John Major was our last decent Prime Minister of any stripe and, of course, he was vehemently against Brexit but his voice was drowned out in the white noise of the media onslaught.
yeah, he's the only conservative PM i actually like.. though most of them are likable in comparison to the last two PM's we had.. i had a lot of problems with Cameron but at least I felt safe when he was running the country! May, Johnson and Corbyn has me ready to pack my things and leave. Starmer has me hopeful, however
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The almost surreal situation where a pocket of Afghans lived in relative peace and a normal life, while the rest of Afghanistan was not. This reminded me of an oasis built in the middle of chaos and unrest. Perhaps another good comparison is a castle with high walls. The people live within the castle are constantly being threatened by incessant enemies from without. Constant vigilance and armed protections are needed to keep the enemies away. The economy within the castle needed cash injections to pop it up. This is the vision I see in the "westernized" Afghanistan, and I suspect this is what John Major is talking about. But he is being idealistic. Sooner or later, the defender of the castle will find it too taxing and too costly, financially and in human costs, to keep dong the same for another 20 years. What happened in Afghanistan was far from normal. And John Major believes that the West has moral obligations to keep propping up that unrealistic world. I think The West aren't doing it because they believe in democracy. They wanted to maintain a presence in that part of the world because, like Major said, it would be a vacuum if the West pulled out, leaving room for China and Russia to take over. But does the West have a choice? I think they realized that their global power is waning, staying is not an option. Establishing an oasis-like island within Afghanistan is very unrealistic anyway. For it to last, it needs stability which Afghanistan is lacking. And it never ever enjoyed peace and stability for centuries anyway. To try to achieve the impossibility is beyond America, NATO, Britain, Australia, Canada, and the entire set of kitchen sinks thrown in. But how do you create stability in a situation that is beyond being chaotic?
The money is flowing out off the west for 30 years and a small % did ok so we have become vessel states and are looking we’re too point the finger just remember when we point the finger at the problem 3 fingers always point back towards our selves
The comment section has already plenty of comments to support part of what I am about to say and that is that John Major suffered from an image issue. However, what he has just said is by and large a very realistic and honest view of the UK and the Afghanistan issue. I think he is one of the most underrated Prime Ministers. Being a supporter of Welsh independence, I wish to state that Welsh nationalism (read: separatism) is not dangerous. Naturally, he meant 'dangerous' it in terms of breaking up the union. What else he said was absolutely correct. The Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish are fully aware that because of the overwhelming number of English MPs in Westminster, that what England wants, England gets. So his point about English nationalism being far more dangerous is very true. Boris Johnson's administration thought it would be a good idea to ignore the devolved Governments at a time when he is in fact duty bound to consult them and to rub salt in the wound, his administration stupidly thought it a good idea to paste a union rag (aka flag to some) right in the middle of Cardiff. We all remember that stupid song he wanted school children to sing at the beginning of summer. It is as John Major says, not the correct strategy.
In what way has johnson ignored them? We are all currently part of the UK and so showing the national flag is correct. Only nationalist fanatics believe otherwise. The UK does a great deal for all parts of the UK, including heavy financial subsidies and the success of the vaccine rollout, that needs to be understood. You as a nationalist fanatic wants to hide the truth as it will impact negatively your support.
All countries have blood on their hands. To what degree differs. It's people that live together not governments. I am not responsible for what my ancestors did just as I have little control on what my government does today. Love from England
Dear Sir John Major , you are good looking you speak well and I know if we go to fight you will give the other side hell but be fair in the end because you are a man of God and find out in the end your diplomacy made us all just get along ! Congratulations to you Sir a man that I admire your presence and your words are what I do aspire!... Warmest greetings and wishes ,Lara G.
@@Felix-rising because he was trying to bring about peace which he did and now Brexit, bozo Boris and the far right at the heart of the gov are demolishing that peace!
@@Felix-rising John Major, through his excellent intelligence service actually defeated the I.R.A. The “entertainment,” (as you call it was a smokescreen,”) it kept the I.R.A. largely together, while disabling them.
