“Single people are constantly bombarded with the idea that their lives are less meaningful because they don’t have a partner” Most real thing I have heard all day.
I guess we need to look at the importance of reproduction. If we break down the human and one thing we need more than any other is to reproduce. If we fail at reproduction humans will become extinct. I wonder how much of that importance relies on our instinct to reproduce. Maybe it’s that we look at couples as those more likely to do so. Therefore we tend to have their worth greater in society.
@@muaythaidadbronco7312 Originally, humans probably chose a person to mate with based on their skills in bed. Of course only mating with one person was not the status quo. In todays society people that are good in bed are seen as players / sluts, and having more than one partner is very frowned upon. So the ideal human for reproduction has changed from being good a s*x to being good at attracting the opposite gender, specifically another one who's good at attracting the opposite gender. Repeat that ideology for multiple generations and you have yourself a hierarchy of those who are more attractive being higher up. Couples that are cute together / both good looking are at the top. So in my opinion, societies pressure on us slowly molded our instincts to reproduce in a specific way, in doing so it praised certain people more than others (good looking ppl / couples) and now here we are today.
Dude you're totally wrong. Humans have and will always choose mates judging by their genetic quality, which is expressed in being tall, masculine, broad shouldered, deep voice, facial symmetry, jawline, genital size, etc on men. Saying we chose our mates based on how well they fucked is retarded. You aren't attracted to someone due to their skills because it's literally impossible to judge that without actually banging them.
I did a little research about lobsters after watching the movie and that's what I found: ''You would think that with all these “tiny eyes” that lobsters would have excellent vision, but ironically they do not. In fact, in bright light a lobster is practically blind. Lobsters cannot really see specific images but they can detect motion in dim light.'' Well, I guess he did blinded himself at the end of the movie and turned into a lobster after all.
No one ever mentions the blonde girl with the perfect hair. I think she represents people that are overly picky and overly focused on finding the perfect mate without realizing that no one is perfect. She is one of, if not the most attractive women in the hotel but she can't find a mate. And she goes on and on about how even if someone has perfect hair you don't really know if it will last because of genetics. Then she gets turned into a pony with a long mane of hair.
Nice thought! I also thought that she might represent vain people, people who care about unimportant things, since she very probably chose to be a ponny solely because she didnt want to lose her beautiful hair
She is not attractive but full of vanity based on one trait she seems to value above all. I personally know of such people who grew old and now are struggling.
The most realistic part of the movie is how David would rather date a hot sociopath that murders his brother, than a chubby woman who was crazy about him.
I thought the superficiality of the similarities the character clung to was because the limited amount of time allowed to find a mate did not allow for deeper relationships to form. As a result, people in the society had internalized this superficiality to the point that they were emotionally crippled and thought that such superficial similarities were indeed the basis of a healthy relationship. I thought that the hotel was meant to represent dating websites where algorithms try to match you based on somewhat less superficial characteristics. The point was to show how artificial and inorganic this makes dating. I saw the loners' rules as a backlash against relationships under the belief that they are merely superficial attractions between people who only care about themselves. The woman who leads the loners wants to prove that relationships are superficial and meaningless, and that is her purpose in getting the hotel manager to try to shoot his wife to save his own skin. Her disdain for the superficiality she believes is inherent in all relationships is what compels her to set up such cruel rules and to try to break up David's relationship. At the end, we see David trying to work up the courage to gouge his own eyes out because he still mistakenly believes that superficial similarities are what is necessary for a healthy relationship. I don't see it as a parallel to the guy who was willing to shoot his wife. I think we are left hanging on whether he blinds himself to emphasize the horror of the results of a society where relationships have become based on such superficial characteristics. He escaped the cruelty of the hotel and the cruelty of the loner society, but he ultimately couldn't escape the cruel results of this society.
I think he ultimately does blind himself because he is convinced that it is essential to his happiness. They tried to keep the relationship going after she was blinded, but they were stymied by the conditioning of their society.
i don't think the loners were backlashing ... i reckon they had to implement their own crude code under any circumstances .. environment wasn't the problem .. it was their dna ... ruined and flattened by some catastrophic event maybe ... i'm totally goin with 'this is a lesser universe running crude simplistic code'
yeah ... they are still fucked up when they leave the hotel ... they carry their shit with them ... it's not the environment ... it's them ....he would most def stick himself .... doomed mfs
True, but in Black Mirror talk about how technology involves with society. This movie it's more like our psychology and how we interact like a superficial society.
How tf everyone missed the part where short sighted woman said "you could've blinded him instead" showing how even here it was only David doing the true love.
Yes it was exactly the same with the hotel manager and her husband. When confronted with immediate danger it is the natural way to try to save yourself even at the expense of someone you love
He didn't blind himself IMO. I think the camera drew the audience to the outside of the shop on purpose. You didn't see him walk past the window but you were expecting it. Also in the end credits when the music stops, all you hear is the sound of the ocean, which I believe represents he chose to be alone, thus becoming a lobster.
Lobsters are nearly blind. They only see very dim dim images. I think the meaning was to be interpreted by YOU the viewer. Whether you don't believe in love and sacrifice, therefore you assume he walked out or you do believe in love and sacrifice and thought he blinded himself for love. You are what you are, with or without a partner. His profile? A lobster. I'm almost certain that was the meaning of the ending.
It does not work, my parents tried that method, now all three of us have no contact whatsoever. It should be obvious that it is not a solution, yet I'm living proof of the fact that this won't stop people from trying anyway.
Both of the loner leader’s parents played guitar, so I think the ending is more based around the fact that society would expect this new couple to be blind. It’s why David kept trying to find similarities with his partner. David could easily lie to his partner, but society would have a more difficult time believing their love. He felt a connection because they were both short-sighted. Now that she’s blind, that foundation of their relationship is lost. This man didn’t want to live a lie, because he already tried and failed to do so with the heartless woman. David even attempted to end another relationship built on lies, but unlike him, the ‘nosebleed’ couple cared more about returning to society. For me, the big question at the end of the film was, “Are you superficial enough to blind yourself,” as the weight of society and his morals grappled with the knife.
Just remembered that that it’s extremely common and encouraged to ‘trade up’. The beginning of the movie showed David’s wife leaving him for someone else. Another woman mentioned that her husband left her for someone who was better at math. David not blinding himself would raise questions as to why he’s with someone who is ‘beneath’ him.
@@TheMedicatedArtist about your last paragraph: exactly. For me i guess the film wanted to highlight in that part the superiority/ inferiority complex some people have when it comes to relationships. They cant be with someone more or less "qualified" than them.
I'm sorry I'm five years late, but your comment made me make sense of the first lines of the film. David asks a woman "did he wear glasses or contacts" leading us to believe his wife's new man is better cause he wears contacts. Mind blown
@isasantos47 thank you. I hadn't understood the question of David asking a woman at the beginning, "does he wear glasses or contacts". You made it make sense for me now.
The leader was jealous, she loved David, that's why she cruelly blinded her rival and had a fit at her parents' house when David was kissing his girlfriend. She gave another hint at her love when she told David she'd try to visit his grave everyday if he died first. She loved him madly and I think most people missed it.
Or perhaps she was so caught up in a desire to be different and truly loathed relationships and the superficiality that they demanded of both people. Either way, a compelling film
@Irislorikeet: Wrong. The one who saved his life in the forest wasn't the leader, that was the women he loved who he then brought her rabbits! The leader was jealous of their relationship yes, but she didn't save his life.
absolutely correct, and i thought it was pretty apparent too when she chose to blind the girl, but the movie actually did something that it refrained from doing in all other aspects and that is, it made it even MORE obvious and sort of on the nose (unlike the rest of the film) by giving the blind girl the line "why didn't you kill him instead (or something like that)", basically driving it home, leaving no doubt, basically TELLING the viewer, look she had these OTHER options... but the redhead chose this one because she loves david
You missed one important quote: “One day, as he was playing golf, he thought that it is more difficult to pretend that you do have feelings when you don't than to pretend you don't have feelings when you do” this is pretty much the answer of the knife and mirror ending, and pretty much the idea behind the relationship they have on the woods, and this quote was shown a lot before he went to the forest. Anyway, this is my first comment on UA-cam ever so fucking like it. 10-4
Pablo Sanchez that’s a really poignant and excellent point that i completely missed. especially because she narrated the whole movie. he told her that. he must have said it in a way that would get his feelings out without her understanding what he meant by it
David was referring to the cruel woman (the sociopath in the hotel that killed his brother) when he said that quote. It wasn't about the relationship in the woods. As the audience we hear the short-sighted girl's voice like she's narrating his life, but later we find out that it's actually the entries on her journal being read by their leader. She just wrote what David told him, it wasn't about her.
I really liked that movie, and the scene I found to be the most violent was discussed nowhere (at least I haven't seen it). Even though the dog scene and the punishment scenes (i.e. hand and mouth mutilation) were the most gruesome, they were the result of a mentally sick woman and two organized societies (human societies have done much worse, across history, to punish dissidents), so nothing really surprising. The most violent scene, to me, was witnessing how the first reaction of David's girlfriend, who seemed to be so in love with him, was to scream "why didn't you do it to him??" That shocked me because it was completely unexpected. There is no difference between her and the hotel manager who did not hesitate to pull the trigger to kill his wife. Talking of which, I read in one of the comments that David's dilemma of whether or not to blind himself was reminiscent of the manager's dilemma. I can see that BUT I believe that blinding himself would actually have been the selfish choice. David's motivation, like everyone else's, is to stay alive as a human and live as long as possible. Everyone is convinced that for that to happen, one must follow social rules which, in reality, are not NATURALLY necessary for a couple to be together (that's why David could be with the sociopath and his limping friend with the nose-bleeding girl: the only reason why no-compatibility actually breaks couples is because the "honest" partner does not accept that the other is cheating the social rule). In reality, the real proof of love would be for David to not blind himself and remain with his girlfriend regardless of her blindness, in spite of his socially-induced beliefs that if they don't have something in common they can't be together and he will end up alone and hence risk dying/become an animal (nothing is worse than being an animal bound to be eaten by a bigger animal according to David the lobster). By contrast, blinding himself would be out of fear and servility to an oppressive and unfair social system. Not only would it be a disservice to himself (as a potentially free individual), but also to his girlfriend whom he would no longer be able to assist!!! He'd rather be a long-lived slave than a short-lived freeman, no matter the cost, and even if it's going to severely handicap the woman he's supposed to love. It's actually super selfish! The very fact that our first reflex (myself included) is to feel that David blinding himself would be a proof of his amazing selfless love is showing us the extent to which we are strictly no different than selfish brainwashed David, his selfish brainwashed girlfriend who would have gladly seen him blinded instead of her, or any of the other characters in the movie! That's a powerful message...
