I’m seeing a TON of people commenting & emailing me saying that Kate Yup on UA-cam is Karlie Guse. This is totally untrue. I don’t know why people believe this, but if you look at Kate’s channel, the first video was posted in March 2018 and Karlie didn’t go missing until October. So please stop commenting this. It only hurts the investigation into her actual disappearance.
Thank you for saying that. I don't know why people would believe kidnappers would put videos of their captive online. That would unnecessarily attract attention to the situation and thus might result in their arrest.
Ashley Musick people are stupid and all it takes is one ignorant commenter or or troll to say one thing and people run with it. People also like knowing more than others. So they see something like that and can’t comment it fast enough around the internet. We live in a world of sheep
Kinda strange how he says “why couldn’t I see it?” And they go “I don’t think anyone asked.” Then he goes “yes I did ask,” and suddenly the dad starts saying there’s no point for him to listen to the tape..
They need to get the step mom in the box for 5 or 6 hours with the best pair of detectives in the business and break her stories down. Imo she's done something to her step daughter
The step moms body language and disturbing smile when she says “I don’t think it’s gonna solve the mystery of where she is” is just a big indicator of her hiding something
The police need to look in the desert... Melissa said she’s not in the desert.... it’s like she is saying she is not somewhere because that’s where she is... just my opinion
It’s like somebody is forcing her to do stuff and den she wants to go home and get help , so she told them she isn’t in the dessert when she is as a himt
Benzos actually stop a trip I've had to do it myself so I don't think that's it but her parents definitely acting funny but she was seen my neighbors so idk
Stepmom is definitely not being 100% honest because it sounds like a really bad trip acid or something, and leads me to believe there's no way Carly was in bed sleeping all night. You would not be able to just go to sleep that high on drugs especially in a bad trip...
if she overdosed she could have been. at one point after an overdose you can become drowsy and either pass out or you go in and out of a state of sleep. kind of like when you overdose on alcohol. but as with alcohol, when you know someone took too much it is important to check up on them when they are sleeping because they can stop breathing in their sleep for example. the adults in this situation were extremely irresponsible. especially if you dont know how to deal with someone who is on drugs/having a bad trip it is better to take them to the hospital before they harm themselves or someone else.
Kittysuit Yes, if you take too much of a depressant like alcohol or an opiate you will want to pass out and sleep. However, I think whatever she took or was slipped in the pot that she smoked was a stimulant. That would cause her to be awake and paranoid. Believe me, paranoid people don’t want to sleep. They are unable to, because they think a person or a force is after them, and they are in danger. I think her stepmother knew that she wasn’t in a good place, but perhaps didn’t want to call the police because of what the neighbors would have thought and the embarrassment that comes with that. If that was my daughter, I wouldn’t have cared and her wellbeing would be my top priority. However, many people don’t call the cops out of shame and humiliation. I totally think the step mother should have done more, and her inconsistencies in the story are alarming.
@@misskrystyna5038 what you said about stimulants is true, however, if she overdosed there's a big chance she passed out at one point or went in and out of consciousness. but yeah, the step-mother could've done way more. i feel her overemotional fake reactions come out of guilt rather than actual worry for karlie. whatever happened to her, the people who should've protected and cared for her failed and they now have to carry that guilt with them the rest of their lives.
Could have been acid, I used to live in the same town, not in the same parts but I know that in some parts, especially Chalfant, the parties support horrible drugs such as acid. I went to school with that girl and she was always super sweet to me when we spoke, and she always cared about me, and I’m absolutely sure she cared for all of her friends in the same way too, such a strange feeling knowing this person is really gone, her boyfriend actually is still searching for her and it’s sad to see everyone wondering how she could have gone missing.
If your child says they've done drugs, are panicking and asking you to call an ambulance or get them to the hospital YOU GET THEM TO THE HOSPITAL! It is not up to you to decide if they need help when they ask for it. It is your responsibility to ensure that they get that help. The stepmother seems incredibly sketchy to me, her stories keep changing and the father like he doesn't really care all that much? The whole audio thing is so fishy. Not even her mother has been allowed to hear the whole thing. It's not up to Melissa to decide if the audio is helpful or not, there could be clues she simply isn't picking up on. But I think it comes down to not wanting people to hear her reaction to Karlie's distress and plea for help.
Yeah I’m hs my mom took me to the er because I ate a weed brownie not knowing it at first and my friend told me laughing and thought I had known. I had a really bad experience and my mom took me rite to the er and it end up having more then weed in it. Even tho my mom knows a lot about drugs and told me to calm down I’m having a bad trip she still didn’t feel comfortable just taking me home since I was acting really irrational and panicking.
The step mother smiles as she tells Dr Phil "I don't think [the audio recording] is going to solve the mystery of where she is". Looks like duping delight to me.
Some people smile or smirk when they’re at a Whitts end, some people smile when they’re extremely stressed and upset. I know myself I sometimes smile when I’m really irritated and I feel although I’m not being understood or listened to
Hey, at the 2:24 mark of Melissa's first FB Live video, she states the last time SHE SPOKE TO KARLIE, was 5:30am .. yet all through the Dr Phil show she was stating she WOKE and saw Karlie still SLEEPING beside her ... now THAT is a pretty big damn inconsistancy right there!!! ....
True but think she possibly just meant when she last seen her.. I think the stepmom feels guilty because this could have been avoided if she would have called 911.. unlikely she killed her
Stepmother is a terrible liar and will break soon and tell the truth,she is either directly involved or covering up for her husband doing something in my opinion.
As a mother, you don’t wait for your child to tell you to call 911.. that’s not their job, yes it helps but that’s the parents job.. if it were me I would’ve went straight to the hospital. She could’ve been slipped anything and it could’ve been fatal.. they knew it wasn’t just marijuana.. I knew a kid when I went to school, he was slipped something at a party and he did not make it. It’s sad this irresponsible guardian, didn’t take her.. not saying that anyone is at fault for her being missing but I’ve seen so many fatalities. Why take the risk? Sounds fishy to me..
@@myshadow8038 I have a six seance I have this gut feeling that her boyfriend kidnapped her a six seance is similar to but not the Same as being physic
Leland Brown III boyfriend did not kidnap her, I have good intuition and did tarot readings, I know what you’re talking about when you say stuff like that, but there’s no possible way her boyfriend kidnapped her, he has friends over everyday and they sleep over at times and at that, he’s hardly home in the day and he just hangs out around town with his friends, all he does is smoke and mourn his loss and look for her, I know you probably meant no harm in saying that but I know Donald and he is really going through a rough time and if he knew how to get her back he’d do it in a heartbeat, he’s never been serious about anything in his life other than Karlie.
I don’t like the fact that in the dr.phil clip when asked about the tape, they smiled and chuckled a min about how it wouldn’t solve the case. So strange...🤔🤔
Did no one ever talk to the boyfriend? If she was at this party with him he definitely knows more. He would at least know more about what she had taken and I think it’s really weird that she just up and left this party freaking out, and he didn’t go after her or try to contact her? I feel like the parents would have called him asking what the hell was going on.
I think that every single kid at the party knows what she had taken (because they also took it) and god some part of me just wishes that they weren't kids. They're too young and dumb and tunnel visioned to understand the severity and weight of a situation like this. They need to just confess to who brought the drug they took so that police can test it etc..fucking dumbass kids make me so mad.
Yeah I was thinking the same. She called her stepmother already freaked out asking the stepmother not to hang up the phone coming out of that party and she on the second call was running down the street? Like, isn't anyone digging into this part of the story? Something fdup happened there. Also a witness saw her walking with a paper in her hand looking at the sky on the morning she went missing, that's weird.
But I think only part of the answer lies in that party and the major facts are hidden by the stepmother and the father, even if they're not converting up an overdose, didn't kill her etc they still know a lot more and are lying about stuff.
I kept thinking...surely they talked to the kids at the party, right? Those kids should have at least part of the story. Who brought drugs? Was it possible her boyfriend/friend picked her up? If you have enough sense to put on pants... you can put on a jacket. If I was this parent I would damn well be wanting to talk to those kids. And....can I just say...someone that would go on Dateline and lie on tv...has issues.
Hi 👋 I came here from a Dr.Phil’s show and interview, and I found odd that the stepmother talks about Karly in a past tense, that makes me think she knows for a fact that Karly is dead....
I'm thinking she prob had a drug induced psychotic break and was wandering around aimlessly before being abducted or willing getting in the car with someone. I say this because there are 3 separate witnesses that saw her that walking that morning. The step mother is super sketchy though. I think the reason she's lying is because she knows she fucked up by not taking her to the ER and doesnt want to be publicly shamed.
from the transcript of the call it could have even been a bad or allergic reaction to the drugs that her friends were taking, perhaps one that could have killed her...they were probably taking experimental chemicals which are often labeled as synthetic (or real) LSD in the streets. It's impossible to know if you're going to be allergic to the ingredients in these experimental chemicals so please kids do not take them!
