I absolutely love when Devon Butler is involved. It's so unbelievably cool that he became such a big part of the UA-cam scene just for essentially being a good bloke and embracing the opportunity he was given. The fact he's even on the grid with you guys is admirable. I do want a pint with him, I also think I may have just realised he's my mancrush. Oh well. Could be worse.
I know i'm going to be told to 'cope harder' and realise 'it ain't that deep' but I can fully understand why guys like Tom97 bailed out of Creator Series based on the direction it's headed into. The series has the potential to be unbelievably awesome if it's managed and run right instead of being a mickey mouse league. Inters pole, hard tyres being banned, no stewarding, allowed to work together to take out or hinder a driver is just madness. It just confuses me how Ben gets any satisfaction out of winning these races.
@@lukeguilfoyle2425I would say even right up till Season 6 the league was great to watch. (Was that the one where Skychi and Ben took it to the last lap for the championship?)
Couldn't agree more. I instantly skip the inters pole parts and hated when Inphratic caused intentional safety cars for his benefit. It just ruins the racing. Banning hard tyres is a dubious decision as well.
I did watch Creator Series, and you Tiametmarduk for the simracing. Yes, it wasn’t F1 E-sports level of driving but indeed great racing and commentary. It had strategy, points system and structure. I watched it as a league, for the great racing between one-another. In my interest and opinion, and from what some others are commenting, i do think this is the wrong way forward for the Creator-series.
I’m all for the joking and banter even the little safety car passing bit that they do but the deliberate safety cars are so silly. Glad they’re putting a stop to that now, hopefully this will keep the series fun and fresh enough while still being at least a good bit competitive
that's harsh on him, he's been good these 2 seasons and as much as I don't want him to win, what Adam did was disgraceful, just shove him off the track
Elrey's plan is simple, make you fight with others so he can drive away, if that results into a crash for those behind him by driving very slow, he couldn't care less.
of course inphratic is the first to cause a safety car, can’t compete at the front so just takes the easy way out, get rid of him and punjew waste of two slots
When Ben wants to win and takes it seriously he’s so clear of 90% of these drivers, races like this makes it obvious he does lots of these races with content in mind as well
This whole video I was thinking that ElRey's driving has massively improved recently (not only in terms of safety, but also pace), only for the other people in the lobby to do to him what they despised him doing in seasons past. This is some utter nonsense and honestly makes the series less fun to watch. I'm glad intentional SCs are at least gone (not sure why it was allowed in the first place), but I also think the hard tyre rule should be dumped. Strategies are not dynamic at all and super predictable now. I'm all for a relaxed league with creators driving for fun, but if these are the standards that the league is okay with, the viewership *will* drop - that is a given. Relaxed rules is fine but there should still be rules, if something is clearly one person's fault they should still be penalized for it. You can judge it on the outcome of an action instead of the action itself to make it a bit more casual than normal, but there *have* to be consequences.
Your comparing the past league races where they actually took it seriously compared to this no rules junk? lol So now that people can take him out without consequences suddenly they shouldn’t cause he had a change of heart? That’s not how it works bud sorry.
I think I have the unpopular opinion that specific race gimmicks can be cool like F2 and no hards, BUT yeah the lack of human stewarding, allowing collusion, and the intentional safety cars (which seemingly has been changed) is just ludicrous. Like I think the Adam ElRey collision was super exciting but Adam directly saying he would help Ben and also not taking any blame for the crash as per the game's rules is frustrating.
Yes they're bannee but if you forget you can switch in the first couple laps (that's what ben said on stream) accidents happen just like elreys racepace. The pace is good but dude can't drive next to someone xD
@@michaelplays3012 no one’s “cheating” since there are no rules to cheat in the first place…. It’s just your typical online lobby rather than a league race.
Yeah, I did figure the lack of SC rules would cause something like this. Nice that you changed it after this race. Not sure why that's what the league started with, but I suppose it isn't always easy to find a middle-ground. Congrats on the win though Ben! Good stuff
I know it’s a “fun” league but gotta be honest, elrey didn’t deserve it this time. His driving has improved significantly and his pace is really good, sad to see him being taken out, would’ve loved to see if he could’ve caught up to the top again! But was great Entertainment anyways! Congrats on 10!