I think that it's less that the choice is selfish, and more that the rules of the society he lives in, and the options being given to him according to those rules are completely asinine, and he could just be with her in spite of her being blind if he truly loved her.
This is great inout, but I surely can't be the only who saw Weisz looking around in the very last scene? The movie never established that she was actually blinded, and Lasik surgery does leave you temporarily blind, before you get back your vision. Giving her perfect sight would be just as cruel as blinding her, because the punishment is not on her but the relationship between her and David. I believe the last scene played out like this: David decides to foolishly blind himself for love, much like he already is blinded by love, society, and basically everyone around him. Weisz realizes at that very moment that she is regaining her vision, but is now presented with the same dilemma David is. Tell him and doom both of them, or play blind for the rest of her life to conform to these social structures that she evidently believes to be true, just as David does. Besides that point, it would seem that the bulk of society has turned completely autistic. The complete honesty 90% of the time, and the very clumsy dishonesty the rest of the time shows a severe social retardation for all of the characters. Pair that up with the universal need for very specific social structures, and the general off-ness of every single character. It's like there's this huge veil over society, and we pity the humans trying to stick their heads through it, much like we'd pity a severely autistic person who simply can not get in touch with "humanity" (or at least the general consensus on what that might be). It doesn't seem like anyone is actually a fully functioning adult, and both the establishment and the rebellion are childishly simple in their solutions. I'm in no way an expert on autism, so apologies if I've misunderstood something, but that was my take on the movie pretty early on, and it seemed to confirm the theory as the story progressed.
Clemens Stubbe Man, you can still look around if you're blind. It happens a lot (especially when people use to be able to see). They follow sounds or just move their heads and eyes outta sheer habit
she looks at the waiter's eyes, not just in his direction... though it's for a second so you're not sure like anything on purppose in this great movie. Clemens stubble, loved you're take on the ending. I believe that might have happened.
I feel that the better decision on David’s part would be to not blind himself, proving that love can still stem despite the lack of superficial traits.
I think David also had a third choice: not to blind himself, be honest with her and continue loving her as before. both of them would realize "perfect matching" was not necessary at all.
She would have left him. She said "We can't do that anymore" when he asked to kiss her before leaving the forest. She also doesn't truly love him: "Why didn't you blind him?". I think the movie tries to avoid the easy solution of just being like we are irl, because in reality it's also almost impossible to break out of the less extreme Superficiality and other hegemonic societal Values too. It would still be a nice message but I think the Film wants to make it clear that it's not that easy.
One of my interpretations: The first situation the protagonist is in, is an environment where true love (as the movie defines love) is actively sought out and yet he does not find it. The second environment is where love is punished, and he stumbles across it.
easy choice, I would become a grizzly bear. 1- i would be a fuckin bear 2-Nobody fucks with a bear unless youre leonardo di'caprio 3-I would be a fuckin bear!
I do like to point out that when you want to breed lobsters you need to blind them. You take the eyes and cut it off with a steak knife Or else they just dont mate. Its a very cruel but fortunately wont leave sequels on the animal. Anyway lobsters use those eyes that basicaly only see light levels at most, and use those to know when is the mating cycle when blind they just mate anyway. Its amazing how that fits in the history.
@@PongoXBongo I actually think that's a possibility. But maybe lobsters just do it when they don't have any eyes to see anyways, rather than when they just can't see. Though, I think that's unlikely, so now I'm just really confused.
I think there's 2 real answers, he either turned her into something bad as payback for killing his brother or made her into something common and agreeable. Turning her into a slug or similar would have satisfied his vengeance, but would have been an act of cruelty akin to her own actions, in this course of action David would essentially be admitting he has the same capacity for cruelty as the cruel woman, and as such convention would dictate they were a suitable couple. I personally think he turned her into something common, maybe a dog if he had a dark sense of humour, in this he shows the differences between them, however has to forsake his own personal desires in doing so.
Film Herald well remeber his friend said "what you did to that poor woman was terrible" so he probably turned her into a bad animal. Maybe a fish so she would suffocate?
Rabbit? The narrator is the loner girl he meets later, and he would not tell her what the animal was. I think because it would seem cannibalistic to her as she liked to eat rabbits
+Cup of Tea To me the point of life is simple. Figure out what is true. I'm about 30 and still only scratching the surface. But I'll tell you this much. There is no one out there in the world who can tell it to you. Wait, paradox detected.
I think the ending was not about whether he blinds himself or not, but about them being unable to escape society and its oppressive (and superficial) rules. After the woman was blinded, the protagonist didn't catch hares (the woman's favourite food) anymore and before they fled he didn't visit her for days. Simply loving each other without complying to the rules wasn't an option. In the end they were able to overcome the one society (loners), but they cannot survive without joining another oppressive society. The protagonist has the choice to blind himself and stick to the rules of the society where every couple has a common trait, or to not blind himself and leave the woman. Though both probably won't be able to survive alone. I think this metaphor fits not only to the partnership topic, but also to revolutions out of which a system emerges that isn't much better than the previous one.
I noticed that they are all defining themselves and what they have in common by their physical short comings (limps, bad sight, lisps, nose bleeds). Rather than say for example my love of classical music or obsession with smoked food. I think this then represents how many of us out there fall victim to our own insecurities. For many out there I believe that finding a partner really does heavily rest on the notion of finding someone that is comfortable with the traits you are not. Other than the sociopath, all the short comings are all physical, the characters are not personally responsible for them (which could be argued in the case for the sociopath). Where as traits like a short temper or sarcastic sense of humour could be personally altered or controlled over time.
Your conclusion in comparing David's decision to blind himself and the Hotel Manager's Husband's decision to shoot his wife is intriguing, but I think your essay is missing an important point, which is that David has attempted to make a decision like this before, and it failed (or did it?). Remember that he decided to fake being a sociopath in order to find a mate in the Heartless Woman. It's an important element to who David is, because his decision to transform into a lobster is logical, much like the decision to lie and fake interest in the woman in order to stay as himself. He's caught lying, leaves the hotel and ends up meeting the Short Sighted Woman, where he is brought back to relatively the same question. Does he submit himself to the limits of a relationship, blinding himself in order to have something in common with the woman he clearly loves, or does he try to lie again in order to be selfish, logical, and exist as himself: unmolested. Great video!
So you're saying that really one could draw parallels between those three scenes? In his relationship with the sociopathic woman he's essentially refusing to blind himself for the sake of the relationship?
Not strictly draw a parallel, because the relationship between David and the Heartless Woman isn't even. She doesn't believe he's a sociopath and believes in the necessity of having something in common, and he just wants to survive. When it comes to David and the Short Sighted Woman, they both know they love each other, but struggle with the norms associated with having something in common when she goes blind. Therefore, David's decision is a reflection of whether he can lie in order to survive (not blind himself) or actually commit to a selfless act.
I think you're definitely on to something there. I found the hardest part coming to grips with interpreting this film was fully wrapping my head around the fact that in this world, commonalities are fundamentally vital for a romantic relationship to occur. I think your conclusion is totally valid. Thanks for watching and contributing to the discussion! My favorite part of making videos like this is making connections with people like you who also enjoy interpreting film.
I think you both have valid points. I'm a few years behind watching this film, but that's the beauty of cinema. It is timeless. Just to point out a couple of things, firstly, having something in common is definitely crucial for a romantic union to occur, but more specifically, it is a requirement to live in the city. To have something in common with one's partner is a mechanism for "freedom" in this society. Interestingly enough, most of the pairings were based on physical similarities (e.g. a limp, a lisp, or eyesight in David's case), but his choice to adapt his behavior to pair with the Heartless Woman was always askew because he wasn't acting as his authentic self. There are many glimpses into David's character that show his loyalty. His dog's (brother) death was too overwhelming for him to play it off as if it was nothing. His oversharing about his bisexuality at the interview process and laboured pause when having to choose his sexuality showed his vulnerability and thoughtfulness. He definitely made some hard decisions as he was trying to survive, but his fear of losing Rachel Weisz's character led him back to his truth when we see him tell the woman with the bloody nose the truth about her partner and his mental photograph he takes of his partner at the end before he walks into the bathroom. I do think this film is wonderful though because it shows how fear and deep the relationship conditioning is for human cultures. Thanks for sharing!
My interpretation when I first watched this was completely different. I took this as a critique on the loneliness, detachment, and superficiality that plagues the society we live in. The characters’ lack of emotion and the awkwardness of their dialogue speak to their loss of what makes them human after living in such a cold place for so long. The blueish, darkish filter and the setting used by Yorgos also highlight that coldness. To me, this is a film portraying a dystopian vision of what the world could amount to if we continue down the path we’re currently on. It could reach the point where draconian measures like this need to be put in place to solve this global epidemic of loneliness.
