The Worst Monster to Ever Sail the Pacific
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- This video was inspired by a restaurant that was named after a man I'd never heard of. A man who it turns out is Kosrae's most famous historical figure. A man who the more I learned about the more I began to wonder if we should remember him at all.
But I suppose that's the thing about fame. It makes a man out of a monster.
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he does not have any lake in NZ named after him , that lake is named after D Hays an Australian settler and not Bully Hays which u erroneously credit with the naming . The original name is actually Haki te Kura
@@Lukejb2ButterworthIt was originally named Hay's but after Bully lived there it was renamed Hayes. So it's actually harder to say than Otago likes to admit currently where the present name actually comes from. Certainly it starts with Donald Hay, but that's not where it ends.
@@RareEarthSeries and for all anyone knows it was some other person called Hayes , in any case Māori names are being used here so no doubt it will revert to its original name some time soon
@@Lukejb2Butterworth Yes, but the insinuation by them installing tourist infrastructure around the lake promoting Hayes is a good indication of the local social belief about the name, regardless of what can be proven about why it changed.
Okay but the cook was named "Dutch Pete" which is objectively better as a pirate name. I don't make the rules.
calling all writers to reference this guy lol
Mean Pete, scourge of the scourges of the seven seas!
His wooden spoon has claimed the lives of many a pirate. Well, at least the one...
Dutch Evan also works quite well
Hurrah to Dutch Pete
All hail Dutch Pete!
My personal hero!
I'll bet he was a nice guy. The kind of guy you'd love buy a beer for.
We need more Dutch Pete's and fewer Bullys. Period.
Can I just take a moment and thank the chef who avenged a rape victim?
Build that guy a statue.
rest in peace pirate killing chef chad 🫡🫡🫡
No name for the true hero!!
Exactly !!!
I suspect he was just mad at Bully Hayes for his own personal reasons that boiled over, but in a respect he avenged many.
Pirates didn't tend to hide their money (treasure) they spent it, then stole more.
Any pirate treasures out there are at the bottom of the seas.
yea why would you bury your money on an island thousands of miles away from where you want to spend it. You spend years on those disgusting ships, you would want nothing more than to spend your loot immediately upon reaching any civilization that accepted your payment
Not to mention that, usually, pirates didn't end stealing much actual treasure (in the sense of gold, silver, jewelry) that could easily hidden away long term. They were much more likely to wind up with perishable cargos (tobacco, tea, cocoa, cotton, spices, or whatever) that could be sold in port.
@@colatf2 hypothetically If chased by some navy. A pirateship could try to reach any island to take the treasure to somewhere in the jungle to have access to it after getting arrested. Though I doubt pirates would be arrested back in the day. Maybe if they raised a white flag and surrendered after that. That would be prob. just an incident occuring couple times in history though.
@@MorgurEditspiracy was punished by death. They weren’t planning on coming back after being “arrested.”
The comment about seeking cargos of perishable items is more of the truth. Piracy was a here-and-now business. They didn’t really invest in the future.
@The_Red_Off_Road they were expecting to live long lives as pirates.
If the cook took the extra effort of turning Bully into a pot of stew, more people would've remembered him. Go hard or go home.
Hats off too the cook 🔪
All human malevolence aside, wading knee-deep in that water looks like it would be divine.
Never piss the guy doin the cookin off.
Ah, Pirates. The evil bandits of the seas somehow made heroic.
"People want pirates without the piracy" such a true statement, people like anti establishment but fail to realise these type of people will steal/maim them quicker than they will anyone else
Any fact about them that is good is in limited comparison to being a sailor elsewhere. Really just being on the sea at the time sucked
But that's the thing -- they were extremely popular at the time, and have gone in and out of fashion ever since. It's no mystery as to why they are cast as heroic: they get to buck the system in ways we only dream of, and they do it with /style/.
Speaking as a pirate historian, it's because much like military & political historical icons, not ALL pirates were evil. Piracy covers a wide range of criminality ranging from smuggling to brigandry to resource poaching.
