This is why there are rigging companies that have the right kind of equipment and expertise to do these kind of jobs. Cheaping out almost cost two guys their lives.
@@228supercow I'm an Ironworker and a qualified rigger! Whom do you think does the rigging? The crane companies hire Ironworkers to rig! Or we hire the crane companies to pick our loads....
@@bak2812 I am I rigger/millwright for a machinery moving/erecting company. I too do this shit for a living I'm just saying you are correcting the guy even though riggers and iron workers are pretty much the same thing depending on how capable you and your company are as riggers.
@@davemanone3661 I think this is in the UK, they have something way more effective than OSHA, the Health and Safety executive. Which may mean there are people in this clip who could face a prison sentence.
@@shermansquires3979 I know, problem is, i have known many people against OSHA, because they think it just gets in the way. These are the people that cause the accidents!
They should've never used that forklift to try and lift such a massive beam! I feel for the guy who had to ride that scaffold down to the floor!! I hope he didn't get injured.
... he should be recuperating in Cancún Mexico 🇲🇽 ...if he got the right legal representation 🤔 I would've sued the hell of that construction company for Criminal Negligence and incompetence, and it's site Foreman 🤨
If not a larger forklift, They at least need a forklift with outriggers on the front. That little forklift is not big enough for such a beam, especially lifting it to such a height.
@@NibblesTheNibbler Do they even make forklifts with front outriggers? I've only seen them on small footprint forklifts. I'm not sure what happened, but he may have tilted too far forward. I think it would have been much better if they lifted from the opposite side here. They wouldn't have to lift the load away from the forklift and if it did lose balance it would lean on the steel structure. I'm not sure a crane would work here as they are lift very close to the ceiling.
If that guy on the bottom left didn't grab that scaffold and slow it down, the guy on the scaffold would have gotten crushed under that beam. Good on him, likely saved his co-workers life.
Lol. Seriously? With that amount of weight that guy done nothing holding onto the scaffolding apart from putting himself in danger. Natural reactions tho
Nobody seems to have mentioned the obvious. The forklift had a lifting jib attached. No wonder it tipped over - centre of gravity too far forward. I can't believe the people working there thought it was fine. The scissor lift did far better than expected but it was a wider model which helped. Very luck escape for the poor chap on the tower.
@@randlemarsh We all do silly things - fortunately I have never done anything that silly! I was moving a very heavy lathe yesterday - 4000kg - you have to treat such things with respect. If it looks wrong it IS wrong!
@@228supercow That is a 2 ton forklift at least - with the boom sticking out it will be down a lot. Of course the load sticking out too far will make a massive difference!
I am not a qualified engineer, but it is plain to see that the set up they used was more than woefully inadequate. How they all went along with that is beyond belief. The tower guy was lucky not to end up under the beam!
For the most part (Some places/companies are exceptions)... The trades are just as bad as any other work environment when it comes to cost saving/cutting corners. The only difference is in that in the trades VS. other industries (aside from the medical field) is that when they cheap out hard enough, people can die. Comparing the office to the jobsite.. they might cheap out on computers, or software, printers.. etc.. which can be frustrating af - but it doesn't kill anyone. The equivalent to that on the jobsite would be cheaping out on harnesses, proper scaffolding, using proper tools, etc.. which can kill you. They're the same difference. The guys doing it knew it was inadequate, the guy filming knew it wasn't right, their foreman knew it could go bad. But somewhere behind the scenes there was a manager just telling them to "get it done, with what they have". Wanting to save money they could by minimalizing any outsourcing that was probably needed.
So many failures here... Ministry of Labour will have a field day with this one! -Modifications to a lifting device (Every time you see a crane failure, there are safety mechanisms that have been defeated) -Scaffolding not secured (you can see the wheel rotate, which it wouldn't do if locked) -No locking pins in the scaffolding -Forklift operator not wearing seatbelt or restraint -No fall arrest or fall restraint on workers working at heights -Area not cordoned off _prob a lot more that we can't see... what a joke
Whoever was filming knew this was a bad idea. Guarantee someone had a problem with this and someone overruled them. I fell from a 6 ft step ladder onto concrete and shattered my elbow. I hope that guy is ok.
@@benjigray8690it has never been thought by archaeologists that slaves built the pyramids. All the scientific literature clearly shows that salaried & qualified workers built them. there is a heap of evidence from the various pyramids construction periods, they were meticulous in keeping records on tablets and later on papyrus. If you believed it was slaves then you’ve been reading/watching conspiracy theory untrained idiots who only look for clicks.
@@jajajajajajajajaja867not a single rock of any pyramid ever has weighed 2 million pounds. Why lie about something you know zero about? The middle of pyramids is mostly rubble of various sizes down to shoebox size. Only the outer skin and inner chambers have large stones of a couple of thousand kilos.
@@igotskunkyfunky Were you sexually abused as a child? Your brain isn't working properly. LMAO! What ghetto apartment are you living in that falls on you?
You're as clueless as they are! Wtf are guide wires? This a Qualified Rigger speaking!!! The two that have be rated are the crane and the rigging! Maybe your thinking of a tag line which only helps guide the piece...
@@skynetlabs Guide wire. A guy wire is tensioned to hold something in place after installed. A guide wire is what used to align and guide a piece while installing it.