Elray so badly deserved that from Devon. Tbf it was technically legal from Devon, but he knew full well what he was doing. Elray did it to Matty though in an illegal way so like I say, fully deserved
Im so glad that causing intentional safety cars is now banned. I dont now why less strict rules would cause people to be less sweaty, just do random track at every round and people wont spend a whole week practicing. GGs Ben!
For some ridiculous reason they get given a bonus point for setting the fastest lap on Inters on a dry track. One of many reasons why Creator Series is a joke.
If he'd stop playing games and just get on with racing he hadnt ended up in the middle of the field after the last SC. He put himself in this position.
Yes he did😂 play stupid games and win stupid prizes! It’s all good when he’s banging others out the way but yet when it happens to him you want to cry about it🤣
Well done on the win Ben. However, the voluntary safety car is just the drop that makes the glass overflow. It is regrettable that we can't enjoy some great racing with great battles because some try to bridge the skill gap with malice. Bending and playing with the rules is a big part of the sport, but this is not playing with the rules, its disregarding the integrity of the race and the league and that destroys any interest we might have for the rest of the race. If the drivers don't take the race seriously, and the league, how are we meant to ?
Got to admit it is entertaining but I think it was a lot better before cos the stupid rules and safety cars do kind of ruin it will u go back normal next season or even this season?
Why is ElRey still there if hes that unpopular. Its very rare to cheer for someone just being taken out. But he deeserves it and to be out of the series forever.
Honestly the rule changes have made this borderline unwatchable. Also kick elrey out of the series. His horrific tactics negate any good quality racing. He is part of the downfall of the series - it doesn't matter if he is quick.
It's hard to feel invested in a championship where half the grid is fucking around tbh. What's wrong with a series where youtubers actually try? That was great. Whatever this is? Let's just say at least I won't be refreshing youtube looking for the new creator series video to release :(
No wonder Tom97 left. This series is a joke. I know it's supposed to be light and entertaining, but somehow it's even got more sweaty and less entertaining. I want to see competetive racing, not people driving into each other for fake laughs and then intentionally bringing out safety cars. This is so lame. If Ben just took a stand and dropped out, they might make the series a bit more seroius. No one is watching for any of the other content creators anyway. This series would die.
If just had stopped playing ERS games and just got on with racing instead of letting the guys behind always catch up he wouldnt have ended up in the middle of the field after the last SC. He kinda put himself in this position.
I like how he didn't include the clip of Elrey overtaking him under sc but shows him forcing Elrey off. Makes me think Elrey didn't do anything bad cause why not include it then? And also "Lets hope it's not as serious anymore" proceeds to cry every single time anyone tried something funny against him
From the next race onwards drivers aren’t allowed to stop on track to cause safety cars ❌
That better be the case it’s so pointless otherwise
Monaco X1000000000000000%
@Tiametmarduk yeah, if you wanna cause intentional SC just play in the a different lobby/league, it takes the fun out of watching the video
@Tiametmarduk twice you where over taking for the lead when they caused them
I feel like some people did cause safety cars intentionally in canada
I agree with the sentiment that the lack of rules is incredibly frustrating
I absolutely love when Devon Butler is involved. It's so unbelievably cool that he became such a big part of the UA-cam scene just for essentially being a good bloke and embracing the opportunity he was given.
The fact he's even on the grid with you guys is admirable.
I do want a pint with him, I also think I may have just realised he's my mancrush. Oh well. Could be worse.
This whole season should be canceled and started over again with proper rules, this is just ridiculous
I don't know how intentionally creating a SC is ok! In my league insta ban
@michaelplays3012 you don't drive for content... you drive to compete lol
@@skahnk6550 why don't they just turn off damage and legalise deliberate crashing then
@@michaelplays3012 can i play with u?
@@michaelplays3012 it's not meant to be serious
"Your worst track is someone's best track"
2:06 "I've been disqualified!" Haydon says calmly.
I know i'm going to be told to 'cope harder' and realise 'it ain't that deep' but I can fully understand why guys like Tom97 bailed out of Creator Series based on the direction it's headed into. The series has the potential to be unbelievably awesome if it's managed and run right instead of being a mickey mouse league. Inters pole, hard tyres being banned, no stewarding, allowed to work together to take out or hinder a driver is just madness.
It just confuses me how Ben gets any satisfaction out of winning these races.
