Hah ha, sure fire way of causing chaos in the landing field Jocky. Put a landing spot out, never fails! No wonder you're happy, out of the UK, lucky chap! Cheers Bill
Brilliant edit Jocky... Have known you through your instructional DVDs for almost a couple of decades. Stumbled upon your channel and was absolutely delighted... Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪... Cheers 🤙🏽
Landing in Butterfly Valley is just stunning, spiralling down in between those rock faces. Though interestingly, I always do my final approach from the other end because of those boulders you mentioned, also it's closer to the beer 😂
Seems like the preferred approach is almost like the double base technique we learn in fixed wing forced landings. Eg, keep doing turns towards the field until you are at the height you want, then turn final.
This is the classic approach for all glider types. One benefit not mentioned is that the speed of the downwind leg allows your brain through your peripheral vision to understand the situation much better.
Last time I landed in Butterfly Valley was when I was flying the microlight of Gustave (may he rest in peace), of course with an engine out emergency (yes, the machine was maintained by Gustave).Was fairly interesting approach with 80km/h but Butterfly Valley still looked good)) Yes, passenger and I were fine, machine some damages ))
A useful technique for small or sloping landing spots in the alps is the FLAPS technique which i think the german DHV certification pilots publicized. On final approach you first (!) go on half brake and add a half bar. That kills your wing's perormance and you can go for a steep approach angle while maintaining full control
Very cool 1 Jocky! Love the chilled, elevator music, so calming! 😅👍❤ Peace and love my brother. Greetings from the Caribbean.. Ive turned into a sailor.. Stef Juncker
I'm frustrated that after 2 consecutive SIV's with you Jockey (my best move since starting paragliding) I didn't make Butterfly Valley on the chosen day as the conditions appeared too strong when looking at another glider, above the valley, which appeared to be going backwards. However, I'll be back for another go. This felt the perfect place to practice repetitive launching/landing.
My favorite technique for spot landing (had to master those for the licence) is aiming on the side of a bit too long, and correct with brakes/S/or the most efficient : small/mid ears. Had to ask the exam officials if they accept ears on landing, not all do :)
I love your videos! Such a great content, thank you :) Just one point: the constant aspect approach in the alps we circle not on the upwind side, but next to the landing point (nor upside, nor downside, nor above the landing spot. Just next to it) ;)
Interesting, I've never heard of that, we were taught (and the signs on the landings show that) to always stay upwind of the landing and figure of 8 perpendicular to your final direction. (I was learning in Annecy)
@@TheGrundigg some landing spots have their own special landing approaches - which might be the case in Annecy. And tbh - at those places where no special landing approach is defined, nobody does an „approach“. They just fly in as they come and want. But I just wanted to clarify that the „normal“ approach doesn‘t have the circle in the upwind side.
@@uberdenwolken4564 Why doesn't it? It has all the benefits for a pilot, to judge the headwind speed, to stay on the safer side in case of the wind being too strong, staying clear of other gliders who want to do their approach. And while it is not mandatory to do any kind of approach and there are of course speed wing dudes doing a face-down spiral only to pull out 10m above the cars and kneeslide the whole landing, it is good to have a system to do your landing and not have to focus on making up a new plan, just adjusting to a couple of existing ones.
@@TheGrundigg the circles are done next to the landing spot, so you see very clearly how big your drift is. More clearly then being on the upwind or downwind side, where you would have to estimate your distance to the landing spot. Why some people don‘t do these approaches at all? Because they don‘t care about other gliders… and believe everybody knows what they want to do… To be clear: in most cases I still try to fly the approaches like they were told in the training. In some cases I adapt to the eight’s most people fly, if my circled approach would lead to more confusion. But I‘m also not happy with the anarchistic approach types people fly.
A big problem with spot landing comps is that it's always with people watching, and pilots can't resist going for the spectacular when they have people watching
There is Lyft along this face when the sun is shining on it. If you were above this directly 500 feet would there be lift from this Cliff face? If I have to fly that close to rockside I will but I don't go out of my way to crowd the proximity flying disaster list because that's what got everybody.
Great stuff! Jocky, I was wondering, what about coming in with some brakes on the final approach? Let's say I want to do a spot landing, so I keep 50% brakes to lower the glide ratio (easier to aim ;) ) 10m above the ground I let it go to gain speed for a flare. It makes a spot landing much easier, but is it safe ? Cheers!
I’m a relatively new pilot so correct me if I’m wrong, but I would think it could be argued that coming in with 50% brakes until 10m above the ground puts the glider at a higher than necessary stall risk? My approach has been to come in with normal “arm-weight” active piloting brake pressure (~10-20% brake??) and then go hands up roughly 10 meters above the ground to gain airspeed for the flare. I’m sure your method is probably fine, but I’d be curious to hear your thoughts as well as others’.
