Yes it hurts. But they tell you nothing on how they determine what grade. It would be nice on a “ cleaned “ coin they would point out what they used to determined it was cleaned. Especially this coin the LCS guy thought it was a good coin and he has 40+ years. Oh well. Thanks for the comment
Yes that one hurt a little had others check it no one can see that it was cleaned. So I sent email to PGC. Doubt I will get explanation but never hurts to try. Thanks
Still a beautiful Coin.. still has great value!! 👍🏽 Cleaned could mean, someone dipped it and they see residue from that.. Could Crack it and send to NGC..., but it still has value my friend.. Great video!
Yes you are correct it is a beautiful coin and you were getting my real emotions at the time. It really hurt at first but as time passes and you have time to reflect you come around. But I do wish they would put down what they saw. I took it to some experts and they do not see it. Thank you for the encouraging words.
@Morgan's Silver Treasure Oh yes sir, I get it.. As soon as I seen the back that said, Genuine, un-gradable.. I knew disappointment was coming, and I could feel it in my own gut!.. However, the fact is, It's a gorgeous coin, and they gave it UNC Details, and it still holds value. Obviously not what you want, or hoped for, but... PCGS can make mistakes, in my opinion. Graders can be "wrong". Also, I wonder, can you send it in for "restoration", or is that for environmental damage and whatnot, idk. Just a thought. Have a good day, and keep collecting my friend! (Also, Teee, Steve, and Oregon sent me a few weeks back, just FYI) Great people referring great people!
Great video! I hate that the 85 CC got a details grade. However, it is still a great investment coin and quite attractive. We've all been there before. Try not to let it bother you too much. Looking forward to the next video!
Yes I had an LCS owner with over 40 years look at it. He thought a 63 with a possibility of 64. I had a collector with a lot of years of sending them in thought a 64. Nobody thought cleaned. I will think about cracking it out. Thanks for the input.
Those were nice coins you sent in - sorry about the one - if it's a big enough profit to do it, I'd look at breaking it out and sending it to NGC - after you talk to your LCS for his thoughts. I see this is a week old so you've probably already figured it out. I'll go catch up on your videos and see! Thank you for sharing - I really enjoy your videos!
Everybody that has seen the coin cannot figure out why it came back cleaned. And they all are experienced dealers and collectors. So yes I am thinking about breaking it out and resubmit to NGC. But also I have been told that it does not lower the price that much because it is a semi key date CC and the low grades are still worth a good amount. It will be a while before I do anything.
HI Sac Town Aimee! Yes, nice grading reveal! And, good advice to crack it out, if it can get a better grade from NGC! 😎 As you know, grading can be tricky!
I guess a almost uncirculated coin that has the smallest amount of circulation signs, but is lower than choice will be 50-52. AU 58 would have to be superb gem almost uncirculated, which is not going to happen very often
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Those are some nice looking Morgans! My first time viewing your channel, so I hope you don't mind a little constructive criticism. You need to pick up the pace a tad. I had to put this video on 2X to bring it up to tolerable speed. Good luck!
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Hi Robert Scagnelli! Yes, it's very difficult to buy raw coins and have them graded! I've done it, but not so much anymore! Unfortunately there are multiple ways to clean a coin, so it can be hard to tell at times! 😎
That was fun, if a little painful to watch.. I have to give you a ton of credit for having the cahonnes to reveal the grades live, knowing it could be exhilaration or disappointment.. Obviously the “cleaned” coin was a gut punch but you did get two MS 63’s..!! Keep on stackin..!!
Well I didn't see that coming. That sure didn't look cleaned to me 🤔. But I'm not an expert. Hopefully your LCS can shed a little light on it. I'd be interested in what they have to say. The other 2 Morgan's did great and the trade dollar got a decent grade as well. Keep your chin up Morgan. We believe in you. 👍💯 Super congrats to Garrett on two wins in a row 🎉🎊.
Sorry about the Cleaned one but you can see the micro abrasions all over the obverse. It is hard to tell in many cases but I saw them as soon as you flipped.
All was good except the cleaned coin. Everybody who has seen it cannot believe it is cleaned. But really does not hurt value to much. It is a semi key date CC
Yes it really hurt at first but as time passed it got better. It is a beautiful coin and still holds value. As I have said and others they should put down what they saw because nobody else sees it. Thank you.