Absolutely its complete bullshit
Nah you’re absolutely spot on tbf, creator series was peak around season 3-4. I never missed a race always edge of your seat kinda stuff back then.
@@lukeguilfoyle2425I would say even right up till Season 6 the league was great to watch. (Was that the one where Skychi and Ben took it to the last lap for the championship?)
@@dantheracer16 Yeah
Couldn't agree more. I instantly skip the inters pole parts and hated when Inphratic caused intentional safety cars for his benefit. It just ruins the racing. Banning hard tyres is a dubious decision as well.
I did watch Creator Series, and you Tiametmarduk for the simracing. Yes, it wasn’t F1 E-sports level of driving but indeed great racing and commentary. It had strategy, points system and structure. I watched it as a league, for the great racing between one-another. In my interest and opinion, and from what some others are commenting, i do think this is the wrong way forward for the Creator-series.
Looks like they’re taking a step back though fortunately
37:05 Love that Devon Butler smile...... You know he's done something bad!
I'll start consider having Adam "The wall" as a team mate.
He's a real one, he wasn't having any of ElRey's crap 😂
I’m all for the joking and banter even the little safety car passing bit that they do but the deliberate safety cars are so silly. Glad they’re putting a stop to that now, hopefully this will keep the series fun and fresh enough while still being at least a good bit competitive
Boring creator series now that people just can cause safety cars and hit each other off the track
It fell off massively
You found that a boring race?
@@DerekHartleyHaving scrub drivers cause safety cars every 5 minutes that directly affect the outcome of the race is pretty boring, yes.
@@adrrodw4975agreed a few crashes are fine if they happened naturally but intentionally causing it is disgraceful behaviour
I love it, ElRey just thought he could bang his way to the top. Gotta love it!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ben doesnt play easy like tom97 did, and its showing as elreys downfall has started hahaha
that's harsh on him, he's been good these 2 seasons and as much as I don't want him to win, what Adam did was disgraceful, just shove him off the track
@@gmdascensia its called ‘treat others how you wanna be treated’, if ben was in elreys position adam wouldnt do that because ben isnt a prick on track
@@gmdascensia let's just ignore he didn't do the same to matty
Ahhh CS is just a joke now, got it.
CS has gone from my favorite series to something I’m probably gonna skip for the remainder of the season. 🎉
Yeah very sad tbh
"I love Imola, it's a great little track"
Ben, F1 Championship Edition Season 1
The word championship Edition is highlighted in blue how do you do that?
@@KrisPowell-Blue_Forever No idea. I guess it is automatic due to a certain combination of words
naaaah i would be pissed by the actions of Inphratic
Elrey's plan is simple, make you fight with others so he can drive away, if that results into a crash for those behind him by driving very slow, he couldn't care less.
of course inphratic is the first to cause a safety car, can’t compete at the front so just takes the easy way out, get rid of him and punjew waste of two slots
When Ben wants to win and takes it seriously he’s so clear of 90% of these drivers, races like this makes it obvious he does lots of these races with content in mind as well
Fabio should be kicked out of the series honestly, he's such a clown
This whole video I was thinking that ElRey's driving has massively improved recently (not only in terms of safety, but also pace), only for the other people in the lobby to do to him what they despised him doing in seasons past. This is some utter nonsense and honestly makes the series less fun to watch.
I'm glad intentional SCs are at least gone (not sure why it was allowed in the first place), but I also think the hard tyre rule should be dumped. Strategies are not dynamic at all and super predictable now.
I'm all for a relaxed league with creators driving for fun, but if these are the standards that the league is okay with, the viewership *will* drop - that is a given. Relaxed rules is fine but there should still be rules, if something is clearly one person's fault they should still be penalized for it. You can judge it on the outcome of an action instead of the action itself to make it a bit more casual than normal, but there *have* to be consequences.
Your comparing the past league races where they actually took it seriously compared to this no rules junk? lol So now that people can take him out without consequences suddenly they shouldn’t cause he had a change of heart? That’s not how it works bud sorry.
@@dbzcollector9963 Yes I am comparing it, because it is the same league - and this content is simply worse because of the new rules.
