THE LIFE OF HENRY VII (part 2) | A King under threat | Tudor monarchs series | History Calling

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  • @HistoryCalling
    @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +20

    What do you make of Henry VII? Was he a good person and king, doing the best he could in a kill or be killed world, or a grasping usurper who England would have been better off without? Let me know below and check out my PATREON site for extra perks at www.patreon.com/historycalling

    • @katherinecooper6159
      @katherinecooper6159 Рік тому +3

      Compared to his son, he appears to have been a good king who had a happy marriage with Elizabeth.

    • @kashfiaislam9995
      @kashfiaislam9995 7 місяців тому +1

      @@katherinecooper6159 I hope King Henry VII is burning in hell with Charlemagne, King John I, King Henry III, King Edward I, Margaret Beaufort, King Henry VIII, Marie de Medici, King Louis XIV, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn, Queen Victoria, King Edward VII, King George V, King Edward VIII, King George VI, and Prince Philip. 🎭🩰🎨

  • @jillwilliams2799
    @jillwilliams2799 3 роки тому +73

    Henry 7th and Elizabeth appear to have had a loving and supportive marriage. The account of them comforting each other after the death of Prince Arthur is genuinely touching. It was a truly happy marriage, unusual in court circles, and Henry was never the same man after he lost Elizabeth. I have read that Henry 8th spent his adult life trying to replicate the relationship of his parents in his own personal life. Or is that too fanciful?

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +34

      It wouldn't surprise me actually. I think he was probably closest with Catherine of Aragon, but then he went and threw it all away :-(

    • @Theturtleowl
      @Theturtleowl 3 роки тому +15

      Well Henry VIII did grow up mostly with his sisters and mother. I share your opinion that Henry wanted the warmth and love that he saw in his early childhood, before his mother and brother died.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 2 роки тому +2

      @@Theturtleowl And he tried to get that by murdering or divorcing his wives? You have to give love to get it.

    • @Theturtleowl
      @Theturtleowl 2 роки тому +4

      @@robinlillian9471 Well, that is a king for you. Henry was rather spoiled, as rulers were.

    • @marykatherinegoode2773
      @marykatherinegoode2773 Рік тому +9

      @@HistoryCalling Part of that may actually have been Henry Sr.’s fault. If you reread the account of Elizabeth of York's death, the man totally lost it. He adored her, and became a near hermit after she died. I find it outrageous that so many historians do not want to face the fact that Henry was human: he lost his son. His baby girl did not survive more than a week. He lost the love of his life.
      And within 6 months of all that, he lost Margaret. The betrothal was part of diplomacy, yes, but there was no way he could have thought he would lose nearly half his family in the space of about 18 months. The thing he seemed to want the most from when he was young, we can speculate, turned to ashes.
      If you look at portraits of a teenaged Henry Jr, he favors his mother's side of the family. He has his mother's eyes and I would wager that Elizabeth at the minimum was a strawberry blonde: young Henry inherited that from his mother as well. It must have been painful to look at his son because young Henry Jr looked so much like HER.
      The one thing Henry Sr.failed to do was talk to his young son about his mother in a healthy and constructive way. Henry Jr. by this point was already spoiled, but what he really badly needed was his father. “Son, listen to me: it is not all knights and chivalry. I survived because I WAS LUCKY. There is a vast chasm between fighting because you want to and fighting because you have to. I am showing you HOW I had to fight to stay alive. You whine about it. Has it ever occurred to you that when you are trying not to be killed your opponent has zero reason to fight fair and being king WON'T save you?!!”
      “Let me tell you what your great uncle Richard REALLY did to your mother and her sisters!!!”

  • @naly202
    @naly202 3 роки тому +45

    Out of all the Tudors, Hvii was the least known to me. I never imagined his life was so interesting and full of action, wisdom, love and tragedy.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +10

      Yes, I think he's overshadowed by Henry VIII, Elizabeth I and of course, his many daughters-in-law, but his is a fascinating story.

    • @kashfiaislam9995
      @kashfiaislam9995 7 місяців тому +1

      I hope King Henry VII is burning in hell with Charlemagne, King John I, King Henry III, King Edward I, Margaret Beaufort, King Henry VIII, Marie de Medici, King Louis XIV, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn, Queen Victoria, King Edward VII, King George V, King Edward VIII, King George VI, and Prince Philip. 🎭🩰🎨

  • @kevinedward6132
    @kevinedward6132 3 роки тому +89

    Is anyone else gutted that there was never a "King Arthur"?