@@patrickgleason2066 so John major became prime minister in 1990 , within 18 months we had the biggest upsurge in violence of all kinds since 1972. In that period we saw some of the most horrendous and pointless violence seen in the troubles. By 1991 the IRA had developed a HME that 80% as powerful as TNT and deployed it weekly in large quantities although there was a shortage of ireco detonators supplied by their American friends. The intelligence arms were fractured and therefore ineffectual. We didn’t defeat them it became a stale mate.
Over the centuries and even thousands of years, different parts of the world evolve differently. The US using their military superiority to impose their ideology on others is self-righteous and arrogant. It has resulted in the misery and deaths of millions of people all around the world. Few examples: > Vietnam War (1965-1974) 1.4 million civilian casualties (US Senate subcommittee report in 1975) > Iraq War resulted in 185,000-208,000 violent deaths. > US-led War in Afghanistan (2001-2021) 171,000 to 174,000 people were killed in Afghanistan, including women and children. Will the west ever learn?!
@@KW-hk2jd You are historically incorrect. European countries first went to India and China to buy their superior products. Later they conquered, colanised and exploited India and China became poor countries to the extent that both countries suffered famines. After gaining freedom both countries have prospered.
@@KW-hk2jd That Debatable The west we’re hardly on Holidays in the country s they took over they were stealing and making those country s pour as a result rob and plunder hardly a formula for long term stain ability only short term sugar hit for long term misery
@@KW-hk2jd The west has robed and plundered the world in the name off god and kings that hardly progress benefiting the few and misery for the vast majority off the globe
@@KW-hk2jd the success of the west is contingent upon cheap raw material imports from Africa and Asia. The easiest way to guarantee sole access for such materials is to invade and cause chaos. World peace will result in the decline of the west’s influence.
yes. He still believes in military subjugation of foreign sovereign states though. He doesn't provide any actual solutions to global political issues other than from the military-industrial complex. Such a nice, affable man.
I find Majors opinion on Afghanistan exit morally incomprehensible, its essentially an argument for occupuying so so many other countries. Iraq, Syria, and a host of other African countries. I thought we have moved on from this since colonialism. The truth is Afghanistan has been for a while a very tribal, archaic society and NATO-sponsored government could barely change that in Kabul and surrounding areas, let alone anywhere else over there. Unless Afghanis want to change themselves its a waste of lives and resources.
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I think we probably did have once. We stood by our agreements, we were early in dismantling our colonies, and politicians resigned when shown to be dishonest. Pretty much everything since 2017 has shown we have little in the way of morals now. Our government chose Trump deceit and lies anticipating he'd be reelected. Karma did the rest.
@@davebox588 lol no1! rescind participation to perpetuate this societal circus, cos surly no1 is better on your conscience than given cosent and being complicit to the abhorent criminal actions of a group of political parasites who share the same detrimental agenda.
@@aurynwestwield1682 but surely withdrawing participation leaves them to do what they want doesn't it? We have little enough control now but at least we have some. We really need to get back to constructive politics but that seems unlikely if people let the current lot get away with everything.
@@alanpattinson6211 Yeah no, the US can do military adventurism without the help of a waning power, but besides coming along with dreams of regaining some of their former status, war profiteering is always a strong motivator. To be fair, the Americans did pressure them to join some "coalition of the willing", for optics more than anything else. Now they are being thrown under the bus for the Abbey gate debacle at the Kabul airport.
@@alanpattinson6211 Track record militarily wise is actually very good, it's when the nation building starts that things turn into utter failure. But that's when pallets full of cash disappear and the real war profiteering begins.
HIs comments are naive and out of touch. he does not seem to understand strategy and strategic goals, and is very naive regarding Afghanistan. Most Afghans want Sharia and Islamic state, but maybe not as puritanical as the Taliban. He does not seem to understand that Afghanistan is not a meaningful nation but a mess of shifting tribal and ethnic loyalties. We are better off out of Afghanistan but rather to try and work with the Taliban to prevent the state from failing and keeping the terroists out. We have no interest in trying to solve Afghanistan's problems, just stop it from being another base for terrorists to attack us. Nation building needs to come from within nit be imposed at bayonet pont.