Love how the two orange vests supervising didn't run to see if the guy on the scaffolding or fork lift was OK only one guy seemed concerned about the guy in the scaffolding
I have nothing but disdain for "Safety Coordinators" Worked at a place where their "Safety Supervisor" was 22 right out of College and did not know a damn thing! Those guys make $65,000 right out of College. We had an accident with a metal scrap pick up where the cable for the tilt-bed failed, It sent metal coating and rust everywhere, and this kid completely freaked out! He did not know what to do. It was hysterical. He was going to evacuate the building and call the FD, that's not even in the safety procedure break down for an event like that. He showed how useless he was, and I never listened to another word he said! "Supervisors" are even more useless!
• the forklift did not push it. The weight pulled over or was pulled. • @ 0:23 the collar connectors/ pins were not in. Pigtail pins/ toggle pins. Safety inspector missed that. No worker goes up if parts is missing. (Pigtails don't shear off)
you can hear the forklift really humming trying to pick it up too. Plus the mast of the forklift is almost at full height meaning all that weight is 15 to 20 feet in the air. Just really really poor decision making in this video.
That Skyjack siccorlift just went to the top of my wish list... That thing resisted a lot of force and weight and as I watched the base unit, it totally remained steady and it saved the guy at the top. Wow... Just wow!
I’ve spent a lot of time on succors lifts over 30 years of plant maintenance. We never put a heavy load on the top bars. We were told they were very stable machines. This video proves that.
Not really, the scaffold was the path of least resistance. If there were 2 scissor lifts the same size, at least one of them would have been taken out.
If you noticed when the beam first started to tip the guy in the scissors lift actually pushed the beam away from the lift and himself, thus turning the beam toward the guy on the scaffolding.
I've been on many jobsites with people doing stupid shit like this and the people in the danger zone are never the people who came up with the plan. Most likely it was one of those clowns standing a safe distance away watching with their arms crossed. It's up to the Indvidual worker to say no. I work on lifts, cranes, roofs, trenches, manholes etc, all the time and many times over my career I've refused to do something that a boss wanted because its unsafe and I have zero regrets. When you get hurt on a jobsite the cleaners come in to clean and stage the scene before the ambulance is even beyond the fence.
-Never use the lift as a crane or use the lift to push or pull another object. It causes structural damages and high repairing costs. -Do not carry materials on the platform railing unless approved by the manufacturer. Check the manual provided by the manufacturer. It has every detail on the rules for the platform. -Do not allow anyone to work, walk or stand under a raised boom or platform. It is the major reason for any fall accident. -never utilize a lift under a suspended object.
@@mopteh Scissor lifts are actually quite strong, I'd be more worried about the side movements. I work with these lifts everyday, never heard one collapse on itself, but fall over is quite common.
@@JorgenKreedz just resaw the video. Youre right. Its actually a front movement and I also fear the side movement. Been up in light storm but never with a push. Can you describe your experience with the tipping point? Working on a boom lift these days. Definitely my fav
Right up to the point at which the beam began to move everything was stable --- the forklift was stable, the beam was stationary and not swinging. The forklift didn't just suddenly start to tip. Believe it or not, the operator actually tilted the forks forward. This can be verified by paying attention to the moment when the beam starts to move, and the sounds that accompany it, and then focusing on the very rear of the forklift (glimpsed between the scissor lift members) which doesn't begin to move upward at all until afterward. That is the only thing that could have precipitated the tipping.
Many years ago, I was still in my teens, I watched a electrician ride scaffolding down from the ceiling of a warehouse being built, about same height as this. I was tied off to a column,connecting cable doing iron work. Helper was pushing scaffolding around as electrician was hanging lights, someone left the pin out of one of the wheels, wheel came off and scaffold tipped over and crashed to the concrete below. It flattened out when it hit the ground, man lived, but was obviously,broken up,probably a life of pain and misery afterwards.
Hell...I watched a delivery guy get crushed by a scaffold while it was STILL in the truck it was being delivered in! It all tilted sideways because he unsecured it while standing in the truck! Genius. (He lived with a few broken ribs but it wasn't minor).
@@aesaehttr lol,he got hurt just delivering them. Construction work is extremely dangerous, almost every job I worked on someone got hurt. My second job, I was lifting 3men and a acetylene and oxygen torch set up to top of building with a big case 580 forklift, it was at night and guy said, up, but he was holding on to the big chain that lifts the forks, his hand went through the pulley!! He went into shock waiting on the ambulance.
THAT is exactly why OSHA requires all pins be inserted in every wheel and every section! I believe offhand there is a $10,000 fine per wheel if the pin is not in there
This ranks right up there with the words from a painter when he told his foreman he was going to use an extension ladder after the scissor lift reached maximum height.
I've done that once.. But I was installing light weight hangers for a drywall ceiling, and I had a harness attached to a steel beam above me that was part of the building, and two of my guys with me to hold the ladder, so I wasn't going anywhere Still quite an adrenaline rush, and I hope I never have to to something simmilar again lol😊
I had my right hand cut off in a similar high scaffold accident, I ended up trapped and a fire brigade cherrypicker was needed to get me down. Fortunately I didn't fall like this gentleman
Actually I think he was just strong enough to save the life of the guy on the scaffolding if he didn't pull it he probably would have been crushed by that beam.