What would be wrong with a constant aspect approach and the circle you fly in is around the barricade or the border of the landing field? Every loop you make is a decision loop at some point you're going to be on that downwind Park and turn into the wind and land at every point in the spiral on the downwind half of the spiral you are choosing land or pass. Get a feel for some sink and air or something
@@JockySandersonparagliding I was considering it more of keeping related to the ground like if you had a big square area with four sides that were power lines and you had to land in it you could just keep flying over the top of the power lines until you got fairly close and then steer up when into the area I'd buy you the most space.
1:10 very good. this is it!
You are indeed a happy man ...thanks for sharing
I really enjoy your video he's so wonderful
Did an SIV in Olu after
Beautiful!
Thank you so much :)
Beautiful! Thank you for the lesson and for presenting us this piece of haven!
AWESOME .. Makes me think that I need to get back into paragliding !!!
Butterfly Valley.... lovely memories of there. I loved doing that x
Hah ha, sure fire way of causing chaos in the landing field Jocky. Put a landing spot out, never fails! No wonder you're happy, out of the UK, lucky chap! Cheers Bill
Brilliant edit Jocky... Have known you through your instructional DVDs for almost a couple of decades. Stumbled upon your channel and was absolutely delighted... Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪... Cheers 🤙🏽
Landing in Butterfly Valley is just stunning, spiralling down in between those rock faces. Though interestingly, I always do my final approach from the other end because of those boulders you mentioned, also it's closer to the beer 😂
Amazing ...amazing luar biasa Indahnya
BEAUTYFUL - THANK YOU 😊
Bliss..... Thank you for a great instructional video...
You're a star 🌟
Perfect paragliding.
Well done Sir.
Seems like the preferred approach is almost like the double base technique we learn in fixed wing forced landings. Eg, keep doing turns towards the field until you are at the height you want, then turn final.
This is the classic approach for all glider types. One benefit not mentioned is that the speed of the downwind leg allows your brain through your peripheral vision to understand the situation much better.
Oh to be young again. Stopped flying when doing wing canopy parascending.
It's amazing to think I was there with you at the beginning of your amazing free flight life adventure, Jocky - at Steyning bowl.
Ah those were the days. I hope you are well Bill.
Last time I landed in Butterfly Valley was when I was flying the microlight of Gustave (may he rest in peace), of course with an engine out emergency (yes, the machine was maintained by Gustave).Was fairly interesting approach with 80km/h but Butterfly Valley still looked good)) Yes, passenger and I were fine, machine some damages ))
Well done on a tricky landing! Bless good old Gustave.
What an epic spot ❤
thank you jocky the best therapy ever, your wing.
I wish I had nice conditions like this to practice landings! Good tips.
Excellent explained as always. Looking forward to going back and land at the Butterfly Valley beach. Morten F
Great tutorial, thank you Jocky!:)
A useful technique for small or sloping landing spots in the alps is the FLAPS technique which i think the german DHV certification pilots publicized. On final approach you first (!) go on half brake and add a half bar. That kills your wing's perormance and you can go for a steep approach angle while maintaining full control
I'd try it with height first, I heard some (high performance) gliders like to frontal when using brakes and bar.
Very cool 1 Jocky! Love the chilled, elevator music, so calming! 😅👍❤
Peace and love my brother. Greetings from the Caribbean.. Ive turned into a sailor.. Stef Juncker
Brilliant and full of useful tips always. Thank you Jocky
I'm frustrated that after 2 consecutive SIV's with you Jockey (my best move since starting paragliding) I didn't make Butterfly Valley on the chosen day as the conditions appeared too strong when looking at another glider, above the valley, which appeared to be going backwards. However, I'll be back for another go. This felt the perfect place to practice repetitive launching/landing.
These are so great! Thank you. ❤️
Love your work Jocky. I'm gonna come visit someday and take and SIV from you.
David, book 2 together like I did, plus extra days at Olu Deniz for free flying with launch/ landing practice, it's brilliant.
Superb, inspiring and helpful. Many thanks!
Belle vidéo bien expliquée. Et quel calme, c'est apaisant !
You are just the BEST 😊
Maybe one day I can fly w you
Greetings from BC Canada 🇨🇦
Thank you and greetings from the United Kingdom Matt. I hope we meet on a hill or in the sky somewhere.
Amazing! I hope to land there, guess it'll be a boat ride back eh?
Hi Sandra, you can scramble up the ciff and hike out, which is fun. But boat is easier.
@@JockySandersonparagliding It was incredible to land there! Thanks Jockey! I saw the hike, um, nope!
Hi Sandra, you can walk out of butterfly valley, it is a scramble up the cliff. I boat ride is lovely though.
My favorite technique for spot landing (had to master those for the licence) is aiming on the side of a bit too long, and correct with brakes/S/or the most efficient : small/mid ears.
Had to ask the exam officials if they accept ears on landing, not all do :)
Thank you! :)
As always, it's a very informative video!
You are just great , thank you so much
Like for Butterfly Valley landing, incredible
I would, but I don't want to mess up thumbs of the beast
Excelente vídeo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Прекрасное видео и отличный урок. Спасибо.
very nice video :) great job :)
Very nice vid, Jocky! Thx! :-)
Hahaha, I could hear the butterflies myself.