There's a theory that the Loner Leader is a bisexual woman who rebelled because the Hotel cancelled the bisexual option for sexual orientation, and she is attracted to both David and Rachel Weiss's character, and acts out of both spite and jealousy. Also the ending: I get that love is about sacrifice and her blindness and resentment was putting a strain on their relationship, but stabbing yourself in the eyes is too much to ask for from a lover, and I expected to see David booking it down the freeway outside the diner window.
Also why the FUCK didn't they just go to the police or return to society once they fell in love? Turn that bitchy leader in, you're a couple now, you have all the privileges.
Watched The Lobster last night and the question at the end to me...was not whether he blinded himself or not as much as did he abandon her or not. There's the last shot of her sitting at the table waiting for him to return. So, was it just taking him a while, or did he take off?
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bryanna cassidy It's not meant to make sense. The entire reason why people partner up in the film is because they have, or seem to have, the same superficial qualities. The fact that they do this, and the fact that part of David feels he must blind himself at the end to stay with the Near-Sighted Woman, not only fits in with this idea but also is a satire of our own society.
But if there would be so to speak a message to the viewers, you would not make a decision within interpretation of Davids, an idea of blinding yourself immediately would put you in position of saying no, so It makes not sense like he mentioned, if the end message would be to have a limp leg like the other character had, that would be an easy decision, or even have nose bleeds it would make sense, nose bleeds aren't comfortable, but it would make up for the sacrifice, so therefore I don't think the message laves a choice for a viewer, its un realistic, then again, in can interpreted other way, as in love is blind, who knows. But at the end they chose to make it david to be blind or not, so they ment to leave a strong opinion, I dont think the ending is ment to be understood like that.
Excellent analysis and review! Really enjoyed this! I have to say, I don’t think I was ready for this movie when I saw it the first time and left baffled and confused. But, each rewatch reveals a darker, funnier and more brilliant film that I now list among my favorites. It took the excellent The Favourite (which I loved) to make me want to go back and rewatch The Lobster.
Keep up the good work man. Your explanation reviews are more or less same quality as Nerdwriter and he has a much bigger sub base. You really deserve more subs.
I think the ending that would show "love" is if he doesn't blind himself, and still continues to love her the way she is. That wouldn't be saving himself, it would be accepting their differences and living with it ultimately because they care for each other and want to be together. Sad that the only thing stopping him is these superficial laws that make him think things wouldn't work out if they're not "compatible" by societal standards.
And spend the rest of your life without a brain or nervous system, not being aware of your own existence apart the need to eat. Sounds like a wonderfull life
**** Spoiler ** Ending Theory **** I think David dies from the knife going too far into his face, connecting to the donkey couple in the beginning. The 2 factions in the movie don't care about personal happiness, only that people fall in line. The woman who shot one of the donkeys didn't pay attention to the possibility that the 2 donkeys were happy. David and the Blind(Near Sighted) Woman were already happy together but felt forced to conform and suffer the consequences for doing do.
Yeah and It wasn't just him doing that. All the characters whether solitary or couples were attempting to conform. His heart tried to break out of the conformity but the world he lived in made the price of breaking out too high. He either had to stab himself or turn into a rabbit. Apparently the Heartless Woman tasted good as a rabbit. Well Lestat once said that "evildoers are easier....and they taste better!"
Did anybody else think the plan David secretly discussed involved turning himself into a dog to be a guide for the woman? Also, the ending sequence showed a lot of construction vehicles through the window which could be interpreted as a metaphor for the superficial construction of the relationship which was built by society...
A Timberwolf. Not only did they outlast terrorbirds and saber-toothed cats, but they are incredibly social creatures with a capacity for emotion that I would argue exceeds our own in "the current year."
to me the true way he would be able to prove if he loves her or not would be to not blind him self simply because when u truly love someone having everything in common doesn't matter to u its just being with them that does. and also him telling her he's not blind as well would be what would have to happen
that's the point of the film in a way. they don't have that rule. it's not a set in stone rule. the rule is they have to find a partner. to marry in 45 days. so they look for any little materialistic reason they could far in love. so the question of the movie is " is having something in common with someone as important as love out right, or can you be 2 different peopel with different qualities and still be in love, are materialistic things really that important"
Exactly, also he should choose to not blind himself to be able to serve his love and protect her! If they are both suddenly blind, how would they live and survive without any help from other people in that creepy city!
Doesn't the last scene represent something more simple too? "Love is blind". He is hesitant because he understands he will lose his reasoning, he will "fall" like her, and then be again at the mercy of his blindness.
I think you missed the fact that the forest leader didn't blind Rachel Weisz's character, instead her eye sight got fixed. You can see the hints at the end of the movie that she regained her vision, so all that time after her eye surgery (and asking David to blind himself) was a test to see whether he truly loves her. The ending was left somewhat ambiguous, but my guess is that David blinded himself out of love but later found out that the women wasn't blind, so they were not a match anymore and David gets turned into a lobster. So the movie ends with the conclusion that even true love that passes the test may not succeed because of what your partner had to endure. But a conventional marriage like the hotel managers cannot pass the test. Either way we are f'cked.
There are too many confirmations she is blind like the doctor saying he blinded her, her stabbing the maid instead, leader admitting she blinded her, etc.
At first I was sceptical that one could explain "The Lobster". Because I've watched the press conference in Cannes that Lanthimos & his cast gave in 2015, where he explicitly said that the film seeks to pose questions, rather than answer any. But you've done a pretty good job with the analysis here. Congratulations! (And don't bother about the negative comments - this is not a movie for the masses; the majority of people will just never get why this film is important.) Best wishes, Ralitza
its the fine attention to detail in the end. There's a reason why the director made the scene long with just her in the end. She looks at the waiter before he pours the glass and even looks up at his face and then trails off to when he leaves. Then looks out at the window and looks at the bathroom hall where David left, waiting for him to comeback, which he doesn't and either: A) knew she was lying or was suspect of her and ran away or B) thought she was blind but couldn't commit like the man with the revolver and wife and ran away. (I used to think it was David blinding himself but couldn't find his way back, but I was not watching the scenes closely and paid attention to the director's attention to detail.
Lobsters are immortal, yes, but as they get older they find it harder to shed there shell, meaning they die if they cant. Also from oradinary getting killed by injuries. So I would be a tardigrade as they are literally invincible and live forever and since I was a human I would be as smart as a human making me near to a perfect lifeform.
I thought long and hard about that possibility, and I don't believe it's the case because the characters in this world don't function like you and I do. They are parody versions of real people. It took me a long time to grasp that.
only one thing to say WOAW , honestly never heard of the film just the plot seems amazing and the tone you describe just blows me away , I have to see this film 20 times . It's so deep yet keep itself funny in a dry way this is just amazing
I think that in the end, every relatioship is condemned to pass trough the things they had in common at first, and for the relationship to grow, someone has to make sacrifices (in this case David blinding himself)
This movie stuck with me for several days invoking thoughts like great films do. The soundtrack and violins, the texture and vibration during the scenes give it warmth and I imagined the director and I were nodding in agreement to his choices, catching myself laughing inappropriately while feeling embarrassed like watching the clockwork orange for the first time. In our days it is refreshing, a film like this especially in a world of plagiarized marvel horseshit, we deserved it..
Great essay though I personally thought the final scene was rather a question of the worth of commonalities in relationships on which most relationships are founded and in showing this, was relaying to the audience how ridiculous and perplexing it is that we base relationships solely on commonalities and in effect there is no love without them.
While I don't necessarily agree, I think due to the ambiguity of the film, your interpretation is just as valid. I honestly wish I had found more interviews of the director (if they exist) talking about exactly what the film was about because he only spoke about it in very broad themes in the interviews I watched. I should probably watch Dogtooth to get a better sense of his thought process.
Yeah, I wish he had more to say too, but filmmakers like to be like magicians sometimes. Expose too much and it ruins the illusion which I somewhat agree with now that a large portion of media now is meant to do the thinking for you. I've seen Dogtooth and though I think you should watch it, I don't think it'll help much other than illuminate the director's proclivity for, broadly speaking, subversion. He's kind of like a comedian to me, just trying to point out the threads and "flaws" of society.
Yeah I don't mind it being up for interpretation. I get why filmmakers do that and it makes for interesting films. That said I'll be tackling "Knight of Cups" in a future video... wish me luck :O . I'll definitely check out Dogtooth at some point. Can't wait to see what Lanthimos will bring to the table next. I didn't really like The Lobster on a first viewing but the more I thought about it the more it grew on me.
Film Herald Yeah, definitely have to wish you luck on that film. Film is almost literally a layer cake. Never thought it would grow on me, but now I'm curious what you come up with and just the thought has me wondering what it would be like if I only listened or only watched it with no sound. Also, though not really a film that will gather views if analysed, I recommend you watch Entertainment. It's... interesting to say the least. Also, like to hear your opinion on Neon Demon, though I think the whole movie needs a close analysis and not just the ending.
Ooh, good suggestions. I've been wanting to see Neon Demon for a while but I kind of forgot it existed. Will watch Entertainment as well. Man John C. Reilly sure gets around, doesn't he?
Brilliantly said. I watched the interview with Colin and Rachel, neither of them seemed to truly understand the movie. They understood the characters all too well: they could not see beyond it. Can't disagree with anything here. It reminds me of when I was single. It parallels the trials and tribulations of the dating world all too well and what is expected of us. As you said, even when we rebel, we end up forming our own rules, but being oblivious, we are unable to rebel against our self imposed rules...
Idk if anybody else noticed this, but I felt like every single character was selfish, determined to do anything for their own benefits, and i think all of their actions pretty much proves that
Not all people who are single think their lives are less meaningful, I have something to live for now, I have someone I love more than anything, he saved my life, he made me happy to live, he makes me want to see the next day, he is everything to me.
No no no! The ending is kept open because You are David. That's what the film is telling you. It's your choice, some choices are shown in the film. I think. At the end, you are the 1 who have to choose whether to sacrifice your significant thing for keeping the relationship or fake or leave alone forever or something else. It's what you choose. That's why the ending is kept open.