The Govt don’t like talking about lack of HGV drivers and staff shortages in the hospitality industry because it would need to accept that it is partially because of Brexit and EU workers leaving. The Govt says companies should pay staff more, but I thought Brexit was about prices going down! Importing and exporting to the EU costs more because of the additional paperwork this makes UK products less competitive and reduces UK companies’ profit margins. Funny how the Govt no longer keep on trumpeting Brexit. With this bunch of charlatans it’s more interesting when they keep quiet about things when they go wrong.
Nothing to do with the pandemic then? There are staff shortages across the western world. It hard to get any staff when people are scared of illness, excuses to stay home, being paid benefits not having to pay rent in some cases, furlough money, supply chain imbalances, plentiful jobs making people delay a return etc. Foreign and local workers went home to be with family and WFH where possible. Its mass disruption. No denying Brexit is having an impact, but most of that's hidden in the pandemic. You can hire EU migrants to work for min wages and overwork them.
@@rumourhats that's 1 out of context bit of random information, that you have repurposed for your brexit bashing. There could be a 100 different reasons and your data could be wrong. Maybe they are looking to recruit from outside the EU, maybe there are enough workers in the UK that have not decided to return to work (like every service industry that is short because of COVID) You'll find a way to grind your misery into everyone, have fun
@@Jay-xr3sb It's a solution proposed by the haulage industry calling on the government to issue temporary work visas to satisfy the shortage. But the government refuses. Why? You suggest, we are looking to recruit from outside of the EU. What's the point of that? Why does it matter if they're from outside the EU (which is less practical, btw), or inside the EU? Probably, the government are as insane as you come across.
@@rumourhats sure, an industry snaps its fingers and that'll be done overnight for you. Like I said, 100 different reasons. Why don't you look into it and find out, instead of asking a random person on the net to do your homework. Every industry and lobby wants more don't they, use your head instead of running your hysterics.
He talks of unsc not working because of China and Russia. That is not true, people are always being killed by Israel in Palestine and America keeps vetoing any resolution that even condemn the war crime or call for cease fire , I think that's what working means for him.
Interesting speech from a man freed of the Establishment shackles. Sad that when guys like him are at n°10 the pressure around them make them totally different. On Afghanistan yes we (US, UK and others) are leaving, yes we cannot battle here, in Hong Kong, in south China sea, in the middle East, in Africa, even the US can't. I am sorry to say we cannot host all the immigrants on the planet even though we do a lot in the EU for them. There is a maximum absorption rate above which it is an invasion (Certainly not the case in the UK). I also sort of disagree with his vision of Global Britain: the UK not a superpower but still able to lecture any country on the planet. Nice idea but you need to have a 100% clean trail which the UK today certainly has not thanks to recent governments.
Invasion is a RIOT dangerous and unsound I admire your intelligent comment I'm sometimes a bit daft imagine me with a finger in my mouth and reading aloud ! Right now I'm reading Frederick the Great The Magnificent Enigma so I guess I'm not really dumb it just takes me time to learn his history by Robert B. Asprey it takes a lot of reading and a long time before I'm done ! Sincerely Lara G. More comments from you I look forward to see !Lovely !
- Biden ‘handed’ Afghanistan back to ‘savages’! - Dozens of women gathered in Kabul to demand the continuation of the rights and freedoms that women enjoyed in the two decades after the Taliban. The women say they were attacked by Taliban forces with tear gas and pepper spray when they tried to cross the bridge to the presidential palace. - "Twenty-five years ago, when the Taliban came, they forbade me to go to school," said journalist Azita Nazemi. "I studied for 25 years and worked hard for a better future. We will not allow the past to happen again." - "The Taliban also hit women in the head with guns, and a number of women bled to death," said Suraya, another protester.