The was a beautiful elegant landing
Nice one!
Hermoso video. Gracias
Perfect mate 👏
very good video :)
Nice video!
thanks Jocky for this video ! What's the best period to go to Butterfly valley, with good PG conditions but no people on the beach as you did ?
I love your videos! Such a great content, thank you :)
Just one point: the constant aspect approach in the alps we circle not on the upwind side, but next to the landing point (nor upside, nor downside, nor above the landing spot. Just next to it) ;)
great point, thanks. I will add that at the next landing video.
Interesting, I've never heard of that, we were taught (and the signs on the landings show that) to always stay upwind of the landing and figure of 8 perpendicular to your final direction. (I was learning in Annecy)
@@TheGrundigg some landing spots have their own special landing approaches - which might be the case in Annecy. And tbh - at those places where no special landing approach is defined, nobody does an „approach“. They just fly in as they come and want.
But I just wanted to clarify that the „normal“ approach doesn‘t have the circle in the upwind side.
@@uberdenwolken4564 Why doesn't it? It has all the benefits for a pilot, to judge the headwind speed, to stay on the safer side in case of the wind being too strong, staying clear of other gliders who want to do their approach. And while it is not mandatory to do any kind of approach and there are of course speed wing dudes doing a face-down spiral only to pull out 10m above the cars and kneeslide the whole landing, it is good to have a system to do your landing and not have to focus on making up a new plan, just adjusting to a couple of existing ones.
@@TheGrundigg the circles are done next to the landing spot, so you see very clearly how big your drift is. More clearly then being on the upwind or downwind side, where you would have to estimate your distance to the landing spot.
Why some people don‘t do these approaches at all? Because they don‘t care about other gliders… and believe everybody knows what they want to do…
To be clear: in most cases I still try to fly the approaches like they were told in the training. In some cases I adapt to the eight’s most people fly, if my circled approach would lead to more confusion.
But I‘m also not happy with the anarchistic approach types people fly.
Nice vid✌, and a bit concerning a lot of good pilots kinda forgot how to land in a controlled manner.
I think they were just playing. But it does help illustrate approach issues
A big problem with spot landing comps is that it's always with people watching, and pilots can't resist going for the spectacular when they have people watching
There is Lyft along this face when the sun is shining on it. If you were above this directly 500 feet would there be lift from this Cliff face? If I have to fly that close to rockside I will but I don't go out of my way to crowd the proximity flying disaster list because that's what got everybody.
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beautiful!
Very good video! First like here!
Yes on soft beautiful wind condition ok. But what's happening if strong wind, or bumping, or some termical or laminate air conditioning. This need
very amazing video, why dont you come and fly with us in PAkistan. be my guest
Thanks for the great tutorial Jocky. BTW what's the name of the tune at the end of the video? Kind of magic
Hi Michal, Thanks. I can't remember sorry. It was stock from our music supplier. I will ask Foram.
After a safe landing, we feel,
PEACE......
Great stuff! Jocky, I was wondering, what about coming in with some brakes on the final approach?
Let's say I want to do a spot landing, so I keep 50% brakes to lower the glide ratio (easier to aim ;) ) 10m above the ground I let it go to gain speed for a flare. It makes a spot landing much easier, but is it safe ? Cheers!
I’m a relatively new pilot so correct me if I’m wrong, but I would think it could be argued that coming in with 50% brakes until 10m above the ground puts the glider at a higher than necessary stall risk? My approach has been to come in with normal “arm-weight” active piloting brake pressure (~10-20% brake??) and then go hands up roughly 10 meters above the ground to gain airspeed for the flare. I’m sure your method is probably fine, but I’d be curious to hear your thoughts as well as others’.
You have to be careful of wind gradient and stalling if you fix 50% of brake because it can stall even if you do not change anything.
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Larisa Fratea thanks!
What would be wrong with a constant aspect approach and the circle you fly in is around the barricade or the border of the landing field? Every loop you make is a decision loop at some point you're going to be on that downwind Park and turn into the wind and land at every point in the spiral on the downwind half of the spiral you are choosing land or pass. Get a feel for some sink and air or something
Hi Mark, yes, you can, it all depends on your surroundings. Constant aspect approach is a great technique
@@JockySandersonparagliding I was considering it more of keeping related to the ground like if you had a big square area with four sides that were power lines and you had to land in it you could just keep flying over the top of the power lines until you got fairly close and then steer up when into the area I'd buy you the most space.
Beautiful waters! Where is this place ?
Oludeniz, Turkey
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The problem is the high end wings fly fast.
Where's this video filmed guys? Montenegro?
Oludeniz, Turkey
Hey can you tell me where this place is, where you've landed while paragliding can you tell me ????
hi mate, it is Oludeniz and Butterfly valley, Turkey
@@JockySandersonparagliding Thank you, i also want to learn paragliding
Jocky, you are a bird of prey,,
You call it figures of eights and not doing any eights 😅👍
absolutely wrong approach for butterfly valley. Add few gliders in sequence and this figure of 8 over cliff will be VERY dangerous.