My 8 year old kid watched a man die when he and a coworker fell from a roof at a construction site next to our house. The builder didn't pay for safety harnesses, rigging or training for the undocumented crews. Sheathing came loose, and they both bounced off scaffolding the whole way down. One immediately dead; the other seriously injured for life. That builder? No charges. No problem. At least they made them get safety gear for that project, which I noticed missing from other sites run by the same firm several months later. Ain't worth it, folks. Just walk. Skilled workers are a rare breed. Some other company will take you in.
That is exactly what I was thinking. The one guys is just meanding around with his arms folded. Not that they really could have done anything but their lack of grave concern was rather odd.
Why would you even think of having a guy on a scaffolding in that situation. He was lucky to not have been smashed by that beam. I would have said no freaking way bossman! You can risk your life, but mine isn't worth the pay.
@@kingti85 Maybe you could provide an actual link instead of telling people to look it up because this video provides no information on where this was and when
I'm impressed at the scissor jack stability. The guy on the scaffold took a bad fall, it appears that the beam missed him. He's lucky even any injuries from the fall.
Can we talk about the pucker factor involved here on everyone’s part, most of all the guy about to literally get smashed under heavy steel and the guy desperately trying to pull on the scaffold at the bottom to prevent him from making a widow?
As has been mentioned in the comments... NOT an accident, this was totally avoidable with the correct planning and risk assessment... hopefully, heads rolled after the investigation... :-)
Im guessing that beam was way beyond the capacity of the forklift. Especially with a jib that has a lifting lug extending beyond the fork length further reducing forklift capacity. Also the higher you go on a forklift the capacity reduces. All this information is on the forklift ID plate. The Darwin award was in the building on this one but thankfully wasn’t handed out.
@@RiverMersey It's was not about lifting capacity. It was about the more height you have the less stable it gets. Here the weight is very high and a lot forward. Increase height of a lego tower and you will see the tower fall forward if center of gravity is far
@@unlikely_ghost209The stability triangle! Almost 25 years ago, my first job after I got out of the army was as a mechanic at a Hyster dealership. If there’s one thing I still remember from that job it’s the stability triangle. Our safety guy drilled that into our heads. I ended up working in the rental department, mostly on scissors & booms and they feel a lot less stable than they are. This one didn’t even lift a wheel until the beam hit the base, it wasn’t in much danger of going over. One problem I’ve seen often is that there’s a lot of “hey, you! Come run the forklift. Just do what I tell you to do.” Now if you’re unloading pallets from a box truck or flatbed that’s one thing, but when you’re lifting something high you need to be able to feel the load and know when to say “this isn’t right, I need to lower the load NOW.” And do it even if the boss says not to (once you’ve shouted at anyone with hands on it to get away NOW.)
Just because the forklift can pick the weight doesn't equate to safely pick the weight. The workers on the scaffold and scissor lift should of said no. It's a team effort and I have refused some picks in my career until they satisfied my safety concerns. I know for a fact I saved several lives one day because they were picking up a 20x20x20 section of tower below center of gravity making it top heavy on a 100 foot off the ground placement. They got it about 20 feet off the ground and the foreman thought it was good and I was in the aerial lift and I said no way put it back on the ground immediately.
What in God's creation were these supervisors thinking? Who moves a beam that heavy in that manner, and what exactly was the plan? Fire those idiots in charge!!
That one guy on the ground Deserves a huge raise he could have run but tried to stop he’s buddy on the scaffolding form falling he still fell but he wasn’t crushed by the beam also the guy in the Scissor lift needs new underwear now dam that was scary glad everyone was ok
According to my internet trolling I may be the only uncertified forklift operator on the planet, but I can't believe that forklift got that beam up there by itself in the first place.
One thing I am impressed with is that scissor lift. I was never aware they were that sturdy. It took those hits like a champ and didn't buckle or become unbalanced.
Please be advised, For unspecified legal reasons, and such, please understand that your employment was terminated as of uttering the statement 'bring it back.' Sincerely, Sketchy Company's even sketchier HR Dept.
I rremember when Kona craone's 1 ton bridge crane was installed in our shop in the room that had a 35 foot ceiling, a sub contractor brought in two man lifts and the I beams for the bridge crane were about 35 or 40 feet long, they had to lift one at a time diagonally across the room as there wasnt enough space to lift straight up parallel to the walls, they got the beam up on the safety railings of the lifts and lifted up near the ceiling,! and then with it up in the air they moved both lifts a few feet to get the beam parallel to the wall! holy cow what a crazy one that was!
The most obvious mistake is the placement of the scaffold. Put it on the same side of the beam with the forklift. The beam can't fall toward it, but it can fall away from it.
I’m wondering if the guy on the scaffold was even needed. If the beam was held securely (which this one obviously wasn’t) then have the guy in the scissor do one side then drive over to the other side.
Whoever decided to get a guy on a regular forklift to lift that size of beam is insane, and the operator…. Like we lifted crap like this with a full size crane and it was scary with full size lifts. Event a RTFL wouldn’t have lifted that thing, and I don’t know an operator that would have pushed it. I remember some iron workers got one stuck trying to move one overloaded with rebar carting it too high, and it had an auto shutoff feature that left the load upright and wouldn’t let ‘em drop it or move the forklift anywhere. I can’t believe this tiny industrial looking one doesn’t have that feature.