At the end, when David is preparing to poke his eyes out - I was yelling at my TV about how awful the movie was... and I could only look through a tiny crack between the fingers of my hand (which I was holding up to block the view). My whole family agreed that we hated the movie, but we spent a good bit of the next day talking about it. Oh.. and we all had nightmares. Awesome, just awesome!
I always just assumed the donkey was someone the woman either had a previous relationship with or really disliked while he/she was human. Whether or not that's still considered "murder" in this society, I don't know, but I suspect it isn't. I never really put more thought into it than that.
From what I've read. It's just one of those things meant to take on new meaning after watching the movie. The identity of the characters they portray are intended to be rather trivial. Though a few viewers have suggested the "cruel woman" may have been turned into the donkey.
Donkey could be the one left another like David's position at the beginning of the movie, who left and ruined the relationship, love she had (how could you trace down the right donkey by the way?) One of those what love makes someone do, don'ts situations (I hope my grammar catches what I mean, I might go study English, return and edit here) David forgets his partner easily right? Do everybody pretend in the outside world? Slight chances, what is unexpected happens. I don't know. Here has far more thoughts than director's, crews' interviews, thank you owner and everybody
Just thinking out-loud here... I would so love to know what the status is (single or coupled) of all the folks who responded and said how much they loved this film! And along those same lines ~ did viewing this film depress or give hope &/or solace to those folks who are single or those who are half of a couple? So many questions... (or do I just have way too much time on my hands this rainy lazy Sunday afternoon I watched this film?!!) P.S. I am a very Happily Married Gay Bloke myself, and so friggin’ grateful to have found my beloved, as I spent a great deal of my life searching to find the Ying to my Yang, the Garfunkel to my Simon, and/or the Lennon to my McCartney! (Or as the minister said; the Ricky to my Lucy!) Happy to report I found him, as I was only a few years away from Lobster-hood!
People who think relationships are just social constructs just haven't been in a good relationship. I was in this group after several failed relationships. And then I met the one. The person who I truly felt a connection to. Someone I know I would be willing to die for. Now I am not currently catholic. I was raised catholic (so I know a lot about the teachings) but as of right now I don't know what I believe. But in the catholic faith, some people are called by god to be single. Not everyone is called to marriage. So if you feel like you don't need to be in a relationship, by all means you could be right. But don't be so committed to that idea that you actively run form anyone you feel a connection with. Be open to the idea of a relationship without feeling incomplete without one.
I think relationships stem from jealousy. People are too jealous to ever be comfortable with a partner being unfaithful. Why do people cheat on each other all the time? Very often its because they want variety, or grow tired of their partner alone. And yet those same people can't stand their partner cheating, which is complete hypocrisy. It's like we weren't built for monogamy, but our growth in intelligence and emotional complexity has made us unable to accept a partner cheating. Relationships are definitely a social construct, and I can't say if love is or isn't real, but many people seem to refuse to acknowledge the reason relationships exist to begin with.
Unless it's purely about rebelling against society's rules and expectations, there is no real reason for the loner society to exist. Any two people who don't want to be in a relationship can say that they're together, get a certificate, and live separate lives as they please.
Limey Figdet they still have to go everywhere with another person though from what I understood. You can only use the “my partners in the store/bathroom” excuse for so long.
The Lobster is one of the best satires committed to film, it draws a very blurred line between being amusing and depressing but I found it to be quite relatable.
I thought one of the funniest moments was when they gave their solution to a couple that doesn't get along: give them a child.
Agreed!
Yes! That was the only time I laughed during the whole movie.
I actually laughed when I heard that line. This movie is a gift that keeps giving
Wow. None of those Lobsters at walmart saw me wave at them all 1000 times :(
David who kicks the child
“Single people are constantly bombarded with the idea that their lives are less meaningful because they don’t have a partner”
Most real thing I have heard all day.
I guess we need to look at the importance of reproduction. If we break down the human and one thing we need more than any other is to reproduce. If we fail at reproduction humans will become extinct. I wonder how much of that importance relies on our instinct to reproduce. Maybe it’s that we look at couples as those more likely to do so. Therefore we tend to have their worth greater in society.
@@muaythaidadbronco7312 Originally, humans probably chose a person to mate with based on their skills in bed. Of course only mating with one person was not the status quo. In todays society people that are good in bed are seen as players / sluts, and having more than one partner is very frowned upon. So the ideal human for reproduction has changed from being good a s*x to being good at attracting the opposite gender, specifically another one who's good at attracting the opposite gender. Repeat that ideology for multiple generations and you have yourself a hierarchy of those who are more attractive being higher up. Couples that are cute together / both good looking are at the top. So in my opinion, societies pressure on us slowly molded our instincts to reproduce in a specific way, in doing so it praised certain people more than others (good looking ppl / couples) and now here we are today.
Dude you're totally wrong. Humans have and will always choose mates judging by their genetic quality, which is expressed in being tall, masculine, broad shouldered, deep voice, facial symmetry, jawline, genital size, etc on men. Saying we chose our mates based on how well they fucked is retarded. You aren't attracted to someone due to their skills because it's literally impossible to judge that without actually banging them.
@@martindizlindahl3649 all the factors you just mentioned are signs of being good in bed -_- literally.
Sorta hurts tho ngl
I did a little research about lobsters after watching the movie and that's what I found:
''You would think that with all these “tiny eyes” that lobsters would have excellent vision, but ironically they do not. In fact, in bright light a lobster is practically blind. Lobsters cannot really see specific images but they can detect motion in dim light.''
Well, I guess he did blinded himself at the end of the movie and turned into a lobster after all.
Great find!
Lobsters have 2 eyes i thought
Did you go into the lobster's mind to find out what exactly they see?
If you bothered to listen to the sound playing during the credits - it is the sound of waves on the shoreline = the ocean = the lobster
ohhh i was cringing so hard, the thought of stabbing your own eye with a steak knife is so frightening
No one ever mentions the blonde girl with the perfect hair. I think she represents people that are overly picky and overly focused on finding the perfect mate without realizing that no one is perfect. She is one of, if not the most attractive women in the hotel but she can't find a mate. And she goes on and on about how even if someone has perfect hair you don't really know if it will last because of genetics. Then she gets turned into a pony with a long mane of hair.
noiceee
Nice thought! I also thought that she might represent vain people, people who care about unimportant things,
since she very probably chose to be a ponny solely because she didnt want to lose her beautiful hair
i just realised im that girl
fuck
@@gulayse9065 get ready for becoming a pony then 😕
She is not attractive but full of vanity based on one trait she seems to value above all. I personally know of such people who grew old and now are struggling.
The most realistic part of the movie is how David would rather date a hot sociopath that murders his brother, than a chubby woman who was crazy about him.
The chubby girl was The cutest imo.
Id have done the same. Chubbs is weird clingy desperation.
@@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 yes she seemed desperate and proved to be crazy
You can tell he had a rude wake up call when he saw the blood on her legs. He initially thought she was joking and played along
I think for me, no one is really “in love” with someone in the hotel. They just don’t want to turn into animals.
Red lobster ad before clip. Awesome.
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Pass the garlic butter
I'd be a business cat
But you're already a business cat
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two business cats at once
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Everyone would be your slave.
I thought the superficiality of the similarities the character clung to was because the limited amount of time allowed to find a mate did not allow for deeper relationships to form. As a result, people in the society had internalized this superficiality to the point that they were emotionally crippled and thought that such superficial similarities were indeed the basis of a healthy relationship. I thought that the hotel was meant to represent dating websites where algorithms try to match you based on somewhat less superficial characteristics. The point was to show how artificial and inorganic this makes dating.
I saw the loners' rules as a backlash against relationships under the belief that they are merely superficial attractions between people who only care about themselves. The woman who leads the loners wants to prove that relationships are superficial and meaningless, and that is her purpose in getting the hotel manager to try to shoot his wife to save his own skin. Her disdain for the superficiality she believes is inherent in all relationships is what compels her to set up such cruel rules and to try to break up David's relationship.
At the end, we see David trying to work up the courage to gouge his own eyes out because he still mistakenly believes that superficial similarities are what is necessary for a healthy relationship. I don't see it as a parallel to the guy who was willing to shoot his wife. I think we are left hanging on whether he blinds himself to emphasize the horror of the results of a society where relationships have become based on such superficial characteristics. He escaped the cruelty of the hotel and the cruelty of the loner society, but he ultimately couldn't escape the cruel results of this society.
Great post! Do you think David has the courage to blind himself or, rather, the courage not to?
I think he ultimately does blind himself because he is convinced that it is essential to his happiness. They tried to keep the relationship going after she was blinded, but they were stymied by the conditioning of their society.
Doing predestination? go fuck yourself
i don't think the loners were backlashing ... i reckon they had to implement their own crude code under any circumstances .. environment wasn't the problem .. it was their dna ... ruined and flattened by some catastrophic event maybe ... i'm totally goin with 'this is a lesser universe running crude simplistic code'
yeah ... they are still fucked up when they leave the hotel ... they carry their shit with them ... it's not the environment ... it's them ....he would most def stick himself .... doomed mfs
Did anyone feel that this felt like an episode of Black Mirror?
Black Mirror is not this good
Totally! That is was I thinking too!
True, but in Black Mirror talk about how technology involves with society. This movie it's more like our psychology and how we interact like a superficial society.
There are indeed Hang the DJ vibes with the 'forced' relationship setting.
Yes i always forget if this is a movie or a black mirror ep
How tf everyone missed the part where short sighted woman said "you could've blinded him instead" showing how even here it was only David doing the true love.
yeah that line was disappointing
FUCK I missed that :(
I thought the same thing. That was kind of two faced.