Some were simply men feeding their families, branded thieves because they fished in waters that were arbitrarily claimed by state governments.
Others were profiteers, smuggling weapons & supplies, but were also the only lifeline for disenfranchised communities.
And others were commissioned military officers who used their government positions to shield themselves from the consequences of various evils including genocide, robbery, rape, etc (such pirates are known as corsairs, as opposed to privateers, who were mercenaries).
But the latter are fewer than the former two by a mile. Many didn't became pirates because they wanted to be. Many were escaped slaves and/or displaced indigenous peoples. Others, especially in the Caribbean, were kidnapped from their homes, forced to serve in the Navy, and then when they left were branded for death if they ever returned home, unless of course they could pay the government off. Others were refugees from political strife, such as the Spanish Inquisition, and desperately trying to keep themselves alive
The historical tragedy of piracy is that many pirate were in fact victims of society & forced into the position, but the nature of the profession often required them to become victimizers, unless they were well connected enough to engage in smuggling. And you NEEDED social & political connections to be successful in that substrain of piracy. It's why most smugglers were merchant-class equivalents, and the ones who weren't stand out in history.
Unfortunately, such stories aren't the ones normally told, or in other cases preserved. Usually they are either told by the outstanding villains, or the same people whose job it was to wipe them out & tarnish any nuance.
Recognizing that pirates, like other classes of criminal such as bandits or gangsters, are people, and therefore represent a wide spectrum of ideology, methodology, and morality, is something that unfortunately our modern media consistently fails to accurately portray. And when they do try to portray that nuance, they often whitewash historical evils rather than portray the actual nuanced examples of historical figures, like how Stede Bonnet as of late has been whitewashed of his history as a notorious slaver.
There were evil pirates yes. There were also ones without debatably outright saintly modus oprendi, such as the Jacobite-abolitionist pirates of the Guyanas. But most fell into a grey zone, people just trying to survive like we do today.
Bully Bill was one of the outstandingly evil examples that unfortunately is conflated with the actual nuanced pirate individuals, such as the Micronesian fisher-poachers.
@@raguelelnaqum
Government: You're a pirate.
Pirate: I'm a fisherman.
Bully: I have my rights! I have my rights!
Cook: Yeah, well what about the rights of that little girl.
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Thank you for making the blackbirding = slavery connection! To this day too many historians of the Pacific still cling to the "but they were contracted" idea.
Great series of videos! Looking forward to your next one too!
Take good care! Cheers from Guam! 🇬🇺
I like to imagine Dutch Pete was just minding his own business, and Hayes tried to puff up his chest at him. Thinking ‘wtf’, Pete promptly pulled out his revolver, shot once to kill, twice for good measure, and went back to peeling them potatoes
There's something really perverse about the human race that we would glorify someone like Hayes and forget the man who actually stopped him from doing what pretty much everyone would say is the worst thing you can do. The whole "anti-hero" trope is troubling and it goes back a long, long way. Perhaps if we get to the point that we recognize the bullies and the monsters for what they actually are, we might progress as a species. Currently, we still seem to be glorifying the monsters and vilifying those who oppose them.
Much like trump today !!!
@@thinkabout602 You read my mind!
@@Hashishin13Trump was anything but anti-war. His provocations with Iran, China, and yes, North Korea prove this. And all the drone strikes and bombings around the world don't help, either. One the first things he did was to make sure a MOAB was used.
or maybe it makes a better story?...maybe...
@@minmcmarkemterm9109 Depends on how you define "better". The real issue for me is the way the story was twisted and warped to turn an actual monster into some kind of hero. A thief, swindler and serial child rapist morphs into some kind of noble rebel who fights the establishment. This is not a "better" story, it is a lie that will, unfortunately, be taken as fact by the ignorant. Hard to see positives in this.
I love this channel so effin' much!
