Do seventh chords belong in electronic music?

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Here's a music theory nugget: use seventh chords without getting overwhelmed!
    Many online resources overcomplicate this subject, making it hard to follow. In this video I explain why you might want to use seventh chords, and how to use them easily and tastefully.
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    Contents:
    0:00 Who is this for?
    0:55 Music theory recap
    4:03 Seventh chords
    4:45 Simpler way to make seventh chords
    6:16 Fred Again example
    6:31 Let's play a guessing game
    8:18 The song reveal
    8:43 Recap summary

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  • @OscarUnderdog
    @OscarUnderdog  4 місяці тому +3

    My Foundations courses ► courses.underdog.brussels
    Patreon ► www.patreon.com/underdogmusicschool
    Discord ► discord.gg/trDbVcDHB3

  • @csnerd21
    @csnerd21 4 місяці тому +63

    *Oscar* *appreciation* *button.*

  • @Natanelmusic
    @Natanelmusic 4 місяці тому +7

    “Mature music” baby shark in the background lmaooooooooo epic

  • @pinkmouse4863
    @pinkmouse4863 4 місяці тому +2

    Good to see you got your heating fixed Oscar!
    Frankly, I suspect most of the problems people have with theory is down to the layout of the piano keyboard itself. The way the black notes are interleaved makes it difficult to visualise scales and suchlike, as it's never the same pattern/shape of keys for the same chord as you move up and down. This is why I suspect it's actually easier to learn theory on something like a guitar, a major seventh is exactly the same shape, you just move up and down the fretboard.

  • @DJVasC
    @DJVasC 4 місяці тому +3

    Great tutorial Oscar. First I thought you would talk about the C7 (often used in blues), but it is the Cmaj7th

  • @reniarlegieps
    @reniarlegieps 4 місяці тому +3

    Hi Oscar, I really appreciate all your efforts and I absolutely enjoy all your youtube content. Although I already absolved many purchased courses by other artists, I would like to add your courses also to my arsenal, but at the actual prices I simply can't justify the additional purchase. Maybe you could eventually consider a great Christmas or New year sale e.g. a fantastic bundle price, I forecast an enormous explosion of your sales figures. But also if not, I would like to say thank you for all of your interesting and encouraging ideas.

  • @Creator2574
    @Creator2574 4 місяці тому +7

    Thank you Oscar. Overtime I have watched almost all your videos. I am finishing your course this week. Your content has changed my life and how I view music for the better. ❤

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  4 місяці тому

      Feels good to read this 💙 thanks creator!

  • @Artes.Antorcha
    @Artes.Antorcha 4 місяці тому +1

    oscaaar!! i swear this time , my new tracks will be based on theory and not will be just an happy accidents development. i swear! jajaj thxs for the knowledge ♥

  • @tonycowin
    @tonycowin 4 місяці тому +2

    While your point about note efficeny is correct a lot of piano players, myself included, double the bass note by adding the octave. This adds an ever richer sound that can be easily applied to what you've brilliant explained here.

  • @jemtbbb3223
    @jemtbbb3223 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much Underdog!! Always appreciate the vids

  • @LeeAMx
    @LeeAMx 4 місяці тому +5

    your videos have been very helpful as I’ve been trying to improve and expand my knowledge, thank you!!

  • @atomicasounds
    @atomicasounds 4 місяці тому +2

    This was pure gold! It certainly improved my understanding, much appreciated! =)

  • @jsparkling886
    @jsparkling886 4 місяці тому +1

    GIMME MORE OF THAT! AWESOME STUFF OSCAR

  • @VVIDbeats
    @VVIDbeats 3 місяці тому

    Really appreciate the way you break down complex ideas into fundementals ! Keep up the good work (:

  • @FFabianoFonseca
    @FFabianoFonseca 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing as always

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 4 місяці тому +2

    When using inverted chords, that change the first note of a chord, i mostly inverted the base note on the base synth as well. I felt the base note needed to be the same as the first note on the chord. But that isn't the case.
    Most videos only show the chord and not the corresponding base note. Thanks for clearing this up.

    • @tonycowin
      @tonycowin 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm a piano player and this is what I do when writing songs. To my ears it's a much richer sound.

    • @FuZZbaLLbee
      @FuZZbaLLbee 4 місяці тому +1

      @@tonycowin oké, so it might be oké after all 😀

  • @lagrandeparade2718
    @lagrandeparade2718 4 місяці тому

    Wonderfully well explained

  • @philfiebz
    @philfiebz 4 місяці тому +1

    Love your take on those classic music theory topics. Really straightforward and easy to understand. My two picks are quite melancholic today. Enjoy “Yotto - Turn It Around” and “Parallel Voices - Still”.

  • @darkdrumhead
    @darkdrumhead 4 місяці тому +1

    thanks mate, much appreciated!

