Anycubic Fire Hazard?? - PrintFixFriday 173

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  • @gunzjones
    @gunzjones 25 днів тому +2

    ad5m is great. have over 200 hours on mine in the last few months. printed enclosure and also in a tent. It's quiet enough and no issues after tuning for the filament.

  • @Mr424242424242424242
    @Mr424242424242424242 25 днів тому +2

    Honestly, for death blobs, I'd say that the thermal stripping blade for a soldering iron(they come with butane ones, they're basically a wedge you can use as a knife) is one of the best ways to slowly and carefully cut away a death blob, where you can then use a pair of pliers to grab the pieces you cut away and carefully pull them out without ripping any cables out.
    It's cheaper than the hotair station at least, and really quite handy if you want to just quickly cut a 3d print apart.

  • @marcfair3d
    @marcfair3d 25 днів тому +5

    Investigate the following:
    We had a user with a Kobra 2 Plus a few days ago which had a burnt PTFE Tube and was about to burn but was turned off before a fire could occur.
    Take a look at the hotend. The PTFE Tube on the Kobra 2 Series goes down directly to the top of the hotend. Perhaps that's an issue on the Kobra3, too. If then the hotend gets over 240 degrees or so, the PTFE can start to melt and flow down on the Hotend.

    • @Buildonsound
      @Buildonsound 25 днів тому +1

      i got a kobra 2 neo and the PTFE tube also goes straight in to the hotend, and if i am right this was with my Kobra Go as well.
      Never been really a issue but glad i dont use those printers no more.

    • @MattWeber
      @MattWeber 25 днів тому +2

      PTFE to the hot end has been the default of any hot end that isn't "all metal" for better part of a decade.. For some not only to the hot end, but literally TO the nozzle for some cheap brands that were meant to only run PLA. It was the most economical and most user serviceable solution and used by EVERY hobbyist brand. That is where it also became important to know that if you want to print filaments outside of PLA, PETG, we had to upgrade to a full metal hot end. Also PTFE will not melt at 240.. not even at 300C.. it simply starts to warm up and become malible at 260 and starts releasing fumes you don't want to be around. PTFE "flowing" wont happen at anything a hobby level 3d printer can reach. It may become soft enough that abrasive filaments can peel filings of it off that end up in your hotend though.
      In comparison, i was very surprised that Bambu by default has all metal hot ends even on the A series, at their price point for the A series.

    • @BackseatGamingJesus
      @BackseatGamingJesus 14 днів тому +1

      Hey, Kobra 2 Neo here, that isnt the case for my model, stops about 8mm above. So yea, maybe that is the issue

  • @davethebuskeruk
    @davethebuskeruk 23 дні тому

    Another great video mate. What scares me is not that printers can burn up it's that some people believe it can't happen :( We are working with machines that are designed to melt plastic at high temperatures, of course there's room for it to go wrong :) This is why I have installed extra fire alarms, keep a fire blanket and extinguisher to hand and don't set prints running when I know I won't be home. That is before we look at the specifics of certain printers that seem to ship with faults or less than ideal components.

  • @troyj3292
    @troyj3292 25 днів тому +1

    Yep, had 1 of 20ish wires in my cable chain go bad with very little external indication where it was. Fun to chase down.

  • @AndrasBuzas1908
    @AndrasBuzas1908 25 днів тому

    Grant always making the best 3d printing videos of the week 😁

  • @CrushinItAllDay
    @CrushinItAllDay 25 днів тому

    Great vid guys!!! Keep making awesome!!🤘🤘

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +1

      Thanks man! We miss you in the server ;)

    • @CrushinItAllDay
      @CrushinItAllDay 24 дні тому

      Times are really hard this holiday season. My surgery has really f'ed up a lot of things financially. Miss you guys too! Happy New Years! Say "What's up!" top everyone for me and, especially MADCAT.