If this got you thinking, I would highly recommend the (severely underrated) film "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford". It's long and a bit slow paced, but it's pretty much the exact same thesis, just about a different anti-hero, and the person who killed him (who should be thought of as a hero, but ended up mostly forgotten by history). Brad Pitt even said it's his favorite film he worked on.
Well he shot Jesse James in the back of the skull in cold blood, purely for the reward that was on his head.
It’s kind hard to paint someone who does that as a hero. He killed for money. Just like Jesse James did.
You need to study the history of the James family. This history might show you that some people who you think are good are actually as evil as the ones you consider monsters. Like maybe the bombing of his family home, which killed his 8 year old brother.
@@numerum_bestia The premise of the movie is that Jesse James was depicted as a hero in his time in dime novels despite being a terrible criminal. Robert Ford idolized him growing up, but realized he wasn't the legendary hero he thought he was. He killed him for the money, but also for the fame it would bring him, killing America's most wanted criminal. However instead of fame, people hated him for killing a legend, and was mostly forgotten to history other than the guy who shot Jesse James.
Obviously it doesn't play out quite the same as Bully Hayes' story, but there are definitely parallels.
Thanks Evan, Wikipedia says that Lake Hayes was named after a local sheep farmer , not the pirate. Anyway it has a beautiful Māori name Te Whaka-ata a Haki-te-kura, maybe we should try to call it that.
Thanks! That's how Otago currently pitches it, but it's slightly more complex. The scholarship I'd read had been equally confused as to the true name's origin as there were pirate-themed tourist infrastructure around the lake bearing his name for generations (and the sheep farmers name was Hay, while the lake's spelling alters to Hayes sometime after Bully's era).
But either way the concept thankfully (unfortunately?) remains the same as the local tourism industry also wished to sell the memory of Hayes and his pirate past rather than that of the sheep farmer, similar to as they have on Kosrae. If it was just a spelling misunderstanding that led to the name change rather than deliberate change is unknown.
crux.org.nz/crux-news/qtown-has-a-big-bully-hayes-problem
www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/restaurants-linked-slave-trader-take-differing-approaches
In a sense I suppose I could have made this exact story about Bully Hayes vs Donald Hay and why one gets the lake dedicated to them in social memory despite technically it having been named for the other originally. It would essentially provide the same message as this video.
I'd stick with the Maori name, personally.
I never knew that Lake Hayes was named for him. I'd heard of Bully Hayes but didn't really know who he was.
Is anyone really suprised that a guy named Bully isn't the hero
But what about bully maguire, he’s a hero we can believe in
“The worst monster to ever step foot in these shores.”
Impressive distinction when you consider what the Japanese occupying troops did there.
None of those as individuals did as much damage as he did, as a collective, sure.
The Japanese were heinous in many places in Micronesia, particularly Chuuk, but for the most part were rather benign in Kosrae.
It seems to have depended on the individual commanders. I believe there was one Captain Isao Yamazoe stationed in a town called "Dulag" in the Phillipines who was so well-liked by the locals that they built a memorial to him after he died in an ambush, and still honour his memory to this day.
The commander who replaced him was, however, an utter bastard.
How is US dropping nuke any better? And US west led till goes on bullying smaller countries. You don't have a leg to stand on in reality.
If you ignore the rapes & murders committed by their soldiers. The consumption of the islanders depended on how long it took the Imperial Japanese Navy to resupply their men. As they had many dishes based on rice and "long pork"...@@RareEarthSeries
8:36,nice little turtle there. I really appreciate this small detail. In this grim story.
Wow, I’m from New Zealand and this is the first I’ve ever heard of Bully Hayes.
Ahh, polite people seldom are remembered in history books.
Gotta love Rare Earth.
I never heard of Bully Hayes until now. Now I wish I have never heard of him.
The end card mentions Demonetization... did I miss something? Was one of these videos demonetized?
I continue to be amazed at how many interesting stories you pull out of a tiny island I'd never heard of.
UA-cam doesn't like any conversation about the 'R' word, regardless of context.