Yes it was exactly the same with the hotel manager and her husband. When confronted with immediate danger it is the natural way to try to save yourself even at the expense of someone you love
I thought I was the only one who caught that also ? That’s so messed up ….
He didn't blind himself IMO.
I think the camera drew the audience to the outside of the shop on purpose. You didn't see him walk past the window but you were expecting it.
Also in the end credits when the music stops, all you hear is the sound of the ocean, which I believe represents he chose to be alone, thus becoming a lobster.
Al Bundy good point
I expected a scream
Lobsters are nearly blind. They only see very dim dim images.
I think the meaning was to be interpreted by YOU the viewer. Whether you don't believe in love and sacrifice, therefore you assume he walked out or you do believe in love and sacrifice and thought he blinded himself for love.
You are what you are, with or without a partner. His profile? A lobster.
I'm almost certain that was the meaning of the ending.
I def think he blinded himselg
But he also could have blinded himself and became a lobster metaphorically. Lobsters are very blind in the light.
I would have chosen the majestic and regal Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Because why not?
I think you win
John Mihelis a dragon
John Mihelis ....yeah actually
John Mihelis So i didnt, watch the movie, kind of want to now, but do people retain their conscience as an animal?
Doesn't Earth's atmosphere not support dinosaurs anymore, due to different oxygen levels? Or am I dead wrong? Probably.
Great analysis! And remeber, If you encounter any problems you cannot resolve yourselves, you will be assigned children, that usually helps.
zaco666 yes. I laughed out loud.
The first time I mebered, it didn't hold, so I had to remeber.
It does not work, my parents tried that method, now all three of us have no contact whatsoever.
It should be obvious that it is not a solution, yet I'm living proof of the fact that this won't stop people from trying anyway.
@@creativedesignation7880 It works for some.
@@sheezy2526it probably won't work
I'm a lobster. If I don't find a mate in 45 days they're going to turn me into an alienated human
niceee 😂
Did you find one? @@epixbear5594
Both of the loner leader’s parents played guitar, so I think the ending is more based around the fact that society would expect this new couple to be blind. It’s why David kept trying to find similarities with his partner.
David could easily lie to his partner, but society would have a more difficult time believing their love. He felt a connection because they were both short-sighted. Now that she’s blind, that foundation of their relationship is lost.
This man didn’t want to live a lie, because he already tried and failed to do so with the heartless woman. David even attempted to end another relationship built on lies, but unlike him, the ‘nosebleed’ couple cared more about returning to society.
For me, the big question at the end of the film was, “Are you superficial enough to blind yourself,” as the weight of society and his morals grappled with the knife.
Just remembered that that it’s extremely common and encouraged to ‘trade up’. The beginning of the movie showed David’s wife leaving him for someone else. Another woman mentioned that her husband left her for someone who was better at math.
David not blinding himself would raise questions as to why he’s with someone who is ‘beneath’ him.
@@TheMedicatedArtist about your last paragraph: exactly. For me i guess the film wanted to highlight in that part the superiority/ inferiority complex some people have when it comes to relationships. They cant be with someone more or less "qualified" than them.
I'm sorry I'm five years late, but your comment made me make sense of the first lines of the film. David asks a woman "did he wear glasses or contacts" leading us to believe his wife's new man is better cause he wears contacts. Mind blown
@isasantos47 thank you. I hadn't understood the question of David asking a woman at the beginning, "does he wear glasses or contacts". You made it make sense for me now.
That last work was amazing ❤❤❤
The leader was jealous, she loved David, that's why she cruelly blinded her rival and had a fit at her parents' house when David was kissing his girlfriend. She gave another hint at her love when she told David she'd try to visit his grave everyday if he died first. She loved him madly and I think most people missed it.
Excellent point. She also helped him when he was nearly shot by one of the hotel guests on one of their hunting outings.
Or perhaps she was so caught up in a desire to be different and truly loathed relationships and the superficiality that they demanded of both people. Either way, a compelling film
Irislorikeet that wasn't her i might be mistaken but I think that it was the maid I could be wrong but I don't think she liked David like that
@Irislorikeet: Wrong. The one who saved his life in the forest wasn't the leader, that was the women he loved who he then brought her rabbits! The leader was jealous of their relationship yes, but she didn't save his life.
absolutely correct, and i thought it was pretty apparent too when she chose to blind the girl, but the movie actually did something that it refrained from doing in all other aspects and that is, it made it even MORE obvious and sort of on the nose (unlike the rest of the film) by giving the blind girl the line "why didn't you kill him instead (or something like that)", basically driving it home, leaving no doubt, basically TELLING the viewer, look she had these OTHER options... but the redhead chose this one because she loves david
You missed one important quote: “One day, as he was playing golf, he thought that it is more difficult to pretend that you do have feelings when you don't than to pretend you don't have feelings when you do” this is pretty much the answer of the knife and mirror ending, and pretty much the idea behind the relationship they have on the woods, and this quote was shown a lot before he went to the forest.
Anyway, this is my first comment on UA-cam ever so fucking like it.
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Pablo Sanchez that’s a really poignant and excellent point that i completely missed. especially because she narrated the whole movie. he told her that. he must have said it in a way that would get his feelings out without her understanding what he meant by it
David was referring to the cruel woman (the sociopath in the hotel that killed his brother) when he said that quote. It wasn't about the relationship in the woods.
As the audience we hear the short-sighted girl's voice like she's narrating his life, but later we find out that it's actually the entries on her journal being read by their leader. She just wrote what David told him, it wasn't about her.
Perfectly said..........
U nailed it
I really liked that movie, and the scene I found to be the most violent was discussed nowhere (at least I haven't seen it). Even though the dog scene and the punishment scenes (i.e. hand and mouth mutilation) were the most gruesome, they were the result of a mentally sick woman and two organized societies (human societies have done much worse, across history, to punish dissidents), so nothing really surprising. The most violent scene, to me, was witnessing how the first reaction of David's girlfriend, who seemed to be so in love with him, was to scream "why didn't you do it to him??" That shocked me because it was completely unexpected. There is no difference between her and the hotel manager who did not hesitate to pull the trigger to kill his wife.
Talking of which, I read in one of the comments that David's dilemma of whether or not to blind himself was reminiscent of the manager's dilemma. I can see that BUT I believe that blinding himself would actually have been the selfish choice. David's motivation, like everyone else's, is to stay alive as a human and live as long as possible. Everyone is convinced that for that to happen, one must follow social rules which, in reality, are not NATURALLY necessary for a couple to be together (that's why David could be with the sociopath and his limping friend with the nose-bleeding girl: the only reason why no-compatibility actually breaks couples is because the "honest" partner does not accept that the other is cheating the social rule).
In reality, the real proof of love would be for David to not blind himself and remain with his girlfriend regardless of her blindness, in spite of his socially-induced beliefs that if they don't have something in common they can't be together and he will end up alone and hence risk dying/become an animal (nothing is worse than being an animal bound to be eaten by a bigger animal according to David the lobster). By contrast, blinding himself would be out of fear and servility to an oppressive and unfair social system. Not only would it be a disservice to himself (as a potentially free individual), but also to his girlfriend whom he would no longer be able to assist!!! He'd rather be a long-lived slave than a short-lived freeman, no matter the cost, and even if it's going to severely handicap the woman he's supposed to love. It's actually super selfish!
The very fact that our first reflex (myself included) is to feel that David blinding himself would be a proof of his amazing selfless love is showing us the extent to which we are strictly no different than selfish brainwashed David, his selfish brainwashed girlfriend who would have gladly seen him blinded instead of her, or any of the other characters in the movie! That's a powerful message...
I think that it's less that the choice is selfish, and more that the rules of the society he lives in, and the options being given to him according to those rules are completely asinine, and he could just be with her in spite of her being blind if he truly loved her.
This is great inout, but I surely can't be the only who saw Weisz looking around in the very last scene? The movie never established that she was actually blinded, and Lasik surgery does leave you temporarily blind, before you get back your vision. Giving her perfect sight would be just as cruel as blinding her, because the punishment is not on her but the relationship between her and David.
I believe the last scene played out like this:
David decides to foolishly blind himself for love, much like he already is blinded by love, society, and basically everyone around him.
Weisz realizes at that very moment that she is regaining her vision, but is now presented with the same dilemma David is. Tell him and doom both of them, or play blind for the rest of her life to conform to these social structures that she evidently believes to be true, just as David does.
Besides that point, it would seem that the bulk of society has turned completely autistic. The complete honesty 90% of the time, and the very clumsy dishonesty the rest of the time shows a severe social retardation for all of the characters. Pair that up with the universal need for very specific social structures, and the general off-ness of every single character. It's like there's this huge veil over society, and we pity the humans trying to stick their heads through it, much like we'd pity a severely autistic person who simply can not get in touch with "humanity" (or at least the general consensus on what that might be). It doesn't seem like anyone is actually a fully functioning adult, and both the establishment and the rebellion are childishly simple in their solutions.
I'm in no way an expert on autism, so apologies if I've misunderstood something, but that was my take on the movie pretty early on, and it seemed to confirm the theory as the story progressed.
Clemens Stubbe Man, you can still look around if you're blind. It happens a lot (especially when people use to be able to see). They follow sounds or just move their heads and eyes outta sheer habit
she looks at the waiter's eyes, not just in his direction... though it's for a second so you're not sure
like anything on purppose in this great movie.
Clemens stubble, loved you're take on the ending. I believe that might have happened.
wow thats a brilliant analysis!! love it
The shocking part of this movie was that horrible woman killing the dog 😭
That was one of the scenes where you have to be in that "It's only a movie" mindset or else it's too sad
I almost had to stop the movie because of how gutted I was... was not expecting that
John Wick would never let that slip
I feel that the better decision on David’s part would be to not blind himself, proving that love can still stem despite the lack of superficial traits.
