Adelaide O-Bahn Route No.501 Driving View City to Walkleys Road Bus Stop
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- Adelaide O-Bahn No.501 Driving View City to Walkleys Road Bus Stop.
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This is so smart. It has all the benefits of a tram, and is also compatible with the rest of the road system.
As someone that lives in Adelaide, I never realised how weird this type of bus system is to the rest of the world.
Unique yes, weird no
@@julianreymus1721 It's not unique, there's plenty of other guided busways elsewhere.
I still don't understand how this is any better than just a simple busway. It seems pretty gimmicky.
@@TheOwenMajor complete right of way
@@bestrto What's stopping busways from having complete right of way?
And with busways you have the option of much cheaper level crossings with priorirty signaling
Yeah, did that journey in 2007 just to experience it, and yeah, it was worth it.
Ideal for an old city with sprawling new suburbs. The buses use existing city centre roads but get rapid transit to the outer districts.
What the f-
It’s like train tracks for buses
A gadgetbahn.
Combining buses with track rails as Right-of-way category A is a genius method to increase the performance of this transit.
@lwf51 'Cos trams are fancy
lwf51 sydney's suburban light rail sees extremely heavy use with capacity that buses couldn't match. Also, energy efficiency. Melbourne it's more an issue of imagine every street filled with diesel buses. Then, for them, tram is the defacto mode of transit so using buses outside the cbd will mean customers have to change modes. You're right though, the o-bahn is very flexible like an optimised bus highway where different routes can branch out from the main thoroughfare efficiently connecting more serviceable areas with a hub.
Actually, the idea for this predates the Adelaide O-Bahn by several decades. The Montreal Metro runs on pneumatic, and even before that, the same system was used in Paris. The Adelaide O-Bahn took that idea and applied it to busses. The metro version of this system is rather costly since trains still do carry steel wheels which are used when blowout happen, but the lack of screeching noises is rather nice.
Jonathan Langlois that’s not totally true, like the first commentator said, the technique came from Germany, the trams that are pneumatic also in Venice are based on this. U also can see that on the German name of it.
The metro with tires was indeed a few years prior there, but first of all the still got normal rail wheels and tires till this day in Paris for the crossing, just modern system don’t got them anymore, like in Turin.
So they are not the same, also how the two different vehicles get their power is different, aswell as the main reason: the purpose and the idea are different ones, not just the technique that is also different in the rail material. The purpose is for the metro to transport many people in a fast time, in big cities. The idea was to got a fast acceleration by a better grip. The idea of the O-Bus/O-Bahn was a cheap alternative to a rail system, for smaller cities, instead of building a whole trans system and a road. So it’s indeed made for connecting suburbs in a fast and cheap way. But one of the most important points was, that the people don’t have to change their vehicle. It’s about a higher flexibility without forcing the people to walk from the bus station into the metro, that’s why the combined in Essen the tram, which is also going under the earth with the O-Bahn. But the guiding wheels are very expensive and don’t last soo long, because of this they were removing the most bus rails, after 35 years. Only one is left, where they don’t get the permission to build a tram which is also going underground and where the busses are sometimes so narrow that humans won’t make it with a highspeed
I don't see how this is any better than a busway, why not just make the road a little wider and just have the driver steer normally?
It seems to me like a government gimmick.
Are you a bus or a train?
O-bahn: *yes*
Just a bus, it means is the bus is created of this to use the busway line. No traffic jams in the place there. Looks like express busway guess like this is!
高速（走行）区間
2:10〜
This was oddly calming
Because “this is Adelaide”
Never heard or seen such a thing. How interesting. Hell, I had to look up where this was. Nice work Australia!
Swainer80 I literally live in the place where it is. It’s so unique and I go on it every week. I love it
This is so cool!!! I've never seen anything like this before. 👍👍
名古屋のみて、おすすめからきましたー。楽しかったです❗️
This would be the perfect solution for long distance trucking between Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Townsville etc
Or putting trailers on a train.
