5 ESSENTIAL Grunge Guitar Tips Every Player Should Know!
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Want to play better grungy alternative guitar? I got you! Here’s 5 tips that I think will help you channel your inner Billy Corgan and play some awesome parts.
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Stop apologizing for not doing things right. Part of what’s good about you is that you just give it a go. Music isn’t a sport. And playing what other people already did perfectly is a waste of time. You have a ton of good ideas and enthusiasm. That’s what counts.
Ahh thanks so much mate! 🙌
The moment that changed my life forever was the time I tried tuning to drop D without realizing I was already tuned to open G. I had in fact tuned the 6th string to C and only realized once I began playing. That tuning makes playing the music I want to play feel as natural water flowing downstream or current going to ground. (1stD) (2ndB) (3rdG) (4thD) (5thG) (6thC) The best tuning there is.
Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks mate!
About 4 months ago I saw your channel and this... just amazing. Your videos helped me in choosing pedals and pedalboards for shoegaze staff, all kinds of grunge stuff, etc. Even an inexpensive shoegaze board. just fucking cool. thank you for your work
Thanks so much bud! 🙌🙌
In the past month this has become my fav channel, keep up the great work!!
Thanks so much! 🤘
easily my favorite guitar channel these days. you speak my language
corgan and mascis were my main influences in playing lead, love mascis' medolies and corgans controlled chaos
Cool tips ! That lead at the end cuts like a knife indeed !
This is a cool channel, really interesting, thanks mate
Thanks bud!
I need to get more technical too for my lead stuff! Rock on man!
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Great video brother.
Thanks mate.
My favourite ‘grunge-type modulation’ pedal is the Keeley Dyno-My-Roto. The price is right, and it has three modes: a tri-chorus that would give you lovely underwater, seasick vibes; a rotary speaker simulator, that will give you those “Black Hole Sun” tones; and finally, a very flexible flanger that can do very subtle all the way through windtunnel hell. I also use a TC Corona mini chorus, as I can load it with different TonePrints depending on my needs, which kind of makes it like 50 different chorus pedals.
I’ll check these out mate!
Aw hell yeah my pedal man growing fr, I remember you having like 1k subs. Keep making the good content.
Thanks so much mata!
Alice in Chains is basically Eb tuning across the board with some drop C#/Db like 'Them Bones'. Jerry refers to as "Alice" tuning. I do find distortion a bit grating on Standard tuning and Drop D, Eb or D Standard seems to balance that out to my ear. Cool video, thanks 👍
It's a very common trick to play the 3rd chord as a major chord. Also making the 4 chord a minor chord is common, especially playing a few bars as a major chord then going to a minor chord on the last bar, I call it The Beatles trick
I love the Beatles trick. One of my fav things to do in a progression
I used to have a Pearl Octaver and used it as a distortion unit when i grew sick of the sounds i was getting. As it was analog, the tracking was all over the place and sounded great.
In the same band i did that with id have added Phaser (I think i had an old Yamaha one) to crunchy tones and played a bit like Lifeson from Rush, which made the drummer play more like Jimmy Chamberlain.
That sounds really cool. Weird how those imperfections often make stuff better!
Ohhhh nice that’s really cool!
IIRC, Guns & Roses also made use of E flat Standard. Obviously not Grunge, but previous to this video, they were the first I ever heard of doing that.
As for your threat to put your guitar through a Leslie on a future video...yes, please!
Ahh no way really? Haha will have a look at it!
I have the same problem with lead parts and solos where I have a good riff and a pretty good melody but I just actually have no clue what kind of solo like stuff to put over it. The only thing I could really recommend is trying to learn some of your favorite solos then attempt to figure out why you like it and as such add that insight into your lead lines and solos. Great Video though man!
I know what you mean haha! There’s a song by my band called ‘Parasite’ and I played the lead soloey bit on that and I think that’s the first time I’ve ever written one that sounded ‘professional’ if you get me (even though it’s super simple) but yeah I reckon learning some solos is probably a great shout. I think I just end up falling back on the pentatonic shapes which is why it maybe sounds clunky.
Most people don't. Let me help. You should be able to sing your solo out unless you play in animals are leaders or some other musicians musicians band. Don't worry about how many notes you're playing, instead, you want a riff. I like to play the song and sing random lines it'll I find one I like, then I learn that line on guitar. This makes your solos feel like they were written for the song instead of just playing fast notes in the right key.
Soundgarden uses a rotovibe live for black hole sun. You can use a chorus pedal, it really doesn't matter, but it's not like univibe and rotary pedals are still rare these days.
Ahhh that makes sense!
That Blackhole Sun riff sounded like a Primus cover. it’s cool though 😎
There's a common theory/urban myth that has several videos & forum posts about is that Eb tuning sounds particularly great on Strats.
Ha that dude to scale length?
@@thesethingsmakenoises mostly just being a Strat. Plus, Hendrix, Clapton, and others in the 60s & 70s popularized it.
Listen to Eruption and some other early EVH stuff for a slow phase pedal. Also, learning some of his solos might help with your lead direction. I know he’s not exactly grunge, but so what?
Love your approach to your videos!
That’s a great shout actually!
Maybe you could try TrueFire for your lead lines. There are a lot of courses there. As long as you know your way around the fretboard, you could use single string lines or even two string lines that will make you fly over the fretboard, though I'm still not there myself... :)
I like "Brad Carlton's Guitar Lab: Speed, Precision & Endurance Vol. 1", even though you have to organize your practice yourself, you're not just following along. Then there's Dweezil Zappa course called Fretboard Freedom, which takes a little bit different approach, but I like it. His Phrase Generators is also good, but it's more oriented towards building licks with 3-1-3 notes arpeggios on three strings at a time, and stuff like that.