  • @MattWeber
    @MattWeber 25 днів тому +2

    @16:00 is why I am against people printing X or Y cable chains, but do nothing to upgrade the wiring that is flexible enough to be contained in a cable chain. Your average printer wiring will either work harden like shown, be bent at a higher angle than if not in a chain and result in issues over time, or simply the chain rub the wiring and wear off through the sheathing and risk shorts. Z axis move so slow and in small increments in comparison that it many times can be chained without risk, but XY movement can very quickly wear out wiring. Proper wiring made for cable chains has a more silcone inclusive sheathing and usually higher strand count to handle the flex and wear of the chain friction.

  • @rossc12345
    @rossc12345 23 дні тому

    6:05 also check the nozzle is clean before starting print. Had a similar issue with Voron Tap where the first few probe points (bottom left) would be way off from rest of points due to a tiny bit of plastic on nozzle that would knock/fall off after a few probe points.

  • @jvoric
    @jvoric 25 днів тому +2

    Ahhh my clip raised its head once more a year later! 😂👍🏻

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +2

      Figured you would enjoy it!

    • @jvoric
      @jvoric 24 дні тому

      @@3DMusketeers oh yeas!

  • @Vopac
    @Vopac 25 днів тому +1

    I have a Kobra 3 and I have observed that the Hotend wires (Black) are rubbing against the screw holding the part cooling nozzel in place on the inside of the cover showing black dust and damage on the cable to the nozzel.
    This would have short circuited the hotend if not rectified.
    Quickly sorted with some electric tape covering the screw.

  • @Vojtasak-mk4
    @Vojtasak-mk4 25 днів тому +1

    is that sovol mess PLA? Because there's literally a sticker in the image that says, 'Open door when printing PLA

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +2

      not sure. but that is not a heat creep issue

  • @tinaschulz3514
    @tinaschulz3514 23 дні тому

    Hiya Grant,
    I think the problem on the Sovol SV08 could be that the part wrapped at the front left corner. It looks like the part lifted up there.
    I had the cable problem with the canbus cable of a BTT SB2209. I used the included cable in my drag chains. After just ~100h of printing on my Voron V2 the prints were stopping at different heights. After some painstaking tests, I found out the error happened at roughly the same X-Y position. I took the cable out, dissected it and found out the CanL cable was broken inside the insulator. Now my V2 runs with an Ölflex cable and no problems whatsoever. I will never use an included canbus cable of any canboard in the future again. I don't know why the factories of can boards do not include a high quality cable in their kits, as I would gladly pay more for a kit with an Ölflex or other branded cable which is certified to run in cable chains. The whole troubleshooting to so long and costs more than to pay for an upgrade for the proper cable. 100m of Ölflex cable are ~95€ which would result in added ~4€ bare costs to the can kit. even if the factory would double the price of it to let's say 10€ additional cost, I would gladly pay for it. Unfortunately even after raising the issue on discord with BTT, there is not even a warning not to use their cable in drag chains, not in the manual nor on the biqu product page, as I suggested to them.

  • @billc5557
    @billc5557 25 днів тому

    Props to the editor for the Jurassic Park clip. :*Chef's kiss*:

  • @BackseatGamingJesus
    @BackseatGamingJesus 14 днів тому

    Hmm,I have AnyCubic Kobra 2 Neo. Default PLA settings is only 190c. Maybe they lowered it because of this issue?

  • @3DandTeePrinting
    @3DandTeePrinting 25 днів тому +1

    Yeah, as a owner of the Kobra 3, I still can't recommend it. It's inconsistent and they are still working out the bugs almost 6 months later.
    Leaky hotend, Bad firmwares, Horrible Cable Management setup, Z Rod Coupler Rubbing, Bad Wiring, and Z-Offset not saving.
    Just Spend the Extra Money and Get the A1 combo that the Kobra is Copying from anyway.

    • @Vopac
      @Vopac 24 дні тому

      Can just agree, should have gone for the A1 as well.