If there were no witnesses that had seen her I would be zeroing in on the parents because they did so many things wrong in this situation it’s sad. And now they have to live with them. Terrible.
The biggest thing that makes me think hmmm about this case is the fact that Carly apparently went to sleep. People on that much of a bad trip can't sleep.
Immediate thoughts after hearing the step”mom” answering questions on Dr. Phil, she is absolutely full of crap. Fake crying to a made up storyline. And why tf did she say Karlie “had blue eyes”, as in past tense in her FB live video?!
When she was putting up a flyer of Karly being missing she said “ were using blue ribbon because that WAS Karly’s favorite color” and I immediately got chills!!! She knows Karly is dead....!!!!!
Krista G Also, we’ve all been there and have lied and changed a story up, the only reason I have changed my story or lied was to cover my ass up from something I did that was wrong! So, she is definitely hiding something and knows something
I’m seeing a lot of people commenting that another youtuber found Karlie in the mountains. That is not true. It ended up not being her at all and was someone completely different. It’s unfortunate how misleading that video is. They don’t tell you until the end that it’s not actually her.
I just watched that video, it lead me to this one actually... but he though it was her and just to be safe he called the cops and some rangers looked but it wasn’t her but instead they found some terms who had been missing for 2 days, but the girl the man though was karley wasn’t karley xx
But YOU CLAIM that EVERY teenager has a fast metabolism and have perfect bodies and is NOT TRUE. I can pledge for that. I am overweight and i hate myself. Sorry im just triggered.
In one part of the Dr. Phil episode she let her facade down for a second and you could see that she is smiling and then she tried to hide it by fake crying.
She's a good mom don't talk shit both mom's did a great job shit happens she could of got kidnapped by someone or someone did but it wasn't the step mom or dad or real mom it's someone eles look at all the evidence it's all there she smoked weed it was leased the person that obvious leased it and took her
2 things Did anyone else notice how many times the father basically laughed or giggled during Dr Phil? One of the “sightings” was someone in a hot tub...what person goes in a hot tub so early in the morning? It’s so confusing
If they were under the impression that the weed she smoked was laced why tf didnt they take her to the hospital to get drug tested and stay for observation in case the drugs were laced and had some type of negative affect on her body so sad 😞
I live near the area where this happened, and I have never heard of an occurrence like this. I was born and still live around the area, and have never heard of a disappearance before. I agree this is a very strange case , but I have been following the case every single day. I do not blame Karlie’s parents , and I truly feel she is still out there. The highway she was walking on (highway 6) is the longest transcontinental highway in the United States. She could be anywhere. I see her face everyday on flyers and pray she returns home safe. #BringKarliehome
The step mom is experiencing major guilt in all these clips... based on the state they describe their daughter being in. ..what parent in their right mind wouldn't take their child to the doctor.
I think your theory is correct. Karlie probably was in bad shape and they thought she’d sleep it off. Happened to my son. He got into my medicine cabinet and took Benadryl. Don’t know how many. Anyway, He was hallucinating, paranoid, saying strange things. Trying to run off, hitting people. Took him to the ER because I was scared out of my mind and he didn’t come down from the high of BENADRYL for 2 days. Spent the entire time in ICU.
alexus webb I had no idea Benadryl can cause that kind of reaction, i assumed it just causes drowsiness. It’s good to know, if kids are using it to get a high.
Jamila S Wow more people need to hear your story & be aware of what can happen if you take to much. I’ve ran across videos of kids talking abt “how cool” their Benadryl high was.
Even 1 benadryl does this to me. I dont touch the stuff bc of it unless I'm in the hospital. It doesn't even take a high dose, just a regular dose of it. It's scary af for me.
also huge red flags when someone tries to come up with what they think happened from the start, someone's who's truly concerned isn't going to start making assumptions on Fb live. They're going to be on foot ACTUALLY trying to figure out what happened
So true and honestly I’m listening to her and she adds details to her story to make sure she covers her back. I’m a mom and this is a tell tell sign my kids are lying when they over explain things. In the Dr Phill video she adds really quickly that she had stayed with her the whole night and how she wanted her to stay with her. Making it sound like she was keeping a good eye on her and that her step daughter was close enough to her to want comfort from her. Also she never cry’s just works hard at sounding chocked up. It’s very odd behavior you can tell she realizes that she needs to put on a show. Complete fake emotions. All guilty people have a ready to go story on what happened so they can plant that seed with police and shine the spotlight on anyone/anything but themselves.
@@kaylarenee2883 the parents of missing child Madeline Mccann from the UK, who went 'missing' in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal. A lot if people think the parents did it, as do I . This case is suspected too, the stepmom is very sketchy.
I’m sorry but how do you only have over 600 subs? It’s definitely an accomplishment but after watching this I feel like you would have at least 50k. Thank you for your hard work and passion. I subbed, can’t wait for more queen!!! 💕🌸❤️
3917 now... I just found you myself and think you have covered this really well.. New sub here girl!! I believe the stepmum is guilty and Dr Phil has said he has listened to the tape and seems legit to give them enough rope so to speak as I feel they could be suspects still as there are just too many contradictions... No need to lie about anything when your innocent... Mark my words they are suspects!! She comes accross as very fake and the witness could be wrong as I have seen many cases in the past where a witness has either lied about seeing the missing person or been in on the crime.... Dr Phil is not going to say oh I think you are lying and we should watch your every move because that's exactly what the fbi are prob doing... She is shady as hell and so is the dad...
That's crazy that you were here where there was only 600 Subs I just recently found this Channel and she is just about at 100,000 now. I love this channel! And I'm here for it👏👏👏💓
I can’t remember if you mentioned this or not but on Melissa Facebook live video she says that Karlie had been missing since 6:30 am not 7:30 am. So not only did she tell NBC a different story than what she said on Dr. Phil but also her Facebook followers.
She publicly told like 4 different stories whyyy has she not been brought back in for questions??? Like tf you can’t just change your story due to make yourself look better
I think Karlie died that night/morning due to her reaction to whatever she took. The way Melissa teared up and the way she said "Karlie" on the Dr Phil Show seems to be the most genuine and heartfelt part as in the reaction you have when you discover someone not moving next to you (deceased). Melissa feels guilty because she knew she could have done more and the same goes for Karlie's dad so they're covering it up to avoid possible neglect charges and having the other kids taken away. [Maybe Karlie did wander off and her stepmom and dad found her when she left and she passed away (I don't know what to make of those sightings)] Another thing from 27:40 when Karlie's mother is asking what Karlie could be so scared of that she wanted to call 911, is her dad (in the little clip) saying "I agree with that?"
What I don't get is why they would immediately hide her body. Teenagers take drugs, it's not a logical connection to say it was their fault, so why cover it up? Were they quite forthcoming about the existence of the audio recording or did they have to come clean later? That to me says a lot about their involvement, if they tried to cover it up or gave it up immediately.
Agreed! Totally on par with Shauna Rae, Danelle Hallan, and the like - but like them, she also puts her own spin on it. I watch all the true crime channels, and just subscribed to Rachel; will be binging her videos now to catch up :)
Sounds like bathsalts, I think Melissa and the dad are only guilty of not ringing a ambulance, or maybe the aftermath was a accident with the way she was behaving
Are you kidding me, what parent, wanting to find their child wouldn’t do EVERYTHING no matter what to find them? Most sloppy excuse over about the tape
It’s great that you’re putting this out there. Women should be there for other women. Regardless of age, experience, nobody is too good to help someone on mind-altering drugs, keep an eye on them and protect them. It’s pretty sad to think about what that recording holds, lots of guilt in that lady’s eyes.
I believe Lindsay's theory on what happened to her daughter. That Karlie was tripping on drugs and the step "mom" never called emergency services. (Still a form of murder in my opinion!) And don't you think it's convenient how that was the step mom's first things she said in her Facebook video was that human trafficking "happens" as if she was already trying to give other reasons as to why Karlie is missing to pull focus from herself.
why ask the child that? With the way she was reacting from the drugs, 911 or ER should have been the first thought. TBH, weed isn't bad if you're with the right people, at the right place and it's the right time (Also, if you're old enough too). Don't do ANY drugs with people you don't trust. With the way she was acting, I Do not think she was on marijuana. It doesn't make you think or feel that way.
