950x3D for this gen, first thing I realized was that AM5 feels very... rough. Tends to cost more too. Bios updates helped a bit, but even then it's a bit janky. LGA 1700 in contrast is mature and less problematic.
i have 7800x3d and i have no problems with my pc
@@TaranMatharoo What does that have to do with the observation that AM5, as a new platform, had a very rough start? Btw this is for the x670 configuration, which is what AMD launched with and what most professionals will use if they go with AM5.
Its not conventional configuration by any means. See:
"The fact that one chipset’s uplink is wired to the downlink connectivity of the other will probably cause some complications. For example, virtualization scenarios will create a non-trivial device tree and also SSDs connected up to the second chipset will have higher communication latency than the SSDs connected to the first."
...
"these oddities will only occur with the X670 and X670E platforms. If you buy a mainstream board with a B650 or A620 chipset, you don’t have to worry about them, you will get a board that is completely conventional, just like the B550 platform was." -hwcooling
From XNA-Dev "Since AM5 launched in late 2022, reports of compatibility issues with RAM sticks and BIOS versions started to circulate on Reddit. People faced issues like no boot, long boot times, incompatibility with EXPO profiles, no video signal from the GPU, and many more. These early reliability issues were attributed to AM5 being a radically new platform. There were even rumors of AMD pushing back the availability date of the Ryzen 7000 CPUs due to AMD dealing with firmware-related problems."
@@TaranMatharoo Same, built my first ever pc in January, 7800x3d and literally had no issues at all.
I'm rocking a 2nvme because I use a lot of programs. Out of the 2 TB I actually only get like 1.90 something terabytes for my primary drive
4tb m.2 primary, then 4+2tbm.2 secondary, then 20tb HDD storage+backup. Games + films + TV shows. No I don't need all that, but it sure is nice to have! 😀
🙂 thats funny, its strange nobody talks about platter hard drives, me here i'm slowly buying more 20TB 3.5 Hard Drives, some are external so that i can make a backup of everything, and the internal ones i use so that i can dowload and maintain update my complete gaming collection across steam epic gog ea ubisoft and of course i have several TBs of game that i had to sail the high seas for because they are Delisted now for example the pc game Riddick
I use them for backing up. Best for longevity mainly go for wd gold drives. I have two 8tb hdd I just use for backups
@@RobH2022 😊 sounds good thx
Well I use a i9 13900k with a gaming motherboard Z790 with RTX 4070TI for my video editing and gaming and its incredible for video editing.
nice
@@theTechNotice I don't think threadripper for premiere pro would make much difference.
1TB NVMe (higher end) have been a sweet pot (TB/USD), but with NVMe being that cheap recently 2TB became a better choice.
Cool insights and analysis!
My system is a Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB case tempered glass, Corsair HX850 Platinum PSU, Corsair iCUE H150i Capellix XT cpu watercooling, Corsair 2x 16gb ddr5 vengeance rgb 6000 mts cl36 ram, 2tb Kingston KC3000 m.2 ssd as main, and 1tb Lexar NM620 m.2 as backup , 1x extra 120mm rgb corsair fan for the back. Intel Core I7-14700KF on a Asus Rog strix Z790-H gaming motherboard and the Asus RTX 4080 Super tuf gaming 16gb videocard. I would trade that in a blinck of an eye with that sweet system on the left Lauri has 😁
Lot of creator SW have had issues with AMD. So that is probably the main reason for Intel dominance.
Which kinda makes no sense since the 'PRO' platform has absolute AMD Threadripper dominance?
@theTechNotice 3:14 of the article kinda explained it. Normal creators don't really need that much processor power, so the "client" pc actually means normal consumer grade cpu like the 12700 series etc, that are used in productivity build.
And yes after trying out 1600 and 3700x, I went back to intel 12700 and it gave me no more issue with regards to software like photoshop, illustrator, affinity suite, blender, clip studio pro.
I just rescently build a pc, but the relatively short lived system support of intel mobo makes me choose amd route for better future proofing, i choose amd ryzen 7900 non-x paired with rtx 4060ti 16 gb for budget machine learning or deep learning task
I would imagine most creators are more artistic than technical and don't really know computer hardware and go with the long standing leader.
Or they just ask the shop to make them computer for 'X' workflow and they shop has to decide... Which I think here Pugetsystems did...
This is the reason.
what laptop is that on your intro.?
You set up a 512 GB system partition on a larger nvme SSD. This way you save an NVME slot for additional NVME SSDs. Not perfect, but nvme slots are limited.
The most interesting change was Linux ramping up from Juli and kinda hovering till November
I know right....
