Arrest For Not Engaging With Police AKA Silent treatment
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my videos take a long time because of all the research to get as much information as i can and FOI requests take time. I'm waiting of the results from a FOI request's and then ill be making more video's i don't want to just go and look for a reaction.
I gave details and got let go straight away. Didn't fancy cells
It bullshit that section is getting abused now. Are you planning on suing?
@pinac-audit yep 100 percent. Claim getting sent soon.
Get on to your solicitor ash, you were arrested because you didn’t respect his authority and ego
Should of let him take u in just to see what the clowns tried to charge u with. The longer ur in the bigger the claim.
@@AshPhillipsyou got details of the officer? Would love to swamp him with complaints.
Your under arrest for being silent , you have the right to remain silent .
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Threaten me? ATTACK me? Try to put ME in chains, kidnap and throw ME into a cage, for ENJOYING my Rights?
That's the precise moment this Govt. *MOBSTER* (And any of his cohorts, should they be present and choose to attempt the same), will hear the business end of the Second Amendment.
Try it. Play those 'FAFO' games against THIS Citizen/USMC Veteran.
I f*cking dare him/them.
You have the right to remain silent until you can speak to a lawyer and he can speak for you. Carry are card stating- I have a right to remain silent, please appoint a lawyer for me so that he can speak for me.
😂😂😂
No worries mate just read some of his palm!!!!!😮
Sue !! Unlawful arrest ! Utterly ridiculous !!
Three police cars turn up on flashing lights for a guy acting lawfully. The police are not understaffed.
Probably hitting 80mph in a 30 to get there too.
It’s easier than fighting crime.
Being saying it for years, total myth that the filth are undermanned.
But clearly un or inadequately trained.
Arrested for not speaking then told :-
“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”
Excellent 👍
oh please sue him personally. he obviously doesn't know his job..so he doesn't deserve it
He wears the uniform of power so he doesn`t need to know his job. Same as the other wearer`s of the uniform of power.
This type of officer should never be a police officer they are more suited to flipping burgers A complaint should be followed up
Are you implying that because this cop is corrupt ,has no idea on how to carry-out his duties correctly and is basically a rude and demanding person while on duty , only has the skills for " flipping burgers " ? That is an insult to the hard-working , honest and polite people who deal respectfully with the public , and this cop clearly shows he has none of those qualities. I say he is perfectly suited for what the top brass consider needed to be a tyrant and treat innocent people in the way they do. Trash !
He can be a writer because he made up a dramatic story from nothing.
Flipping burgers takes knowledge and working for your wages, neither of which is applicable to this 🐷
Criminalising a legal activity, thank you for showing us the unfortunate state of our police.
And normalising criminal activity!! i.e. theirs!!
The copper should be disciplined and retrained and conpensation paid
"arrested on suspicion of not giving your details" that's a new one
The law states you have the right to remain silent. If you can do that to the police then you do it with anyone. End of story.
Apparently, it's now anti-social to remain silent. Funny that, it used to be a right in this country. The Police Officers who do this need to be prosecuted in court every time for malfeasance in a public office, regardless of how your solicitor wants to proceed. If your solicitor won't prosecute, then represent yourself in court, and call all parties as witnesses, especially the ignorant workers, as it's the only way that they'll learn the law.
As other people have said case law =Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location. = equals false arrest.
With the disgustingly poor standards of policing in the UK we're totally screwed already.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
Wow how uneducated do you have to be, that is totally disgraceful behaviour, 3 police cars and not one officer said he is doing nothing wrong, so if you say nothing it will be held against you 😡😡😡😡😡
That cop was dropped on his head at the police academy. It is the only thing that explains his actions.
He could also have been bullied at school.
The police geezer said "You are shaking", I wonder why. Could it be that the multitude of people walking up to Ash putting their hands in his face, threatening him with the police may have caused him distress. The only people in this video committing crimes are the factory workers and the copper with the threat of a section 50 and illegally obtaining Ash's details under threat of arrest. Well done Ash, you got them good Mr !
This is worrying. When police can arrest you for not engaging with them, or showing them your identification when you are going about your lawful business, it becomes a police state.