There are many issues in this incident. Coming from an engineer with 30 years in this type of work. The wrong equipment was used to lift it. There was clearly zero expertise in the staff to properly assess the load demand, the lifting technique, and the equipment capability. The points of load attachment were not stable (center only). There are so many issues with this. It's too many to list. I hope there were no serious injuries from this. I'm glad no one was crushed in the process. This is why rigging experts exist. Please use them and get references on them before attempting such projects. Lives depend on it.
Something similar happened to my boss when I was working at a steel plant. But he was killed. Firehouse right across the street but they couldn't save him. This was back in 93(Maritime Steel in Dartmouth Nova Scotia).
Using a jib like that on a forklift decreases the load capacity very quickly. Capacities are calculated for loads at 2ft or 24" from the backrest (centered on 4ft forks). For every inch you move out from the 24" load center you decrease capacity by 100lbs. That jib looks to be 6-8ft long, meaning that forklift's capacity was reduced by 4,800-7,200lbs. Then subtract the weight of the jib itself and you have an accident waiting to happen. From what I can see that forklift itself is likely only rated at around 5,000lbs to begin with. Meaning a 6ft jib would reduce the capacity to effectively zero. Scary stuff, glad nobody appears to have been seriously injured.
This is why there are rigging companies that have the right kind of equipment and expertise to do these kind of jobs. Cheaping out almost cost two guys their lives.
It's called Ironworkers......
@@bak2812or riggers..
@@228supercow I'm an Ironworker and a qualified rigger! Whom do you think does the rigging? The crane companies hire Ironworkers to rig! Or we hire the crane companies to pick our loads....
@@228supercow Look up what an Ironworker raising gang does?
@@bak2812 I am I rigger/millwright for a machinery moving/erecting company. I too do this shit for a living I'm just saying you are correcting the guy even though riggers and iron workers are pretty much the same thing depending on how capable you and your company are as riggers.
I'll bet OSHA loves the fact this was recorded.
OSHA lawyers having a field day
It’s not in the US.
This is a very good reason for OSHA
@@davemanone3661 I think this is in the UK, they have something way more effective than OSHA, the Health and Safety executive.
Which may mean there are people in this clip who could face a prison sentence.
@@shermansquires3979 I know, problem is, i have known many people against OSHA, because they think it just gets in the way. These are the people that cause the accidents!
The 2 guys standing arms crossed in high vis supervising definitely made a valuable contribution
Yep they usually do!😆😆
:) :) had to go back and watch these guys >> yeah, one guy casually dropped arms, eased back about 10' and "Im good"
There the ones making stupid decisions on 3x the money, surprised they were not in there warm office
I’d say they were from some day labor firm.
One walked towards the danger, the other backed off. But the error that caused this accident started well before that.
They should've never used that forklift to try and lift such a massive beam! I feel for the guy who had to ride that scaffold down to the floor!! I hope he didn't get injured.
... he should be recuperating in Cancún Mexico 🇲🇽 ...if he got the right legal representation 🤔 I would've sued the hell of that construction company for Criminal Negligence and incompetence, and it's site Foreman 🤨
If not a larger forklift, They at least need a forklift with outriggers on the front.
That little forklift is not big enough for such a beam, especially lifting it to such a height.
that beam still missed him
@@Texaca NO...not Cancun, it's one of the most dangerous places in the world.Tons of murders there.
@@NibblesTheNibbler Do they even make forklifts with front outriggers? I've only seen them on small footprint forklifts. I'm not sure what happened, but he may have tilted too far forward. I think it would have been much better if they lifted from the opposite side here. They wouldn't have to lift the load away from the forklift and if it did lose balance it would lean on the steel structure. I'm not sure a crane would work here as they are lift very close to the ceiling.
If that guy on the bottom left didn't grab that scaffold and slow it down, the guy on the scaffold would have gotten crushed under that beam. Good on him, likely saved his co-workers life.
You are absolutely right. That is incredible.
Good catch I didn't see that at first
Lol. Seriously? With that amount of weight that guy done nothing holding onto the scaffolding apart from putting himself in danger. Natural reactions tho
They should have procrastinated and did it the next day...see this?Procrastination for long life.
yep....@@damonz83
Nobody seems to have mentioned the obvious. The forklift had a lifting jib attached. No wonder it tipped over - centre of gravity too far forward. I can't believe the people working there thought it was fine.
The scissor lift did far better than expected but it was a wider model which helped. Very luck escape for the poor chap on the tower.
You should of been on that job site running the show. Now look what happened?
@@randlemarsh
We all do silly things - fortunately I have never done anything that silly!
I was moving a very heavy lathe yesterday - 4000kg - you have to treat such things with respect. If it looks wrong it IS wrong!
That forklift is way too small it had nothing to do with the boom attachment 😂
@@228supercow
That is a 2 ton forklift at least - with the boom sticking out it will be down a lot. Of course the load sticking out too far will make a massive difference!
@@codprawn this is a 5 ton fork lift at least and still, it is way overloaded. Even if they had the beam up against the mast it would still turn over.
I am not a qualified engineer, but it is plain to see that the set up they used was more than woefully inadequate. How they all went along with that is beyond belief. The tower guy was lucky not to end up under the beam!
This is a good example of bosses who hate "job killing regulations".