Heart break on the 1885. I think these grading companies are a bit harsh when saying so many coins are cleaned. All it takes is for someone to rub a coin once and PCGS gives it a thumbs down. But still an outstanding coin.
Raw coins are a rip off, I'm convinced many dealers knowingly sell problem coins raw, but pricing as if they are straight graded coins. If i buy raw coins, I beat the hell out of the dealer and I'm happy to walk away if I can't get a deal.
A reputable dealer I do not think sale problem coins without saying something knowingly. I bought the coins I had graded from a dealer. I took the coins in afterwards and he refunded the money from what he sold to me for and what they graded at. I get what you are saying that raw coins should be priced less because you are taking the risk.
@@morganssilvertreasure You have a good dealer for sure since he treated you so well, obviously has integrity. That said, he may just be incompetent or doesn't understand grading as much as he should.
Random picker, is it going off last video? Or this one? I watch first, then leave comment.. I have never bought any coins, just my collection, plus what I inherited... the bronze Hawaii dollar, any value? Or just commemorative? If no value, I want to clean it, with Brasso. Very nice coins. Sorry about the one they Claimed was cleaned. 👍✌
The Radom comment picker is from whichever video I pick. It always has been the last video. On the coin I have seen them from $10-$20 so the cleaning is up to you.
Hi Yhenne Ambon! Right! It's usually so that they can remove the natural toning that takes place over years of time, because they like their coins shinny! 😎Many of them just simply don't know how valuable these coins can be. For example an 1883-CC Morgan vs. an 1893-CC Morgan look very similar, but hold very different values, due to their rarity.
If it's pcgs be prepared for a few cleaned, questionable colors, unfortunately they have to keep populations low on certain coins, whilst ngc does it too not nearly as much
@@morganssilvertreasure aye I've had several "cleaned " coins come back from pcgs I've cracked out and sent to ngc and gotten straight grades on , like I said it's about population control and keeping values on certain coins extremely high
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Rigged 😂😂😂 congratulations Garrett…to bad on the grades you didn’t expect 🥲 kinda like a pucker power of 10 wondering the grade. Good thing I don’t work at PCGS I’d put in a Pop up Jack in the Box clown 🤡 in those partial boxes 🤣🤣🤣
I would get a second opinion on the one they said was clean like your LCS or a coin show..congratulations Garrett😀
Oh I am going to take it to the LCS. Thanks JT
Nice except for that one that came back cleaned. Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed watching like always. I'm still behind on my videos. Have A Great Day.
The one that came back cleaned no one can see it even “experts” I wish they would say what they saw to give it that status. Anyway thanks Armando
Have to catch after post work nights. 👍
I feel bad for you that’s a beautiful coin I would love to hear how they determined it was cleaned!
Yes it hurts. But they tell you nothing on how they determine what grade. It would be nice on a “ cleaned “ coin they would point out what they used to determined it was cleaned. Especially this coin the LCS guy thought it was a good coin and he has 40+ years. Oh well. Thanks for the comment
Great unboxing. Very nice 👍🙂
Thank you
Fun to see your genuine reactions 🙂I enjoyed this thanks! You'll get better at it, stay positive!
Yes that one hurt a little had others check it no one can see that it was cleaned. So I sent email to PGC. Doubt I will get explanation but never hurts to try. Thanks
Still a beautiful Coin.. still has great value!! 👍🏽
Cleaned could mean, someone dipped it and they see residue from that..
Could Crack it and send to NGC..., but it still has value my friend..
Great video!
Yes you are correct it is a beautiful coin and you were getting my real emotions at the time. It really hurt at first but as time passes and you have time to reflect you come around. But I do wish they would put down what they saw. I took it to some experts and they do not see it. Thank you for the encouraging words.
@Morgan's Silver Treasure
Oh yes sir, I get it..
As soon as I seen the back that said, Genuine, un-gradable.. I knew disappointment was coming, and I could feel it in my own gut!..
However, the fact is, It's a gorgeous coin, and they gave it UNC Details, and it still holds value.
Obviously not what you want, or hoped for, but...
PCGS can make mistakes, in my opinion. Graders can be "wrong".
Also, I wonder, can you send it in for "restoration", or is that for environmental damage and whatnot, idk. Just a thought.