Primary drive is a 2 TB Gen 5 NVME, 2x 4TB NVME as program and working storage, 1 TB NVME as swap drive, 30TB of hard drive storage.
Wow, so many storage, what kind of wok did you use for these many storage capacity ?
GIS in archeology along with 15+ years as a professional photographer. Based on this channel recommendations just built a Threadripper 7970x on a gigabyte TR50 Aero motherboard with 256GB ram and 7900XTX. So far not displeased with the performance.
17:49 if boards werent shipping with that much NVME/m.2 then SATA SSD would still be more popular. Convenience of m.2 storage is it is fast, large storage, it's small and easily tucked away inside PC. SATA drives not needed as much anymore unless you need to have external storage to move around physically with.
I missed what part of the world Puget systems offer products?
That a really distinctive switch!
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I have 3 nvme SSDs in my system, I started with 2tb, added 4tb and then additional 4tb. Recently I swapped my 2tb with 4tb, the 2 tb is in external enclosure. I have a card (that came with my motherboard) that can add 2 additional nvme ssd, I have no need for it now.
thanks
I bought all but the 8 TB line, but only used 1 TB for Windoze.
15:06 those 2TB+ people are buying the drive as main drive to store EVERYTHING. They are not separating software from storage files. Absolutely no one needs 2TB for software!
What others are buying doesn’t speak to whether what they’re buying is any good or grossly over-specced.
would be interesting to see difference of Air cool cpu vs water.
these graphs are exact math to each other, ome is inverted timestamp 08:45 - 11:35 is this by chance or?
18:53 I didn't upgrade to WIN11 unless about the second update. Just how I am, I don't go to new software or things as they are released because well, nothing is perfect and initial release might do more harm than good.
we are VFX and video editors.. i always purchase 8 TB for my C drive. cause we store and install lotta softwares and needfull files. Its never been bellow from 2 tb since 2010... people always amazed .. but back then 2 tb for me was average too for a C drive. Moreoften in mt PC case its 38 TB o storages including 8TB c drive now.
I'm waiting for 20TB solid state drive to be the same price as 20TB spinning drive.
You need more storage for software as your C drive
I backed away b/c I couldn't find a MATX AMD AM5 mobo that's worth a hoot for less than $250. Problem solved itself.
I only have a 2 TB nvme right now. Might get a second if its needed in the future.
nice!
A lot of creators also game though, so a 2TB primary NVMe drive makes sense.
I'm a Graphic | Web | UI/UX designer first. I also play games. Street Fighter 6 and other games.
My rig is an i7-13700K
Gigabyte Z790 X AX MB
64GB Vengeance DDR5 600MHz, I plan to get 96GB RAM this summer
MSI RTX 4070 Video Card
3 2TB NVME drives. one for OS,W11, one for work and one for Utilities, Music to play while I work and design assets.
2 27 inch 144hrz monitors
Two 6 TB Western Digital external MY Book drives for backup.
great content buddy
Much appreciated
my primary and only drive is 1tb gen3 nvme, but I am mostly gaming xD
My laptop has 3. M.2 nvme port
Laptop manufacturers says
Each port support upto 2 TB
But m.2 nvme port can support 4TB
So I want to test 4 TB nvme drive and want 12 TB capacity
The NVME controller in the laptop doesnt support 4tb then you are wasting money.
Thanks
Please create a build for Blender. Thanks.
The thing about Windows 10 holding on for this long it because it has become super stable....as a software engineer installing lots of programming tools and updating and installing drivers...Winodws 10 is as stable as Windows 7 and Windows XP are (if not more). Windows 11 I think is a still wonky in some areas, although I've been testing it and it has gotten way better since this time last year.
I run SATA SSD drives in my smaller system as they simply run cooler than NVMes. 0 reason to switch as the boot/ game load time differences are marginal. Copying large amount of data and productivity different story tho.
My primary albeit older editing system is a 5950X with 128GB of RAM on an Asus Creator B550 board and Creator 4060Ti 16GB. Unfortunately, I've been running into issues with USB drop out during large file transfers which is a known issue on the AM4 platform.
My SFF editing machine is a Minisforum AR900i with a 13900HX, 96GB of a RAM, Zotac RTX 4070 Super 12GB in a Ghost S1 case. Been a fantastic machine.
My workflow doesn't go above 4K120 footage for video and 1000 to 2000 photo catalogs for editing. Both work very, very well for it.
2TB nvme gen4. Because it was exactly the same price as the 1 TB when purchasing
Do you see AMD dropping gaming type GPUs in favor for more profits elsewhere. Especially since intel battle mage is coming online.
10:30 Why doesn't this chart show AMD GCs? I bought one during that time period, and so did other people...
