I actually forgot about collaboration, but it's not what im sad about, lowkey im more sad about that one of my favourite horror games got exposed, like fr why do everyone turn out to be malicious, evil, despicable, bad, not good and other synonyms 😭
In this world, anybody can be all of the evilness adjectives, like you said. Don't trust the first stranger, nor the first guy that had an amazing behavior, because they may hide things you wouldn't want to know. But remember, it is not because anybody may not be an example, that you shouldn't be too !
You don't have to worry, because everything that is described in the document is either irrelevant now (was solved 3-4 years ago) or overly exaggerated. The author of the doc is a person who cannot let go of things that happened a long time ago and likes to play "victim"
@@sasharollingsky I don't have 𝕏, so I can't read the document. Is there any other link where I can see it ? I would like to know what is "overexaggerated" like you say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Also, even tho it happened 3-4 years ago, those bad things actually occured..
Hi just wanted to clear things up for everyone. Firstly Vince did not steal anything from anyone. Vince owns the DD IP so he cannot steal fangames as they are from his intellectual property. Secondly the Piggy DLC is not being cancelled and thirdly this doc contains a lot of misinformation and was created by someone with an extreme hatred toward Vince who made this mainly out of spite. Vince hasn't done any bad things and all these issues have been resolved years ago with Vince apologising for any mistakes he has made. I hope this helped clear things up
@NeryJasso-rx9ul I've been in the DD community for years and have also known Tails personally. I've seen Vince in his blocking phases but also seen him change over time and get better. Tails has been non stop about this for years and keeps bringing up old and unnecessary drama over and over again. We know Vince isn't perfect but he's not bad by any means. Tails just wants attention
@NeryJasso-rx9ul Thing about it is it's outdated, most of the stuff on it happened years ago and Vince has changed alot since. All the big things in the doc have been resolved especially the YanDev thing which Vince apologised to his community for and quickly took the DLc off Steam.
Less than a week in and I'm scratching off 'Cancelling big potential update' off my Piggy 2025 bingo card. Jokes aside, LSPLASH and MiniToon should make a Doors x Piggy collab if neither are collabing with Monsters and Mortals. I'd imagine if the collab is well-received in the Roblox community, some other games would want to try to collab with Piggy too. But until we get something official, we got Doors maps in Build Mode or Piggy-based entities can be made using the Admin Panel in Doors.
Ngl I don't play doors any but I would love an collab like that since some of the piggy players and doors players still hate on each other's games some times from the award thing that happened a few months back
minitoon wouldnt want to be involved with something like this... but everything in the document happened and was widely known public information before they started their collaboration. if it wasnt for the fact that GE has apologised or taken accountability in other ways for their wrong doings and moved on like everyone else has, i doubt they would have even accepted a collaboration. moral of the story: outdated information coming back in an attempt to cancel dark deception in the big '25 is stupid
1. This stuff was not ''widely known public information'' up until very recently. Barely anyone knew about this and those that did, only knew very little. The sole purpose of all this was to document what had happened and to spread this information as far as possible. 2. Vince might've apologized, but he never unblocked the people that he deemed where engaging in ''cancel culture'' and to this day continues to block and silence anyone who doesn't fit in or whatever. He's still the same as he was a few years ago. 3. Once again, the goal is not to cancel Vince. Tails stated himself.
It was already quite a while since the collab was announced. I wasnt really looking forward to it or anything. They would most likely cancel the collaboration with monsters & mortals. Due to Doors being planned to collab with monsters & mortals aswell, perhaps Minitoon and LSplash could look into collabing with each other to compensate for the monsters & mortals collab
I still think the collaboration with Doors should still happen. Piggy releases a new chapter that being a hotel. And the bot being like Seek but with the insolence
That is a wonderful idea. We already know Seek has a couple hundred eyes on it, what’ll one orange eye do? But, speaking of skins, I could see a Rush skin also being possible, with it being the first entity encountered in the teaser and Floor 2 release date trailer. And if we go by Main Antagonists, Figure and the Grumble are possible, although the latter would need to be shrunk to just to go through normal rooms.
0:43 I haven’t reviewed the document yet, so I can’t say whether they are guilty or innocent (although, as in most cases, they are probably guilty). However, if they ARE guilty, it’s likely that Minitoon won’t collaborate with them. Let’s remember a similar situation happened with PghLFilms: once their controversy arose, Minitoon unfollowed him on Twitter (although he didn’t remove their name from the credits or anything similar, like the Spidella animations, probably because it was something irreversible at that point).
@MatteWolf22 spoiler alert, it is worded very well to make Vince (glowstick ceo) look terrible. Some things are true some things are not and some things are exaggerated to fit a narrative. I would recommend getting all the facts straight before jumping to conclusions.
At least we get the doors collab. Also, the collab was gonna be an update on the dark deception side and not the piggy side so some of us can’t even play it
It was essentially adding Piggy characters and presumably a map to Monsters and Mortals, a Dark Deception game where many people fight to the death getting soul shards. Other Han that, I don’t know what else happens in the game, or what the collabs between other games mean.