    • @snippyJ
      @snippyJ 3 роки тому +7

      Always....🙁

    • @angelwhispers2060
      @angelwhispers2060 2 роки тому

      That was kind of the point of naming their son that. It was a PR stunt to make sure that the kingdom would be United by his accession to the throne. Unfortunately he wouldn't live to make that happen. Yes they actually had a literal chance at King Arthur and it didn't work which sucks

    • @MommyNTheRoyals
      @MommyNTheRoyals 2 роки тому +4

      This ‼️ What if🤔smh

    • @ThatgeekNolan
      @ThatgeekNolan Рік тому +2

      Charles could have done it, since Arthur is one of his middle names 😂

    • @meghaPeron
      @meghaPeron Рік тому +3

      Maybe George will do it… I won’t be around to see it though.

  • @gillsinclair6927
    @gillsinclair6927 Рік тому +5

    Henry and Elizabeth were perfect for each other. She helped him be a good king and he respected her ( eventually falling in love with her) IMO, they were the perfect match. Anyone else think that if the portraits are close to true, Henry was rather handsome

  • @elizabethpaints
    @elizabethpaints Рік тому +13

    I know little about Henry VII, and was surprised about how empathetic his was towards those who tried to de-throne him. From your video, he is presented as a man with a good heart. I wonder what he would have made of his son who had so many executed during his reign.

  • @marshavilkas3512
    @marshavilkas3512 3 роки тому +35

    I love your channel! I am a medical student studying for my boards, and your channel gives me a wonderful break from studying and helps me to explore my interest in history.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +4

      Hi Marsha, thanks for watching and commenting. I'm so glad you like the channel and that it helps to give you a break from your studies. I have friends who are medical doctors so I know from chatting to them how intense the course is (and they weren't doing it during a pandemic!) Good luck in all your exams.

    • @christywilliams5636
      @christywilliams5636 2 роки тому +1

      Good luck! My husband is also a medical student studying for his boards so I understand needing a mental break. I wish you well. :)

  • @robstai9110
    @robstai9110 3 роки тому +25

    Henry VII marrying Catherine of Aragon after Arthur's death would make for an interesting "What if" scenario.

    • @beckycroll7519
      @beckycroll7519 Рік тому

      You must mean Henry III.

    • @maryanntoner4520
      @maryanntoner4520 11 місяців тому +1

      Would that have been an option, though? If Katherine needed a papal dispensation to marry her late husband’s brother, wouldn’t marrying her former father in law have required one, as well? Then again, kings have always operated under different rules than commoners.

    • @edithengel2284
      @edithengel2284 6 місяців тому +1

      @@beckycroll7519 Nope, Henry VII had thoughts of marrying. Catherine after Elizabeth died. Her parents were, if I remember correctly, appalled at the idea, and that, with the potential legitimacy status of any children, ended the matter.

  • @HolmesWatson125
    @HolmesWatson125 Рік тому +8

    Thank you for feeding my current Henry VII obsession. I highly recommend The Shadow of the Tower series from 1972. James Maxwell plays an amazing Henry VII and it is considered one of the most historically accurate renditions.

  • @naly202
    @naly202 3 роки тому +40

    English people: "We hate Henry VII because he increased taxes."
    Henry VII : "Oh really? Just wait and see what's coming!!!"
    Henry VIII : "Winter is coming!!!!"

  • @edithengel2284
    @edithengel2284 Рік тому +11

    Elizabeth of York seems a very enigmatic figure. I think she had a most difficult life: first a princess, then illegitimate; losing many maternal relatives including the princes in the Tower; waiting rather a long time to be married to Henry; and then being dominated by her mother-in-law. And if her mother's retirement at the end of her life was due to some sort of scandal, she might have felt very conflicted about what may have been punishments doled out by her husband. Yet she and her husband appear to have shared a reasonably happy marriage. I wish I knew more about her.

    • @jeanettewu2537
      @jeanettewu2537 10 місяців тому +1

      There's a nigh-contemporary account called The Song of Lady Bessy that, while including rumors and biases, does portray Elizabeth as a go-between for her mother and the Stanley-Tudor family. While the events of the song might not be all true, it certainly reflects the contemporary view of her, which was that she was a very brave, well-educated, and strong-willed woman. It also romanticized her and Henry VII into a model of courtly love, with a lady who had suffered injustices (the murder of her brothers and her uncle's lechery toward her) and a champion coming to avenge her cause.