Another great video esay.
Thank you very much for the quality content.
Getting some serious "Judge Holden" vibs from this guy.
Just as long as our cities are dotted with men of war and our heroes all have blood on their hands and our history books glorify those monsters we would never break the cycle of an unhappy world. Our children would never forgive us for the falsehood we teach them and perpetuate. Your take on this issue couldn’t have been said any better. THANK YOU. You said what we all needed hearing. Thanks once again.
What is the answer? A peaceful people and country Tibet, has faced forced assimilation for 70 years.
We still have colonialism.
@@billpetersen298, that we speak truth to power and do not fan the flames of honour for those who do not deserve it
Be careful when looking for heros.
Never liked this expression. Comes from people deifying the pillars, afraid of recognizing that some need to be torn down when examined. Out of sight out of mind type rhetoric. Disappointment isn't something to run from, face it head on and get better heroes.
Moral judgement isn't ridiculous whining but deserved retribution by a society that has at least some values. It's disgusting that guy ever got exalted in film. Shameful!
so what are you doing about all the woke crap coming out now? shameful!
@@ginxxxxx Gin, what makes you think I live somewhere where "being woke" is relevant? English isn't even my native language nor do I live in the US 😒 you're daft as a brick 😅
@@ginxxxxxppl like to yap
Charming fellow, now we call them Congressmen....
Thanks for the memories, ur the best storytime
Moral of the story is never mess with the cook.
JFC
We need more stories like this
I think we perhaps we glorify pirates, the mob and outlaw gangs because of the experiences and the acknowledgement that the "legitimate" forces could be just as terrible. However just as terrible is still the same terrible.
Maybe those heroes serve a fantasy that there is an alternative out there that still functions according to the ideals of what we are familiar with, but the results are what we want and only hurt the right people.
I think there is a persuasive argument to be made there for a specific era of Carribbean piracy, before abolition. Some pirates there were more egalitarian than the forces of the empires which opposed them, which often consisted of sailors press ganged into service for meager pay and a strict social hierarchy. A pirate ship was often more democratic, where anyone could, in theory, work their way up to Captain.
@@Croz89 Aye, it's difficult to speak to broadly as it could change from ship to ship. That the Captain and other higher ranks wouldn't have any outside force to punish any rebellion by the rest probably helped ensure that democracy was easier. However that didn't mean every ship and sometimes only some portions of the crew got it.
As for outside the crew, while there are stories of slaves on attacked slave ships given the opportunity to join the crew, there are many of the people being killed or simply sold on by pirates. I don't think that's a reflection of the pirates unique evil but of how normalised the evil of the atlantic slave trade was.
@@gota7738 Slavery is a tricky one, since as you said it was a fairly normal thing back then. Even those being enslaved would often be familiar with the concept, as they usually came from civilisations that also practiced slavery and traded slaves, or had neighbours who did. Universal abolition was still a pretty novel idea when europeans started adopting it, at least on such a large scale, so I'm not surprised pirates weren't all abolitionists either.
The biggest thing I take from this video is that Bully Hayes was a ginormous POS. Cheers to the Chef!
The hero chef's name? His name was Robert Paulson.
Never heard of Bully Heyes. So that's some good news for you
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I love how back in the day if you wanted something you just took it.
That Chef deserved Valhalla with his battle spatula
Let's hope it was a particularly blunt wooden spatula. 😅
Thanx for this. Interesting and educational.
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Thanks for setting the story straight.
"...because that's an honor we tend to reserve, for the bullies". _Boom!_
Another gem, thanks. A guy called Ben Boyd on south coast of NSW took many of those slaves to make himself rich. Even had a town named after him. Like all pirates the treasure was spent on wine, women (maybe men?) and song, not buried, until the next one.
Always love your vids
I'm a New Zealander and this was the first time I've heard of blackface having been performed here and indeed wiki says that he did that in Australia before joining travelling performers in New Zealand. It would have been dangerous to mock the natives so publicly in NZ, they might have killed you for it back then.