友人が現地で乗ったそうで羨ましいです。本人は世界最速のガイドウェイバスとは知らなかったようで教えたら驚いてました。
I've never seen such a bus or means of transport wow
I have - I live in Cambridge
@@hesterclapp9717 I have too, - I live in Adelaide
As Adelaide grows I feel that at some point it will become practical to upgrade the o-bahn to a underground and above ground metro system which covers the north eastern suburbs, cbd and port but at Adelaides current size it’s not needed but will be practical sometime in the next 10 years or so.
Now this is what I call an express bus!
ガイドレール区間への進入時、たいして減速しないですごい。
Im on the O-Bahn while watching this lol
まさかの都営新宿線のCMがｗｗ
This is a such briliant system! Far more flexible than some normal trams or rail, yet with the high capacity of them. Why isnt it used more? Shit, I'd take something like this anytime in Warsaw.
この速度とアトラクション感がすごいワクワクするw
ゴーカートで運転したい笑
Needs to be re-filmed, it now starts with a new tunnel out of the city under the parklands and the stretch of road that was under construction has dedicated bus lanes now.
Is this the only city with a dedicated and isolated bus route[s)?
一昨年行ったので懐かしかった
Just out of curiosity (I've never seen these before) once you are on the guided pathway part, does the driver have to continue steering the bus or does the guide keep the bus on track?
On kerb-guided buses small guide wheels attached to the bus engage vertical kerbs on either side of the guideway.
These guide wheels push the steering mechanism of the bus, keeping it centralised on the track.
Away from the guideway, the bus is steered in the normal way.
guide wheels make more sense, my initial thought was how can a curb work, it's going to scrape the side of the tire or the tire will roll over it
@@AUNZRAILFAN I just wanted to say thanks for the info and the video. I would otherwise not know that these systems existed!
日本だとバスじゃなくても入る輩が出てきそう(＾ω＾)
それをTIK TOKにあげてそう
老害とかね
プ◯リウスとかね
それで逆走された日には目も当てられない😱
コーンポタージュ• もうそれ隠しになってねぇ(((
到着時間遅れるわけにはいかない空港行きのバスなんかは日本でもこのシステム導入すればいいのに
全国にこれが増えれば、今は路面電車扱いでも速度アップももっと認めてくれるでしょうね。
シンガポールや香港のように空港の規模を拡張することが出来れば、空港内での移動手段としてこのシステムの需要に期待したいものです。
専用軌道を作る余地がない、あるいは専用軌道を設けるほどの需要が見込めないのでは？
Akaniji Akaniji 日本土地狭いからね
日本では鉄道扱い(海外は分からないが)なので運転手の免許等がメンドくさいのも有るかと...
so is the driver driving the bus or do they just control the speed
カーブでしっかりカントついているんですね。
これなら速くても安心感がある。
The best O-bahn buses where the 0305 Mercedes Benz miss them they where best buses for there time from the 1980's.
Very advanced for a mid 1970s design. They were improved in small ways up to their demise in 1987.
We had O305 buses in Sydney too. They were absolutely magnificent. If it wasn’t for the lack of disability access you could put them back on the road tomorrow and they’d still do well.
Still a great piece of infrastructure.
@railfan aunz -
Why do I have the feeling this was a railway in the past ?
Greetings from Germany
It was not built on an old disused rail corridor.
The strip of land the O-Bahn currently occupies is especially purchased to build the O-bahn track.
Here's a brief history of the North Eastern busway " commonly know as the O-Bahn "
Adelaide's O-Bahn was introduced in 1986 to service the city's rapidly expanding north-eastern suburbs, replacing an earlier plan for a tramway extension. The O-Bahn provides specially built track, combining elements of both bus and rail systems. Adelaide's track is 12 kilometres (7.5 mi) long and includes three interchanges at Klemzig, Paradise and Tea Tree Plaza. Interchanges allow buses to enter and exit the busway and to continue on suburban routes, avoiding the need for passengers to transfer to another bus to continue their journey beyound the O-Bahn bus network.
What a beauty! I wish there would be such a fast transport system in Israel. It's like railroad tracks.