In October 2001, the United States sent troops to Afghanistan, and while attacking Al Qaeda and the Taliban, it also caused a large number of civilian casualties. Due to the lack of authoritative statistical data, all parties are inconclusive with regard to the civilian casualties in the war in Afghanistan. It is generally believed that since the US military entered Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, more than 30,000 civilians have been killed and injured by the US military, and about 11 million people have become refugees. After the US military announced its withdrawal in 2014, Afghanistan is still in turmoil. The New York Times website reported on July 30, 2019 that 363 people, including 89 children, were determined to have died from US military bombs in the first half of 2019. According to the assessment of academics at Kabul University, the war in Afghanistan caused an average of about 60 million U.S. dollars in economic losses and about 250 casualties every day.
John Major needs to see more of the world. If a country can't control who enters, a country of 50 million could easily attract 500 million migrants before the place looked so terrible that the rush to leave becomes the news. Control means making an illegality of an unauthorised activity in this type of case with a penalty of return to place of origin. If people are flooding out of their countries we should act to improve the situation in their home country - that does not have to mean regime change by military means. The UN may be imponent, and down to 3 super powers - US, China, EU, of which only two have a security council permanent vote, the UK has an opportunity to create more permanent voters due to the veto provisions. France should declare the EU has a veto it will honour, and the UK should declare India has a veto it will honour. If Major travelled more, he would realise India is now in a similar position China was when its veto was recognised.
"People said that ISI destroyed Russia with the help of USA then people will say that ISI defeated USA with the help of USA" Prophecy of "General Hameed Gull" Now, Afghanistan's Situation is Living Proof, No doubt why ISI is always No: 01 ❤️❤️
Major was a member of the Carlyle Group; I'm sure he still keeps his hand in with arms manufacturers. So, withdrawing from Afghanistan is likely not good for Major's stock portfolio
Man you don't have any evidence of that. If you want corrupt politicians without integrity, backed by the Arms Industry and Banking sectors and even foreign despots, sure just look to the current occupants in Westminster. If anything this guy and Gordon Brown were probably the last two level headed, educated, intelligent, reasonable and decent PM's Britain had.
@Chris Viking the west does not have the ability stop the taliban. we would eventually have had more troops on the ground which equals more nato troops dying. we do not have the stomach for it. if we had compromised in the first place instead of trying to build some psedo chhristian culture in a place that simply does not want it. when the taliban arrived the western backed government collapsed with karzi jumping ship to qatar with a few billion stuffed down his underpants. the west is corrupt
he was an abysmal prime minister and quite petulant in his behaviour. His thoughts on devolution are wide of the mark - the more you give the more they want., The SNP is using every means at its disposal to gain independence, and for the UK to surrender to and pander to them will make it inevitable. Devolution was very badly handled by (of course) Blair and left too many anomalies which allowed a cynic and fanatic like Sturgeon to exploit them to push her cause. As to illegal immigrants, which major disingenuously and emotively calls refugees he is wrong there too. He seems to advocate allowing in anyone who chooses to come, regardless of their background. The pressure this already puts on our social infrastructure is unsupportable, Our housing stock is way too low for the current population, our NHS is creaking, schools are overwhelmed in some areas wtih all the languages and cultures we have to support. John Major is not personally affected by any of this - he lives in a nice, white middle-class part of the country. he made one interesting point on Afghanistan about the youth of the population and what it has lived under. However he forgets that most Afghans do still support Sharia law and an Islamic state. maybe not as puritanical as the Taliban but not much different. There are plenty of Muslims in this country who have known nothing about democracy and women's rights, but who support Sharia. A for staying in Afghanistan, it would have cost tens of billions more (paid by the US not the rest of us) and more western and Afghan lives lost. Part of the reason the US is closing inwards is due to the abysmal support it gets forom the other NATO and western countries. Everyone wants US support and money, no one will step up to the mark and share the burden fairly. But we all whine about their behaviour.
@@dnmurphy48 SNP are entitled to seek independence from a union that they were basically forced to join, the Irish will reunite Ireland sometime in the next forty years , it's inevitable as the nationalists are already the majority, leaving the EU was the biggest mistake Britain has ever made , the damage to the economy is only beginning and has been hidden by the pandemic, what you will witness soon is a resurgent Germany and a European military force with serious power and Britain will be unable to influence its decisions. Putin has been forecasting this development for sometime, he is also the provider of Germany's energy needs and will eventually form an alliance with them and not China.🇪🇺
This was one of the guys responsible for taking away the identity of a country from their own people and allowing an immigrant population so much force that they have taken over many towns all over the country and many companies are full of majority of hundreds of foreign only staff.. And he still is talking about refugees should be able to ealk in when they want how they want and be greeted he should be put in an asylum, amazes me that anyone thinks he knows whats right and wrong when he got that so wrong. To have speeches..