For the most part (Some places/companies are exceptions)...
The trades are just as bad as any other work environment when it comes to cost saving/cutting corners.
The only difference is in that in the trades VS. other industries (aside from the medical field) is that when they cheap out hard enough, people can die. Comparing the office to the jobsite.. they might cheap out on computers, or software, printers.. etc.. which can be frustrating af - but it doesn't kill anyone. The equivalent to that on the jobsite would be cheaping out on harnesses, proper scaffolding, using proper tools, etc.. which can kill you.
They're the same difference.
The guys doing it knew it was inadequate, the guy filming knew it wasn't right, their foreman knew it could go bad.
But somewhere behind the scenes there was a manager just telling them to "get it done, with what they have". Wanting to save money they could by minimalizing any outsourcing that was probably needed.
"Do it or you're fired."
So many failures here... Ministry of Labour will have a field day with this one!
-Modifications to a lifting device (Every time you see a crane failure, there are safety mechanisms that have been defeated)
-Scaffolding not secured (you can see the wheel rotate, which it wouldn't do if locked)
-No locking pins in the scaffolding
-Forklift operator not wearing seatbelt or restraint
-No fall arrest or fall restraint on workers working at heights
-Area not cordoned off
_prob a lot more that we can't see...
what a joke
I think the camera placement wasn't in agreement that it was a good idea, hence the record of what happened
"I don't care if he got killed, get it picked up and finished by lunch"
- American general contractor
Whoever was filming knew this was a bad idea. Guarantee someone had a problem with this and someone overruled them. I fell from a 6 ft step ladder onto concrete and shattered my elbow. I hope that guy is ok.
I am convinced now the aliens built the pyramids.
Guessing you're about as handy at construction as the yahoos shown above...
P.S. The pyramids are nothing but neatly stacked, piles of rocks.
@@codymoe4986some of which weigh around 2,000,000lbs.
At last! Someone who doesn't think it was the Pharos's slaves that built 'em.
@@benjigray8690it has never been thought by archaeologists that slaves built the pyramids. All the scientific literature clearly shows that salaried & qualified workers built them. there is a heap of evidence from the various pyramids construction periods, they were meticulous in keeping records on tablets and later on papyrus. If you believed it was slaves then you’ve been reading/watching conspiracy theory untrained idiots who only look for clicks.
@@jajajajajajajajaja867not a single rock of any pyramid ever has weighed 2 million pounds. Why lie about something you know zero about? The middle of pyramids is mostly rubble of various sizes down to shoebox size. Only the outer skin and inner chambers have large stones of a couple of thousand kilos.
Never EVER stand underneath anything that can squash you like a grape if it fell or toppled.
You stay in one everyday its called a house apartment or studio, bozzo
@@igotskunkyfunky Were you sexually abused as a child? Your brain isn't working properly. LMAO! What ghetto apartment are you living in that falls on you?
@igotskunkyfunky
You're one of these bozos that slows every conversation down because you need everything obvious explained to you.
@@igotskunkyfunky "bozzo?" How ironic!!
The fact they only supported that enormous beam at one point, without guide wires even, would be enough for me to say hell no.
You're as clueless as they are! Wtf are guide wires? This a Qualified Rigger speaking!!! The two that have be rated are the crane and the rigging! Maybe your thinking of a tag line which only helps guide the piece...
"guy" wire, not "guide"
@@skynetlabs Guide wire. A guy wire is tensioned to hold something in place after installed. A guide wire is what used to align and guide a piece while installing it.
@@skynetlabs _Person_ wire
Love how the two orange vests supervising didn't run to see if the guy on the scaffolding or fork lift was OK only one guy seemed concerned about the guy in the scaffolding
Luckily everyone was wearing a yellow jacket. 👍🏻
lol
Ooh, that stings! Hive five.
Scaffold dude came within about an inch of meeting his maker...😱😱😱
Apparently not. Another commenter implied that he'd been sent back to the factory, but without an RMA.
- that would have been a closed casket wake
Thank God they had their high vis on!
That was fucking terrifying for a “fail”
I was a painter at Skyjack, I worked there for years, Im speechless, glad they weren’t hurt.
I'm pretty sure he got hurt in that fall.
@@zarinthThank you doctor .
That beam looked heavier than the forklift that was trying to hold it.
Great time to check if everyone is wearing appropriate footwear..💯💀💀😂😂😂
That dude is absolutely so freaking lucky to be alive
Guessing the two guys on the right are the supervisor and safety guy 😂
I have nothing but disdain for "Safety Coordinators" Worked at a place where their "Safety Supervisor" was 22 right out of College and did not know a damn thing! Those guys make $65,000 right out of College. We had an accident with a metal scrap pick up where the cable for the tilt-bed failed, It sent metal coating and rust everywhere, and this kid completely freaked out! He did not know what to do. It was hysterical. He was going to evacuate the building and call the FD, that's not even in the safety procedure break down for an event like that. He showed how useless he was, and I never listened to another word he said! "Supervisors" are even more useless!
What's sad is that everyone in this room went along with this terrible idea, no safety culture.
The hi-lo being used as a crane was where it all went south
That could have been way worse.
• the forklift did not push it. The weight pulled over or was pulled.