Ahhh thanks so much, I’ll check them out!
Check out the video interview "guitar moves, josh homme" he's a very talented songwriter and outstanding guitar player and he has a very particular why of doing solos, he explains he changed some notes from the mighty minor pentatonic and it sounds like a different thing! It's very inspiring and easy to try but hard to master, and most importantly it's really fun to play like that and experiment, give it a chance, it's a great little lesson
Thanks very much, I’ll check it out!!
The tip 2 you said was the wrong one sounded GREAT!!!
Cheers bud!
The phase shifter effect seems really similar to what you'd get from a wah pedal. It seems like that sound was synonymous with 90s grunge between jerry cantrell's wah and billy corgan's phaser.
Yeah 100%!
Eb standard has been my main tuning for a long time (The Smashing Pumpkins and Failure), but after Shiner and The Life And Times became my favorite bands, I went to D standard, and I like it. But I like to mix it up a bit. DADGAD is cool. I also have this weird tuning that's Eb-G-A#-F-G-D. That's just Yvette Young's tuning, only one whole step down from her FACgae.
I have also tried a tuning that the band Chavez has used. E standard, but you drop the low E to A. Later they also used to drop the E only to C, and that's my main tuning on one of my guitars. :)
All that stuff makes me play differently and makes me think about melody within riffs, instead of having me think about chords and chord progressions. For some reason, though, even in the weird tunings, variants of the i-IV-iv-V progressions is what I keep landing on haha! But at least the harmonic content of the chords is more weird and that makes it sound just a little bit different.
I think I’m gonna try FACGAE for sure!!
Definitely right about making playing differently etc.
Motörhead and Kiss also played most of their stuff in Eb standard tuning. But then again, grunge took a lot of inspiration from 70’s rock and metal, so it’s not that much of a shock.
Ahh that does make a lot of sense
Thin Lizzy too.
I also want to see a video of you running a guitar through the Leslie speaker
Will have a look at it mate!
Always helpful. Thank you.
Cheers bud!
Stratocasters just sound better in E#. 25.5 scale length guitars with 10s do in general imo. I really liked your video, dude.
Rock on!
I love drop C# haha
Try a dan electro rocky road pedal for the Leslie sound. Awesome pedal.
Ahhh that’s a great shout. Will check it out.
has the Pawn Shop Mustang popped up on the channel before? I feel like this is the first time we’re seeing it, but i could just be being brainless.
Side note but i’m starting to get jealous of that collection.
It’s not actually mine, it’s the other guitarist in my band. I thought it made sense for this video as it was a grunge one haha! It’s a great guitar
So I had to teach black hole sun to a bunch of kids over the years, and the way to get the correct tuning is basically doing drop D, but every note is tuned sharp, roughly about 3/4s of the way to the next note.
Thanks so much! I wonder why that happened haha?
@@thesethingsmakenoises If I had to guess, I think maybe they discovered that "tuning" by accident and deliberately chose to record the song that way
@@nikclashYeah probably just fitted the vocal really well and then it had to stick.
Wow, Heart Shaped Box and Where is my Mind? Both classics if you ask me... Smashing Pumpkins I like but not as much as you do 😅. Well as for technical advice I am the worst person to ask...maybe try another genre? ZZ-Top Tres Hombres or Eliminator I like...
As for gear the Sire S3 (HSS) I seriously like and gets solid reviews and with Ibanez AZES31/40 as Squier Classic Vibe series seems good value for money in the same-ish price bracket. A Tele looks cooler but an HSS strat is more versatile and better ergonomics...
Really enjoyed your video!
Oh and for being right or wrong...such thing doesn't really exist. Keith Richards uses a Telecaster "Country instrument" for Rock 'n Roll and Bluesy tunes.😊
All truths here mate!
I just realised that the chord progression for “Where Is My Mind” is also pretty close to the chord progression for “Interstate Love Song”.
That just means STP was a horrible band
Thanks....always interesting videos with helpful and inspiring content...! Have a look and listen at Chevelle....US band......superb stuff and they use a lot of drop tunings...drop B in particular. Worth a look and a listen......won't be regretted! Just subbed to the channel...
We need that Leslie video. Please.
I’ll have a go when I get back from tour
@@thesethingsmakenoises oh you are so rock and roll dahhhhrling. 😘
Are those lace sensor pickups in the Strat? Do you recommend the pickups?
Yeah mate. They’re so good!
is it gold or Blue-Silver-Red ? 250 vs 500k pots ?
@@thesethingsmakenoises
That phaser trick is a van halen approach to solos
Ahh yes!!
Honestly, I recently added a phaser to my rig and it sounds amazing. Who gives a shit if it sounds dated? As long as it sounds good I'm happy
Yeah fair play mate!
Audition for SP?
Honestly check out this guys band, they are so fucking good and should be getting pushed more. They are keeping the dying dgrunge movement alive, they are so good live too, OCTOBERDRIFT !!!!
best tip for grunge players is to get better at guitar
Punk too
Ain’t nobody got time fodat
at 25.5", flat should be considered "standard" tuning
Interesting!
Maybe for the feeling on your strings, but a E is a E, a Eb is an Eb on all instuments…
isn’t “today” also in eb?
It’s in eb but apparently the guitar was tuned to standard to play it.
I thought most of Nirvana was E flat too?
Ahh really? Makes sense to be fair!
Never, ever, EVER, ditch the HOG. EVER. :)
Haha don’t worry mate! Never will!
That octave lead tone was baddass, actually.
I don't know if you want to go down this rabbit hole but, if you tune down about half of a half step it's supposed to be like a weird satanic tuning that was banned by the catholic church. Pantera uses this tuning.
Ahh do you mean 432hz? The producer of our first album swears by it haha
nahhhh to much Smashing Pumpkins shit in this video!