ハンドル要らずのガイドウェイバスここも名古屋みたいに鉄道扱いですかね。大曽根ー中志段味（なかしだみ）ゆとりーとラインは６０制限です。
11:41 信号が赤から青に変わる前に先に右折車を通すのいいと思う
日本もこうすればいいのになって思う交差点結構あるよね
道路広いからできるのでは？日本だと二車線から右折レーンが出てくる的なのが多いから難しい
This would be perfect here in Boston on the MBTA but then again I love to dream Lol
Light rail isn't as flexible as buses, and it would be more expensive to construct, but it is cheaper to operate when you have large numbers of people to move to and from specific places. These busways are cost-effective here now, and if, at a later date, the volume increases significantly, they can be modified for rail use.
2:06 一般道からの侵入がスムース過ぎて濡れる
ゴムタイヤだからかな？加速の時に札幌市営地下鉄の音に感じたw
Not sure of foreign language comments - the whole point of the O-Bahn is the ability of the bus to get to its end point destination quickly via the guided rail and then revert to normal road bus. For. Lot of passengers this means they stay on the same vehicle instead of getting off cf light rail. The shame in Adelaide is they can’t make their minds up - the city has a random mix of teams, trains, buses and O’Bahn. ps. despite the sound track from the outside the O’Bahn is way quieter than any rail or tram system
with most of the 224's now only operating as feeders mawson lakes to elizabeth they need this service all the time to town.not everyone up that way wants main north rd and an inferior southlink operated 222 service.
Can't remember when (15 - 20 years ago), plans / idea's floated about extending the O'Bahn to Elizabeth via Golden Grove and proposed route it would follow.
新たな鉄道の敷設が困難な都市部はバスとして運用し、都市と都市を結ぶ郊外は専用のガイドウェイで渋滞なく到着できる、というとても柔軟な発想で造られているシステムだと感じました。
日本では唯一の愛知県名古屋市の「ゆとりーとライン」と同じシステムですね。
I live in the USA but I would love to live in this town.
jblucio3177 fyi Adelaide is a state capital of Australia
Live in your fucking 0bama land.
You're one president off my friend lol
Adelaide is the arsehole of Australia. It's shit.
Perth and Melbourne.
前後のバスとの間隔は適正にとられてるんでしょうかね？対向のバスがやたら多いのも驚きです。
Дякую за прогулянку на метробусі.) Чітко, клас=)
軌道周辺の人口が疎らで広大な安い土地が有り、鉄道敷設程でなく、数他の路線系統を纏めて速達性を早めるには有効だけど、日本国内で有効な交通手段は無いな！
北海道ほど広いと敷設コストが高くなり一般道利用の方が経営は成り立つしね。
Are you steering with the steering wheel when you get on the rail?
こちら側のバス専用道の入り口のみ､一般道と交差するためにトンネルがあるところは､神奈川県の国道1号線の藤沢バイパスの入り口の下りのみ､旧道と交差するためにトンネルがあるのと似ていますね。
De lujo e increíble, saludos desde la ciudad de México.
昨日乗ったけどまぁ速度早いですよね。でも私は日本でガイドウェイバスなるものに乗ったことがないのですが、日本と比べるとやっぱり速いのでしょうか？
So it's a bus version of a tram light rail?
Yes
Noisy but interesting. Have to wonder what the pluses versus the minuses compare to light rail. You'd think they'd use longer buses or the articulated buses to be more cost effective.
they do use articulated buses - mostly in peak times.
@@SuperMattb17 cool. If I get there, I'm going to ride them.
Main plus is that once the guided rail path is completed the bus can then merge with normal traffic to take commuters to their final destination without them having to change vehicles.
名古屋とかに似てるのありませんでしたっけ？
Excelente vídeo!!! Muito legal o sistema O-Bahn!!! E ainda, poder ver a pulsante e linda cidade que é Adelaide!!! :)
Tienen algún sistema en las ruedas, ó es pura práctica del conductor?? saludos!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Bahn_Busway. History of the ‘O’ bahn. Yes the busses using the double tracked ‘freeways’ do have small guide wheels which, when they stray into the low concrete sides. then guide the bus back into the middle if they stray.
Developed by Daimler Benz for the South Australian government back in the 1970"s if my memory serves me right. Brilliant system.