• @ 0:23 the collar connectors/ pins were not in. Pigtail pins/ toggle pins. Safety inspector missed that. No worker goes up if parts is missing. (Pigtails don't shear off)
you can hear the forklift really humming trying to pick it up too. Plus the mast of the forklift is almost at full height meaning all that weight is 15 to 20 feet in the air. Just really really poor decision making in this video.
MANAGER COMING OUT OF OFFICE- "What was that noise?"
WORKERS- "What noise?"
LOL
That Skyjack siccorlift just went to the top of my wish list... That thing resisted a lot of force and weight and as I watched the base unit, it totally remained steady and it saved the guy at the top. Wow... Just wow!
I’ve spent a lot of time on succors lifts over 30 years of plant maintenance. We never put a heavy load on the top bars. We were told they were very stable machines. This video proves that.
my old boss used to sway those things back and forth laughing. i don't care how sturdy it is thought im not testing it hah
Agreed. Its stability is impressive. This video should be submitted to the manufacturer as testimony to the safety of their lift.
Not really, the scaffold was the path of least resistance. If there were 2 scissor lifts the same size, at least one of them would have been taken out.
If you noticed when the beam first started to tip the guy in the scissors lift actually pushed the beam away from the lift and himself, thus turning the beam toward the guy on the scaffolding.
I've been on many jobsites with people doing stupid shit like this and the people in the danger zone are never the people who came up with the plan. Most likely it was one of those clowns standing a safe distance away watching with their arms crossed. It's up to the Indvidual worker to say no. I work on lifts, cranes, roofs, trenches, manholes etc, all the time and many times over my career I've refused to do something that a boss wanted because its unsafe and I have zero regrets. When you get hurt on a jobsite the cleaners come in to clean and stage the scene before the ambulance is even beyond the fence.
-Never use the lift as a crane or use the lift to push or pull another object. It causes structural damages and high repairing costs.
-Do not carry materials on the platform railing unless approved by the manufacturer. Check the manual provided by the manufacturer. It has every detail on the rules for the platform.
-Do not allow anyone to work, walk or stand under a raised boom or platform. It is the major reason for any fall accident.
-never utilize a lift under a suspended object.
Worked with a man I respected greatly. When passing pertinent safety advice, he would say, "ask me how I know!"
The man below was actually quick to act and grab the bar - he saved the life of the person on the scaffold.
I guess lifting 5ton with a 2ton lift capacity overloads it.
i work on scissor lifts and tbh dont really trust them but after watching this i think ill start to trust them more!
No shit. I dont trust them either. This look pretty solid though
@@mopteh I've been doing scaffold for years, I'd never work on ally scaff. shits dangerous
@@mopteh Scissor lifts are actually quite strong, I'd be more worried about the side movements. I work with these lifts everyday, never heard one collapse on itself, but fall over is quite common.
@@JorgenKreedz just resaw the video. Youre right. Its actually a front movement and I also fear the side movement. Been up in light storm but never with a push. Can you describe your experience with the tipping point?
Working on a boom lift these days. Definitely my fav
@@JorgenKreedz what do you mean fall over? the lift tips over or human falls over the fence?
Right up to the point at which the beam began to move everything was stable --- the forklift was stable, the beam was stationary and not swinging.
The forklift didn't just suddenly start to tip. Believe it or not, the operator actually tilted the forks forward. This can be verified by paying attention to the moment when the beam starts to move, and the sounds that accompany it, and then focusing on the very rear of the forklift (glimpsed between the scissor lift members) which doesn't begin to move upward at all until afterward.
That is the only thing that could have precipitated the tipping.
Many years ago, I was still in my teens, I watched a electrician ride scaffolding down from the ceiling of a warehouse being built, about same height as this. I was tied off to a column,connecting cable doing iron work. Helper was pushing scaffolding around as electrician was hanging lights, someone left the pin out of one of the wheels, wheel came off and scaffold tipped over and crashed to the concrete below. It flattened out when it hit the ground, man lived, but was obviously,broken up,probably a life of pain and misery afterwards.
Hell...I watched a delivery guy get crushed by a scaffold while it was STILL in the truck it was being delivered in! It all tilted sideways because he unsecured it while standing in the truck! Genius. (He lived with a few broken ribs but it wasn't minor).
@@aesaehttr lol,he got hurt just delivering them. Construction work is extremely dangerous, almost every job I worked on someone got hurt. My second job, I was lifting 3men and a acetylene and oxygen torch set up to top of building with a big case 580 forklift, it was at night and guy said, up, but he was holding on to the big chain that lifts the forks, his hand went through the pulley!! He went into shock waiting on the ambulance.
THAT is exactly why OSHA requires all pins be inserted in every wheel and every section! I believe offhand there is a $10,000 fine per wheel if the pin is not in there
I love the pause after the calamity.
This ranks right up there with the words from a painter when he told his foreman he was going to use an extension ladder after the scissor lift reached maximum height.
I've done that once..
But I was installing light weight hangers for a drywall ceiling, and I had a harness attached to a steel beam above me that was part of the building, and two of my guys with me to hold the ladder, so I wasn't going anywhere
Still quite an adrenaline rush, and I hope I never have to to something simmilar again lol😊
I had my right hand cut off in a similar high scaffold accident, I ended up trapped and a fire brigade cherrypicker was needed to get me down. Fortunately I didn't fall like this gentleman
I would not have had my right hand cut off for all the money in the world.