  • @djllego
    @djllego 4 місяці тому +1

    Very helpful, had to screenshot the chart at the end of the video. I'm use it as a cheatsheet 🎹

  • @RogueFire29
    @RogueFire29 4 місяці тому +2

    What a perfect way to teach this 😁

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 4 місяці тому +1

    Oscar: Do seventh chords belong in electronic music?
    Me, who has just listened to Jarre's Équinoxe 4, which afaict has an A7b9: Yes, obviously they do.
    Also that chord progression: Am - Cmaj7 - E - Am... I guess you called C 1 for ease, instead of called a 1 because that is a pretty typical functional harmonic chord progression. :)

  • @SlavaChrome
    @SlavaChrome 4 місяці тому +2

    So simple things, but so interesting from your manner of providing info =)

  • @peterelfman
    @peterelfman 4 місяці тому +2

    EXCELLENT video!!!

  • @rmatson
    @rmatson 4 місяці тому +2

    Fantastic. Thank you

  • @mylesmontclair
    @mylesmontclair 4 місяці тому +1

    Great tutorial, Oscar. I loved your singing, too!

  • @callumg8356
    @callumg8356 4 місяці тому +1

    Its time for a new music theory and I think its coming soon. Old ways are so unnecessarily complicated. Thank you for bringing it into the world Oscar ❤❤

    • @OscarUnderdog
      @OscarUnderdog  4 місяці тому

      I agree that it’s been a frustrating road to learn the simple practical basics, without wading through super deep bach analysis or jazz theory. Its not that complicated to make music that works for 95% of listeners :)

  • @sirgowey
    @sirgowey 4 місяці тому

    Thanks ! Super tuto

  • @armignac
    @armignac 4 місяці тому

    7th Chords always love!
    They are also pretty much madatory for a liquid dnb track.

  • @gm-heaven
    @gm-heaven 4 місяці тому +1

    The Man sings! Reverting to ableton now :) Thx Oscar

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 4 місяці тому +4

    You really want to sound mature, throw in some minor 9th chords. That's the "neo-soul" chord. It's like a stronger version of the house chord, the minor 7th, and it seems to fit a house or hip-hop vibe, but ive heard them in hard house and even 90s trance. Now maybe it's more pigeonholed to soul and house vibes.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 4 місяці тому

      6:21 example of minor 7th

    • @Bittamin
      @Bittamin 4 місяці тому

      Yes❤

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 4 місяці тому

      Hasn't that soul minor 9th been the 'house chord' since like the beginning? They often have the root note in the lower octave, right? To me the house chord is an inverted minor 9th. A(lower octave)-G-B-C-E. And then often transposed up and down with sampling or chord memory.

  • @LaurieHallLJH
    @LaurieHallLJH 4 місяці тому +2

    you’re a fine teacher

  • @BonasBuden
    @BonasBuden 4 місяці тому +2

    I don't worry too much about chords. I compose with digitakt so playing chords would be quite a hassle. I may use sounds that are samples of chord like sounds but I don't think too much about it. When there is some pad sound(s) at the background and then there is lead synths with delays and reverbs it will create sustained sounds on top of that pad which create those same harmonic interactions between sounds as chords do. It can be as interesting as with any chord progressions. It should not be thought that you need chords to make sonically interesting music. In techno I think main emphasis is not rhytmical components. Even a short lead stabs contribute to that rhytmical shape of the track. Then mood is set by using interesting pad or any other weird sounds which are not that much about creating shapes as melodies and drums are. Sometimes that distinction is quite hazy though as some sparse sounds together may also create some interesting patterns of their own.
    But to your question. That dissonant nature of 7th chord would fit electronic music quite well if just context is right. Techno in that sense needs to be little bit tense and disorienting at times so why would not 7th interval fit there just fine.

  • @devearts7636
    @devearts7636 4 місяці тому +1

    Thx. Now i get it

  • @mikebon8352
    @mikebon8352 4 місяці тому +3

    Next broadcast:
    Slashed Chords...

  • @HowlingFretFumbler
    @HowlingFretFumbler 4 місяці тому

    Love ❤

  • @AndreaFilippoLongo
    @AndreaFilippoLongo 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video!
    Btw the B note is SI not TI 😊

  • @AKAtAGG
    @AKAtAGG 4 місяці тому +1

    Yes, they do. Hugely.

  • @lawrencekelly5038
    @lawrencekelly5038 4 місяці тому +1

    Is it just me that hears that first chord in this vid and instantly starts singing 'Changes' by David Bowie?

    • @tonycowin
      @tonycowin 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, Changes starts with a CM7 and moves up chromatically.