The battle with ElRey was insane
I think I have the unpopular opinion that specific race gimmicks can be cool like F2 and no hards, BUT yeah the lack of human stewarding, allowing collusion, and the intentional safety cars (which seemingly has been changed) is just ludicrous. Like I think the Adam ElRey collision was super exciting but Adam directly saying he would help Ben and also not taking any blame for the crash as per the game's rules is frustrating.
Is BushyAntz fully back
Did anyone notice noguiera started on Hards even though they're banned
Yes they're bannee but if you forget you can switch in the first couple laps (that's what ben said on stream) accidents happen just like elreys racepace. The pace is good but dude can't drive next to someone xD
@26:00 how does Ben lose the lead under SC before pitting?
Im sorry but these forced safety cars need to go...wtf were they thinking allowing that?
they are banned now
Oh ElRay when will you learn? XD
Interesting cut to leave out Elrey overtaking under SC
Thomb has to be race banned right?
It's a meme league, he's fine
Lol
People generally take ut seriously it's honestly sad as shit to see how shit some of these people will blatantly cheat and get away with it
@@michaelplays3012who’s exactly is the “cheat” and what are they doing 😂😂
@@michaelplays3012 no one’s “cheating” since there are no rules to cheat in the first place…. It’s just your typical online lobby rather than a league race.
Yeah, I did figure the lack of SC rules would cause something like this. Nice that you changed it after this race. Not sure why that's what the league started with, but I suppose it isn't always easy to find a middle-ground. Congrats on the win though Ben! Good stuff
I know it’s a “fun” league but gotta be honest, elrey didn’t deserve it this time. His driving has improved significantly and his pace is really good, sad to see him being taken out, would’ve loved to see if he could’ve caught up to the top again! But was great Entertainment anyways! Congrats on 10!
Watching Hayden drive backwards all qualifying was an experience on twitch 😂😂
Adam did a solid job for you man!!!
Elrey's sandbagging games was incredible to watch, kinda wild seeing a Verstappen level of aggressiveness in sim racing lmao
Elray so badly deserved that from Devon. Tbf it was technically legal from Devon, but he knew full well what he was doing. Elray did it to Matty though in an illegal way so like I say, fully deserved
Im so glad that causing intentional safety cars is now banned. I dont now why less strict rules would cause people to be less sweaty, just do random track at every round and people wont spend a whole week practicing.
GGs Ben!
*GOOOD* @2:29, 22:34
Get Fabio out. Genuinely so confused who watches/is entertained by that stream.
This
It's a meme league, it's allowed, even though people hate it
@noobpyxl it really is not a meme league,or alteast should not be, Alex Gillon and Tom have left i think because of how shit it's become
he and punjew are just perennial backmarkers, i look at every qualifying result and don’t even need to guess where they finished
@@michaelplays3012Tom left because he prefers proper league racing over a content league racing.
What’s the point of the intermediate tire pole?
For some ridiculous reason they get given a bonus point for setting the fastest lap on Inters on a dry track. One of many reasons why Creator Series is a joke.
Glad to see they getting rid of the stopping on track. Really has ruined the content the last two races
Alex Gillon would’ve sent el Rey to the fucking moon this race. Rightfully so
Edit: On my way to subscribe to Adam
Causing safety cars should immediately be awared a 3 race ban. That's ridiculous
Elray didnt deserve to be taken out like that
This whole race was a joke ... They need to strict the rules otherwise it will just get worse
If he'd stop playing games and just get on with racing he hadnt ended up in the middle of the field after the last SC. He put himself in this position.
Yes he did😂 play stupid games and win stupid prizes! It’s all good when he’s banging others out the way but yet when it happens to him you want to cry about it🤣
@@nanatzayaHe was trying to be like Carlos Sainz last year in Singapore
Oh also, after what he did to Matty made his incident deserved
Quick question what sim gloves do you use?
Well done on the win Ben. However, the voluntary safety car is just the drop that makes the glass overflow. It is regrettable that we can't enjoy some great racing with great battles because some try to bridge the skill gap with malice. Bending and playing with the rules is a big part of the sport, but this is not playing with the rules, its disregarding the integrity of the race and the league and that destroys any interest we might have for the rest of the race. If the drivers don't take the race seriously, and the league, how are we meant to ?
So is it like 2015 and earlier where there's only 2 compounds a weekend?
they have fully banned hards... so only 2 dry compounds are available...