Not true. I had a horrible “trip” just from eating an edible “medible” and it lasted about 36 hours. I thought I was dead. I thought I was in hell. I was going to kill myself. It was horrible. And I was all alone. I can’t imagine what would have happened if I wasn’t in my bedroom on the 2nd floor of the house. If I had been on the first floor or had the energy I likely would have walked out of my house as well. Everyone reacts differently to marijuana. I can’t tolerate it in any form. My “symptoms” of being terrified but of not knowing why sound exactly like what Karlie was experiencing. Although tbh, it sounds like what she smoked was indeed laced with a stimulant or with LSD/acid. Poor girl.
Ashley Tomczak, I’m just going to let you know that marijuana truly is one of the safest drugs. YES, people react differently. But usually, it WON’T make you want to kill others or yourself. Marijuana has so many health and healing properties. It’s many forms can cure so much for a sick or dying person. It seems like yours must of been laced too, or maybe you took way too much. I’ve never met a person who got like that from weed, dabs, or any type of Marijuana. Sure, some just aren’t equipped to handle it. But it’s a safe “drug”. You just don’t use it around people that you aren’t safe with. That has a lot to do with it as well.
In the Dr Phil video when she describes waking up and karlie ‘NOT’ being there, she makes a hand gesture. To me the hand gesture she made was like she shook karlie to try and wake her up. (Because she was there) She quickly put her hand down when she realized
Witness times can be inaccurate, if you just randomly see someone walking by the highway you're not going to note down the exact time, you're going to estimate
Yes, except in cases where someone is always in a certain area withing a 10-15 min time frame, like if you have to be at work at 9, you always leave your house around 830, and clock in at 10 til 9. Then youre fairly certain of the time you saw someone.
her mom acts like she’s crying but i see no tears.... the whole situation seems sketchy ... i can’t tell the feelings of the step mom and father either they both seem sketchy ...
emily pilkenton that type of grief puts you into a totally different place. Your grief can be beyond tears. Unless you have been in this situation you can’t understand the different ways grief presents
Crocodile Tears! (Fake tears by the murderer) This is my theory... Dad's an alcoholic, teen has been messing with drugs lately, step mom wasn't feeling this so she nix the step daughter and now.. we wait!
Mad Mike0082 I agree ! I’m always skeptical when I see a new true crime UA-camr in my recommended but I decided to click this and I’m really impressed !
The stepmother is creepy af. Her aura is completely off and I think she 100% has something to do with it. Before they even started talking about her changing her stories, I could feel something weird just by the way she smilies and talked about the situation... The only other thing I could think of is that Karlie got up to walk somewhere for the help she was denied after everyone was asleep and the person that picked her up did something foul to her. My intuition says that’s unlikely though... there’s something very wrong with that stepmother.
You cannot force an individual to take a polygraph test, any good lawyer would instruct their client to refuse to take one. There is a lot of research that indicates they are junk science, and while they are generally used as an investigative tool, they are not admissible in court for a reason.
I think the step mom was probably drinking too. But since she drove to get her, didnt want to admit it. Hence, the not remembering and the story changing multiple times. Also could be why they didnt bring her into the doctor, didnt wanna be drunk in the er. I bet had they been sober mind, they would have taken her in. She could have walked off, trying to get help and someone picked her up and kidnapped/killed her.
The theory that she od'd on their watch is the most plausible....even her facebook video is suspect, she sounds distressed but she is explaining why she is making the video rambles on about not being able to do this or that..blah blah blah..seems off to me. Not only that but she is changing her story as information comes out. She initially said she went to bed in her own room, sounds to me like she is distancing herself from the situation...then says she slept in the bed with her...thats night and day difference in details...she got the clothes wrong, until reports of sightings involving sweat pants she was wearing skinny jeans..she says "oops well she is always wearing skinny jeans". You dont have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to know in missing persons cases clothing is one of the main identifiers of as person..if she put her to bed and slept in bed with her, how in the world does she not recall what she was last wearing!?..unless there was signs she changed before she "walked out"...im curious to know when they showed that cops the video, the police should have gone straight to the house to see if their was any sign of foul play or possible signs someone had died after they heard the video. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PARENTS ARE SO LOOSE IN THEIR LIFESTYLE THEY DONT COMPREHEND DRUG USE IS NOT NORMAL! HER CONDITION WAS NOT NORMAL, SHE WAS NOT OK. ...im kinda pissed
So glad I found your channel on my recommended, you deliver the story with such empathy. I hadn't heard of this case before so thank you, I just subbed 💗
Found this video on my suggestions and so glad I watched! Love the way you presented the case and information. Glad to always fine new true crime channels. Wish you all the luck!!
sassy frass 😳 I AGREE. Had to listen again. At first I thought she said “looked over” but the second, third and fourth time I played it...it’s clear. You are right!!!
Jesse Tumpak think about it this has been on going for close to 9 months there’s no wayyy that girl is out there still alive without anyone and I mean anyone seeing her exactly why it brings me to the conclusion that the step mom 100 percent has something to do with it
I have a lot of thoughts on this case sorry for the long post whoever is reading 😂 as a former heroin addict I’ve seen, used, and been around a lot of different types of drugs. If her pupils were dilated, that is most common with psychedelics like acid or mushrooms and uppers like meth or crack. Also could be a research chem which are most often strong psychedelics which can be very dangerous since people don’t know much about the side effects and the negative effects of whatever drug it is since most are new and not tested, hence the term “research chemical.” Downers like heroin and Xanax which are very easy to overdose on won’t cause large pupils but instead small ones so that’s not likely the case here. Strong uppers like meth can cause paranoia however, so can psychedelics. but both types of drugs last different amount of times so I’d be really curious to know how long it took for her to really start freaking out and acting bizarre and how long it lasted, that would answer some questions. I’ve taken a research chem that lasted all night and the entire next day, so if that’s the case w her she could’ve still been very high when she walked out of the house which is really dangerous. I don’t know why the people at the party weren’t question, everyone of them should be interviewed along with the boyfriend even if he wasn’t at the party. they need to look at pictures and videos from the party since teenagers like to brag about doing drugs there could be some info there. The parents just give me this weird vibe all around. It’s one of those things where you just can’t put your finger on what exactly it is, but you know something’s just not right here. I’m so sad for this girl and my heart breaks for her I hope she is found alive and well or found at all. ❤️ sorry for the long post 😂
It’s not just “research chems” that can affect an individual for several days - depending on the person’s mental and physical health, the effects can be very long lasting. In fact, LSD can actually trigger a paranoid episode. Some people even display permanent personality changes after bad trips. Hallucinogenics can turn VERY ugly when laced with weed, especially if it’s actually synthetic weed, since that in itself triggers psychosis.
Sammy Sabo Oof, but it is. Both hallucinogenic lacing and synthetic weed are ingested without knowing, and pretty commonly. Weed and regular hallucinogenics are also far easier for high schoolers to acquire, because, well, they’re pretty “usual” stuff. And then bad trips are literally as common as good trips, and they always have a certain lasting effect, even if it is just aversion to the drug for the fear of the terrible trip.
Susie Choban I’ve done a good amount of drugs and have had quite a lot of bad and good trips. It happens totally. If it’s synthetic weed then yeah the trip can definitely turn bad. But I would say more often people use research chems thinking it’s acid and end up having a bad trip.
I always think it is sad that there are way too many "bad" things that could have happened to her! I admit I am curious but also dont want to listen to her recorded conversation with her step mom, I imagine the girl would not want any one else hearing it. I do hope the exposure gives someone the courage to call and tell what they know and we can find the girl!
Another youtuber about three hours away from where Karlee went missing saw a girl in a river bed who bore a striking resemblance to Karlee and called the Mono County Sheriff's Department and they were not interested in his report. He called the Sheriff close to where he lives and they sent a unit to the scene where this girl was seen that night to investigate the report, it turned out that the girl was not Karlee, but a 15 year old girl who ran away with her 17 year old boyfriend and they had been missing for 2 days and were returned home that same night. The point is that the Mono County Sheriff didn't care.
Excellent video. I had nothing heard of this case before so thank you for spreading awareness. I subscribed to your channel and look forward to future videos!
Thank you very much for this. I really like that you deliver the facts clearly and concisely. No attempts to sway public opinion and no sensationalization. I'm looking forward to viewing your other videos. Thanks again!
Thank you so much ❤️ it bothers me a lot when the media / people sensationalize cases like this. This is someone’s life! I’m glad you like my videos thanks for watching❤️
As a mother it irritates me that they didn’t take her to the hospital. I am leaning towards Lindsey’s theory. I think they were trying to cover up negligence. When I was in high school my friend Colby smoked some weed that had pcp laced in it and he was so scared, he came to school thinking people were following him and was super paranoid. That could have been what it was but I’m not sure.
