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He didn't even draw it. And his father would have you believe that limbs can be stretched-out like Stretch Armstrong. This book is as fake as the holocust.
1:37 "extraordinay heroic figure"? Not really. In fact, Art Spiegelman was feeling guilty for portraying his father in such an unfavorable light. I believe he said in the book that survivors are not necessary just good people or just bad people.
@@s0ngf0rx -That’s the thing. Suffering doesn’t martyr anyone or make anyone into a better person; it just makes them suffer. I wouldn’t call his father as portrayed in the book a flawed hero but just a flawed protagonist. You know-human...
@@cthulhutheendless1587 he's very skillful like Odysseus though, he works at different occupations and escapes imminent death several times. the book stresses that the survivors are lucky, but it's not just that.
@@cthulhutheendless1587 He said that and it's partly true, but according to his father's account, Vladek was the only male survivor from the group he came to Auschwitz with because his Capo hid him because Vladek was teaching him English.
There have been so many books on the subject of Holocaust yet we are not tired of it. IMO it is the fact that we get retold this same story each time from a different character's perspective that keeps us interested.
Spiegelman unfortunately the only voice in comics for Jewish subject-matter, a reality he's quite happy with. Any vision of Jewish life that isn't a memorial for the Holocaust gets suppressed.
I think the original Superman by Siegel and Shuster was a wink to the American Jewish experience: He wears glasses as Clark Kent and people can't tell he's really an alien, much as some Americans can't tell if some people are Jewish.
Literally not true. There are a bunch of Jewish comic writers and artists who express their identities in different ways through comics. Jewish writers built this medium and continue to be a large driving force within it.
I have to agree. Describing Vladek as "heroic", when Art went out of his way not to frame his father as a hero, because he wanted to avoid the Christian notion of survivor-as-martyr is a pretty seriius misread.
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Art Spiegelman is a genius
He didn't even draw it. And his father would have you believe that limbs can be stretched-out like Stretch Armstrong. This book is as fake as the holocust.
"Fabricated Reality," good name. Perfectly describes the holocaust
@@suprebaddeathmachine ok Nazi POS
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@@jdarst100 lol, pathetic. Not an argument, moron.
1:37 "extraordinay heroic figure"? Not really. In fact, Art Spiegelman was feeling guilty for portraying his father in such an unfavorable light. I believe he said in the book that survivors are not necessary just good people or just bad people.
Exactly. He said who survived was “random” in the book.
he listed off odysseus in the same breath so he's probably going for the more greek myth kind of hero who can suffer from great flaws too.
@@s0ngf0rx -That’s the thing. Suffering doesn’t martyr anyone or make anyone into a better person; it just makes them suffer. I wouldn’t call his father as portrayed in the book a flawed hero but just a flawed protagonist. You know-human...
@@cthulhutheendless1587 he's very skillful like Odysseus though, he works at different occupations and escapes imminent death several times. the book stresses that the survivors are lucky, but it's not just that.
@@cthulhutheendless1587 He said that and it's partly true, but according to his father's account, Vladek was the only male survivor from the group he came to Auschwitz with because his Capo hid him because Vladek was teaching him English.
Great interview!
Spiegelman is a genius and a great man.
There have been so many books on the subject of Holocaust yet we are not tired of it. IMO it is the fact that we get retold this same story each time from a different character's perspective that keeps us interested.
"Character" means a person in a book. It doesn't necessarily mean it is fictional.
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what’s going on right now proves that 👏
Spiegelman unfortunately the only voice in comics for Jewish subject-matter, a reality he's quite happy with. Any vision of Jewish life that isn't a memorial for the Holocaust gets suppressed.
steve conn Harvey Pekar who wrote American Splendor covers Jewish American experience and pretty much just life in his books
Many comic artists and writers are Jewish. A very famous graphic novel that deals with Jewish subject matter is A Contract With God by Will Eisner.
I think the original Superman by Siegel and Shuster was a wink to the American Jewish experience: He wears glasses as Clark Kent and people can't tell he's really an alien, much as some Americans can't tell if some people are Jewish.
Precisely, thank you for saying this.
Literally not true. There are a bunch of Jewish comic writers and artists who express their identities in different ways through comics. Jewish writers built this medium and continue to be a large driving force within it.
Lol real ,,AMARICAN" masterpiece
Good interview, but SPOILERS. Don't show to students before reading.
interviewer didn't get the book
his views may be simplistic, but to say that he didn't get it seems a bit insulting.
He ist in General too Hollywood Embossed
I have to agree. Describing Vladek as "heroic", when Art went out of his way not to frame his father as a hero, because he wanted to avoid the Christian notion of survivor-as-martyr is a pretty seriius misread.