But it was actually the name of Lake Hayes that intrigued me most and that story turns out to have a twist in it too. Originally it was named Lake Hays, after a different man, a farmer, but when Bully Hayes opened a hotel nearby the name gradually morphed to Hayes, which it remains to this day.
Overall he was a fraudster rather than a pirate, having obtained a great deal of cargo (including human cargo) and ships through the use false papers and confidence tricks, intimidating those who would stop him. The sort of man who would never leave a treasure behind because he could always talk his way into a new one whenever he needed to. Such people plague us to this day.
Hey, I did that thing you always say to do: research what you see on UA-cam. Also now have seen you reply on the Lake Hayes topic.
Watching this video open with you walking in water I couldn't see the bottom off gave me so much anxiety!
That last line though. Sad but true.
I think the trouble lies in the fact that a lot of people just feel like they are under someone else's thumb, whether they are or not, and so a lot of them will glorify anyone who doesn't take any shit.
A perfect example would be the popularity of someone like Al Capone, even when he was alive.
That man said "fuck you" to local and federal government and people loved him for it, especially since he allowed them to get drunk, gamble and fuck whores in his speakeasies.
It didn't matter to a lot of them that he aided or outright caused a shitload of violence, just as long as the violence was against someone else and not the people who worshipped him.
I guess that if you have enough bravado and don't harm some people, then they can forgive you for being a terrible person.
I'd never even *heard* of Bully Hayes prior to this video.
Nice, thanks for the new content!
Well done Dutch Pete!
My regards to the chef, dishing out revenge best served cold.
He's my ancestor. Something like great great great great grandfather . He also looks exactly like my father and I. This morning I got the wild idea to try and find my family tree. I just typed in "history of Hayes" into UA-cam. I wish I never had.
Ofc he's from my state
That Nate and Hayes movie is gross. The fact that there are multiple cases of people trying to rehabilitate a child rapist into actually being a good guy is disgusting.
I know the names of the islands and something about most of them. I'd seen the name. Seemed like a Name. Thanks for filling in one of the many blanks. (well, it's a start)
No wooden leg, no hook, no eyepatch and no parakeet on his shoulder - disappointing, errrrr !
When it comes to legendary pirates who aren't that special (or nonexistent) research "Klaus Störtebeker"
Great! Thanks
From now I'll be petitioning to make a movie about Dutch Pete, if that other guy had 2 about him it's the veryl least we can do.
Also not true is that Lake Hays in Otago is named after Bully Hays. Named after a different guy.
It was originally named after Donald Hay and then sometime after Bully's era was renamed Hayes instead. It might not have originally been named after him, but the tourist infrastructure that sells his pirate legacy around the lake would say that in practice, that's not the case.
Of course it's an anonymous Kitchen Folk who ended this guy.
Sure, the "righteous outlaw who only kills those who deserve it and gets rich by only robbing other, much worse thieves" may only exist in the realm of Phantasmagoria. But so do many other popular tropes that are arguably way more harmful. You know, like "there is a girl out there that is your fated love interest and the very moment you lay your eyes on her you'll know she's The One". Or the idea that you can just "live happily ever after" as if the very concept of human free will AND the Heisenberg uncertainty principle didn't make it so you never know what tomorrow will bring (although this one is a 19th century construct that most people seem to be already fed up with).
But you see, there are stories that use the flase pirate images as vehicles to convey a powerful message. You know, like "the real treasure was the friends we met along the way". One that is absolutely true and pretty good to internalize, even if it takes some self-aggrandising fantasy to sweeten the medicine. Doesn't this make it a noble lie at least?
Did you seriously just argue that dreaming of love at first sight or living happily ever after could somehow be worse than glorifying murderers and rapists?
“The worst monster to ever sail the pacific”, was without any doubt a human.
Maybe the Demons are humans?