  • @silvertongues2
    @silvertongues2 4 місяці тому +3

    Chicago house = 7th chords

  • @LeiChat
    @LeiChat 4 місяці тому +1

  • @xoqoable
    @xoqoable 4 місяці тому +1

  • @DJeMo
    @DJeMo 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice one Oscar, its like you were well aware what might go with my coffee, ten hut sir YES sir 🫡

  • @viogitz
    @viogitz 4 місяці тому +1

    🎉

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 4 місяці тому +1

    Much appreciated.
    I'm still learning Ableton, so forgive my presumption, Oscar.
    I watched a couple of videos from LNA's channel. She's using Ableton 12 which probably won't run on my old laptop where I have my Ableton live 11. LNA has so many tools at her finger tips including "Chord" and "Scale" which got me very excited. When I saw your video I thought what if they wer in 11? So I googled and found this ua-cam.com/video/gYbeLbNaBfg/v-deo.htmlsi=jxa2YERB2146OJ-U tutorial which tells me where to find and how to use these tools. Pretty cool. I'm sure your users would benefit from such tools as these and maybe others. WTF is "Groove"?

    • @foljs5858
      @foljs5858 4 місяці тому

      "WTF is "Groove"?" A groove is how a beat or music performance is syncopated (how it "grooves", with some notes delayed, some played ahead of time, some played on the beat, etc). If you know "swing quantize" it's the same thing but more generic (swing is just a specific type of group). In Ableton and other DAWs, you can apply a grouve to a MIDI clip, and the notes in the clip will move (slightly or a lot, depending on how much you apply it) to follow the "groove". Ableton comes with many preset grooves, but you can also make your own, or extract from an audio clip.
      So, for example you can take a one-bar clip with 8 eight notes (which sounds robotic), and apply a salsa or funk groove to it, and those notes will move around, so that they have the same feel/rhythm as the groove clip.

    • @niklask.5593
      @niklask.5593 4 місяці тому

      These tools are in 11 too, only new thing in 12 is that it’s easier over devices to use scales because you have a button for it in each device. I recently got a Korg NanoKey Studio as a Controller which helps much with Scales and Chords. No need to update to 12 if it’s the only things you need

  • @karinegrandvoinet2038
    @karinegrandvoinet2038 4 місяці тому +1

    at least you decided to sing :p

  • @hagangalvin7352
    @hagangalvin7352 4 місяці тому +1

    they do

  • @bernossi5185
    @bernossi5185 4 місяці тому

    Quick answer without having watched the video.
    Yes

  • @nukiolbartes6279
    @nukiolbartes6279 4 місяці тому +2

    we can also think of seventh chords simply as quantized harmonic overtone.

    • @OdysseyWorks
      @OdysseyWorks 4 місяці тому +2

      What does quantized harmonic overtones even mean?

    • @wonderwheel80s
      @wonderwheel80s 4 місяці тому

      I've never thought seventh chords this way. Makes sense, thank you for suggesting this!

    • @nukiolbartes6279
      @nukiolbartes6279 4 місяці тому

      @@OdysseyWorks lets take piano sound. If u press one key only It does not only contain the fundamental (based on which the pitch is perceived) frequency but also multiple overtones stacked above it..
      so when we play C actually it also contains C (first overtone) then G, C, E, G, Bb and so forth..
      if x is freq of fundamental, first overtone is 2x, second overtone is 3x and so forth.
      Important to note the amplitude of higher overtone is decreasing.
      So if we play C major (CEG) actually we re simply emphasizing the overtones that already exist.
      Now related to this video, most of analog synthesizer of the old days were not polyphonic, hence they utilize waveshaping, filtering, or different synthesis methods to manipulate overtones rather than stacking it on top of each other.

    • @nukiolbartes6279
      @nukiolbartes6279 4 місяці тому

      @@OdysseyWorks in this video the guy use keys based controller to stack sound on top of sound.
      These keys are controlling the exact frequency of the second, third and fourth sound.
      That is what i meant with quantized harmonic overtones.

    • @OdysseyWorks
      @OdysseyWorks 4 місяці тому

      @@nukiolbartes6279 Thanks for the nice explanation!

  • @reincarnatedhumanbeing
    @reincarnatedhumanbeing 4 місяці тому +1

    Oscar you are a bad singer. LoL 😂
    Btw, thanks for the class. Love it 🖤🎶

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled 4 місяці тому +2

    How about for those of us that are amazing at nothing? 😏

  • @george_slipstream_atlantis
    @george_slipstream_atlantis 4 місяці тому +1

    Yes, move on.

  • @joshraab6808
    @joshraab6808 4 місяці тому

    This is sad

  • @cecilia_mackie
    @cecilia_mackie 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely fantastic! Shall we be friends?

  • @DanielQuasar
    @DanielQuasar 4 місяці тому

    Leaving some 🩵 (thanks for making the theory simple that it totally clicked for me, I've always struggled)