That would go against the rules of the movie. He had 2 choices & that wasn’t one of them
I think David also had a third choice: not to blind himself, be honest with her and continue loving her as before. both of them would realize "perfect matching" was not necessary at all.
She would have left him. She said "We can't do that anymore" when he asked to kiss her before leaving the forest. She also doesn't truly love him: "Why didn't you blind him?".
I think the movie tries to avoid the easy solution of just being like we are irl, because in reality it's also almost impossible to break out of the less extreme Superficiality and other hegemonic societal Values too.
It would still be a nice message but I think the Film wants to make it clear that it's not that easy.
@@mofynn well said
How is this a comedy i was more in shock every scene than laughing
That's why it's a "dark comedy"
This was a horror movie. Straight up. The scene with the 'butter biscuit woman' and her suicide attempt made me nauseous.
For me it was a horror when I watched it but now in hindsight some of the events are comedic.
I did not laugh once, yet I cried multiple times
I was laughing throughout the movie at the straight forward awkwardness of some of the scenes lol
To sum up this video and movie in one line;
“WHAT IS LOVE? BABY DON’T HURT ME, DON’T HURT ME, NO MORE.”
I guess you can say this movie
Gives love a bad name
narwaler SHOT THROUGH THE HEART-
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One of my interpretations:
The first situation the protagonist is in, is an environment where true love (as the movie defines love) is actively sought out and yet he does not find it.
The second environment is where love is punished, and he stumbles across it.
Love is great and all, but I’d be bit hesitant to gouge my eyes out with a pencil for anybody
*steak knife
give it all but your ear - van gogh probably
well guess youll be turned into an animal after all 😂😂 the movie does it that way that you have no options
easy choice, I would become a grizzly bear.
1- i would be a fuckin bear
2-Nobody fucks with a bear unless youre leonardo di'caprio
3-I would be a fuckin bear!
Francisco Pereira what is with a t-rex
4- will fuck a bear
Mines better. I'd be a bald eagle. Diplomatic immunity, bitch. Good luck catching me up there. Also, people hunt bears.
Davy Crockett killed his first bear at the age of 3.
Um no that was Chuck Norris
I do like to point out that when you want to breed lobsters you need to blind them.
You take the eyes and cut it off with a steak knife Or else they just dont mate.
Its a very cruel but fortunately wont leave sequels on the animal.
Anyway lobsters use those eyes that basicaly only see light levels at most, and use those to know when is the mating cycle when blind they just mate anyway.
Its amazing how that fits in the history.
Couldn't you just like turn the lights out instead of chopping their eyes off?
@@PongoXBongo I actually think that's a possibility. But maybe lobsters just do it when they don't have any eyes to see anyways, rather than when they just can't see. Though, I think that's unlikely, so now I'm just really confused.
Wont leave sequels on the animal?
now that made sense why blind...
@@senseiimmandias the commenter said when they see dark their instinct goes oh its Still winter, dont mate.
When blind they mate if given warmt
Additional question: If you saw the film, what animal do you think David turned the cruel woman into?
I think there's 2 real answers, he either turned her into something bad as payback for killing his brother or made her into something common and agreeable. Turning her into a slug or similar would have satisfied his vengeance, but would have been an act of cruelty akin to her own actions, in this course of action David would essentially be admitting he has the same capacity for cruelty as the cruel woman, and as such convention would dictate they were a suitable couple. I personally think he turned her into something common, maybe a dog if he had a dark sense of humour, in this he shows the differences between them, however has to forsake his own personal desires in doing so.
Film Herald well remeber his friend said "what you did to that poor woman was terrible" so he probably turned her into a bad animal. Maybe a fish so she would suffocate?
Film Herald I would be a racoon. seen as a neusance and normally found alone just trying to get by.
I say "pig", just because you see a pig just a few moments later... not sure though, been a while.
Rabbit? The narrator is the loner girl he meets later, and he would not tell her what the animal was. I think because it would seem cannibalistic to her as she liked to eat rabbits
I was pretty high when I watched the movie, it's way deeper than I remember
but if he blinds himself he's conforming to the superficial laws of the relationships in his society.
jobowisheshewasnomo thats what I thought too staying seeing but not lieing and saying he was blind would be best
This is sooo deep thats my head hurts.
Red clay my mind is deeper, I am 13 yet I already figured out what the point to life is, what is counted as dead and alive, so many things
you are 13 ..... just wait after 20s nothing will make sense ....
Cup of Tea pretentious
Is that a thats what she said joke
+Cup of Tea To me the point of life is simple. Figure out what is true. I'm about 30 and still only scratching the surface. But I'll tell you this much. There is no one out there in the world who can tell it to you. Wait, paradox detected.
This is what a good UA-cam channel on the rise looks like, keep up the great work. Never give up man.
I would choose to be human because technically a human is an animal
Tanner Lampman I was thinking the same thing before I found this commwnt
Tanner Lampman and you could punch kangaroos
George Povey occurs
No humans n animals are two different thing animals are our food dude they dont have intelligence like we do
Justin Washington Sigh...
I think the ending was not about whether he blinds himself or not, but about them being unable to escape society and its oppressive (and superficial) rules. After the woman was blinded, the protagonist didn't catch hares (the woman's favourite food) anymore and before they fled he didn't visit her for days. Simply loving each other without complying to the rules wasn't an option. In the end they were able to overcome the one society (loners), but they cannot survive without joining another oppressive society. The protagonist has the choice to blind himself and stick to the rules of the society where every couple has a common trait, or to not blind himself and leave the woman. Though both probably won't be able to survive alone.
I think this metaphor fits not only to the partnership topic, but also to revolutions out of which a system emerges that isn't much better than the previous one.
I noticed that they are all defining themselves and what they have in common by their physical short comings (limps, bad sight, lisps, nose bleeds). Rather than say for example my love of classical music or obsession with smoked food. I think this then represents how many of us out there fall victim to our own insecurities. For many out there I believe that finding a partner really does heavily rest on the notion of finding someone that is comfortable with the traits you are not.
Other than the sociopath, all the short comings are all physical, the characters are not personally responsible for them (which could be argued in the case for the sociopath). Where as traits like a short temper or sarcastic sense of humour could be personally altered or controlled over time.
what if he only stabs one eye so tectnectly he is not lying, and he can still see
44 or 45, there are no half sizes
Rayanne Florence a genius response. Lol
i think better to be a lopster than be blind with some blind moody girl that you barely know....
Well that’s kind of a copout if he does only stab one eye He’s not choosing anything
It’s either all in one or the other
@@rayanneflorence1830 Absolut mastermind
David's dog is his brother, who was turned into a dog because he couldn't find a suitable match.
Was there some confusion on that point I missed? It was pointed out like at least 4 times in the movie.
@@TangoNevada this was a reply from four years ago...
@@kaylons Thank You.
Your conclusion in comparing David's decision to blind himself and the Hotel Manager's Husband's decision to shoot his wife is intriguing, but I think your essay is missing an important point, which is that David has attempted to make a decision like this before, and it failed (or did it?). Remember that he decided to fake being a sociopath in order to find a mate in the Heartless Woman. It's an important element to who David is, because his decision to transform into a lobster is logical, much like the decision to lie and fake interest in the woman in order to stay as himself. He's caught lying, leaves the hotel and ends up meeting the Short Sighted Woman, where he is brought back to relatively the same question. Does he submit himself to the limits of a relationship, blinding himself in order to have something in common with the woman he clearly loves, or does he try to lie again in order to be selfish, logical, and exist as himself: unmolested. Great video!
So you're saying that really one could draw parallels between those three scenes? In his relationship with the sociopathic woman he's essentially refusing to blind himself for the sake of the relationship?
Not strictly draw a parallel, because the relationship between David and the Heartless Woman isn't even. She doesn't believe he's a sociopath and believes in the necessity of having something in common, and he just wants to survive. When it comes to David and the Short Sighted Woman, they both know they love each other, but struggle with the norms associated with having something in common when she goes blind. Therefore, David's decision is a reflection of whether he can lie in order to survive (not blind himself) or actually commit to a selfless act.
I think you're definitely on to something there. I found the hardest part coming to grips with interpreting this film was fully wrapping my head around the fact that in this world, commonalities are fundamentally vital for a romantic relationship to occur. I think your conclusion is totally valid. Thanks for watching and contributing to the discussion! My favorite part of making videos like this is making connections with people like you who also enjoy interpreting film.
I think you both have valid points. I'm a few years behind watching this film, but that's the beauty of cinema. It is timeless. Just to point out a couple of things, firstly, having something in common is definitely crucial for a romantic union to occur, but more specifically, it is a requirement to live in the city. To have something in common with one's partner is a mechanism for "freedom" in this society. Interestingly enough, most of the pairings were based on physical similarities (e.g. a limp, a lisp, or eyesight in David's case), but his choice to adapt his behavior to pair with the Heartless Woman was always askew because he wasn't acting as his authentic self. There are many glimpses into David's character that show his loyalty. His dog's (brother) death was too overwhelming for him to play it off as if it was nothing. His oversharing about his bisexuality at the interview process and laboured pause when having to choose his sexuality showed his vulnerability and thoughtfulness. He definitely made some hard decisions as he was trying to survive, but his fear of losing Rachel Weisz's character led him back to his truth when we see him tell the woman with the bloody nose the truth about her partner and his mental photograph he takes of his partner at the end before he walks into the bathroom. I do think this film is wonderful though because it shows how fear and deep the relationship conditioning is for human cultures. Thanks for sharing!
Wow. That's deep.
*requests to be turned into a hippo so i can run down singles in the middle of the woods at 20 mph because the mental image is amazing*
My interpretation when I first watched this was completely different. I took this as a critique on the loneliness, detachment, and superficiality that plagues the society we live in. The characters’ lack of emotion and the awkwardness of their dialogue speak to their loss of what makes them human after living in such a cold place for so long. The blueish, darkish filter and the setting used by Yorgos also highlight that coldness. To me, this is a film portraying a dystopian vision of what the world could amount to if we continue down the path we’re currently on. It could reach the point where draconian measures like this need to be put in place to solve this global epidemic of loneliness.