Have a good day, and keep collecting my friend!
(Also, Teee, Steve, and Oregon sent me a few weeks back, just FYI)
Great people referring great people!
Great video! I hate that the 85 CC got a details grade. However, it is still a great investment coin and quite attractive. We've all been there before. Try not to let it bother you too much. Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it
Great luck, Garrett! That's awesome.
Yes as I said we have had multiple double winners.
The ‘cleaned’ coin would be a great candidate for a crack out and resubmit but definitely have someone check it out first
Yes I had an LCS owner with over 40 years look at it. He thought a 63 with a possibility of 64. I had a collector with a lot of years of sending them in thought a 64. Nobody thought cleaned. I will think about cracking it out. Thanks for the input.
First time to the channel wish it was under better circumstances. I've been right where you're at my friend.
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I'm sorry MST. I enjoyed seeing the coins, but understand the disappointment.
Thank you. I appreciate you understanding
The anticipation is killing me LOL you did a good job!
It got to me also I maybe sending some more in soon.
Those were nice coins you sent in - sorry about the one - if it's a big enough profit to do it, I'd look at breaking it out and sending it to NGC - after you talk to your LCS for his thoughts. I see this is a week old so you've probably already figured it out. I'll go catch up on your videos and see! Thank you for sharing - I really enjoy your videos!
Everybody that has seen the coin cannot figure out why it came back cleaned. And they all are experienced dealers and collectors. So yes I am thinking about breaking it out and resubmit to NGC. But also I have been told that it does not lower the price that much because it is a semi key date CC and the low grades are still worth a good amount. It will be a while before I do anything.
HI Sac Town Aimee! Yes, nice grading reveal! And, good advice to crack it out, if it can get a better grade from NGC! 😎 As you know, grading can be tricky!
I guess a almost uncirculated coin that has the smallest amount of circulation signs, but is lower than choice will be 50-52. AU 58 would have to be superb gem almost uncirculated, which is not going to happen very often
Thanks
Thanks
New sub. I enjoy your videos. Thank you
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sorry miss some of your videos but summer i spend most of my time working in my garden. To bad about the cleaned coin.
Yes that one hurt. Still CFO not see it.
Those are some nice looking Morgans! My first time viewing your channel, so I hope you don't mind a little constructive criticism. You need to pick up the pace a tad. I had to put this video on 2X to bring it up to tolerable speed. Good luck!
No problem Ii welcome constructive criticism. As you can tell I am new to this and not a public speaker. But I do speak from the heart and do not try and BS you. Thanks for the feedback
@@morganssilvertreasure ~ Be a HUGE mistake for anyone to try & BS the YT community on coins. HUGE.
Tuff break on the cleaned Morgan. Look pretty good to me. Congrats to the winner! Thank you!
Yes it did look good and I had dealers with a lot of experience look at them. No that it was cleaned.
Hi Robert Scagnelli! Yes, it's very difficult to buy raw coins and have them graded! I've done it, but not so much anymore! Unfortunately there are multiple ways to clean a coin, so it can be hard to tell at times! 😎
Wow, I didn't see any evidence that one coin was cleaned either!
I guess I need to do some more studying myself.
Congrats Garrett!
Before I sent it I had my LCS look at it and he has over 40 years and thought it was a solid 63 could be 64.
Great coins man sorry about the grade though.
Thank you
That was fun, if a little painful to watch.. I have to give you a ton of credit for having the cahonnes to reveal the grades live, knowing it could be exhilaration or disappointment.. Obviously the “cleaned” coin was a gut punch but you did get two MS 63’s..!! Keep on stackin..!!
Thank you and yes it was a gut punch that cost me.
Nice coins, cleaned or otherwise!
Yes they are still do not see the 85 as cleaned.
Congrats Garrett!
Good luck next time.
Bummer on the cleaned coin man but still a nice group of coins none the less 👍
Thank you
Well I didn't see that coming. That sure didn't look cleaned to me 🤔. But I'm not an expert. Hopefully your LCS can shed a little light on it. I'd be interested in what they have to say. The other 2 Morgan's did great and the trade dollar got a decent grade as well. Keep your chin up Morgan. We believe in you. 👍💯 Super congrats to Garrett on two wins in a row 🎉🎊.