I have a 2tb nvme ssd as primary and 2tb Sata ssd as secondary
🤔 What is a gaming pc? one that has bunch of RGB, or a PC that works really well.
I use a crucial t705 2tb for my main drive.
Top of the top hehe?
@@theTechNotice Its a new build so I figured why not lol
my 12700kf consumes 1.4w-7w while watching videos and playing Flac music files, amazing
wonder how much AMD processors consume
22:29 I'm about to build and I'm joining Intel's train. For me, just makes sense as a CREATOR. I am leaving AMD chipset to join Intel chipset, so might as well I go graphics too.... should work better for the long term to sync with the chipset.
22:11 XEON had a very good run, maybe Intel is rebranding it, will see.
2TB NVMe as primary and 4TB NVMe as secondary. 8TB NVMe TLC drives need to come down in price big time. Still way too short on storage space. I personally won't touch anything Intel or NVidia.
Some people just want 1 SSD, so they have 1 4 or 8 TB drive and nothing else
17:57: Look guys! 2024 Is The Year Of The Linux Desktop!
2tb main. 2tb work drive for footage. 2tb drive for cache for AF and premiere pro.. and 4tb games 8tb backup drive 😂 aka a lot of drives
I can almost hear what you say so I think the music is not loud enough 😂😂
I run my primary OS on a platter drive. FYI I started leaving this comment when the video released, hitting save
Lol
4 tb m.2 or new m4? decisions.
1TB Primary, 2TB scratch, & 4TB games all NVME
Why people are buying 2tb's now for professional workflows?... if you know, you know.
I have a mixture of drives, mainly 2TBs and 4TBs for Secondary Drives. I used to have 1TB for my primary drive but decided to upgrade to 2TB as my usuage was getting closer to 1TB due to programmes and the other resources which i was trying out etc.
Creators, Gamers, Influencers etc. etc.
OMG. There are no computers for normal people.
There are, the normal basic non gamery stuff. Laptops that are usually thin for office stuff. For people who aren't looking or need to know what cores, ram speed and all that lingo. They just want the laptop works. Those are the normal people, cause theuy do not need to know more than the fact the laptop or pc works. And then, after that, you have the apple users who think 8gb of ram on Mac is like 16gb of ram on windows.
I skipped SATA SSDs so i can't say why that happens but my guess is cost and Intel? I can only say...HEY Pat where is my Battlemage top tier GPU pal? 😂my second GPU 3080 needs replacement! (dying memory and fan yep when mom tells you if it's green it must be rotten...it's mostly true🤣but the same is for blue😄) anyway i never saw anything about media engines on BMG lineup so can someone tells me something? it will be better than ARC?
I’m in the competitive gaming industry I’m part of a company that supplies major organizations like tsm, optic team liquid and a lot of other pro teams with pcs. Everyone in competitive gaming space use intel 100% of the time in their builds and for players personal pcs. We don’t not use any amd parts for any of the pc we build or provide for any pro team.
Why so?
we at AMD create all that shit where you play😎
@@kartikay9276 Probably stability.
@@kazuviking stability isn't am issue on amd platform either, also amd gives better performance in gaming
@@kartikay9276 Considering how many issues amd have with memory while intel just works.
Been AMD for years but my next big build is going to be Intel + Nvidia, when they release a 5090 or whatever. Especially with AI it's going to be a game changer. AMD has never really felt good to use for me, always weird little issues and lack of software support in the creative industry, fine for gaming. Loving the Asus Pro Art stuff. 👌🏻
My OS drive is a 2TB mostly because of the slightly (margin of error levels) random read/writes. I agree that 1TB would be sufficient but I can move that 2TB to be a good program/scratch or cache drive in the future. My three other drives in my main pc are 4TBs m.2s
The primary drives on my desktop PC and mini PC are the only drives on them, hence they are more than 1 TB. Not everybody has multiple slots for NVME.
When AMD was getting more popular, for photo, Intel was always known to be a better math coproessor for photoshop, so most as myself stuck to Intel.
Did you notice the mistake on the MSI ACE in your last video? Also, would you please do content on maxed out RAM @192GB and run tests to see which boards are stable and which ones have issues. Word on the street is most ASUS boards have issues from 128GB+.
Yeah, noticed it, completely my mistake! It's the unify and Godlike that miss iGPU but ACE has it :)
Install 10 different versions of UE4/5 see how fast your primary drive is full haha
I don't know much about creators or professionals.... but in 2023 I went all AMD (just for browsing and gaming) and it was the smoothest sailing ive ever had in terms of pc. Updating and installing drivers.... no games crashing.... good temperatures on both cpu... what a breeze
Same dude just built mine 3 weeks ago all amd and couldn’t be more pleased with the ease of it all.