@@MS-he4nj Unfortunately in an accident we have no control. It was by pure good fortune that I wasn't killed.
Glad your alive buddy. Shit happens fast on a job-site. Things are rushed and even the best of plans can go sideways very quickly.
@@MS-he4nj Lol no shit. Just go ahead and put me down bro. Thats the last thing that currently makes my life worth living haha
Hope you blamed yourself!!!
Jesus, a couple of guys are lucky to be alive.
Think he made it . Very lucky
Just think the same he were very lucky
That guy trying to hold the scaffolding from collapsing should've been stronger 😂
Actually I think he was just strong enough to save the life of the guy on the scaffolding if he didn't pull it he probably would have been crushed by that beam.
@@MikeMPharmaCyclistGod was with him
My 8 year old kid watched a man die when he and a coworker fell from a roof at a construction site next to our house. The builder didn't pay for safety harnesses, rigging or training for the undocumented crews. Sheathing came loose, and they both bounced off scaffolding the whole way down. One immediately dead; the other seriously injured for life.
That builder? No charges. No problem. At least they made them get safety gear for that project, which I noticed missing from other sites run by the same firm several months later.
Ain't worth it, folks. Just walk. Skilled workers are a rare breed. Some other company will take you in.
Guy on scaffolid be like Atlas shouldering the globe.
Dude on the tower was seriously lucky not to get crushed
"This was preventable"
-Captain Hindsight
I could see the stupid happening from here before they even made the lift
Those dudes walking around in the background are like "Wow, man. That sucks."
That is exactly what I was thinking. The one guys is just meanding around with his arms folded. Not that they really could have done anything but their lack of grave concern was rather odd.
They were the insurance assessors
The guy is lucky the girder didn't land on him at least looks like he's OK
Why would you even think of having a guy on a scaffolding in that situation. He was lucky to not have been smashed by that beam. I would have said no freaking way bossman! You can risk your life, but mine isn't worth the pay.
And then you'd be fired
Thanks for sharing this video! Qualified persons are so important for many reasons, including situations like this.
Damn, the falling debris moved the tripod and camera away from us seeing if that guy made it out alright.
he didn't the beam cut him in half. That's why you don't hear anybody asking if he's okay
Look it up
@@kingti85 Maybe you could provide an actual link instead of telling people to look it up because this video provides no information on where this was and when
@@SilverRose45 you want a source? I made it up
I'm impressed at the scissor jack stability. The guy on the scaffold took a bad fall, it appears that the beam missed him. He's lucky even any injuries from the fall.
Can we talk about the pucker factor involved here on everyone’s part, most of all the guy about to literally get smashed under heavy steel and the guy desperately trying to pull on the scaffold at the bottom to prevent him from making a widow?
As has been mentioned in the comments... NOT an accident, this was totally avoidable with the correct planning and risk assessment... hopefully, heads rolled after the investigation... :-)
Most accidents are avoidable.
employers will always tell you this
Im guessing that beam was way beyond the capacity of the forklift. Especially with a jib that has a lifting lug extending beyond the fork length further reducing forklift capacity. Also the higher you go on a forklift the capacity reduces. All this information is on the forklift ID plate. The Darwin award was in the building on this one but thankfully wasn’t handed out.
Generally correct, however, a forklift's lifting capacity DOESN'T reduce with height.
@@RiverMersey It's was not about lifting capacity. It was about the more height you have the less stable it gets. Here the weight is very high and a lot forward. Increase height of a lego tower and you will see the tower fall forward if center of gravity is far
@@unlikely_ghost209 yes, I do agree that it true.
@@unlikely_ghost209The stability triangle! Almost 25 years ago, my first job after I got out of the army was as a mechanic at a Hyster dealership. If there’s one thing I still remember from that job it’s the stability triangle. Our safety guy drilled that into our heads. I ended up working in the rental department, mostly on scissors & booms and they feel a lot less stable than they are. This one didn’t even lift a wheel until the beam hit the base, it wasn’t in much danger of going over.
One problem I’ve seen often is that there’s a lot of “hey, you! Come run the forklift. Just do what I tell you to do.” Now if you’re unloading pallets from a box truck or flatbed that’s one thing, but when you’re lifting something high you need to be able to feel the load and know when to say “this isn’t right, I need to lower the load NOW.” And do it even if the boss says not to (once you’ve shouted at anyone with hands on it to get away NOW.)
@@RiverMerseyyes it does.
That's why carpenters shouldn't do ironwork.....
Rattie as hell
Just because the forklift can pick the weight doesn't equate to safely pick the weight. The workers on the scaffold and scissor lift should of said no. It's a team effort and I have refused some picks in my career until they satisfied my safety concerns. I know for a fact I saved several lives one day because they were picking up a 20x20x20 section of tower below center of gravity making it top heavy on a 100 foot off the ground placement. They got it about 20 feet off the ground and the foreman thought it was good and I was in the aerial lift and I said no way put it back on the ground immediately.
Stupid doesn't say no!
What in God's creation were these supervisors thinking? Who moves a beam that heavy in that manner, and what exactly was the plan? Fire those idiots in charge!!
That one guy on the ground Deserves a huge raise he could have run but tried to stop he’s buddy on the scaffolding form falling he still fell but he wasn’t crushed by the beam also the guy in the Scissor lift needs new underwear now dam that was scary glad everyone was ok
How do you know the outcome of those involved?