I see heaps of comments saying Adelaide wasn't the first and other countries had it before. The name O-Bahn itself should give people a clue that it's not an Aussie invention..
It comes from the land of the sausage shops.
I know those special tracks are for busses only but why are they designed that way? Is the middle part to drain water?
To prevent cars (with a smaller tyre width) from running on it. They will fall into the middle (after hitting the sump buster).
Do these ride on Rails, too? steering not needed?
It's weird... they make you wear a seatbelt in a car , and fine you heavily if you don't , yet you can ride high speed beasts like this , and trains, yet only seatbelt is on the driver.
Wow how does he keep the wheels from hitting the curb?
There are guide wheels that push on the sides of the track and control steering.
Is this a ZF ecomat transmission?
Thanks for this - the tram line thingy is neat.
But I don't understand it.
Why don't they just built two lane roads for buses only instead of all the expense of special roadways and modifying the buses?
Because it keeps the cars off it. The tracks are wide enough for the buses but if a car tries to enter, it hits the sump buster and will fall between the tracks since the wheel width is smaller than the track.
@@jaycee330 No, just built regular roads for buses only.
And patrol it with video cameras that take pictures of cars license plates that enter illegally...they work.
It would cost a HECK of a lot less then these track things.
A two lane road, (even a one lane road with passing bays) in this location would require MASSIVE amounts of annual maintenance due to it being on or near a river floodplain. Altering an existing road by expanding it enough to take two lanes in each direction would've been politically unacceptable due to the only road candidates in the area being bordered by some people that were/are some of the greatest contributors to the local political partys.
Fantastisch.. Danke
this is very cool, I've never seen anything like this, well we have 1 in Jakarta, but nothing close to this level. Specially when you can ride at 80 km/h with a lot of smooth turn. I wonder how did they manage not to hit the curve wall ? Was there like a mechanism which can auto steer the wheel ?
There is a guide bar to control the steering.
Are used to be 100 km/h in the 1980s and 90s and early 2000s
What a ride!
വളരെ നന്നായിട്ടുണ്ട് വളരെ നല്ല സർവീസ് കേരള
どういう仕組みでステアリング動くの？
まさかちゃんと操作してる？
ガイドウェイバスの速さに驚きました。日本にもガイドウェイバスも普及できれば、日本お得意の定時運行が出来そう。このバスが普及していないからバスの遅延が結構ひどいこともあります。オーバーンはバス停の間隔が長いのですが、日本の場合はもう少しバス停の間隔が短くてもいいと思います。
日本のバス停ほど間隔の短い距離のバスなんてないと思う
日本だったら空港アクセス以外に需要なさそう。たった数百メートルの為にたくさんお金を使うことは無駄だし、運賃も高くなるかもしれない。やるなら名古屋の基幹バスぐらいでいいと思う。
Thank you i get it
日本だと愛知県名古屋市の「ゆとりーとライン」のみですが、乗ってみてくださいね！
This is a nice concept, but what happens if a bus has a mechanical problem, or a tyre blows? There is no way for the bus to clear the 'track', so the entire line is now useless?
All other busses are temporarily diverted to the nearest road (which is all ready overcrowded) & the operating company has a double headed repair/tow truck that has the appropriate guide wheels & can get to the spot.
this shit is amazing :O smart but so simple
What’s if on bus Brakes down on this track?
Whole lot of buses going behind stuck or should I f***d?
They have a recovery vehicle I was on the bus and a bus broke down ahead of us and it took five minutes for the recovery vehicle to come and remove it
Have any non bus drivers taken a wrong turn and driven along it?
Yes and when they do, the whole thing has to shut down for hours till a crane pulls the car out. O-Bahn = Worthless.
@lwf51 Sorry but must respectfully disagree. The original plan was for a tram and that may have cost more, but could carry far more passengers. O-Ban is only suited to shorter routes because the further you travel from the city, the more passengers will need to use it. So many people were being left standing at the OG Road station by O-Bahn buses that were already packed to the gills, that they had to start sending 3 or 4 buses out nose to tail to take the load. One tram could have done the same job.