FYI: At the end credits, you just hear the ocean.
Meaning...David chose to be turned into a lobster.
Yup, after the song end, there's only ocean noise
I would be a snow leopard, one of the most solitary animals. That'd show 'em. :P
VeganVorarephile When you said 'That'd show em' I read it as 'That'd snow em' I don't know why lol
There's a theory that the Loner Leader is a bisexual woman who rebelled because the Hotel cancelled the bisexual option for sexual orientation, and she is attracted to both David and Rachel Weiss's character, and acts out of both spite and jealousy.
Also the ending: I get that love is about sacrifice and her blindness and resentment was putting a strain on their relationship, but stabbing yourself in the eyes is too much to ask for from a lover, and I expected to see David booking it down the freeway outside the diner window.
Also why the FUCK didn't they just go to the police or return to society once they fell in love? Turn that bitchy leader in, you're a couple now, you have all the privileges.
Watched The Lobster last night and the question at the end to me...was not whether he blinded himself or not as much as did he abandon her or not. There's the last shot of her sitting at the table waiting for him to return. So, was it just taking him a while, or did he take off?
I auditioned for this movie and I'm now twice as sad that I didn't get it
Its funny to see a new channel that is as good as all of the other populair film review channels (cinema sins, honest trailers) while its still growing. I expect this channel to grow enormously in the next couple of months and ill gladly be a part of it! Keep up the professional work!
That's very kind, thank you! You made my day.
It wouldn't make sense to blind himself . one of them.would have to be able to see to take care of the other .
bryanna cassidy It's not meant to make sense. The entire reason why people partner up in the film is because they have, or seem to have, the same superficial qualities. The fact that they do this, and the fact that part of David feels he must blind himself at the end to stay with the Near-Sighted Woman, not only fits in with this idea but also is a satire of our own society.
But if there would be so to speak a message to the viewers, you would not make a decision within interpretation of Davids, an idea of blinding yourself immediately would put you in position of saying no, so It makes not sense like he mentioned, if the end message would be to have a limp leg like the other character had, that would be an easy decision, or even have nose bleeds it would make sense, nose bleeds aren't comfortable, but it would make up for the sacrifice, so therefore I don't think the message laves a choice for a viewer, its un realistic, then again, in can interpreted other way, as in love is blind, who knows. But at the end they chose to make it david to be blind or not, so they ment to leave a strong opinion, I dont think the ending is ment to be understood like that.
I'd choose to be a tapeworm. I'd never be alone again!
Also you get more ass than a toilet seat. 3 to the one from the 1 to the three ...
@@theblackbaron4119 I LIKE GOOD PUSSY AND I LIKE GOOD TREES
SMAOKE SO MUCH WEED YA WOILDNT BELIEVE
Oh Hecks nah
Zach B I chose a worm because after it rains every other work is outside so all u and ur worm friends are eaten by birds. :D
Excellent analysis and review! Really enjoyed this! I have to say, I don’t think I was ready for this movie when I saw it the first time and left baffled and confused. But, each rewatch reveals a darker, funnier and more brilliant film that I now list among my favorites. It took the excellent The Favourite (which I loved) to make me want to go back and rewatch The Lobster.
Mantis Shrimp, for that thermonuclear explosion of light and beauty experience.
Livin like Larry.
why did this not get more likes
Most underrated comment ever
So we aren't gonna talk about the opening scene?
That's what I keep thinking about.
Does he knee her in her stomach?
I still don't understand it
He’s trying to demonstrate to his partner that he too enjoys violence and lacks sympathy, so that they can be together.
Harry Rushton I think we're talking about other scene
Keep up the good work man. Your explanation reviews are more or less same quality as Nerdwriter and he has a much bigger sub base. You really deserve more subs.
That's so kind! I'm a big fan of Nerdwriter so that means a lot to me! Thanks for watching.
3:53 is one of the funniest things i have heard in cinema
I think the ending that would show "love" is if he doesn't blind himself, and still continues to love her the way she is. That wouldn't be saving himself, it would be accepting their differences and living with it ultimately because they care for each other and want to be together. Sad that the only thing stopping him is these superficial laws that make him think things wouldn't work out if they're not "compatible" by societal standards.
I would pick the Turritopsis dohrnii also known as the immortal jellyfish, live forever and sting stuff.
Until you're eaten by a turtle.
In a Aquarium or in the wild?
Technically all jelly fish are immortal
And spend the rest of your life without a brain or nervous system, not being aware of your own existence apart the need to eat. Sounds like a wonderfull life
@Peatato GAG basically the only things you know of is hunger, pain, light and dark (btw yes that is a real word)
This is one of the funniest films I've watched in years.
Cause it's dark comedy?
I feel I should argue with this statement, but I can't.
Li am Youre so edgy
I didn't laugh a bit
The lack of emotions in the dialogue made me laugh, also animals don't really have emotions , an interesting similarity
I watched this film on a flight, and loved it. So sad it generally went unnoticed by most people.
**** Spoiler ** Ending Theory ****
I think David dies from the knife going too far into his face, connecting to the donkey couple in the beginning. The 2 factions in the movie don't care about personal happiness, only that people fall in line. The woman who shot one of the donkeys didn't pay attention to the possibility that the 2 donkeys were happy. David and the Blind(Near Sighted) Woman were already happy together but felt forced to conform and suffer the consequences for doing do.
So you think he actually wanted to blind himself
Yeah and It wasn't just him doing that. All the characters whether solitary or couples were attempting to conform. His heart tried to break out of the conformity but the world he lived in made the price of breaking out too high. He either had to stab himself or turn into a rabbit. Apparently the Heartless Woman tasted good as a rabbit. Well Lestat once said that "evildoers are easier....and they taste better!"
@@vgernyc he would turn into a lobster rather than a rabbit I thought
@@Jpro2000 In the hotel yeah if he didn't find a spouse. Then there's "the animal no one wants to be" if you break the law.
@@vgernyc how did he break the law
Did anybody else think the plan David secretly discussed involved turning himself into a dog to be a guide for the woman?
Also, the ending sequence showed a lot of construction vehicles through the window which could be interpreted as a metaphor for the superficial construction of the relationship which was built by society...
I did notice the construction vehicles. Was wondering about that. Thanks for mentioning it.
A Timberwolf. Not only did they outlast terrorbirds and saber-toothed cats, but they are incredibly social creatures with a capacity for emotion that I would argue exceeds our own in "the current year."
Timber wolves only evolved at the end of the ice age. It was grey wolves that lived along side dire wolves and outlasted terror birds and sabre tooths
to me the true way he would be able to prove if he loves her or not would be to not blind him self simply because when u truly love someone having everything in common doesn't matter to u its just being with them that does. and also him telling her he's not blind as well would be what would have to happen
MrShizuohewajema But it is a solid rule in the film that you must have a materialistic thing in common to be able to have a relationship
but this film doesn't care for the truth, it makes up a lie so that it becomes shocking and compelling.
that's the point of the film in a way. they don't have that rule. it's not a set in stone rule. the rule is they have to find a partner. to marry in 45 days. so they look for any little materialistic reason they could far in love. so the question of the movie is " is having something in common with someone as important as love out right, or can you be 2 different peopel with different qualities and still be in love, are materialistic things really that important"
Exactly, also he should choose to not blind himself to be able to serve his love and protect her! If they are both suddenly blind, how would they live and survive without any help from other people in that creepy city!
I would choose to be the next evolution of human
a pillar man?
Hicehamer Awaken, my masters!
yea... i wouldnt mind being Homo Novus...
Plot twist: the next evolution is giant ass fighting robots
The next one is... dead
Doesn't the last scene represent something more simple too? "Love is blind". He is hesitant because he understands he will lose his reasoning, he will "fall" like her, and then be again at the mercy of his blindness.
I think you missed the fact that the forest leader didn't blind Rachel Weisz's character, instead her eye sight got fixed. You can see the hints at the end of the movie that she regained her vision, so all that time after her eye surgery (and asking David to blind himself) was a test to see whether he truly loves her. The ending was left somewhat ambiguous, but my guess is that David blinded himself out of love but later found out that the women wasn't blind, so they were not a match anymore and David gets turned into a lobster. So the movie ends with the conclusion that even true love that passes the test may not succeed because of what your partner had to endure. But a conventional marriage like the hotel managers cannot pass the test. Either way we are f'cked.
Wow. Totally missed that!!!
There are too many confirmations she is blind like the doctor saying he blinded her, her stabbing the maid instead, leader admitting she blinded her, etc.
At first I was sceptical that one could explain "The Lobster". Because I've watched the press conference in Cannes that Lanthimos & his cast gave in 2015, where he explicitly said that the film seeks to pose questions, rather than answer any. But you've done a pretty good job with the analysis here. Congratulations!
(And don't bother about the negative comments - this is not a movie for the masses; the majority of people will just never get why this film is important.)
Best wishes,
Ralitza
This movie is made for idiots who think they are better than the 'majority of people'.
are u a new channel? cuz im shocked u dont have more subscribers
I felt the same way, exilently edited quality content yet not nearly as many subscribers as I would expect
I'd like to be a crow as I absolutely love crows, avispado's of the animal kingdom, I'd be a natural. Also, David has a very interesting moustache...
Johnny K. Me too.
A24 films always make me feel nauseous when eating even if weeks have passed
its the fine attention to detail in the end. There's a reason why the director made the scene long with just her in the end. She looks at the waiter before he pours the glass and even looks up at his face and then trails off to when he leaves. Then looks out at the window and looks at the bathroom hall where David left, waiting for him to comeback, which he doesn't and either: A) knew she was lying or was suspect of her and ran away or B) thought she was blind but couldn't commit like the man with the revolver and wife and ran away. (I used to think it was David blinding himself but couldn't find his way back, but I was not watching the scenes closely and paid attention to the director's attention to detail.