I’m going back over this case and listening to everything again. I’m just so intrigued by this case. I wish we had more answers especially being a few years later. I hope one day we have answers.
To everyone: Conspiracy theories will not help this case. Accusing her parents is insane. Why does no one mention that search dogs found the last trace of her scent right next to a highway? This girl was abducted and accusing her parents is nasty
I really dont think being nasty is the most important thing in this situation. Its about finding out what happened to her and exploring possibilities. People kill their kids, people run away, people get taken. Shit happens. The world is insane.
i like the way you did this video. i’ve never heard about this girl either but the step mom is definitely guilty about something. either involved or she feels like she just really made the wrong choices with how she handled it and feels like it’s her fault that the girl is missing. which i’m not gonna lie, she didn’t do that best job... imo.... anyway i’m glad i found your channel :-) looking forward to more videos!
In the Dr.phil show, once he asked to see the tape... they kept on giving him reasons why he could not. Even lied that "no one has seen it". Step mom is drowning in guilt.
It sounds like she could have been on hallucinogenic drugs maybe even something called a research chemical, I've seen people on that shit and they act really weird and flip flop their thoughts and emotions. If she left home and was still on these drugs she could have gotten herself in a lot of trouble. Six months is a very long time to be missing. I really hope she's okay
I agree with you, sounds like a research chem, a bad type of lsd, and the first thing that sticks out to me the most is that apparently Karlie went to bed and slept...all high on drugs .. like there's almost no way that happened...crazy story
@@sarahthrasher7895 I think she might have climbed into bed and died especially if it was a research chemical. I had a friend who said he was at a party and a kid took an RC, the kid went from fine to dead on the floor really quickly.💔 I wasn't there but I could imagine it's possible to die that fast if you have a massive heart attack or something.
@@sbradley1308 Well this theory doesn't make much sense to me either. I would imagine it's very very rare you see someone die from talking a rc. I believe it happened to the person your friend was at a party with I just don't think that sort of that happens hardly ever. And then it brings me to ask why would her dad and stepmom cover that up what's the purpose? Surely they would never get in trouble because the kid was on drugs and died they were obviously naive in the first place about drugs, no way would a judge indict them. The most plausible thing to me would be she walked out of house early morning, I would say her stepmom was not in bed with her, and she got abducted. But honestly anything is possible.
@@sarahthrasher7895 I think most people who died from RCs have pre-existing conditions that they were unaware of. It's definitely very possible she walked out and was taken, it would have been very easy for someone to convince her to get into their car if she was in that kind of state or to force her in. I just hope they find her, if she was trafficked or if she's being kept in someone's home it could be very difficult to get her back.
The parents are smiling & giggling & that's a HORRIBLE SIGN!! I am a Psychologist & I can point out more than 5 different things that the parents are doing that are simply OFF.... Not that it takes a psychology degree to notice they're NOT acting right!! I'm simply saying that if they came to my office, I'd 100% MOST DEFINITELY keep poking, picking & prodding at them....
You should start a UA-cam channel where you teach us tips and traits you look for! I think a channel like that ran by a real psychologist would do really good!
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found you through youtube recommending this video to me. i heard about this case but you delivered it so well and offered info i did not previously know. thank you! i hope this case gets answers soon
Thank you for sharing this with us I appreciate it as I am new to this case. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos! I'm a new subscriber to your channel!!
My theory is that Karlie died by drug overdose and her parents tried to cover it up, Karlie’s parents know where she is but won’t tell anybody or she really did go missing and they don’t know where she is
I’m seeing a TON of people commenting & emailing me saying that Kate Yup on UA-cam is Karlie Guse. This is totally untrue. I don’t know why people believe this, but if you look at Kate’s channel, the first video was posted in March 2018 and Karlie didn’t go missing until October. So please stop commenting this. It only hurts the investigation into her actual disappearance.
Thank you for saying that. I don't know why people would believe kidnappers would put videos of their captive online. That would unnecessarily attract attention to the situation and thus might result in their arrest.
Ashley Musick people are stupid and all it takes is one ignorant commenter or or troll to say one thing and people run with it. People also like knowing more than others. So they see something like that and can’t comment it fast enough around the internet. We live in a world of sheep
It sounds to me like she smoked PCP honestly.
Agreed.
The weed might have been dipped in pcp or some other chemical.
Kinda strange how he says “why couldn’t I see it?” And they go “I don’t think anyone asked.” Then he goes “yes I did ask,” and suddenly the dad starts saying there’s no point for him to listen to the tape..
the stepmom lies multiple times.. so suspicious
4sure!
Covering something for sure
They need to get the step mom in the box for 5 or 6 hours with the best pair of detectives in the business and break her stories down. Imo she's done something to her step daughter
Believe the mom
Mother's know about their children
Notice how she looks at the dad for all the answers if their was nothing to hide she would be andwering on her own
YES!!!!Their story sounds so strange.
@@DJNAZZZZTY
Not always true
@@gottogoalltheway
Maybe not all, but a high high percentage know their children
The step moms body language and disturbing smile when she says “I don’t think it’s gonna solve the mystery of where she is” is just a big indicator of her hiding something
She’s trying to create more mystery and suspicion,definitely narcissistic tendencies or something soooo bad
ok mr detective
I believe the step mother had something to do with Karlie’s disappearance!
That freaked me the hell out. Smiling while saying that. Major red flags.
I think the daughter is dead and he parents hid her body
The police need to look in the desert... Melissa said she’s not in the desert.... it’s like she is saying she is not somewhere because that’s where she is... just my opinion
Very true!!!!!! Very very true!!!!!
Stop the conspiracy theory
Or maybe she was letting us know - she's NOT in the desert bc she knows what happened to her and where she is???
Yes. !!!!!
It’s like somebody is forcing her to do stuff and den she wants to go home and get help , so she told them she isn’t in the dessert when she is as a himt
parents gave her something to calm her down. it was a deadly combination and she died. they covered it up. MY THEORY..
Brimmy Burner yep I agree 100%
LSD mixed with benzodiazepines for example is not a deadly combo
People saw her walking alone at 6:30 and 7:30 so dont think that could be true
Benzos actually stop a trip I've had to do it myself so I don't think that's it but her parents definitely acting funny but she was seen my neighbors so idk
Heartbreaking
Stepmom is definitely not being 100% honest because it sounds like a really bad trip acid or something, and leads me to believe there's no way Carly was in bed sleeping all night. You would not be able to just go to sleep that high on drugs especially in a bad trip...
Sarah Thrasher I totally AGREE!!
if she overdosed she could have been. at one point after an overdose you can become drowsy and either pass out or you go in and out of a state of sleep. kind of like when you overdose on alcohol. but as with alcohol, when you know someone took too much it is important to check up on them when they are sleeping because they can stop breathing in their sleep for example.
the adults in this situation were extremely irresponsible. especially if you dont know how to deal with someone who is on drugs/having a bad trip it is better to take them to the hospital before they harm themselves or someone else.
Kittysuit Yes, if you take too much of a depressant like alcohol or an opiate you will want to pass out and sleep. However, I think whatever she took or was slipped in the pot that she smoked was a stimulant. That would cause her to be awake and paranoid. Believe me, paranoid people don’t want to sleep. They are unable to, because they think a person or a force is after them, and they are in danger. I think her stepmother knew that she wasn’t in a good place, but perhaps didn’t want to call the police because of what the neighbors would have thought and the embarrassment that comes with that. If that was my daughter, I wouldn’t have cared and her wellbeing would be my top priority. However, many people don’t call the cops out of shame and humiliation. I totally think the step mother should have done more, and her inconsistencies in the story are alarming.
@@misskrystyna5038 what you said about stimulants is true, however, if she overdosed there's a big chance she passed out at one point or went in and out of consciousness. but yeah, the step-mother could've done way more. i feel her overemotional fake reactions come out of guilt rather than actual worry for karlie. whatever happened to her, the people who should've protected and cared for her failed and they now have to carry that guilt with them the rest of their lives.
Could have been acid, I used to live in the same town, not in the same parts but I know that in some parts, especially Chalfant, the parties support horrible drugs such as acid. I went to school with that girl and she was always super sweet to me when we spoke, and she always cared about me, and I’m absolutely sure she cared for all of her friends in the same way too, such a strange feeling knowing this person is really gone, her boyfriend actually is still searching for her and it’s sad to see everyone wondering how she could have gone missing.
Am I the only weirdo who watched the Dr. Phil show and found the oddest thing to be that the parents were making the high girl a salad?
The salad thing was absolutely odd. The oddest. Definitely devils lettuce.
Guilty people mention details like that which have no importance
@@fionauk4509 so dr phil did it?