There is an ACPO has issued a new letter to all police forces about public photography
Arrested for being silent.. "you have the right to remain silent..Oh hold on a minute.."
The right to remain silent ill never talk to them ever
The difference between a police state and not a police state is this. In a police state you have to engage with the police. In a country that is not a police state you do not have to engage with the police. Simple, but very, very important. In this offficers mind he works in a police state due to his absense of understanding of law. There should be no place for an officer like this in the police service. He should be removed from having any contact with the general public. We must prevent our country becoming a police state. If we ignore interactions like this we jeopardize our long held, protected, and cherished freedoms.
How do you intend to prevent it from becoming a Police state ? - Walking around in groups of 10,000 or more, so that we outnumber the Police wherever we go ? - I bet the Police would just mobilise the Army to disperse us if we all did that. You can't win against tyranny, without having an Army of your own, with weapons and be willing to kill people. We might as well have Anarchy.
We need to get these idiots in front of a jury let them explain to them their actions otherwise nothing will change.
What I don't get, is if they are SO concerned that he "hasn't got permission to film me", then WHY on EARTH walk UP TO THE CAMERA giving him a BETTER VIEW ? ? ?
If you have the right to remain silent after arrest you have it prior to arrest. Being arrested does not confer extra rights it typically removes them. I guess logic isn't required in todays police force.
Sec 50 was designed to aid the cops circumvent human rights. That's why it needs to GO!
Its all about EGO with cops that dont know the law
Grasping at straws the police just can’t stand being ignored
S44 was repealed because of abuse, so they switched to S43. Bad publicly meant they were told to back off on this. Now, they have turned to misusing S50.
They are toying with sec 35 at the moment, a dispersal order ,basically.
So, if you were deaf&dumb you'd get arrested for being anti social ?
they should be fired for abusing those powers...
Gosh, that guy just after 10mins in seemed like a nice British fellow.
He should be reported to the police chief constable for professional misconduct
Lawfare where the process is the punishment is being used against innocent people ever more. This will almost certainly get thrown out, but not before being arrested and held in solitary confinement for up to 24 hours, often they'll then impose restrictive bail conditions to further punish the innocent person preventing them from continuing their lawful activity before the case it eventually dropped, since I believe often the police know there's no case, but continue along this path anyway, it makes them the criminals, sometimes it will even go as far as court and the police will often blatantly lie if they believe they can get away with it (perjury), that's why video evidence is so important.
No wonder everyone hates them
3 police cars, what a waste of resources.
Unfortunately section 50 is their go to and it's worded in such a way the old bill can demand your details by the spurious reasons listed in section 50. And once they ask for your details quoting section 50 then that's it you have to give it to them or face arrest. We need to petition the new government to get section 50 modified so that it's harder to abuse by the plod
That will never happen. Our government has been steadily giving away our rights since the Tony Blair years, and P.A.C.E. Now you expect them to start doing the opposite ? - You've got more chance of winning the Lottery.
3 cop cars park on double yellows to create harrasment to road users. They just dont get it do they?
The law ere should be section 26 contempt of ember of public by pig who abused his powers
2:20 _"I'm not giving you permission to filming me."_
Well, I'm not giving you permission to walk up to me.
I would have reminded the 1st immigrant of the laws/rules in the UK
In my country, that 'antisocial behavior' code would be considered 'unconstitutionally vague'. In plain language, even government acknowledges it can be interpreted to mean anything. It's all about people's feelings, not behavior of the 'offender'. If you are considered responsible for other people's feelings, you can be arrested at any time on anyone's whim, which is a government wet dream, isn't it?
Rice vs Connolly act 1966 overrides and legislation like section 50 you are not obliged to help the police in anyway shape or form whatsoever.
It's no wonder some police officers get followed home to their families.
OMFG the intro to this video i spat my dam tea out AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA
We sue and the tax cattle pick up the bill. Plus u won’t be able to sue him individually as he has qualified immunity. All he has to say in court is that he done what he done cos he at the time believed it was in good faith. ✌️🇬🇧
He actually doesn't have quailfied immunity in the UK. That's a misunderstanding of the difference between USA law, and UK law. If that was true, no Police Constables would ever be successfully prosecuted and sent to prison, and our UK Police would be almost as corrupt as the USA.
