Challenge: Memorize Music Without Playing or Listening!

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  • Challenge: Memorize Music Without Playing or Listening! Muscle Memory will only get you so far. We explore MM and another, more powerful method of memorization.
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  • @danielross51086
    @danielross51086 21 день тому +1

    I've been playing for 30 years. I don't know if I would have understood or appreciated any of this even 5 years ago. Interesting stuff. Well said.

  • @LogioTek
    @LogioTek 17 днів тому

    If you recognize the chords, you can just improvise around it if you blank out during performance. That's the reason improvising pianists are more interesting to listen to and they will always surprise you even if they play the same piece over and over. It's a lost art these days but back in the day all major composers and performers improvised on their own works and works of their contemporaries. There were also fun musical duels.

  • @bh5606
    @bh5606 7 днів тому +1

    Good one.

  • @patriciadubos4573
    @patriciadubos4573 26 днів тому +4

    Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Your work is so helpful - it gives me new things to think about and apply to my learning to play piano journey.

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  25 днів тому +1

      Thank you!! I hope it helps, even if just a little!! 🎹

  • @WoodyGamesUK
    @WoodyGamesUK 24 дні тому +3

    I got confused with the title, because in my mind music is what you hear, not what's written on the page. In that sense, you could do the exact same exercise but the auditory version instead: you listen to the music until you are able to 'sing' every note of the melody (aloud or in your head), and have a clear picture of every individual note or chord in the accompaniment. It's basically transcribing, like you would do in jazz for example, but away from your instrument and sheet of paper, until you have memorised the whole thing and are ready to give it a try.

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  24 дні тому +1

      Absolutely, that sounds great!!

  • @integerdivision
    @integerdivision 25 днів тому +1

    This is fantastic. The chords as words is a thing I discovered for myself that made music notation make sense - as a self-taught guitarist, I never learned how to properly read music and that insight has helped a ton.
    Great video - I’m halfway through but subbed in the first 20 seconds because the sound and video quality are fantastic. Great editing so far as well.

  • @patdavey7187
    @patdavey7187 24 дні тому +1

    I learned an extremely complicated konnakol piece by ear. It took me one year and it's up on my channel. I learned a huge amount about memory And process on the way. I'm currently learning to sing the Bach cello 1 prelude. Specifically by slowing down and looping section by section of rostropovich.
    Music is a language. Treat it like such. Doing it this way allows me to absorb more than just the order of notes but the phrasing and interpretation of this great performance.

  • @PabloGambaccini
    @PabloGambaccini 21 день тому

    There is a book by Walter Giesekin that is all about this type of practice. For me, after learning the text, there are three things that help me get the memory really solid. First is to practice the pieces I know without the score and only searching for the score when I have a doubt, so I am always challenging my information retrieval, as a lot of practicing a piece has to do with solving technical challenges, the fact of working by memory to begin with helps it to become second nature. Then, another thing I began to do last year was mental solfege, to always follow some line when I am playing, in order to activate focus and to improve musicality, it feels just like waking up your mind, as one tends to play mindlessly or passively, mental solfegge gets you musically active and lets you think what is coming next. Lastly, I practice my repertoir in spaced repetition, I use flash cards in order to organize which pieces I will study and rotate them according to the level of security I have with each, so that from a practice sesion to the next, I am not always playing the same piece and I can regulate preciselly which piece needs work.
    Great video, keep it up! 💪

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  11 днів тому +1

      Brilliant! Many thanks for sharing this!!

  • @bunnyhollowcrafts
    @bunnyhollowcrafts 25 днів тому

    Oh heavens! There is no music in my head. One of my biggest irks. I can play advanced pieces but memory; not a thing. I took a look at Minuet in G Major at the kitchen table. The patterns, the chords, the structure. Went to my piano, and sure hit and miss a few times, but then it came. Partly of course because it’s a well known melody, but to do it with no music, wow!!! Thank you is not a big enough word!

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  24 дні тому

      Fantastic! Thanks for your comment and I'm so glad it helped!!

  • @pianoweighttouchbrianking809
    @pianoweighttouchbrianking809 24 дні тому

    Hi Could I ask you for a description of the microphone you are speaking in to and where it can be purchased? The quality is perfect. Thank you for describing the forms of memory and how to study the score. It is so useful. Brian King

    • @misericordiasdomini7782
      @misericordiasdomini7782 24 дні тому +1

      I am hopeful that he will respond to your inquiry regarding the brand of the microphone.

    • @pianoweighttouchbrianking809
      @pianoweighttouchbrianking809 24 дні тому

      @@misericordiasdomini7782 I would appreciate that thank you. Brian

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  24 дні тому

      Certainly! It’s an oldie but a goodie - the AKG C414 b-ULS!

    • @pianoweighttouchbrianking809
      @pianoweighttouchbrianking809 23 дні тому

      @@pianistic Thank you so much I will search and acquire the same. All the best with your fine teaching. Brian

    • @pianoweighttouchbrianking809
      @pianoweighttouchbrianking809 23 дні тому

      @@pianistic Thank you so much. I have a lapel mic but it doesn''t pick up the voice loud enough! Take care. Brian

  • @J3unG
    @J3unG 24 дні тому

    This is good stuff, bro. I'm a pianist and have always had a lingering problem of the sight-->mind-->finger connection when sightreading. I know this is happening and would like to be able t make the sight to finger muscle memory faster. Any thoughts on this? Thanks! Subbed.

    • @pianistic
      @pianistic  24 дні тому

      Thanks for the comment! That's a topic we could really dive deep into, but one tip I find helpful is to practice playing without looking at your hands as much as possible, building a ‘map’ of the keyboard in your head. The more you can rely on your hands to move instinctively, the better. It’s definitely something to be aware of and work on over time. I hope this helps!

    • @J3unG
      @J3unG 23 дні тому

      @@pianistic I see. So, I should endeavour to READ the page and PLAY IT WITHOUT LOOKING? I can do quite a bit of it but...and I think this is where my workflow breaks: when I get to a passage/fragment that is 'tricky', I slow down and I FEEL the doubt that occurs when I'm unsure. For me, the passage stays unfixed and playing it 'cleanly' (at tempo and fluidly) takes a long time to achieve, if ever at all. That feeling of doubt in approaching the passage is what gets me and I think has hampered my capability to truly learn and memorize a piece. This is why I think I have difficulty in music memorization (I am amazed at people who know dozens, perhaps hundreds of songs and pieces). I've been playing a very long time and am a professional keyboardist with decades of experience in all sorts settings on records and live performance. THIS is my dirty little secret and at this point in my life I think I would like to get past it. FYI, I can still play anything on a functional level (I can do it, no problem especially if it's on a pro gig where you knock it out one time and you may never play or see it again) but making it sound crips, clear and confident...well that's the issue. I feel bad that I can't play a piece all the way without making silly execution mistakes because I've developed the doubt in my own head about the tricky passages especially on music I am fond of and would like to play for myself UGH. BTW, I've never had carpal tunnel issues and don't plan to and won't destroy my hands like so many other of my mates who overpractice to achieve 'perfection'. I think you know what I mean by this and I think my issue is an 'it's all in your head thing'.
      In any case, what can I do to finally make my playing cleaner and to remove the doubt that I experience when I have a go at reading a piece (regardless of first time on sight or stuff I've been fighting with for years)? Thanks again, mate.

  • @lshwadchuck5643
    @lshwadchuck5643 10 днів тому

    Always glad to hear a teacher admit muscle memory is unreliable.