@@Minitoonfan99 Half of the allegations are fake, or at least exaggerated to fit his narrative, and the other half are things Vince already apologised for, like the Yandev dlc, and he sorted out the drama with his programmer, Nikson. Realistically, the worst Vince's done was being a child on twitter and blocking people he disagrees with, however he seems to have changed since. The entire document was made out of spite for Vince, with many of doc's points being exaggerated, or outright false. On top of that, the author of that doc tries to use emotional manipulation to help his case, and make Vince look as bad as possible. Obviously most people don't know that (including you), because it's easier to only listen to one side of the argument, and spread hate and misinformation without listening to the other side. As a content creator, you should know better than to spread such allegations without even making sure they're real. Do better
@@Minitoonfan99 Very much so. Half of the document is things that have already been resolved peacefully by all parties involved, and the other half is straight up misinformation and lies. Me and many friends have known this Tails guy personally and he’s a vindictive manchild that is not to be trusted
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I actually forgot about collaboration, but it's not what im sad about, lowkey im more sad about that one of my favourite horror games got exposed, like fr why do everyone turn out to be malicious, evil, despicable, bad, not good and other synonyms 😭
In this world, anybody can be all of the evilness adjectives, like you said. Don't trust the first stranger, nor the first guy that had an amazing behavior, because they may hide things you wouldn't want to know.
But remember, it is not because anybody may not be an example, that you shouldn't be too !
You don't have to worry, because everything that is described in the document is either irrelevant now (was solved 3-4 years ago) or overly exaggerated.
The author of the doc is a person who cannot let go of things that happened a long time ago and likes to play "victim"
@@sasharollingsky I don't have 𝕏, so I can't read the document. Is there any other link where I can see it ? I would like to know what is "overexaggerated" like you say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Also, even tho it happened 3-4 years ago, those bad things actually occured..
Hi just wanted to clear things up for everyone. Firstly Vince did not steal anything from anyone. Vince owns the DD IP so he cannot steal fangames as they are from his intellectual property. Secondly the Piggy DLC is not being cancelled and thirdly this doc contains a lot of misinformation and was created by someone with an extreme hatred toward Vince who made this mainly out of spite. Vince hasn't done any bad things and all these issues have been resolved years ago with Vince apologising for any mistakes he has made. I hope this helped clear things up
Where did u hear this and could u send some proof?
@NeryJasso-rx9ul I've been in the DD community for years and have also known Tails personally. I've seen Vince in his blocking phases but also seen him change over time and get better. Tails has been non stop about this for years and keeps bringing up old and unnecessary drama over and over again. We know Vince isn't perfect but he's not bad by any means. Tails just wants attention
@@joyjoylucky1909ok thanks for clarifying. But what about that whole document they made?
@NeryJasso-rx9ul Thing about it is it's outdated, most of the stuff on it happened years ago and Vince has changed alot since. All the big things in the doc have been resolved especially the YanDev thing which Vince apologised to his community for and quickly took the DLc off Steam.
@@joyjoylucky1909 ok thanks again.
Less than a week in and I'm scratching off 'Cancelling big potential update' off my Piggy 2025 bingo card.
Jokes aside, LSPLASH and MiniToon should make a Doors x Piggy collab if neither are collabing with Monsters and Mortals.
I'd imagine if the collab is well-received in the Roblox community, some other games would want to try to collab with Piggy too.
But until we get something official, we got Doors maps in Build Mode or Piggy-based entities can be made using the Admin Panel in Doors.
Ngl I don't play doors any but I would love an collab like that since some of the piggy players and doors players still hate on each other's games some times from the award thing that happened a few months back
Woah i have a piggy bingo card too
That would make the fans of piggy mad because they. Don’t know perfection
minitoon wouldnt want to be involved with something like this... but everything in the document happened and was widely known public information before they started their collaboration. if it wasnt for the fact that GE has apologised or taken accountability in other ways for their wrong doings and moved on like everyone else has, i doubt they would have even accepted a collaboration.
moral of the story: outdated information coming back in an attempt to cancel dark deception in the big '25 is stupid
even if it is outdated, smth like this resurfacing is pretty harmful to be involved with and if he wasnt aware before, he'd be aware now
1. This stuff was not ''widely known public information'' up until very recently. Barely anyone knew about this and those that did, only knew very little. The sole purpose of all this was to document what had happened and to spread this information as far as possible.
2. Vince might've apologized, but he never unblocked the people that he deemed where engaging in ''cancel culture'' and to this day continues to block and silence anyone who doesn't fit in or whatever. He's still the same as he was a few years ago.
3. Once again, the goal is not to cancel Vince. Tails stated himself.
Personally, Doors and Piggy should collaborate. Since it's on the same platform and they won't have to deal with drama (at the start of the year smh.)
Fr! Or even the mimic x piggy it would've been the horror duo fr
@@Legolikeslegos123 yes! I love the mimic so much
They’ve also both been in a similar position in popularity
This DLC Will be a Doors X Piggy collab.