If they had done nothing the cameraman would have eventually walked away and they were perfectly in their rights to film him in case something criminal later occured. The first stroppy man was the only problem, he decided to harass the cameraman.
commercial film makers must get everyones permission because they are filming for a profit. Anyone can film anyone in public znd upload to social media, then if they monotise they are paid by advertisers for views on their adds and not for their content
I've stepped in better walking down the road than those coppers, and it smells better to.
There's car cam's aswell that look to the side
This police officer failed to identify himself in any way other than by wearing a police uniform, the suspect may have been blind. This police officer was wearing a body cam but failed to inform the suspect that it was switched on.
Police cars are exempt from parking regulations if they are attending an emergency while they are displaying flashing blue lights.
All three police cars parked on double yellow lines with their flashing blue lights switched off. There was no emergency taking place, there was no exemption from illegal parking.
The suspect had the right to video record in public, there is no right not to be recorded in public.
The conversation between the police officer and the suspect was consensual, the suspect had the right not to take part.
There was no evidence of antisocial behaviour, the arrest was unlawful.
This was a very poor show by this police office, how many other unlawful arrests has he conducted while a police officer.
The management of this company have no control over members of the public outside their property. Ignorance of the law is no excuse under the law. They wasted police time on a matter where no law was broken because they didn't know the law.
After meeting them on this video I really don't want to know anything from them about the galvanising process!
The manager who is both a First Aider and a Fire Marshal needs to delegate these responsibilities to someone else, his job is to manage, if there is an accident or a fire he may have a conflict of interest. What we have seen of him creating an emergency has not been impressive!
The script should have run "Good afternoon sir, thank you for your interest in Galvanised Metals, if you would like information on the company or the process please ask, if you would like a tour of the factory it could be arranged but we'd have to request for commercial reasons that you do not record inside the building." pause "Thank you for your visit, good bye."
I would have taken him up on his volunteering to impart info on what they do. They did ask if he needed help and if he was alright.. Phil.
He's merely trying to inconvenience the camera man by arresting him. At custody he'll be entitled to legal assistance and from there on a complaint can be made to professional standards for wrongful arrest. It's a £10,000 payout.
Foxtrot Oscar.
He had been told that the employee was alarmed and distressed by the presence of an unspeaking, cameraman outside his business.
This all comes down to whether his behaviour was actually antisocial or not. I don’t know the case law on whether filming in combination with eerie silence and refusal to engage is enough to alarm a “person of reasonable firmness”, which is what the test is supposed to be. You can’t simply appeal to photography in a public place examples as the officer explicitly said he wasn’t regarding that as antisocial, rather the total failure to engage. Can you drill into that aspect a bit more?
Being silent is anti social behaviour?
Now this takes the piss , Get mugged or broke into car taken , See 1 copper 3 day's later , Now man film's every right to do so 2 cars turn up ??????? why
If you had a monopod chair you could fall asleep while their talking
Stealing other people's audits and droning on like a boring bastard who's had a Charisma by pass operation.
Hope Ash is ok? And has not suffered any injuries!
Tell me... If police exist.... Does that mean you and i are being held as slaves... And is slavery not a crime?
You're dealing with street thugs who are meant to uphold the law but only have a vague understanding of the law. Good luck !
its a crime now to be anti social ?? wtf ?
Saying nothing and doing nothing and no reaction whatsoever. His only action being filming.
How this can possibly be perceived as "anti social" which requires abuse or aggression iirc. Is absolutely beyond me . This is the most passive, non aggressive, non abusive auditor of the lot. He's like the mirror opposite of ukmeetthetyrants
I know a disabled person that was denied and appropriate adult during an interview.
Wood this constitute a breach. Of Section 26. Does anyone have any idea.?
Yes, of course it would, and it would also breach several disability discrimination laws, but proving it without video evidence would be impossible, and you can guess what would happen to the video interview of his arrest, can't you ?
@@NomadicNight thank you very much for your message. You've been very helpful.