  • @sansequanimity5998
    @sansequanimity5998 3 роки тому +23

    I love that you always share links to additional media & resources! ♡

  • @lakarox6777
    @lakarox6777 3 роки тому +14

    a pleasure to listen to your voice about stuff like this

  • @peterkelly1665
    @peterkelly1665 Рік тому +5

    Truely excellent series of presentations recommend to any who have interest in this period

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Рік тому +6

    Well Done! Henry Vll had to remember seeing Richard llls corpse draped naked on the back of a horse! I'm sure he wanted to make sure this did not happen to him!

  • @sansequanimity5998
    @sansequanimity5998 3 роки тому +13

    I would love to see a series on the life of Margaret Beaufort ♡

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +5

      She's on the list :-)

    • @kellytownsend5368
      @kellytownsend5368 3 роки тому +2

      Me, too!

    • @sansequanimity5998
      @sansequanimity5998 3 роки тому +1

      @@kellytownsend5368 I'm so excited she's on the list of ppl they plan to cover!! 😍❤ I'm really looking forward to it!

  • @snippyJ
    @snippyJ 3 роки тому +8

    Philippa Gregory got me hooked on the Tudor history. You keep it going.....🙂

  • @alisonridout
    @alisonridout 3 роки тому +6

    Hi hope you're ok this week. Thanks for this. Alison

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +2

      I'm good, thank you. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @melieflynn-hayes7996
    @melieflynn-hayes7996 Рік тому +1

    Henry went through so much even after he took the throne he faced trials and errors but he was a survivor a son a father a husband and a king till the end

  • @4sstg
    @4sstg 2 роки тому +2

    You research and presentation is the best I have found on the UK monarchy.

  • @rolandrothwell4840
    @rolandrothwell4840 3 місяці тому +1

    This channel is so brilliant and informative 👏 👌 👍

  • @ivyrose779
    @ivyrose779 3 роки тому +13

    I love your channel! Thank you so much for all the time and effort I’m sure this takes!

  • @onagaali2024
    @onagaali2024 2 роки тому +3

    I was impressed when you mentioned at 2:50/51 "The Red Queen" concerning Lady Margaret Beaufort the, book about her by Philippa Gregory. I actually have that book and many other of her titles.

  • @megbenham
    @megbenham 2 місяці тому

    I think we are long overdue for a video on Jasper. I am fascinated by him and the almost fatherly role he played to henry

  • @jamellfoster6029
    @jamellfoster6029 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome channel. Very detailed...

  • @santiagomartin2696
    @santiagomartin2696 3 роки тому +8

    Could you do a Richard III video?

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +7

      The Princes in the Tower are on my list, so that should include a good dollop of RIII history. :-)

  • @beastieber5028
    @beastieber5028 Рік тому +2

    Ilove your video on history

  • @sansequanimity5998
    @sansequanimity5998 3 роки тому +4

    I also really enjoy Phillippa Gregory! It's not always accurate, but boy is it entertaining lol

  • @missashforth8583
    @missashforth8583 3 роки тому +4

    Would you ever consider doing a video on Sir William Stanley? You've mentioned him in this video (William Stanley, 1435-1495) and he's my ancestor (via his daughter by Elizabeth Hopton, 'Joan' or 'Jane' Stanley).
    I feel like he's lesser known than his brother Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby. I'd love to see it; your videos really bring people of the past back to life!

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +3

      Hi, thank you for your comment. I'm glad you like the videos. It would really depend on what sources were available and if I thought I could do a good video on him. It can be tricky to gather up information about lesser known people of that era (even if they were aristocratic) given how much material has been lost in the intervening centuries. That's an amazing family tree you have though. I wish mine was that interesting!

    • @missashforth8583
      @missashforth8583 3 роки тому +1

      @@HistoryCalling thank you for taking the time to reply to me. I understand the struggle, his brother Thomas Stanley would be much easier to make a video on!
      He's my most recent (famous) aristocratic ancestor really - his daughter Jane (or Joan) married Sir John Warburton (Sheriff of Chester, and Knight of the Body to King Henry VII).
      Whether you are able to gather the information for a video or not, thank you for your great videos (and accent!)

  • @lorrainecasey749
    @lorrainecasey749 3 роки тому +6

    I only found your channel a couple of weeks ago and I’ve binged it. I don’t know if it’s your voice or the little bit of humour or the way it’s worded to make it so easy to understand but it’s brilliant 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼one question🤔when his relatives were executed for treason was that by H D and Q

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Lorraine. It took me a moment to get H D & Q, but I'm assuming the middle word there is drawn (it might be best not to type it all out actually, I'm not sure how tight the algorithm is about referencing things like that). No, as far as I recall, the Plantagenets who were executed died by axe.