I hate how these videos never tell you the outcome. I hope that dude is ok
According to my internet trolling I may be the only uncertified forklift operator on the planet, but I can't believe that forklift got that beam up there by itself in the first place.
Dude on the scaffolding is damn lucky that beam missed him!
One thing I am impressed with is that scissor lift. I was never aware they were that sturdy. It took those hits like a champ and didn't buckle or become unbalanced.
Wow scissor lifts are a lot more stable than I would have guessed.
this is why you never put your lift or scaffold in front of the load, if they were on the other side they wouldn't have been knocked over.
Those high viz jackets and helmets saved the day
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Lol...somebody in charge definitely got fired
“What’s everyone standing around for? Get back to work, still have a deadline!”
This is what happens when trained Ironworkers or steel erectors aren't used.
Oh my lord that sure was a close call. thanks for posting this.
It was all over when the counterweight jumped out of the forklift at 0:26! lol
I rremember when Kona craone's 1 ton bridge crane was installed in our shop in the room that had a 35 foot ceiling, a sub contractor brought in two man lifts and the I beams for the bridge crane were about 35 or 40 feet long, they had to lift one at a time diagonally across the room as there wasnt enough space to lift straight up parallel to the walls, they got the beam up on the safety railings of the lifts and lifted up near the ceiling,! and then with it up in the air they moved both lifts a few feet to get the beam parallel to the wall! holy cow what a crazy one that was!
It's nice they documented this for OSHA !
OSHA doesn't care about what happens in the UK.
Buddy in the scissor lift took his sweet time getting down.
Wow. Amazing nobody was killed.
Not sure what the guy at the bottom of the scaffolding was thinking as it was falling.
Gravity was not their friend today. Gravity only knows one thing, and that it's better to pull down.
That guy on the scaffold was lucky he had the presence of mind to duck under the beam or it would've rode him down.
I think these guys missed some of the work safety classes.
The guy on the scissor lift didn't want to look down for fear of seeing his colleague squashed like a bug.
The man on the scaffold was the luckiest! He’s lucky the beam turned on the way down, and his real worries were how he was landing with the scaffold.
That’s called an oopsie daisie.
Holy shit, this guy saw his life flash before his eyes on the way down. How he didn't end up under the beam is forever a mystery
The most obvious mistake is the placement of the scaffold. Put it on the same side of the beam with the forklift. The beam can't fall toward it, but it can fall away from it.
I’m wondering if the guy on the scaffold was even needed. If the beam was held securely (which this one obviously wasn’t) then have the guy in the scissor do one side then drive over to the other side.
You're as clueless as they were!!!!
The higher you go, the further from the pivot (front wheels) you get. It might be safe near the ground but that changes every inch until failure…
The guy in the lift is looking down casually thinking, “we should have sent the ‘new’ guy”
Gee that guy on the scaffold was very lucky.
Whoever decided to get a guy on a regular forklift to lift that size of beam is insane, and the operator…. Like we lifted crap like this with a full size crane and it was scary with full size lifts. Event a RTFL wouldn’t have lifted that thing, and I don’t know an operator that would have pushed it. I remember some iron workers got one stuck trying to move one overloaded with rebar carting it too high, and it had an auto shutoff feature that left the load upright and wouldn’t let ‘em drop it or move the forklift anywhere. I can’t believe this tiny industrial looking one doesn’t have that feature.
The guy that took the ride should buy a lotto ticket and have a conversation with god
A whole lot of 'thank yous' to the Big Man are definitely in order
There are many issues in this incident. Coming from an engineer with 30 years in this type of work. The wrong equipment was used to lift it. There was clearly zero expertise in the staff to properly assess the load demand, the lifting technique, and the equipment capability. The points of load attachment were not stable (center only). There are so many issues with this. It's too many to list. I hope there were no serious injuries from this. I'm glad no one was crushed in the process. This is why rigging experts exist. Please use them and get references on them before attempting such projects. Lives depend on it.
"Can I see you two in my office"
That guy shouldve bought a lottery ticket.
non union employee on scaffold was being paid way less than skyjack supervisor employee
work union live better... or in this situation work union live period!
Something similar happened to my boss when I was working at a steel plant. But he was killed. Firehouse right across the street but they couldn't save him. This was back in 93(Maritime Steel in Dartmouth Nova Scotia).
Skilled labor ain't cheap!
Cheap labor ain't skilled!
Oh no!!! Hope buddy was fine
I wish also
Pretty sure OSHA would have something to say about that.
Pretty sure they wouldn't as this isn't in the US.
Using a jib like that on a forklift decreases the load capacity very quickly. Capacities are calculated for loads at 2ft or 24" from the backrest (centered on 4ft forks). For every inch you move out from the 24" load center you decrease capacity by 100lbs. That jib looks to be 6-8ft long, meaning that forklift's capacity was reduced by 4,800-7,200lbs. Then subtract the weight of the jib itself and you have an accident waiting to happen. From what I can see that forklift itself is likely only rated at around 5,000lbs to begin with. Meaning a 6ft jib would reduce the capacity to effectively zero. Scary stuff, glad nobody appears to have been seriously injured.
Bloody gravity, it will get you every time
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