It's a perfect name, and it happened on the other side of the world, at a time when communication was at a premium. To this day bully isn't remembered as a person, it's just a cool name that is associated with the story of an American from the Midwest setting sail fir adventures in a place so far away it may as well have been on a different planet.
I wonder if this was any inspiration for the book, The Magic Pudding by Norman Lindsay? A children's book in Australia.
Not joking, never heard of him.
Wouldn't call it murder if he stopped a monster tbh
New thumbnail is wildly improved. Glad you made the switcb
Don't piss off the cook, they have knives.
As a sidenote, I momentarily forgot about Tommy Lee Jones and this whole video til the last sentence thought you were referring to Tommy Lee, of Motley Crue or whatever. Changed the whole tone a little bit.
Thanks Evan! The real treasure is in the credits.
Reminds me of a similarly deplorable person: the Marquis de Sade. For whom Sadism is named. He was killed by a mob after raping a servant of his to death. Naturally, Hollywood glorified him in the movie Quill. Home of the Harvey Weinstein and affiliated Jeff Epstein. What you glorify speaks to what you want to see manifested in reality. Character matters
Must be a different Marquis De Sade, since the French sadist died of "gangrenous fever."
Not sure if he ever raped anyone to death; this is the first mention that I have heard of that.
So true people are fascinated with bullies, perfect example is the cartels in Mexico who have songs written about them and get to be on t.v. playing in Spanish soap operas😢
Also a lot of rap music
This video shiverd me timbers.
Under rated Channel.
"He just couldn't take his shit anymore' LOL Love it.
Quite interesting.:
The poesie of the song of a 'compteur' correcting our romanced History to the truth of local island reality.
The treasure of knowledge with the down to earth atrocities facing our civilisation.
This goes when society let us, individuals like Buly all alone and too powerful riding our demons.
Mission accomplished, I've already forgotten his name.
I love this channel !!!!
Well, I mean, by his own admission, he was a bully.
Sadly, many Kanakas served as fertiliser for Queensland canefields.
Of course Tommy Lee Jones didn't play the cook, it was Steven Seagal.
7:54…like da wolf of Wall Street, turning con men into heroes
Well, people don’t really like movies about villains all that often, so what say you we make a movie about that cook?!
That was a much younger Tommy Lee Jones than I have seen in, well, decades. When was that movie made, anyone?
Long live the cook!!!
My man, have you watched Sopranos? Awful mobsters. But I loved it. Thanks for this.
If the show had followed Ralph instead of Tony I can virtually guarantee it wouldn't have been a success. Humanizing the monster is what the Sopranos did best.
When people admire bullies more than decent people, they end up placing exactly such bullies over themselves, to govern them, to rule over them, and they themselves then feel legitimized in giving full vent to their hostility to those they don't like, having been restrained before by societal norms.
I’m a big fan of that chef.
Any relation of Peter Radeck's nickname to black pete, the controversial netherlands holiday character? Also, we basically only have two written accounts of Bully's death; from Charles Elson, who said the cook was responding to threats, and Louis Becke, who alleged the crew conspired to kill him in order to steal his buried money.
Thank you.
Every good story has pirates.
I'm still working on grog in Ohio. I think we forget the huge inland seas North America because we call them lakes.
Hell, they can shift the temperature by 50 degrees in a day, and some of the storms on those lakes have sent sturdy ships down into mud.
They are very impressive.
Just today I was thinking about we will reward people for behavior we say we don’t approve of. As if we’re begging people not to act a certain way because in response we have little choice but to do what they want. Aggressive salespeople, childish adults throwing tantrums, sexually aggressive men, politicians, they act a way they know will reward them. Rational people should know better.
Somebody has to write the story of that good guy the cook
I sincerely doubt he was a good guy just because he murdered the bad guy
@@RareEarthSeries I wouldnt know really, but at least he put him to rest, since apparently Bully never went to prison, or was never caught
He briefly went to prison of a sorts, he just broke free. It was upon breaking free he was murdered.
"Born in Ohio"
Ahh... cue me letting out a series of explicatives again.