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 25 днів тому +1

    The burnt up part, are you trying to print a carburetor?
    kinda looks like it, lol

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 25 днів тому

    I did get the new PP bed in yesterday. Looking forward to that. It's for PP and also apparently TPU.

  • @shanepearce1629
    @shanepearce1629 25 днів тому

    would check under build plate nothing stuck on magnet that is lifting build plate

  • @LittleNepomuck
    @LittleNepomuck 25 днів тому

    For the cable inside the drag chain... the best thing is to replace the cable itself or the full wire assembly. But you would need the extraction tool for the pins so the connector does not get damaged. Tbh buying a new cable assembly would be my option, if I would not have decided to go CANbus now.
    And for everyone who might think soldering would be ok. No. Don't solder such broken cables which move a lot. They will fail 100%, and they will fail sooner than later.

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +1

      yup! I would replace the whole loom too!

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 25 днів тому

    I was testing the mk3.5 + mmu3 combo. It was going good until the purge tower fell off. That's what I get for printing on a bed I haven't cleaned at all in at least 6 months. lol

    • @timmy7201
      @timmy7201 25 днів тому

      I've been wiping my mk4's bed with just some dry toilet paper, for almost a year now ...
      Maybe it's time I give it a decent wipe 😂

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 25 днів тому

    My experience with the SV07's at least. they are perfectly fine until you fall asleep.
    then all hell breaks loose. usually, by my reconng, about 20 minutes after you are out for the night

  • @myredeemerlivesakatom2314
    @myredeemerlivesakatom2314 25 днів тому

    Make sure you use motion system rated wires/cables.

  • @oneanother1
    @oneanother1 25 днів тому

    The issue with any cubic it that their therrmal protection settings are unknown. They don't let you access the firmware settings on the kobra 2 pro, max, and plus. My kobra 2 pro doesn't off the bed nor hotend during preheat at all forafter an extended period of time. I don't know if the kobra 3 are having the same problems, after seeing these issue, I'm not buying anything from any cubic without an open source firmware.
    Anycubic as a company doesn't fix their problems, they just release a new 3d printer a year later with even more problems. They also rush their products to the market with a ton of issues.

  • @NoMercyFtw
    @NoMercyFtw 25 днів тому

    They got silicone ones that outperformed the metal splash guards all day

  • @tshev
    @tshev 25 днів тому

    What do you think about kitchen organizers using 3D-printers? It feels a bit uncomfortable using PETG for that. Dichloromethane would give a bit more peace of mind, but still a bit concerning regarding the creation of a surface, which is perfect for bacteria. PP might be the alternative, but I am still unsure.

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +1

      Dichloromethane is too dangerous IMO (says the guy that uses it all the time...)
      PP is definitely an alternative but layer lines are still the issue. TECHNICALLY I would think that if it is always dry it SHOULD be fine, but I am not a scientist. you could always coat it a bit in epoxy or something but that of course removes the print and go fun of 3d printing...

    • @tshev
      @tshev 25 днів тому

      @@3DMusketeers Do you apply dichloromethane using a brush?

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому +1

      syringe and blunt tip needle for my use cases. Using it as a thin chemical adhesive. Taking as many precautions as I can.

    • @tshev
      @tshev 25 днів тому

      ​@@3DMusketeers Have you tried it to remove layer lines? A friend of mine tried doing that for a PLA toy using a brush, and it was a success. Still, I hesitate to use it even though I have a MILLA mask with an A2 filter.

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 25 днів тому

    cable fails; one of my printers started to develop a thermister fault with instant shutdown (fortunately) every time it ran more than 4 inches above the bed.
    @#$%$ ribbon cables. After receiving my replacement printer, I ended up carefully setting up the ribbon cable path to spread the flex across the entire cable as much as possible. zip ties in the right places (some intentionally very loose).