Blind people still do that though. Heightened senses
if it's any animal, I would be a t-rex
The Lytch OMG! YES!
The Lytch i would be a lobster because i would be immortal
no sex for you (or friends for that matter)
BrianShaggy074 where's the fun in being immortal?
Lobsters are immortal, yes, but as they get older they find it harder to shed there shell, meaning they die if they cant. Also from oradinary getting killed by injuries. So I would be a tardigrade as they are literally invincible and live forever and since I was a human I would be as smart as a human making me near to a perfect lifeform.
what if he didn't blind himself because sharing qualities didn't matter to him kinda stating love is real beyond superficiality? idk lol
I thought long and hard about that possibility, and I don't believe it's the case because the characters in this world don't function like you and I do. They are parody versions of real people. It took me a long time to grasp that.
What if he didnt do it because he knew that blind leading blind is dumb
I'd choose a blue whale, because no one wants to fuck with a blue whale.
BunsofLiberty Oh shit you're right! I mean duck! Duck! Is it too late?
iPaleo
Too late, mang.
iPaleo Tell that to Japan
I would be a human lololol
only one thing to say WOAW , honestly never heard of the film just the plot seems amazing and the tone you describe just blows me away , I have to see this film 20 times . It's so deep yet keep itself funny in a dry way this is just amazing
I think that in the end, every relatioship is condemned to pass trough the things they had in common at first, and for the relationship to grow, someone has to make sacrifices (in this case David blinding himself)
Wow. Nice!!!
Yeah, if your partner asks you to blind yourself for them...run.
This movie stuck with me for several days invoking thoughts like great films do. The soundtrack and violins, the texture and vibration during the scenes give it warmth and I imagined the director and I were nodding in agreement to his choices, catching myself laughing inappropriately while feeling embarrassed like watching the clockwork orange for the first time. In our days it is refreshing, a film like this especially in a world of plagiarized marvel horseshit, we deserved it..
same
Great essay though I personally thought the final scene was rather a question of the worth of commonalities in relationships on which most relationships are founded and in showing this, was relaying to the audience how ridiculous and perplexing it is that we base relationships solely on commonalities and in effect there is no love without them.
While I don't necessarily agree, I think due to the ambiguity of the film, your interpretation is just as valid. I honestly wish I had found more interviews of the director (if they exist) talking about exactly what the film was about because he only spoke about it in very broad themes in the interviews I watched. I should probably watch Dogtooth to get a better sense of his thought process.
Yeah, I wish he had more to say too, but filmmakers like to be like magicians sometimes. Expose too much and it ruins the illusion which I somewhat agree with now that a large portion of media now is meant to do the thinking for you. I've seen Dogtooth and though I think you should watch it, I don't think it'll help much other than illuminate the director's proclivity for, broadly speaking, subversion. He's kind of like a comedian to me, just trying to point out the threads and "flaws" of society.
Yeah I don't mind it being up for interpretation. I get why filmmakers do that and it makes for interesting films. That said I'll be tackling "Knight of Cups" in a future video... wish me luck :O . I'll definitely check out Dogtooth at some point. Can't wait to see what Lanthimos will bring to the table next. I didn't really like The Lobster on a first viewing but the more I thought about it the more it grew on me.
Film Herald Yeah, definitely have to wish you luck on that film. Film is almost literally a layer cake. Never thought it would grow on me, but now I'm curious what you come up with and just the thought has me wondering what it would be like if I only listened or only watched it with no sound. Also, though not really a film that will gather views if analysed, I recommend you watch Entertainment. It's... interesting to say the least. Also, like to hear your opinion on Neon Demon, though I think the whole movie needs a close analysis and not just the ending.
Ooh, good suggestions. I've been wanting to see Neon Demon for a while but I kind of forgot it existed. Will watch Entertainment as well. Man John C. Reilly sure gets around, doesn't he?
A dodo bird cause there all dead just like my insides
Damn, you just cut my wrists with your edgyness
"Crawling in my crawl"
That’s so edgy it’s funny
Brilliantly said. I watched the interview with Colin and Rachel, neither of them seemed to truly understand the movie. They understood the characters all too well: they could not see beyond it. Can't disagree with anything here. It reminds me of when I was single. It parallels the trials and tribulations of the dating world all too well and what is expected of us. As you said, even when we rebel, we end up forming our own rules, but being oblivious, we are unable to rebel against our self imposed rules...
Idk if anybody else noticed this, but I felt like every single character was selfish, determined to do anything for their own benefits, and i think all of their actions pretty much proves that
I would chose to be a Fox, because I don't give a fox.
Stop.
6:13 Lmao i did'nt notice the hair of the pony first time i saw it!!😂😂
fuckkk, I see. thanks for mentioning :))
It makes me laugh when people say the “He’s her lobster” quote from friends. And all I can think about is a man gauging his eyes out.
Not all people who are single think their lives are less meaningful, I have something to live for now, I have someone I love more than anything, he saved my life, he made me happy to live, he makes me want to see the next day, he is everything to me.
No no no! The ending is kept open because You are David. That's what the film is telling you. It's your choice, some choices are shown in the film.
I think.
At the end, you are the 1 who have to choose whether to sacrifice your significant thing for keeping the relationship or fake or leave alone forever or something else. It's what you choose. That's why the ending is kept open.
At the end, when David is preparing to poke his eyes out - I was yelling at my TV about how awful the movie was... and I could only look through a tiny crack between the fingers of my hand (which I was holding up to block the view). My whole family agreed that we hated the movie, but we spent a good bit of the next day talking about it. Oh.. and we all had nightmares. Awesome, just awesome!
Does anybody have any thoughts on what the relevance of the intro scene is? the scene where the woman drives into the country and shoots the donkey.
I always just assumed the donkey was someone the woman either had a previous relationship with or really disliked while he/she was human. Whether or not that's still considered "murder" in this society, I don't know, but I suspect it isn't. I never really put more thought into it than that.
From what I've read. It's just one of those things meant to take on new meaning after watching the movie. The identity of the characters they portray are intended to be rather trivial. Though a few viewers have suggested the "cruel woman" may have been turned into the donkey.
maybe to show that they're sociopaths idk it was really confusing
Donkey could be the one left another like David's position at the beginning of the movie, who left and ruined the relationship, love she had (how could you trace down the right donkey by the way?) One of those what love makes someone do, don'ts situations (I hope my grammar catches what I mean, I might go study English, return and edit here) David forgets his partner easily right? Do everybody pretend in the outside world? Slight chances, what is unexpected happens. I don't know. Here has far more thoughts than director's, crews' interviews, thank you owner and everybody
Just thinking out-loud here...
I would so love to know what the status is (single or coupled) of all the folks who responded and said how much they loved this film!
And along those same lines ~ did viewing this film depress or give hope &/or solace to those folks who are single or those who are half of a couple?
So many questions...
(or do I just have way too much time on my hands this rainy lazy Sunday afternoon I watched this film?!!)
P.S.
I am a very Happily Married Gay Bloke myself, and so friggin’ grateful to have found my beloved, as I spent a great deal of my life searching to find the Ying to my Yang, the Garfunkel to my Simon, and/or the Lennon to my McCartney!
(Or as the minister said; the Ricky to my Lucy!)
Happy to report I found him, as I was only a few years away from Lobster-hood!
Am I the only one who thought he was gonna turn him slef into a guide dog to help her move with her blindness because he loved her that much lol …
lol interesting idea
Nominated by the Academy Award for best original screenplay.
I'd choose a goldfish because then I could keep forgetting that I saw this film.
I would've liked a more concrete ending in reconciliation for being such an awkward film to watch as Lanthimos' films always are
People who think relationships are just social constructs just haven't been in a good relationship. I was in this group after several failed relationships. And then I met the one. The person who I truly felt a connection to. Someone I know I would be willing to die for.
Now I am not currently catholic. I was raised catholic (so I know a lot about the teachings) but as of right now I don't know what I believe. But in the catholic faith, some people are called by god to be single. Not everyone is called to marriage.
So if you feel like you don't need to be in a relationship, by all means you could be right. But don't be so committed to that idea that you actively run form anyone you feel a connection with. Be open to the idea of a relationship without feeling incomplete without one.
I think relationships stem from jealousy. People are too jealous to ever be comfortable with a partner being unfaithful. Why do people cheat on each other all the time? Very often its because they want variety, or grow tired of their partner alone. And yet those same people can't stand their partner cheating, which is complete hypocrisy. It's like we weren't built for monogamy, but our growth in intelligence and emotional complexity has made us unable to accept a partner cheating. Relationships are definitely a social construct, and I can't say if love is or isn't real, but many people seem to refuse to acknowledge the reason relationships exist to begin with.
Great play on the “lobsters mate for life trope” that was proven wrong
Unless it's purely about rebelling against society's rules and expectations, there is no real reason for the loner society to exist.
Any two people who don't want to be in a relationship can say that they're together, get a certificate, and live separate lives as they please.
Limey Figdet they still have to go everywhere with another person though from what I understood. You can only use the “my partners in the store/bathroom” excuse for so long.
I would choose a tardigrade because they live for over 700 years, can survive an atomic bomb, and are always able to reproduce.
they can be squished while hydrated. They susceptible to physical damage.
Don’t think they’re technically an animal are they?
Shambles Ramskull I don't know and I wrote this comment 4 years ago
Shambles Ramskull Im high on caffeine don't question my logic
Shambles Ramskull 👀 can I interest you in a discord?
The Lobster is one of the best satires committed to film, it draws a very blurred line between being amusing and depressing but I found it to be quite relatable.
Really great video man. Thanks for the analysis and commentary.