HNK solicitors need to be on this case. The police are just silly nowadays.
How can being silent be considered antisocial.... Lawsuit and a sacking!
Yeah I feel sorry for mutes.
I don’t know. The test is supposed to be if it alarms or distresses a person “of reasonable firmness”. It’s not just “being silent”; it’s filming outside the business AND being oddly silent and refusing to engage when approached by the staff. The employees looked a little alarmed, but what’s the case law?
@@JonCookeBridgethe employee has no right to demand information or even to approach a member of the public. What are you taking about? Are you really suggesting that I can get people arrested because I don't like their demeanor even though I may have engaged with them without any suggestion they wanted me to? 🤔
@@MrGhostTube When did I suggest that? I’m simply asking what’s the case law for whether acting socially strangely outside a business while filming and not engaging constitutes a public order offence. The Law says “a person of reasonable firmness being harassed, alarmed or distressed”, but that’s pretty ill-defined so there’s bound to be case law.
@@JonCookeBridgewell your honour he was being oddly silent, so I nicked him
Dear copper....please articulate my anti social behaviour???
'I'm not really sure what the issue is..' there wasn't one till plod made a tit of himself.
Anti social behavior conducted by the police.
CORRUPT WOKE COP!
and the staff who approached him and put their hands about his person
@Petey194 true putting their hands so close to his lens is threatening and an invasion of his personal space and should be seen by any judge as assault on Ash directly.
They should also loose thier jobs they where on a public street not at their place of work which was across a public road.
*Police Reform Act 2002* Section 2
(1)If a constable in uniform has reason to believe that a person [has engaged, or is engaging, in anti-social behaviour] ..., he may require that person to give his name and address to the constable.
(1A)In subsection (1) “anti-social behaviour” has the meaning given by section 2 of the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 (ignoring subsection (2) of that section).
*Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014*
*Section 2* Meaning of “anti-social behaviour”
(1)In this Part “anti-social behaviour” means-
(a)conduct that has caused, or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to any person,
(b)conduct capable of causing nuisance or annoyance to a person in relation to that person's occupation of residential premises, or
(c)conduct capable of causing housing-related nuisance or annoyance to any person.
So what evidence does the cop have that standing at the side of the road carrying out a lawful activity has caused or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to any person?
Certainly, there is no possibility of conduct capable of causing nuisance or annoyance to a person in relation to that person's occupation of residential premises since nobody is residing in the industrial premises, so subsections b, and c do not apply.
In fact, the only ones breaching section 2 of the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 were the ones milling around the photographer in an intimidating manner holding their paws up to his camera.
The arresting officer appears to be in breach of section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015.
*Corrupt or other improper exercise of police powers and privileges*
(1)A police constable listed in subsection (3) commits an offence if he or she-
(a)exercises the powers and privileges of a constable improperly, and
(b)knows or ought to know that the exercise is improper.
(2)A police constable guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years or a fine (or both).
Unlawful force and arrest. Assault and battery,
The arresting officer is unfit to be employed in the police force and should be terminated after this unlawful and ridiculous arrest.
now you obviously dont understand law
Aren’t our police absolutely terrible, abusing his powers, we need this kind of clown dismissed from the police service.
Why would you want to talk to a friend of Wayne Couzens, abuse of power should be a sackable offence ! The foreign guy that phoned the police seems to have more rights than a British person, These company`s get more protection than any member of the public because the bosses get looked after .
Hello, Police, there's a silent man here with a camera.
What do you want us to do?
Arrest him.
Why?
For doing nothing.
Some people are plain barmy.
If you dont want to be filmed why would you walk up to the guy holding the camera?
What a joke 3 police cars respond to this, but when I got chased by a traveller with a knife absolutely no one responded
They are scared of travellers, but not a man with a camera.
There will come a time when they will be scared of the public !
3 police cars, for a person with a camera, disgusting, are there no crimes, going on.
They don’t know how to do real police work. Abuse the public is all they can do.
Asking 'do you have the ability to speak?' might not be a super smart question.
The money from lawsuits should come out of that specific constabulary budget. That would start slowing them down.