    • @lorrainecasey749
      @lorrainecasey749 3 роки тому

      @@HistoryCalling thanks for the reply 😁and yes correct middle word

  • @danniis9444
    @danniis9444 2 роки тому +6

    King Henry V11 is the polar opposite of his namesake and next to the throne. He was a loving husband and good to his children unlike his son Henry V111 who was a disgraceful husband and abusive parent.

  • @edithengel2284
    @edithengel2284 Рік тому +3

    Trivia note: Edmund de la Pole, 3rd Duke of Suffolk was Geoffrey Chaucer's great great grandson.

  • @cindystarling7401
    @cindystarling7401 2 роки тому +2

    Definitely fascinating yet Absolutely despicable

  • @nyckolaus
    @nyckolaus 7 місяців тому

    Magnificent again!

  • @bridgettehutton646
    @bridgettehutton646 2 роки тому +3

    Wow!! What a brutal, murderous time to have lived in, everyone was rivalling each other for power while at the same professing God and power!!

    • @beckycroll7519
      @beckycroll7519 Рік тому

      Hmm, not so different than today. People are people and make the Sam unwise decisions over and over.

  • @kriscrear
    @kriscrear 3 роки тому +2

    Me encanta tu canal, es una pena que no pongas subtítulos en español, son necesarios para seguirte con la certeza de comprender a cabalidad, igual seguiré pendiente de tus publicaciones

  • @thomasblake1113
    @thomasblake1113 3 роки тому +6

    Your research is very thorough, as evidenced by your extensive bibliographies at the end of each episode. Well presented and enjoyable. You're the MystEry lady though; you gonna tell us who you are and some biographical information at some point?

  • @beastieber5028
    @beastieber5028 Рік тому

    Hello to history calling from Bea😊

  • @katherinecooper6159
    @katherinecooper6159 Рік тому +3

    To be honest, Henry the seventh, with a lot better person than his next person to take the throne i.e. Henry the eighth!

  • @DMS-pq8
    @DMS-pq8 3 роки тому +3

    You need a scorecard for all the Yorks

  • @rolandrothwell4840
    @rolandrothwell4840 3 місяці тому

    Henry vii was brilliant @ holding onto power, heading off rebellion x 3 (the Cornish & Lambet Simnell) and creating good alliances and gaining the marriage commitment of the princess of Castille and Aragon (a significant power at the time). His deficits were the punitive taxation programme, the spies, and the encouragement of denouncing " neighbours" to avoid harsh state treatment through fines that were impossible to repay. The people gave a sigh of relief when Henry vii died 😔

  • @Fairtheewell1485
    @Fairtheewell1485 Рік тому +1

    Is there any other evidence besides the money and yorkist paraphernalia at Stanley's home implicating him supporting Warbeck? I'm trying to find extra stuff.

  • @danielrichwine2268
    @danielrichwine2268 Рік тому +6

    Two random facts. The death of author and the fact that Catherine never had a boy, arguably changed European history forever.

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 3 роки тому +3

    so how long did it take to Negotiate a royal marriage contract? Or any Nobel one. I’m assuming it’s not “hey let’s get hitched bobs your uncle done”
    It must have taken such a long time to do anything back then, like if Canterbury cathedral brunt down or something you wouldn’t have known about it for days in London.

    • @HistoryCalling
      @HistoryCalling  3 роки тому +3

      Literally years! :-) There would be negotiations, proxy marriages, more negotiations etc etc. Usually you'd need a Papal dispensation too, which could take months to arrange. Henry VIII and Anne of Cleves actually got hitched pretty darn fast all things considered and Henry VII was lucky that Elizabeth of York was right there, on the spot, or he'd have had to wait for her to travel to England too, as their son Arthur did when Catherine of Aragon was on her way.

  • @isabellebreton8284
    @isabellebreton8284 2 роки тому +3

    I think Henri VII has the nist interesring story of all tudors

  • @zimmergameszimmerc6077
    @zimmergameszimmerc6077 2 роки тому +2

    What was going on in CHAD (Africa)🇹🇩 at the time ?!

  • @georgerevell5643
    @georgerevell5643 2 роки тому +2

    If you enjoy this you'll Enjoy the Netflix series "The White Princess" about this part of Henry Tudor's life.

  • @LKMNOP
    @LKMNOP 2 місяці тому

    Find it funny that he wanted to meet and get to know her before marrying her. Since when did that ever happen before Royal marriages? Plus he had vowed to marry her So did it make any difference whether he knew her better or not? And he didn't have time? He had time to have a really big coronation. He definitely wanted to claim the throne for himself. And even though he seemed to have cared for her after they got married, it's not like he let her rule with him.