JOHN MAJOR PLEASE! Chicken soup will get ye bye, butt it takes meat & potatoes to build a serious work. ___ A dramatic change in the demographics of a country could ultimately lead to new economic & military alliances not foreseen by previous administrations and that are not necessarily in the country's best interests. ___ GOD is sovereign. Man is situational. GOD doesn't lie. Man does! ___ The dragon can not morph. It can not make a dramatic change in its physical appearance, structure, habits or nature. However, like a chameleon it can change its color [religion & politics] to suit its environment and every situation. The followers of the false prophet fall down and worship the beast and the beast can not be tamed. ___ Did Chambering spirits tame Adolph Hitler? ___ John Major fades out completely when talking futuristically about an England which has undergone some serious economic & military downgrades and is now playing nurse - nanna to a few dozen "failed states" at the United Nations. The illegal refugee problem and "England without a cause" are "nothingburgers" in that there's no real meat to them. It's like Canada's submarines. They're 50% tofu. ___ CONCLUSION: "Humanism is deceitful & sincerity of effort is a delusion." ____ Is this statement; TRUE ___ FALSE ____ SOME TRUTH TO A FABLE ___ ABSOLUTELY UNSOUND ____ DUH! I JUST DON'T KNOW! ___
It was easy to say that when a person sets foot in England he is a free man because he was very likely a cut of the same cloth. His language, culture and religious beliefs could easily be absorbed by the locals. Otherwise he was just passing through. That is not necessarily the case today in many instances. For instance, a Muslim moderate in Canada said on September 12th. 2001 that "9/11 was good for America and another 3 or 4 wouldn't hurt." It was eerily apparent at that time that one of the attacks would be a Tet Offensive similar to Viet Nam. That turned out to be Al Bad Baghdadi's caliphate and now a resurgence of the Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I think Trump's lack of empathy towards his own people and his sowing discord everywhere has really hurt America. A Hollywood has no business being in the White House!
All religions and cultures are absorbed into British culture. All except the sand in the oil of Islam. That religion doesn't want to absorb it wants to put a foot on the neck of everyone else. What has happened? Islam was a tolerant philosophy. It is now nothing about religion but man's power on earth
@@dnmurphy48 It is Western countries that engage in wars and economic sanctions to destroy other countries Colonial plunder, slave trade, and economic sanctions were all done by Western countries, and they are doing it in a different form now Don’t think that others are as dirty as Western countries
Of course they are. The UAE are savages. Stop perpetuating nationalistic political and religious bigotry. I am British but have no control on what my ancestors did and have little control on what my government does. I can do my positive bit in a small way. You are selling hate
Major is a 'Remainer' and look at the world from the perspective of Western value and political systems, ignoring all other values, cultures and political systems. Everything he said should be taken with a huge pinch of salt.
Reported in the Arabic news, Jordan- what a generous offer made by Qatari, UAE sheikhs and Turkish Directorate of Religious Affairs. They have offered to help build Mosques and Quranic education schools for new refugees to UK, EU and Canada. Very generous offer for Justin and friends in Canada, UK, and EU. Described as a Diplomatic set back for Jacinda of New Zealand.
John Major was our last decent Prime Minister of any stripe and, of course, he was vehemently against Brexit but his voice was drowned out in the white noise of the media onslaught.
yeah, he's the only conservative PM i actually like.. though most of them are likable in comparison to the last two PM's we had.. i had a lot of problems with Cameron but at least I felt safe when he was running the country! May, Johnson and Corbyn has me ready to pack my things and leave.
Starmer has me hopeful, however
I agree they have all been bad since.