Is this turning in a catfight? 😂
Karlie said that that was The devils Salad 🥗 so maybe she had a gut feeling that she was being poisoned by her stepmother
If your child says they've done drugs, are panicking and asking you to call an ambulance or get them to the hospital YOU GET THEM TO THE HOSPITAL!
It is not up to you to decide if they need help when they ask for it. It is your responsibility to ensure that they get that help.
The stepmother seems incredibly sketchy to me, her stories keep changing and the father like he doesn't really care all that much?
The whole audio thing is so fishy. Not even her mother has been allowed to hear the whole thing. It's not up to Melissa to decide if the audio is helpful or not, there could be clues she simply isn't picking up on. But I think it comes down to not wanting people to hear her reaction to Karlie's distress and plea for help.
Yes how the hell would they know what she's taken and if they're acting really weird they could have taken anything!
Shes sketchy because she knows she did wrong by not getting help, that's about it. The girl took drugs and freaked out and ran off
The step mom let her die and knows where the body is
Yeah I’m hs my mom took me to the er because I ate a weed brownie not knowing it at first and my friend told me laughing and thought I had known. I had a really bad experience and my mom took me rite to the er and it end up having more then weed in it. Even tho my mom knows a lot about drugs and told me to calm down I’m having a bad trip she still didn’t feel comfortable just taking me home since I was acting really irrational and panicking.
I totally 100% agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The step mother smiles as she tells Dr Phil "I don't think [the audio recording] is going to solve the mystery of where she is". Looks like duping delight to me.
AHalloweenSky yeaaaa I cringed when I saw her smirk
Duping delight always freaks me out.
I thought the same thing! And the dad was laughing??
Some people smile or smirk when they’re at a Whitts end, some people smile when they’re extremely stressed and upset.
I know myself I sometimes smile when I’m really irritated and I feel although I’m not being understood or listened to
@@millykay3209 if you lose your fucking kid you wouldn't be laughing dude
Hey, at the 2:24 mark of Melissa's first FB Live video, she states the last time SHE SPOKE TO KARLIE, was 5:30am .. yet all through the Dr Phil show she was stating she WOKE and saw Karlie still SLEEPING beside her ... now THAT is a pretty big damn inconsistancy right there!!! ....
True but think she possibly just meant when she last seen her.. I think the stepmom feels guilty because this could have been avoided if she would have called 911.. unlikely she killed her
I thought she said the last text she sent to Karlies friend was around 530-545? I’ve heard so many different things at this point it’s so confusing
Sierra Nicole that’s what i heard too, then the stepmom fell asleep and woke up around 7 and she was gone.
Isn't it funny tht the dad never said he actually came to check on his daughter or his wife?????
@@Crystal-rj5is that's heartbreaking, all their neglecting is
I love you tubers that get straight into the storey without a hefty intro!👌🏻
shauniiox P I skip through long, in depth intros, I hate them.
Yes like the best I love it
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I agree with you...Kendall Rae and Stephanie Harlowe do this shit all the time and I hate it. I'm so glad I found Rachel's channel.
This one gives me such a bad feeling 😔 I really don’t think she’s alive
Stepmother is a terrible liar and will break soon and tell the truth,she is either directly involved or covering up for her husband doing something in my opinion.
Agreed!
As a mother, you don’t wait for your child to tell you to call 911.. that’s not their job, yes it helps but that’s the parents job.. if it were me I would’ve went straight to the hospital. She could’ve been slipped anything and it could’ve been fatal.. they knew it wasn’t just marijuana.. I knew a kid when I went to school, he was slipped something at a party and he did not make it. It’s sad this irresponsible guardian, didn’t take her.. not saying that anyone is at fault for her being missing but I’ve seen so many fatalities. Why take the risk? Sounds fishy to me..
I think the boyfriend needs to be grilled for info buy the cops and by every FBI agent
Leland Brown III he has been, he’s been through questioning.
@@myshadow8038 I have a six seance I have this gut feeling that her boyfriend kidnapped her a six seance is similar to but not the Same as being physic
Leland Brown III boyfriend did not kidnap her, I have good intuition and did tarot readings, I know what you’re talking about when you say stuff like that, but there’s no possible way her boyfriend kidnapped her, he has friends over everyday and they sleep over at times and at that, he’s hardly home in the day and he just hangs out around town with his friends, all he does is smoke and mourn his loss and look for her, I know you probably meant no harm in saying that but I know Donald and he is really going through a rough time and if he knew how to get her back he’d do it in a heartbeat, he’s never been serious about anything in his life other than Karlie.
@@myshadow8038 what happened to Karlie
I don’t like the fact that in the dr.phil clip when asked about the tape, they smiled and chuckled a min about how it wouldn’t solve the case. So strange...🤔🤔
Melissa brown SAME THOUGHT.
And at 13:40 when she is sobbing with a smile on her face.
*Duping Delight*
@@rileybear836yes, I smile all the time when something is unbelievable to me. It could be for sadness or anger, it's a natural "Wow" reaction for me.
Not when is has to Do with your child potentially being dead
Did no one ever talk to the boyfriend? If she was at this party with him he definitely knows more. He would at least know more about what she had taken and I think it’s really weird that she just up and left this party freaking out, and he didn’t go after her or try to contact her? I feel like the parents would have called him asking what the hell was going on.
I think that every single kid at the party knows what she had taken (because they also took it) and god some part of me just wishes that they weren't kids. They're too young and dumb and tunnel visioned to understand the severity and weight of a situation like this. They need to just confess to who brought the drug they took so that police can test it etc..fucking dumbass kids make me so mad.
Yeah I was thinking the same. She called her stepmother already freaked out asking the stepmother not to hang up the phone coming out of that party and she on the second call was running down the street? Like, isn't anyone digging into this part of the story? Something fdup happened there.
Also a witness saw her walking with a paper in her hand looking at the sky on the morning she went missing, that's weird.
But I think only part of the answer lies in that party and the major facts are hidden by the stepmother and the father, even if they're not converting up an overdose, didn't kill her etc they still know a lot more and are lying about stuff.
@@ThimbleFox350 amen
I kept thinking...surely they talked to the kids at the party, right? Those kids should have at least part of the story. Who brought drugs? Was it possible her boyfriend/friend picked her up? If you have enough sense to put on pants... you can put on a jacket. If I was this parent I would damn well be wanting to talk to those kids. And....can I just say...someone that would go on Dateline and lie on tv...has issues.
Hi 👋 I came here from a Dr.Phil’s show and interview, and I found odd that the stepmother talks about Karly in a past tense, that makes me think she knows for a fact that Karly is dead....
I'm thinking she prob had a drug induced psychotic break and was wandering around aimlessly before being abducted or willing getting in the car with someone. I say this because there are 3 separate witnesses that saw her that walking that morning.
The step mother is super sketchy though. I think the reason she's lying is because she knows she fucked up by not taking her to the ER and doesnt want to be publicly shamed.
t mcgee agreed
Agreed
from the transcript of the call it could have even been a bad or allergic reaction to the drugs that her friends were taking, perhaps one that could have killed her...they were probably taking experimental chemicals which are often labeled as synthetic (or real) LSD in the streets. It's impossible to know if you're going to be allergic to the ingredients in these experimental chemicals so please kids do not take them!
If there were no witnesses that had seen her I would be zeroing in on the parents because they did so many things wrong in this situation it’s sad. And now they have to live with them. Terrible.
I completely agree! I don’t think her step mother slept with her that night. I think she was up all night making the psychosis even worse!
The biggest thing that makes me think hmmm about this case is the fact that Carly apparently went to sleep. People on that much of a bad trip can't sleep.
Immediate thoughts after hearing the step”mom” answering questions on Dr. Phil, she is absolutely full of crap. Fake crying to a made up storyline. And why tf did she say Karlie “had blue eyes”, as in past tense in her FB live video?!
She knows she's dead...thats y
When she was putting up a flyer of Karly being missing she said “ were using blue ribbon because that WAS Karly’s favorite color” and I immediately got chills!!! She knows Karly is dead....!!!!!
Plus the way she was talking about how beautiful Karlie is it was creepy and obvious how jealous she was of her
Krista G yes, I thought the same thing!
Krista G Also, we’ve all been there and have lied and changed a story up, the only reason I have changed my story or lied was to cover my ass up from something I did that was wrong! So, she is definitely hiding something and knows something
I’m seeing a lot of people commenting that another youtuber found Karlie in the mountains. That is not true. It ended up not being her at all and was someone completely different. It’s unfortunate how misleading that video is. They don’t tell you until the end that it’s not actually her.