  • @monikagrosch9632
    @monikagrosch9632 11 місяців тому

    The one complaint I have about Henry VII is that he didn’t raise his son Henry to be more humble. I guess he followed the customs of his time and was very busy restoring his realm after the devastating wars of the roses though

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 5 місяців тому

      Henry was never expected to be king and was destined for the church, where having a big ego was kinda expected

  • @Micropops
    @Micropops 10 днів тому

    Henry the VII definely had every right to fight for his titles and land, but King? No.

  • @jasperhorace7147
    @jasperhorace7147 Рік тому +2

    In the over all scheme of things, the Tudors were not actually a very successful dynasty. Only lasted 118 years. Perhaps Henry VII and Elizabeth were the most successful as their blood still flows in the British Royal family today.

    • @edithengel2284
      @edithengel2284 6 місяців тому

      I would have to say, that while the dynasty per se did not last long, Elizabeth at least is accounted among the great rulers of her day, and of history.

  • @rosiellagrace
    @rosiellagrace 3 роки тому +2

    🌹🌹

  • @Moebian73
    @Moebian73 3 роки тому +2

    Good but sad ending. But all life endings are sad....maybe except a few madmen in history, like Hitler.

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 5 місяців тому

    It just occurred to me that Henry VII likely had quite a strong French accent so be he was raised in France at the French court. That’s kinda funny to me

    • @edithengel2284
      @edithengel2284 3 місяці тому

      It might have been a Burgundian accent, as he spent most of his time in what is now France in Burgundy. (Though he might have earlier spoken English with a Welsh accent as he spent his first 15 years or so in Pembroke.).

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 3 місяці тому +1

      @@edithengel2284 as someone who’s half welsh, the idea of trying to sound noble and kingly in a welsh accent is so funny to me 😂 I love wales and the welsh accent, but it’s more earnest and goofy than authoritative

    • @edithengel2284
      @edithengel2284 3 місяці тому

      @@emilybarclay8831 😄

  • @SamanthaGuyet
    @SamanthaGuyet 8 місяців тому

    I know many believe he didn't deserve the crown, arguing for or against this law or that, but honestly I don't believe his soldiers would have stopped fighting until RIII was also dead. What then? One of EIV's daughters? Or let's say RIII won and HVII's soldiers did surrender. Let's assume he was unable to have another heir with a new wife given his scoliosis (can cause infertility in men due to ED issues). Who then would have been monarch?
    HVII won the crown by right of conquest. Do his discounters also discount William the Conquerer? What about Knut (Cnut) and the Viking kings?

  • @Eloraurora
    @Eloraurora Рік тому +1

    He seems to have been very pragmatic. Even the high taxes seem more strategic (denying his nobles the resources to carry out a successful rebellion) than motivated by personal gain. (Or self-protective, to ensure that _he_ would never lose a war for lack of funds.) It's a shame H8 seems to have reversed course into recklessness and debauchery after spending his teens in a safe little bubble.

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    @jldrake3424 Рік тому

  • @amisvega9756
    @amisvega9756 3 роки тому +5

    I think the usurper was Richard III...Henry Tudor in a way I think was the representation of some form of justice?

  • @kevinhockersmith8149
    @kevinhockersmith8149 Рік тому +2

    How long did he 7th, live? How long was he King of England?

  • @amandatranculov8695
    @amandatranculov8695 Рік тому

    Hello again I just wanted to ask you if your familiar with the name Michael Hirst who is a Producer and Director at all?

  • @christinecallahan5512
    @christinecallahan5512 2 роки тому +2

    Henry the 7th took very god

  • @jimalexander687
    @jimalexander687 Рік тому

    I enjoy your videos, but you project a clear bias in favor of Henry VII -- whether such is deserved or not, it is not my place to say. Each time he murders a threat to his throne (some from persons with claims more legitimate than his own), you relate such in an apologetic manner. Not the mark of an unbiased historian, IMO. I nonetheless am enjoying your videos as a whole.

  • @christinecallahan5512
    @christinecallahan5512 2 роки тому +3

    PLEASE do N O T talk sooooo fast........ THANK YOU VERY MUCH..........

    • @okiegranny4844
      @okiegranny4844 Рік тому

      you can adjust the settings of UA-cam to go slower

  • @laneoswego6989
    @laneoswego6989 Рік тому

    Nice work enjoyed it