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The almost surreal situation where a pocket of Afghans lived in relative peace and a normal life, while the rest of Afghanistan was not. This reminded me of an oasis built in the middle of chaos and unrest. Perhaps another good comparison is a castle with high walls. The people live within the castle are constantly being threatened by incessant enemies from without. Constant vigilance and armed protections are needed to keep the enemies away. The economy within the castle needed cash injections to pop it up.
This is the vision I see in the "westernized" Afghanistan, and I suspect this is what John Major is talking about. But he is being idealistic. Sooner or later, the defender of the castle will find it too taxing and too costly, financially and in human costs, to keep dong the same for another 20 years. What happened in Afghanistan was far from normal. And John Major believes that the West has moral obligations to keep propping up that unrealistic world. I think The West aren't doing it because they believe in democracy. They wanted to maintain a presence in that part of the world because, like Major said, it would be a vacuum if the West pulled out, leaving room for China and Russia to take over. But does the West have a choice? I think they realized that their global power is waning, staying is not an option.
Establishing an oasis-like island within Afghanistan is very unrealistic anyway. For it to last, it needs stability which Afghanistan is lacking. And it never ever enjoyed peace and stability for centuries anyway. To try to achieve the impossibility is beyond America, NATO, Britain, Australia, Canada, and the entire set of kitchen sinks thrown in. But how do you create stability in a situation that is beyond being chaotic?
The money is flowing out off the west for 30 years and a small % did ok so we have become vessel states and are looking we’re too point the finger just remember when we point the finger at the problem 3 fingers always point back towards our selves
Pretty much spelled out how UK ceases to exist, United Kingdom will be small England in next few years.
He’s much more left wing than he used to be. His comments on migration at the end are unbelievable for a conservative.
What did he used to believe?
The comment section has already plenty of comments to support part of what I am about to say and that is that John Major suffered from an image issue. However, what he has just said is by and large a very realistic and honest view of the UK and the Afghanistan issue. I think he is one of the most underrated Prime Ministers. Being a supporter of Welsh independence, I wish to state that Welsh nationalism (read: separatism) is not dangerous. Naturally, he meant 'dangerous' it in terms of breaking up the union. What else he said was absolutely correct. The Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish are fully aware that because of the overwhelming number of English MPs in Westminster, that what England wants, England gets. So his point about English nationalism being far more dangerous is very true. Boris Johnson's administration thought it would be a good idea to ignore the devolved Governments at a time when he is in fact duty bound to consult them and to rub salt in the wound, his administration stupidly thought it a good idea to paste a union rag (aka flag to some) right in the middle of Cardiff. We all remember that stupid song he wanted school children to sing at the beginning of summer. It is as John Major says, not the correct strategy.
In what way has johnson ignored them? We are all currently part of the UK and so showing the national flag is correct. Only nationalist fanatics believe otherwise. The UK does a great deal for all parts of the UK, including heavy financial subsidies and the success of the vaccine rollout, that needs to be understood. You as a nationalist fanatic wants to hide the truth as it will impact negatively your support.
Butchers Apron as that rag is known globally !
All countries have blood on their hands. To what degree differs. It's people that live together not governments. I am not responsible for what my ancestors did just as I have little control on what my government does today. Love from England
Time we went, and personally I'd invite yr Hen Ogledd up North to come too. "England" is really just the Home Counties.
@@dnmurphy48 You are coming over as a unionist fanatic.
It’s quite a revelation that ultimately it’s not better information but stronger opinion. A PM is really no wiser.
Dear Sir John Major , you are good looking you speak well and I know if we go to fight you will give the other side hell but be fair in the end because you are a man of God and find out in the end your diplomacy made us all just get along ! Congratulations to you Sir a man that I admire your presence and your words are what I do aspire!... Warmest greetings and wishes ,Lara G.
Again I love you Sir John Major I know we're going to win !
It’s amazing how perceptive people can be after the event .
The man that was entertaining the IRA while people were being murdered daily
@@Felix-rising because he was trying to bring about peace which he did and now Brexit, bozo Boris and the far right at the heart of the gov are demolishing that peace!