There is a reason why S.A. is now upgrading its train lines and building more tram lines. That reason is O-Bahn just can't take the load.
lwf51 trains aren’t lunacy when ridership is high enough and can act as additional capacity in bogota BRT ridership is so high they have to upgrade to rail
ゆとりーとライン「かなり恐怖を感じた」
これ日本だとバス運転するための免許と鉄道の免許両方いるんだっけか
水没皇子
なんか苗穂でそんなバスがあった筈
D○Vかな？
はるそうチャンネル これはDMVより、どちらかというと名古屋のゆとりーとラインの方が近い
大大大大
でもそれ公道は走らないんだよね?
はるそうチャンネル
そうそうDM○
日本の愛知県名古屋市守山区から此の動画を見て居ます。わたしの住む街と比べ牧歌的に思えます。Covid-19パニックが落ち着いて来たら訪れたいものです。
Adelaide has a lot of German ancestry, so it's fitting to have this 1970s German innovation. Germans are very clever pragmatic people.
すげーこんなんあるんだな！行くとしたら乗ってみたい
Why this guided bus way needs for . Is that lack of steering control sense of bus drivers so that they need to guided like this ?
I like it
早いし本数もそこそこあってよさそうですね
ポートライナー等のAGT式に似てますね！しかも速い！
It looks quite dangerous. How do they follow the track without rail guide?
@lwf51 Oh! Thanks for your kind explanation.
電車には詳しくないけど
電車で鉄の車輪かなって思ったけど
すれ違うのは普通のバスみたいなやつで
普通のタイヤだから
浜松町から羽田に行くモノレール的なヤツ？
てか､レール的なやつの上だと
電車みたく､ハンドル切らないで良いやつなのかな？
詳しい人居たら教えてください…
Scania buses?
これってハンドル操作はしてるんですか？
それともいわゆる手ばなし状態？
トマト たしか手放し状態ですよ。ガイドに沿って勝手にハンドルが切れて来ます
こんな路 人がハンドル操作するのは無理です ガイドローラーがハンドルをコントロールしている (ミニ四駆のローラーみたいなの)
Amazing 👍🏻
That looks ridiculously dangerous.
Why?
Très sympa comme ligne de bus rapide
Is the bus guided by the rails, or does the driver steer the bus?
Paul Whitear it is guided along the rails, driver only controls the speed
Basically a train
Awesome!
Interesting...
A bus roller-coaster? What kind of sorcery is this?
速すぎて逆に恐い(笑)
I liked the older mercedes O305 they used they were built for the track and were smoother and faster the newer scania are bumpy but they have air conditioning my local bus from the western suburbs cross over to the obahn route 110 then turns 502 to go on the track
地名忘れて
オーストラリア アルフォート バス
って検索してようやく見つけた
Need this in melbourne
I hear that alot from visitors from other states that either take a ride to cross off their bucket list or friends saying to take a ride, it's still both a local and overseas tourist attraction after all these years, and alot of them say we need this in (from what every city they are from) they can't believe something like this hasn't been built.
It has the lowest overall running cost per passenger kilometre compared to road only bus, light rail tram and heavy trunked rail train public transport operations in Adelaide.
Eh, go and buy yourself another tram, you know you want to! :-)
How are tey guided?
Are those buses electric or do they run on fuel? If fuel I’ll bet it’s expensive to run a fleet of busses.
A lot of the bus' run on gas (lpg)
Not more expensive to drive the same buses in stop start traffic.
They're fuel powered, though the promotional material stated that they can be electric (trolleybus) as well.
Having the main sections covered by trolley wires and the "branches" having their own power would in theory be a great idea, and should mean less weight if the energy requirements were small. If you chose to power them with batteries, they also wouldn't need to be charged rapidly, which should increase their life, and you get the regenerative braking benefits too throughout.
Автобусы по рельсам ходят?
what is the point of the ‘rails’? Wouldn’t it just be simpler to have roads?
the point of the rails is to provide bus only lanes that no other kind of vehicle can enter
@@대격변이퍽내가바로 Because the tracks are wider than car tyre width.