Yeah it was another girl i accidently watched that youtuber's video
Rachel Shannon that's actually how i got here and how i subbed❤️
I just watched that video, it lead me to this one actually... but he though it was her and just to be safe he called the cops and some rangers looked but it wasn’t her but instead they found some terms who had been missing for 2 days, but the girl the man though was karley wasn’t karley xx
not her however he did find two other missing people which is still good i’m just hoping karlie is safe and returns soon
But YOU CLAIM that EVERY teenager has a fast metabolism and have perfect bodies and is NOT TRUE. I can pledge for that. I am overweight and i hate myself. Sorry im just triggered.
It’s so sad, her boyfriend posts about her every day on Instagram. I hope she is found 💗
Anna Eanes what’s his @?
kajzkaaksn cjskaka _ young _ beans _
Wow so sad i just seen his page😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙍
Anna Eanes what is his @
The stepmom looks evil. Or is that just me? The way she smirks makes my skin crawl.
Sanne van den Berg me too, it made me feel sick
In one part of the Dr. Phil episode she let her facade down for a second and you could see that she is smiling and then she tried to hide it by fake crying.
I agree 💯,she looks so psychotic 👀👁️
I don't trust the step mom
She's a good mom don't talk shit both mom's did a great job shit happens she could of got kidnapped by someone or someone did but it wasn't the step mom or dad or real mom it's someone eles look at all the evidence it's all there she smoked weed it was leased the person that obvious leased it and took her
2 things
Did anyone else notice how many times the father basically laughed or giggled during Dr Phil?
One of the “sightings” was someone in a hot tub...what person goes in a hot tub so early in the morning? It’s so confusing
Also the witnesses reported to the family not the Police, and the family wouldn't disclose location or full names on the witnesses?
The only person who seems genuinely afraid and concerned is Lindsay like Melissa is so sketchy and a liar.
Agreed, & the dad acts like he doesn’t care at all.
Why was they laughing whenever dr Phil asked about the tape... that’s odd
That's so weird if the dad really cares about his kid he wouldn't be so happy about it😬😕😖
If they were under the impression that the weed she smoked was laced why tf didnt they take her to the hospital to get drug tested and stay for observation in case the drugs were laced and had some type of negative affect on her body so sad 😞
I live near the area where this happened, and I have never heard of an occurrence like this. I was born and still live around the area, and have never heard of a disappearance before. I agree this is a very strange case , but I have been following the case every single day. I do not blame Karlie’s parents , and I truly feel she is still out there. The highway she was walking on (highway 6) is the longest transcontinental highway in the United States. She could be anywhere. I see her face everyday on flyers and pray she returns home safe. #BringKarliehome
I see posts about her nearly every day in Northern Nevada also
I was just on 6 this morning. In Indiana...
Melissa is sketch and I don't like the way she was smirking on Dr. Phil.
Duping delight for sure
The stepmother gives me bad vibes
The step mom is experiencing major guilt in all these clips... based on the state they describe their daughter being in. ..what parent in their right mind wouldn't take their child to the doctor.
I think your theory is correct. Karlie probably was in bad shape and they thought she’d sleep it off. Happened to my son. He got into my medicine cabinet and took Benadryl. Don’t know how many. Anyway, He was hallucinating, paranoid, saying strange things. Trying to run off, hitting people. Took him to the ER because I was scared out of my mind and he didn’t come down from the high of BENADRYL for 2 days. Spent the entire time in ICU.
But the key is once you were aware! You took care of your child! And took him to the hospital!
Omg Benadryl can cause horrible paranoia and hallucinations when taken and really high doses
alexus webb I had no idea Benadryl can cause that kind of reaction, i assumed it just causes drowsiness. It’s good to know, if kids are using it to get a high.
Jamila S Wow more people need to hear your story & be aware of what can happen if you take to much. I’ve ran across videos of kids talking abt “how cool” their Benadryl high was.
Even 1 benadryl does this to me. I dont touch the stuff bc of it unless I'm in the hospital. It doesn't even take a high dose, just a regular dose of it. It's scary af for me.
I think the stepmom did something, something doesn't feel right about her
When someone tells you to call 911, you call. Don't understand anyone not calling!!!
Exactly! No questions asked.
Kate Messer I feel the stepmother’s like, this is normal karlie behavior so I’m going to record her being crazy.
the step Moms Fb live came off really disingenuous and it looked like she was forcing herself to sound worries, if maybe that's just me
also huge red flags when someone tries to come up with what they think happened from the start, someone's who's truly concerned isn't going to start making assumptions on Fb live. They're going to be on foot ACTUALLY trying to figure out what happened
So true and honestly I’m listening to her and she adds details to her story to make sure she covers her back. I’m a mom and this is a tell tell sign my kids are lying when they over explain things. In the Dr Phill video she adds really quickly that she had stayed with her the whole night and how she wanted her to stay with her. Making it sound like she was keeping a good eye on her and that her step daughter was close enough to her to want comfort from her. Also she never cry’s just works hard at sounding chocked up. It’s very odd behavior you can tell she realizes that she needs to put on a show. Complete fake emotions. All guilty people have a ready to go story on what happened so they can plant that seed with police and shine the spotlight on anyone/anything but themselves.
Agreed... especially when she says "breath" and takes a sip of water.. that along with her fake tears. She is so guilty it makes me sick
"Ongoing investigation" Sounds like they have been listening to the MCanns
Tracey Air who the mccanns
@@kaylarenee2883 the parents of missing child Madeline Mccann from the UK, who went 'missing' in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal.
A lot if people think the parents did it, as do I . This case is suspected too, the stepmom is very sketchy.
But if it was a on going investigation they are not suppose to.be talking about it right?
I’m sorry but how do you only have over 600 subs? It’s definitely an accomplishment but after watching this I feel like you would have at least 50k. Thank you for your hard work and passion. I subbed, can’t wait for more queen!!! 💕🌸❤️
Well something happened because as of May 6th, she has almost 3100.
3917 now... I just found you myself and think you have covered this really well.. New sub here girl!! I believe the stepmum is guilty and Dr Phil has said he has listened to the tape and seems legit to give them enough rope so to speak as I feel they could be suspects still as there are just too many contradictions... No need to lie about anything when your innocent... Mark my words they are suspects!! She comes accross as very fake and the witness could be wrong as I have seen many cases in the past where a witness has either lied about seeing the missing person or been in on the crime.... Dr Phil is not going to say oh I think you are lying and we should watch your every move because that's exactly what the fbi are prob doing... She is shady as hell and so is the dad...
Now she has 50k 😃
59.9 subs now ;) 🙌
That's crazy that you were here where there was only 600 Subs I just recently found this Channel and she is just about at 100,000 now. I love this channel! And I'm here for it👏👏👏💓
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! Karlie needs justice! She hasn’t gotten enough coverage!!! ❤️❤️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I can’t remember if you mentioned this or not but on Melissa Facebook live video she says that Karlie had been missing since 6:30 am not 7:30 am. So not only did she tell NBC a different story than what she said on Dr. Phil but also her Facebook followers.
Rucker Love she also said she talked to her in that video as well.
She publicly told like 4 different stories whyyy has she not been brought back in for questions??? Like tf you can’t just change your story due to make yourself look better
I think Karlie died that night/morning due to her reaction to whatever she took. The way Melissa teared up and the way she said "Karlie" on the Dr Phil Show seems to be the most genuine and heartfelt part as in the reaction you have when you discover someone not moving next to you (deceased). Melissa feels guilty because she knew she could have done more and the same goes for Karlie's dad so they're covering it up to avoid possible neglect charges and having the other kids taken away.
[Maybe Karlie did wander off and her stepmom and dad found her when she left and she passed away (I don't know what to make of those sightings)]
Another thing from 27:40 when Karlie's mother is asking what Karlie could be so scared of that she wanted to call 911, is her dad (in the little clip) saying "I agree with that?"
Weird I thought the same thing when I heard her say her name like that.
I noticed this also.
I thought the same exact thing
"I don't think she's in the desert".....
Hmm.. do you though?
And the saddest thing is the only plea for help she had was ignored. Innocent person dies and nobody is held responsible :( it's super upsetting .
What I don't get is why they would immediately hide her body. Teenagers take drugs, it's not a logical connection to say it was their fault, so why cover it up? Were they quite forthcoming about the existence of the audio recording or did they have to come clean later? That to me says a lot about their involvement, if they tried to cover it up or gave it up immediately.
To me, seems like her dad and stepmom didn’t really pay enough attention to her when they should’ve.
Dank blonde hair??? Looks like brown in all those pictures
Mia the dankest blonde hair
nah but for real tho i agree 😂
When people are asked a question and they look at each other before answering, is a sign of making sure to keep the story straight.
sounds sketch. the stepmother knew it wasn't weed. she should've taken her to urgent care. Unless, you know, she did something to her.