Ben has frequent CS uploads again?
Why doesn’t Haydon try at all? I seem to remember on an esports broadcast he said he could sometimes get within a second of the esports times…
Nice win 👍😊
I swear Fabio is trying to get bannned this season 😭😂
“My worst track”
*purple s2 in q2 and q3*
I love the attack
Nice win Ben! Love the series, but people constantly purposefully causing safety cars is ruining the races for me as a viewer.
Nice to see bushy back
Yay creator series video only 2 weeks late
adam the goat 🐐
it was a bit "all against elrey" and dirty driving at the end ...
at this point you guys should just restart the race everytime someone is upset, way more sense than this.
Damn, elrey really had it out on Matty :/
Elrey too greedy to overtake 😂
the editing going towards these videos deserve way more views than this
Bro is better than jarno
Finally some karma for elrey! Adam we love you
Just want to say thank you to Adam Sanderson for screwing up El Rey's race who screwed up Matty's
Who is naking the decisions in creator series?? Whoever the individuals are, theyre killing the series.
Got to admit it is entertaining but I think it was a lot better before cos the stupid rules and safety cars do kind of ruin it will u go back normal next season or even this season?
holy here at the 8 second mark
Now I see why Tom and Alex and others won’t waste time committing to this garbage. This season you’ll lose many viewers
Icl the driving in CS is a joke.
When Ben ruins someone else's race/lap, it's just banter. But he gets so butthurt when someone messes with him.
alex gillon fan detected
Whose race or lap did he ruin? Thom utterly shafted him.
@@tresyy stop meatriding 💀 why would he be watching a video from someone he doesn't like
Why is ElRey still there if hes that unpopular. Its very rare to cheer for someone just being taken out. But he deeserves it and to be out of the series forever.
drivers shud be banned for causing intentional safety cars
Creator series gone down hill
El Rey is so dirty
Honestly the rule changes have made this borderline unwatchable. Also kick elrey out of the series. His horrific tactics negate any good quality racing. He is part of the downfall of the series - it doesn't matter if he is quick.
It's hard to feel invested in a championship where half the grid is fucking around tbh.
What's wrong with a series where youtubers actually try? That was great.
Whatever this is?
Let's just say at least I won't be refreshing youtube looking for the new creator series video to release :(
Yeah, CS is losing taste. Those safety cars were too much, this race was like an average lobby. Would you try Iron Man Leagues or others?
Naaaah I’m switching off after that safety car bs. I’m skipping this season of creator season.
Lol, Karma Elrey. Just Karma.
Can the next race he spa
🎉
Since when is Adam good??
The lack of rules is why tom97 left 🙄
The standard of driving is becoming a joke in this series now....
U could say elrey got karma
W adam
Adam is so Sigma and El Rey proved yet again how dirty he is. Actually like Verstappen, very nice when in front.
GOOOOOOOOOD
No wonder Tom97 left. This series is a joke. I know it's supposed to be light and entertaining, but somehow it's even got more sweaty and less entertaining. I want to see competetive racing, not people driving into each other for fake laughs and then intentionally bringing out safety cars. This is so lame.
If Ben just took a stand and dropped out, they might make the series a bit more seroius. No one is watching for any of the other content creators anyway. This series would die.
Elray doesnt deserve cs
Creator series is now a joke
Agree
I feel real bad for ElRey. He didn't deserve to be taken out of the race after driving so well
If just had stopped playing ERS games and just got on with racing instead of letting the guys behind always catch up he wouldnt have ended up in the middle of the field after the last SC. He kinda put himself in this position.
He did it to himself, you’re gonna get raced how you race others. Well deserved!
Lack of rules is infuriating.. why Tf are people deliberately causing safety cars??? Creator series is a joke now..
Awful rule changes ruined this
Let’s goooo
LETS GOOOOOOOO
What is creator series?!? Inphratic doing what… just to crash and then causes safety car for no rzn brother what is this😂😂
Very poor sportsmanship 👎🏻
Disappointed in thomb
People who are under 1 min
I like how he didn't include the clip of Elrey overtaking him under sc but shows him forcing Elrey off. Makes me think Elrey didn't do anything bad cause why not include it then? And also "Lets hope it's not as serious anymore" proceeds to cry every single time anyone tried something funny against him