  • @diesel-gamer
    @diesel-gamer 23 дні тому

    With multiple printers myself, I am kinda disappointed with the overall negative views on the kobra 3. I also have 2 bambus, another kobra 2 and 2 crealitys. It does scare me that there have been a couple fire posts I’ve seen, but actual print quality I’ve had nothing but good luck. Have had more issues with my p1p than either of my anycubics. But I guess it just shows that each person is different and it can majorly vary machine to machine.

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  23 дні тому

      definitely some variability. Keep an eye on those wires and connectors though.

  • @robertroy6094
    @robertroy6094 25 днів тому

    I have to side with Grant on this.

  • @Yash-c3v
    @Yash-c3v 25 днів тому

    First one has GOT to be bait 😅

  • @shanepearce1629
    @shanepearce1629 25 днів тому

    this may be the hot end anycubic kobra 3 nozzle leaking
    Announcement Regarding Free Replacement of the Quick- ...Anycubic
    21 Aug 2024 - If your device has experienced filament leakage at the hotend, please see the images below for reference.

  • @roblutter
    @roblutter 25 днів тому

    Did Anycubic use the same factory as QidiTech used for the X-Plus 4? *ba dun thiss*

  • @madmaxh3
    @madmaxh3 25 днів тому

    Grant, you don't need no stinkin' hard hat (with your hard head, lol)

  • @vilainlechat7187
    @vilainlechat7187 25 днів тому

    Anycubic... kobra 2... my first printer.... was returned because shorted itself with melted bed cables but support sent me a bed replacement... but yeah the mainboard was dead so... I have a kobra 2 bed for free and they refund me the printer.... never china printer again.

    • @c.k.l.2154
      @c.k.l.2154 25 днів тому

      Qidi q1 pro no problem at all…

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy 25 днів тому

    I'm just going to be "that guy" and say that if you cook bacon in a teflon coated pan you don't deserve bacon. Cast iron for the win. If grandma could cook in cast iron and not have it stick you can too. Bonus points for cast iron being non-toxic.
    For the anycubic kobra 3 fire, I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if it was one of the early ones that has the defective nozzle. Many of them are getting HORRIBLE blobs and if they aren't caught in time...well you can see the result. Oddly enough their solution seems to be to GLUE the nozzle into the hotend. Lots of complaints on r/anycubicoffical. Methinks that anycubic will be facing a similar public relations issue as Qidi did. If they were smart they'd just send out replacement re-engineered hotends to every owner AND include one with every new sale PLUS stop selling them until they replace them in EVERY one they still have in the warehouses. But this is exactly why I will NEVER be an early adopter for ANY product. I say let the suckers jump in the front of the line and pay to be beta testers. I'll consider buying once they've come out with the second, or even third, revision.

    • @Vopac
      @Vopac 25 днів тому +1

      Microwave is the way to cook Bacon ;)

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому

      I too enjoy the love of cast iron from time to time, however the convenience factor of non stick CAN be nice. Depends on how much time I have or if I have not abused the cast iron somehow accidentally...

    • @AndrasBuzas1908
      @AndrasBuzas1908 25 днів тому

      Stainless steel...

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  25 днів тому

      I always seem to get the temp wrong on stainless, but that is 100% operator error lol

    • @Enjoymentboy
      @Enjoymentboy 25 днів тому

      @@3DMusketeers I still have, and use, my grandma's cast iron skillet she got as a wedding present from her mother-in-law in 1936. the ONLY teflon I own is the bowden tubes in my parts bin. 😁😁

  • @Buildonsound
    @Buildonsound 25 днів тому

    happy new year!

  • @GETS3DPrinting
    @GETS3DPrinting 25 днів тому

    i have a kobra 3 and im local to you lol

    • @3DMusketeers
      @3DMusketeers  24 дні тому

      We should chat... Send me a DM or just text the shop number.

    • @GETS3DPrinting
      @GETS3DPrinting 24 дні тому

      @@3DMusketeers i messaged you on facebook.