I agree if they sue the Policeman and not the force it would stop all of this
You can. After a legal prosecution, I believe you can bring a civil claim for compensation against the particular Police Constable, but I think you have to wait 6 months to bring it, due to legal complications caused by 2 separate legal claims. Also, with civil claims, your only legal cost are about £50, and the other benefit is that the Police Constable cannot use the Police Force's solicitors to defend their civil claim, because their legal liability doesn't cover any behaviour that isn't considered to be acting within their Police powers as a Police Constable.
Does anyone else believe that the British police have far to much power as they can make a crime out of anything it's going to end up walking down to the shops is an arrestable offence even if someone is not making a sound it's antisocial behaviour are you fuckin kidding me. If you think that you are free, think again
Arrested for not being unconsentually dominated
I think some of these clowns actually think it’s their job to bully members of the public.
The tyrant police officer messed up big time obviously there'll be a civil claim going in, the money won't come out of his pocket but it's still a black mark on his record. 21:23
Section 50 needs to go !
Agreed, it sneaks around human rights to privacy.
Did he actually say, 'You are under arrest for suspicion of not giving your details.'??
Did I detect a 'communist accent' from the guy wearing the orange jacket and green helmet?
Definitely foreign accent
3 coppers for this ? Meanwhile my mate's stolen motorbike remains unrecovered and the thieves at liberty. This is why people get angry, no one cares about a bloke with a camera,what a waste of time . I assume this is easier for them than catching crims. God help us all.
The problem is that when you sue it’s relatively small sums they pay out. If they were really massively hit financially it would soon be filtered out by senior officers that the constables on the street really need to fallow the law due to the financial implications to that constabulary.
At first smiling then his ego gets the better of him, cannot say nothing when he is asking you questions, its not allowed, anti social behaviour for not speaking
What is antisocial behaviour?
There are three main categories for antisocial behaviour, depending on how many people are affected:
Personal antisocial behaviour is when a person targets a specific individual or group.
Nuisance antisocial behaviour is when a person causes trouble, annoyance or suffering to a community.
Environmental antisocial behaviour is when a person’s actions affect the wider environment, such as public spaces or buildings.
The second guy appeared to be doing his best impersonation of a famous salute from the Early-mid20th Century...! 😏
So scary that you can be arrested on someone else fears and feelings ... so if I was walking down an alleyway and there was a gang of youths standing at the end, then I can call the police out of "fear for my safety" and have them all I'D, searched and arrested ???
And yet i still have people i work with defending these idiots
Which idiots are you referring to ? - Idiots that you've never met, and therefore cannot form an opinion of, because you only know anything about them from what you see in UA-cam videos of them I presume ?
no wounder people hate the plod, one sided crap, they caused more distress with their approach
There is no obligation to speak or assist the police unless there is an offence.
Anti social behaviour requires more than one occasion.
Standing and filming in a public place can in no way be considered as anti social.
The only exception would be for example filming through a domestic residence window.
This is a slam dunk as filming in public without any conversation or action likely to cause distress.
Refusing to engage with another person therefore cannot be anti social . he also failed to qualify what behaviour he was alleged to have committed that was potentially antisocial
And an ex police officer this is rediculous and today it seems many officers are poorly trained and don’t have a clue
Why do they keep walking up to the camera not wanting to be filmed...thick as two short planks..be better off going to buy a bucket of steam or some sky hooks
Sec26, straight away, common law do not have to speak or assist in there enquiries
It would be a joke if it wasn’t for the stupid police. Three police cars, have they nothing better to do like stopping crime crazy?
Policeman's anti social behaviour....
You do NOT have the right to remain silent in modern Britain
No, you're right, we don't, but neither do we have to risk incriminating ourselves by speaking without legal representation, while not knowing our legal rights. I would keep my solicitors' name and phone number written in ink on my arm, to be used to contact them, when I'm at the Police station, but before I'm interviewed under Caution. We are also under no obligation to assist the Police with their enquiries. Rice vs Connelly 1966, plus at least 4 others since then.
For any auditor out there if ya not willing to take the arrest to prove your point. Give up auditing
Walks/stands in front of a camera and exclaims I don’t want to be filmed…