It was already quite a while since the collab was announced. I wasnt really looking forward to it or anything. They would most likely cancel the collaboration with monsters & mortals. Due to Doors being planned to collab with monsters & mortals aswell, perhaps Minitoon and LSplash could look into collabing with each other to compensate for the monsters & mortals collab
This ain’t releasing before GTA 6 😭
Ok ms.p milker
This is fake news he was planning this in the discord server
@@Yummyhampter???
It’s not fake news, stop blatantly lying to everyone
@@Minitoonfan99 I really hate how ppl try to lie Saying, Oh It'S FaKe NeWs!1!1.. I really do.. it's just very annoying.
Yeah I never really expected to get that collab anyway. Certainly gonna look into what’s going on with DD though.
Bro what, its not cancalled at all where the heck did you get this info from.
Most of this video is just misinfomation
i stated it'll be likely cancelled as a result of the drama, learn to actually listen to shit before going straight to calling everything misinfo
It’s sad how these respected people mostly Roblox UA-camrs and some game creators turn out to be really messed up individuals
So uh, Chapter 5 of Dark Deception is seemingly never coming out now. Nothings changed!
this collab has fr been in the works since 2021 only for it to now potentially be cancelled.
i find this kind of drama annoying and make me wanna leave piggy fandom
I still think the collaboration with Doors should still happen. Piggy releases a new chapter that being a hotel. And the bot being like Seek but with the insolence
That is a wonderful idea. We already know Seek has a couple hundred eyes on it, what’ll one orange eye do?
But, speaking of skins, I could see a Rush skin also being possible, with it being the first entity encountered in the teaser and Floor 2 release date trailer.
And if we go by Main Antagonists, Figure and the Grumble are possible, although the latter would need to be shrunk to just to go through normal rooms.
@Terr1ble_C0medy_K1ng yeah that sounds cool!
0:43 I haven’t reviewed the document yet, so I can’t say whether they are guilty or innocent (although, as in most cases, they are probably guilty).
However, if they ARE guilty, it’s likely that Minitoon won’t collaborate with them. Let’s remember a similar situation happened with PghLFilms: once their controversy arose, Minitoon unfollowed him on Twitter (although he didn’t remove their name from the credits or anything similar, like the Spidella animations, probably because it was something irreversible at that point).
@MatteWolf22 spoiler alert, it is worded very well to make Vince (glowstick ceo) look terrible. Some things are true some things are not and some things are exaggerated to fit a narrative. I would recommend getting all the facts straight before jumping to conclusions.
I told my friend and he was like:
ur funny! What collab? and I had to explain to him and he still thinks its not a thing
And that just leaves 2 games, piggy and doors so why not collab with eachother?
didn’t this first get teased in 2022/2023?
yep
At least we get the doors collab. Also, the collab was gonna be an update on the dark deception side and not the piggy side so some of us can’t even play it
worst start to 2025 for piggy....
Me who was looking forward towards this collab:
It ain't cancelled till someone says it is
It almost definitely will be
@@Minitoonfan99 This didn't age too well
I hate this drama
Nah 2025 just started but is drama first toxic day 💀
The dark deception will be forever curse by Big JoyJoy and Malak.
Idc abt collabs honestly i just dont want to get the same timer system for season 8.
phew i thought this video was on something like more minitoon drama
No one plays monsters and mortals anyways so it doesn’t matter
What was the collaboration? I forget
It was essentially adding Piggy characters and presumably a map to Monsters and Mortals, a Dark Deception game where many people fight to the death getting soul shards. Other Han that, I don’t know what else happens in the game, or what the collabs between other games mean.
Its just January 3 bro, dam.
Bro everyone forgot about that and plus the pigmas update will always be better.😂
MiniToon99 how do u edit ur thumbnails? Software I’m curious tho abt, just to test
Aw man
Uh Oh...
Yep, 2025 won’t be good lol
ENOUGHT😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 CAN YALL SHUT UP ALLREADY I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I THINK MINIYOON NEEDS TO CANCELL THE UPDATES HES. DOING
EVERYTHING HAS AN ISSUE WITH PIGGY JUST STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!
It's fake
What’s fake? The allegations?
@@Minitoonfan99 Half of the allegations are fake, or at least exaggerated to fit his narrative, and the other half are things Vince already apologised for, like the Yandev dlc, and he sorted out the drama with his programmer, Nikson. Realistically, the worst Vince's done was being a child on twitter and blocking people he disagrees with, however he seems to have changed since. The entire document was made out of spite for Vince, with many of doc's points being exaggerated, or outright false. On top of that, the author of that doc tries to use emotional manipulation to help his case, and make Vince look as bad as possible. Obviously most people don't know that (including you), because it's easier to only listen to one side of the argument, and spread hate and misinformation without listening to the other side. As a content creator, you should know better than to spread such allegations without even making sure they're real. Do better
@@Minitoonfan99 Very much so. Half of the document is things that have already been resolved peacefully by all parties involved, and the other half is straight up misinformation and lies. Me and many friends have known this Tails guy personally and he’s a vindictive manchild that is not to be trusted
I SAW YOU IN THE DISCORD SEREVR THIS IS FAKE NEWS LOL! 💀
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