Yes it will be interesting to see what the LCS says that is where I bought that. Anyway thanks for the encouragement.
@@morganssilvertreasure take it back and tell them this is what it came back as tell ‘em you want your money back
If a coin is cleaned, they don't put a grade on it? I just saw cleaned unc.
You are correct they do not grade it. Other than but original coin. It would help some if they put a grade on it.
Sorry about the Cleaned one but you can see the micro abrasions all over the obverse. It is hard to tell in many cases but I saw them as soon as you flipped.
Wow you have great eyesight. Thank you
great unboxing
All was good except the cleaned coin. Everybody who has seen it cannot believe it is cleaned. But really does not hurt value to much. It is a semi key date CC
Good video man I like it.
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Sad to see that cc come back cleaned
Yes it really hurt at first but as time passed it got better. It is a beautiful coin and still holds value. As I have said and others they should put down what they saw because nobody else sees it. Thank you.
Bad luck on the cleaned coin.
Thank you. Worst part is I had a few long time dealers look at it before submitting they all thought it was a 63 to 64 no one said cleaned.
Heart break on the 1885. I think these grading companies are a bit harsh when saying so many coins are cleaned. All it takes is for someone to rub a coin once and PCGS gives it a thumbs down. But still an outstanding coin.
Thank you. As I have said and others I wish they would put down what they say. Nobody can see a cleaned coin. I really appreciate the kind words.
What are some signs to look for to determine if a coin been cleaned?
Harsh cleaning will show scratches. What they are looking for is cleaning will remove the original luster
I've heard of people resubmitting coins to get a different grade but it will cost more money. Sorry that's bad luck
Yes some people will but as you pointed out it cost each time.
Nice coins
Thank you
I'll take it. if you don't want it.
Yes it is a very nice coin and I sold it and the person got a great coin. Thanks for the comment
Raw coins are a rip off, I'm convinced many dealers knowingly sell problem coins raw, but pricing as if they are straight graded coins. If i buy raw coins, I beat the hell out of the dealer and I'm happy to walk away if I can't get a deal.
A reputable dealer I do not think sale problem coins without saying something knowingly. I bought the coins I had graded from a dealer. I took the coins in afterwards and he refunded the money from what he sold to me for and what they graded at. I get what you are saying that raw coins should be priced less because you are taking the risk.
@@morganssilvertreasure You have a good dealer for sure since he treated you so well, obviously has integrity. That said, he may just be incompetent or doesn't understand grading as much as he should.
Random picker, is it going off last video? Or this one? I watch first, then leave comment..
I have never bought any coins, just my collection, plus what I inherited... the bronze Hawaii dollar, any value? Or just commemorative? If no value, I want to clean it, with Brasso. Very nice coins. Sorry about the one they
Claimed was cleaned. 👍✌
The Radom comment picker is from whichever video I pick. It always has been the last video. On the coin I have seen them from $10-$20 so the cleaning is up to you.
Why would someone clean an uncirculated coin?
I do no know it would be nice if they would write something out to let you know what they see.
Hi Yhenne Ambon! Right! It's usually so that they can remove the natural toning that takes place over years of time, because they like their coins shinny! 😎Many of them just simply don't know how valuable these coins can be. For example an 1883-CC Morgan vs. an 1893-CC Morgan look very similar, but hold very different values, due to their rarity.
Sorry I left out most of the time they just do not know better
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Sometimes it’s just not worth getting coins graded.
I think I agree with you
If it's pcgs be prepared for a few cleaned, questionable colors, unfortunately they have to keep populations low on certain coins, whilst ngc does it too not nearly as much
No one thought this was cleaned. May have to break it out and send to NGC. Thanks
@@morganssilvertreasure aye I've had several "cleaned " coins come back from pcgs I've cracked out and sent to ngc and gotten straight grades on , like I said it's about population control and keeping values on certain coins extremely high
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@@morganssilvertreasure OK BUT CANT BE THERE @4 COMPANY
Rigged 😂😂😂 congratulations Garrett…to bad on the grades you didn’t expect 🥲 kinda like a pucker power of 10 wondering the grade. Good thing I don’t work at PCGS I’d put in a Pop up Jack in the Box clown 🤡 in those partial boxes 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like the right thing to do.