I read somewhere that the step mom had her car detailed a few days after Karlie going missing? If that’s true that definitely seems sketchy
the step momseems sketch
Reyna Celeste W the implication is that the car had evidence
@reemcooks Detailed is having the car interior cleaned thoroughly.
I hope your channel blows up!! I watch all the big true crime channels and your videos are as good as theirs! Easy to listen to and well put together.
Thank you so much!!
Agreed! Totally on par with Shauna Rae, Danelle Hallan, and the like - but like them, she also puts her own spin on it.
I watch all the true crime channels, and just subscribed to Rachel; will be binging her videos now to catch up :)
Sounds like bathsalts, I think Melissa and the dad are only guilty of not ringing a ambulance, or maybe the aftermath was a accident with the way she was behaving
My thoughts exactly!!
Step mom and dad have did something
Are you kidding me, what parent, wanting to find their child wouldn’t do EVERYTHING no matter what to find them? Most sloppy excuse over about the tape
It’s great that you’re putting this out there. Women should be there for other women. Regardless of age, experience, nobody is too good to help someone on mind-altering drugs, keep an eye on them and protect them. It’s pretty sad to think about what that recording holds, lots of guilt in that lady’s eyes.
You came up in my recommended videos. I had never heard of this case & you were very informative. Just subscribed.
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I believe Lindsay's theory on what happened to her daughter. That Karlie was tripping on drugs and the step "mom" never called emergency services. (Still a form of murder in my opinion!) And don't you think it's convenient how that was the step mom's first things she said in her Facebook video was that human trafficking "happens" as if she was already trying to give other reasons as to why Karlie is missing to pull focus from herself.
form of manslaughter *
why ask the child that? With the way she was reacting from the drugs, 911 or ER should have been the first thought. TBH, weed isn't bad if you're with the right people, at the right place and it's the right time (Also, if you're old enough too). Don't do ANY drugs with people you don't trust. With the way she was acting, I Do not think she was on marijuana. It doesn't make you think or feel that way.
That's not true pot can DEFINITELY make you feel crazy and think crazy. You're definitely miss informed on drug induced mental illness.
Not true. I had a horrible “trip” just from eating an edible “medible” and it lasted about 36 hours. I thought I was dead. I thought I was in hell. I was going to kill myself. It was horrible. And I was all alone. I can’t imagine what would have happened if I wasn’t in my bedroom on the 2nd floor of the house. If I had been on the first floor or had the energy I likely would have walked out of my house as well. Everyone reacts differently to marijuana. I can’t tolerate it in any form. My “symptoms” of being terrified but of not knowing why sound exactly like what Karlie was experiencing. Although tbh, it sounds like what she smoked was indeed laced with a stimulant or with LSD/acid. Poor girl.
Ashley Tomczak, I’m just going to let you know that marijuana truly is one of the safest drugs. YES, people react differently. But usually, it WON’T make you want to kill others or yourself. Marijuana has so many health and healing properties. It’s many forms can cure so much for a sick or dying person. It seems like yours must of been laced too, or maybe you took way too much. I’ve never met a person who got like that from weed, dabs, or any type of Marijuana. Sure, some just aren’t equipped to handle it. But it’s a safe “drug”. You just don’t use it around people that you aren’t safe with. That has a lot to do with it as well.
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In the Dr Phil video when she describes waking up and karlie ‘NOT’ being there, she makes a hand gesture. To me the hand gesture she made was like she shook karlie to try and wake her up. (Because she was there) She quickly put her hand down when she realized
Do you have a time stamp for that? I'd like to watch it again and have a look for that gesture! She seems so sketchy
@@sophiamkl5932 13:42
Witness times can be inaccurate, if you just randomly see someone walking by the highway you're not going to note down the exact time, you're going to estimate
Yes, except in cases where someone is always in a certain area withing a 10-15 min time frame, like if you have to be at work at 9, you always leave your house around 830, and clock in at 10 til 9. Then youre fairly certain of the time you saw someone.
that algorithm tho
glad I found your channel
Taylor Lawrence same
her mom acts like she’s crying but i see no tears.... the whole situation seems sketchy ... i can’t tell the feelings of the step mom and father either they both seem sketchy ...
emily pilkenton that type of grief puts you into a totally different place. Your grief can be beyond tears. Unless you have been in this situation you can’t understand the different ways grief presents
It was the stepmom that I found made like she was crying, yet no tears!
Crocodile Tears! (Fake tears by the murderer) This is my theory... Dad's an alcoholic, teen has been messing with drugs lately, step mom wasn't feeling this so she nix the step daughter and now.. we wait!
I have an Erie feeling the step mom and/or dad had something to do with this
You should keep doing these !! UA-cam fed me this so it could take off.
I agree.. She is a natural!
Mad Mike0082 I agree ! I’m always skeptical when I see a new true crime UA-camr in my recommended but I decided to click this and I’m really impressed !
Thank you guys omg 😭❤️
The stepmother is creepy af. Her aura is completely off and I think she 100% has something to do with it. Before they even started talking about her changing her stories, I could feel something weird just by the way she smilies and talked about the situation...
The only other thing I could think of is that Karlie got up to walk somewhere for the help she was denied after everyone was asleep and the person that picked her up did something foul to her. My intuition says that’s unlikely though... there’s something very wrong with that stepmother.
Die hard true crimer over here and so glad I found your channel! Great detail and delivery of the events.
let's just have them all take a polygraph test about the case
I honestly don’t see why they haven’t yet
It was said a few months ago that they did take polygraphs. The results are sealed. Not even the people who took the polygraphs know their results.
Polygraphs are not used in court anymore. They hold no water. No reason to ask to take
One and no reason to
Accept to take one
You cannot force an individual to take a polygraph test, any good lawyer would instruct their client to refuse to take one. There is a lot of research that indicates they are junk science, and while they are generally used as an investigative tool, they are not admissible in court for a reason.
Polygraphs are junk science. They are often just used to scare people and I wouldn't take one no matter what other people thought.
Something doesn’t seem right
You dont say!
This video felt like 20 minutes because you are so great with explaining what happened and your opinions!! Keep it up 😇😇😇😇
I think the step mom was probably drinking too. But since she drove to get her, didnt want to admit it. Hence, the not remembering and the story changing multiple times. Also could be why they didnt bring her into the doctor, didnt wanna be drunk in the er. I bet had they been sober mind, they would have taken her in. She could have walked off, trying to get help and someone picked her up and kidnapped/killed her.
Angie Tuminelly you change your story if you’re not lying
My mom took me to the ER drunk last night. She thought my lungs were failing and wouldn’t take no for an answer lol. I just have sinusitis
Your narration is so on point and captivating, got a sub from me!
The theory that she od'd on their watch is the most plausible....even her facebook video is suspect, she sounds distressed but she is explaining why she is making the video rambles on about not being able to do this or that..blah blah blah..seems off to me. Not only that but she is changing her story as information comes out. She initially said she went to bed in her own room, sounds to me like she is distancing herself from the situation...then says she slept in the bed with her...thats night and day difference in details...she got the clothes wrong, until reports of sightings involving sweat pants she was wearing skinny jeans..she says "oops well she is always wearing skinny jeans". You dont have to be the sharpest tool in the shed to know in missing persons cases clothing is one of the main identifiers of as person..if she put her to bed and slept in bed with her, how in the world does she not recall what she was last wearing!?..unless there was signs she changed before she "walked out"...im curious to know when they showed that cops the video, the police should have gone straight to the house to see if their was any sign of foul play or possible signs someone had died after they heard the video.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PARENTS ARE SO LOOSE IN THEIR LIFESTYLE THEY DONT COMPREHEND DRUG USE IS NOT NORMAL! HER CONDITION WAS NOT NORMAL, SHE WAS NOT OK. ...im kinda pissed
Do you think Melissa walked in sweat pants so they actually saw her not Karlie?
I think the step mom is involved somehow.
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So glad I found your channel on my recommended, you deliver the story with such empathy. I hadn't heard of this case before so thank you, I just subbed 💗
Found this video on my suggestions and so glad I watched! Love the way you presented the case and information. Glad to always fine new true crime channels. Wish you all the luck!!
Thanks for watching!!
@@RachelShannon BUT....the hands...
Youve got to control the hands and stop moving them so often because its very distracting.
13:43 step mom clearly says "I looked at her and went Karlie."
sassy frass 😳 I AGREE. Had to listen again. At first I thought she said “looked over” but the second, third and fourth time I played it...it’s clear. You are right!!!
@Jesse Tumpak I disagree. She definitely said "I looked at her."
Jesse Tumpak think about it this has been on going for close to 9 months there’s no wayyy that girl is out there still alive without anyone and I mean anyone seeing her exactly why it brings me to the conclusion that the step mom 100 percent has something to do with it
I have a lot of thoughts on this case sorry for the long post whoever is reading 😂
as a former heroin addict I’ve seen, used, and been around a lot of different types of drugs. If her pupils were dilated, that is most common with psychedelics like acid or mushrooms and uppers like meth or crack. Also could be a research chem which are most often strong psychedelics which can be very dangerous since people don’t know much about the side effects and the negative effects of whatever drug it is since most are new and not tested, hence the term “research chemical.”
Downers like heroin and Xanax which are very easy to overdose on won’t cause large pupils but instead small ones so that’s not likely the case here.
Strong uppers like meth can cause paranoia however, so can psychedelics. but both types of drugs last different amount of times so I’d be really curious to know how long it took for her to really start freaking out and acting bizarre and how long it lasted, that would answer some questions. I’ve taken a research chem that lasted all night and the entire next day, so if that’s the case w her she could’ve still been very high when she walked out of the house which is really dangerous.
I don’t know why the people at the party weren’t question, everyone of them should be interviewed along with the boyfriend even if he wasn’t at the party. they need to look at pictures and videos from the party since teenagers like to brag about doing drugs there could be some info there.
The parents just give me this weird vibe all around. It’s one of those things where you just can’t put your finger on what exactly it is, but you know something’s just not right here. I’m so sad for this girl and my heart breaks for her I hope she is found alive and well or found at all. ❤️
sorry for the long post 😂
It’s not just “research chems” that can affect an individual for several days - depending on the person’s mental and physical health, the effects can be very long lasting. In fact, LSD can actually trigger a paranoid episode. Some people even display permanent personality changes after bad trips. Hallucinogenics can turn VERY ugly when laced with weed, especially if it’s actually synthetic weed, since that in itself triggers psychosis.
Susie Choban of course it can always happen anything can but it’s not the most common
Sammy Sabo Oof, but it is. Both hallucinogenic lacing and synthetic weed are ingested without knowing, and pretty commonly. Weed and regular hallucinogenics are also far easier for high schoolers to acquire, because, well, they’re pretty “usual” stuff. And then bad trips are literally as common as good trips, and they always have a certain lasting effect, even if it is just aversion to the drug for the fear of the terrible trip.
Susie Choban yeah it happens, and bad trips happen all the time but it’s not always common that an acid trip lasts for days
Susie Choban I’ve done a good amount of drugs and have had quite a lot of bad and good trips. It happens totally. If it’s synthetic weed then yeah the trip can definitely turn bad. But I would say more often people use research chems thinking it’s acid and end up having a bad trip.
She haaad blue eyes???
Apparently blond hair also...even though it is clearly brown.
I always think it is sad that there are way too many "bad" things that could have happened to her! I admit I am curious but also dont want to listen to her recorded conversation with her step mom, I imagine the girl would not want any one else hearing it.
I do hope the exposure gives someone the courage to call and tell what they know and we can find the girl!
The stepmother knows the truth and where Karlee’s body is.
The lass in the video is cute
Another youtuber about three hours away from where Karlee went missing saw a girl in a river bed who bore a striking resemblance to Karlee and called the Mono County Sheriff's Department and they were not interested in his report. He called the Sheriff close to where he lives and they sent a unit to the scene where this girl was seen that night to investigate the report, it turned out that the girl was not Karlee, but a 15 year old girl who ran away with her 17 year old boyfriend and they had been missing for 2 days and were returned home that same night. The point is that the Mono County Sheriff didn't care.
Excellent video. I had nothing heard of this case before so thank you for spreading awareness. I subscribed to your channel and look forward to future videos!
Thank you very much for this. I really like that you deliver the facts clearly and concisely. No attempts to sway public opinion and no sensationalization. I'm looking forward to viewing your other videos. Thanks again!
Thank you so much ❤️ it bothers me a lot when the media / people sensationalize cases like this. This is someone’s life! I’m glad you like my videos thanks for watching❤️
As a mother it irritates me that they didn’t take her to the hospital. I am leaning towards Lindsey’s theory. I think they were trying to cover up negligence. When I was in high school my friend Colby smoked some weed that had pcp laced in it and he was so scared, he came to school thinking people were following him and was super paranoid. That could have been what it was but I’m not sure.
I’m going back over this case and listening to everything again. I’m just so intrigued by this case. I wish we had more answers especially being a few years later. I hope one day we have answers.
To everyone: Conspiracy theories will not help this case. Accusing her parents is insane. Why does no one mention that search dogs found the last trace of her scent right next to a highway? This girl was abducted and accusing her parents is nasty
I really dont think being nasty is the most important thing in this situation. Its about finding out what happened to her and exploring possibilities. People kill their kids, people run away, people get taken. Shit happens. The world is insane.
Dr. Phil lie detector??? Or did he stop doing that after Jack Trimarco passed????
i like the way you did this video. i’ve never heard about this girl either but the step mom is definitely guilty about something. either involved or she feels like she just really made the wrong choices with how she handled it and feels like it’s her fault that the girl is missing. which i’m not gonna lie, she didn’t do that best job... imo....
anyway i’m glad i found your channel :-) looking forward to more videos!
In the Dr.phil show, once he asked to see the tape... they kept on giving him reasons why he could not. Even lied that "no one has seen it". Step mom is drowning in guilt.
It sounds like she could have been on hallucinogenic drugs maybe even something called a research chemical, I've seen people on that shit and they act really weird and flip flop their thoughts and emotions. If she left home and was still on these drugs she could have gotten herself in a lot of trouble. Six months is a very long time to be missing. I really hope she's okay
I agree with you, sounds like a research chem, a bad type of lsd, and the first thing that sticks out to me the most is that apparently Karlie went to bed and slept...all high on drugs .. like there's almost no way that happened...crazy story
@@sarahthrasher7895 I think she might have climbed into bed and died especially if it was a research chemical. I had a friend who said he was at a party and a kid took an RC, the kid went from fine to dead on the floor really quickly.💔 I wasn't there but I could imagine it's possible to die that fast if you have a massive heart attack or something.
@@sbradley1308 Well this theory doesn't make much sense to me either. I would imagine it's very very rare you see someone die from talking a rc. I believe it happened to the person your friend was at a party with I just don't think that sort of that happens hardly ever. And then it brings me to ask why would her dad and stepmom cover that up what's the purpose? Surely they would never get in trouble because the kid was on drugs and died they were obviously naive in the first place about drugs, no way would a judge indict them. The most plausible thing to me would be she walked out of house early morning, I would say her stepmom was not in bed with her, and she got abducted. But honestly anything is possible.
@@sarahthrasher7895 I think most people who died from RCs have pre-existing conditions that they were unaware of. It's definitely very possible she walked out and was taken, it would have been very easy for someone to convince her to get into their car if she was in that kind of state or to force her in. I just hope they find her, if she was trafficked or if she's being kept in someone's home it could be very difficult to get her back.
I thought this exact thing too having witnessed my friends do them, she could have even had an allergic reaction to one
Love your channel... so happy I found you!
Prayers for karlie 💕💕💕💕💕 really hope shes ok
The parents are smiling & giggling & that's a HORRIBLE SIGN!! I am a Psychologist & I can point out more than 5 different things that the parents are doing that are simply OFF.... Not that it takes a psychology degree to notice they're NOT acting right!! I'm simply saying that if they came to my office, I'd 100% MOST DEFINITELY keep poking, picking & prodding at them....
You should start a UA-cam channel where you teach us tips and traits you look for! I think a channel like that ran by a real psychologist would do really good!
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@@annalisegiovanni7032 Dont be so modest! Maybe you could figure out how to tie your knowledge and expertise in with true crime videos! Think of how many of us binge watch these videos. Especially when they're in formative. Alot of UA-camrs give disclaimers like "I'm not a professional",
But you could be the one with the know-how and studies to back up the information. You could talk about cases that fascinate psychologists or all sorts of things!
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Annalise Giovanni I think you could create an amazing channel! A lot of ppl are interested in psychology.. I would definitely subscribe!
I agree I think overdose and they panicked
HELLLLOOOO the next youtube channel I'm gonna binge watch! Thank you, Rachel!!
found you through youtube recommending this video to me. i heard about this case but you delivered it so well and offered info i did not previously know. thank you! i hope this case gets answers soon
Thank you for sharing this with us I appreciate it as I am new to this case. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos! I'm a new subscriber to your channel!!
My theory is that Karlie died by drug overdose and her parents tried to cover it up, Karlie’s parents know where she is but won’t tell anybody or she really did go missing and they don’t know where she is