@@twistedcherrypop so you think John major brought peace to NI ? Do you ever watch the news ? Lol
@@Felix-rising John Major, through his excellent intelligence service actually defeated the I.R.A. The “entertainment,” (as you call it was a smokescreen,”) it kept the I.R.A. largely together, while disabling them.
@@patrickgleason2066 so John major became prime minister in 1990 , within 18 months we had the biggest upsurge in violence of all kinds since 1972. In that period we saw some of the most horrendous and pointless violence seen in the troubles. By 1991 the IRA had developed a HME that 80% as powerful as TNT and deployed it weekly in large quantities although there was a shortage of ireco detonators supplied by their American friends. The intelligence arms were fractured and therefore ineffectual. We didn’t defeat them it became a stale mate.
Over the centuries and even thousands of years, different parts of the world evolve differently.
The US using their military superiority to impose their ideology on others is self-righteous and arrogant.
It has resulted in the misery and deaths of millions of people all around the world.
Few examples:
> Vietnam War (1965-1974) 1.4 million civilian casualties (US Senate subcommittee report in 1975)
> Iraq War resulted in 185,000-208,000 violent deaths.
> US-led War in Afghanistan (2001-2021) 171,000 to 174,000 people were killed in Afghanistan, including women and children.
Will the west ever learn?!
@@KW-hk2jd
You are historically incorrect.
European countries first went to India and China to buy their superior products.
Later they conquered, colanised and exploited
India and China became poor countries to the extent that both countries suffered famines.
After gaining freedom both countries have prospered.
@@BlueMax333 well said!
@@KW-hk2jd That Debatable The west we’re hardly on Holidays in the country s they took over they were stealing and making those country s pour as a result rob and plunder hardly a formula for long term stain ability only short term sugar hit for long term misery
@@KW-hk2jd The west has robed and plundered the world in the name off god and kings that hardly progress benefiting the few and misery for the vast majority off the globe
@@KW-hk2jd the success of the west is contingent upon cheap raw material imports from Africa and Asia.
The easiest way to guarantee sole access for such materials is to invade and cause chaos.
World peace will result in the decline of the west’s influence.
No thanks once was enough when he was prime minister.
John major has aged far better than tony Blair.
Wow !! From a conservative speaks volumes !!
man is speaking sense
John Major is quite astute, and affable, isn't he? Much more of a respectable statesmen these days, than his time as PM.
yes. He still believes in military subjugation of foreign sovereign states though. He doesn't provide any actual solutions to global political issues other than from the military-industrial complex. Such a nice, affable man.
@@treyquattro It's all relative. I voted for Kinnock.
I find Majors opinion on Afghanistan exit morally incomprehensible, its essentially an argument for occupuying so so many other countries. Iraq, Syria, and a host of other African countries. I thought we have moved on from this since colonialism. The truth is Afghanistan has been for a while a very tribal, archaic society and NATO-sponsored government could barely change that in Kabul and surrounding areas, let alone anywhere else over there. Unless Afghanis want to change themselves its a waste of lives and resources.
John Major, a voice from UKs ancient past - very sensible, humanistic, but, regrettably, without power to change the current state of affairs.
Regrettably.
Retro. Ingerand and the ancient 1970s worldview.
Tory party rule by the Spartans ! Next pm Mark Francois aided by Sammy Wilsion and Poots as science n industry minister!
Where is the power
Genuinely interested: what’s the basis of Britain’s moral authority, if it has one?
Certainly John Major hasn't got any moral authority. If you don't believe this, ask Edwina Curry.
Excuse me Sir/Madam
Are you saved?
If you died tonight are you going to heaven?
@@gagsdoublej4254 No, and neither are you.
Great question Ben. Anyone out there got an answer? I can't think of anything.
I think we probably did have once. We stood by our agreements, we were early in dismantling our colonies, and politicians resigned when shown to be dishonest. Pretty much everything since 2017 has shown we have little in the way of morals now.
Our government chose Trump deceit and lies anticipating he'd be reelected. Karma did the rest.
There is a virtue in keeping the silence of the dead, and this applies now more than ever.
Explain this "virtue to me please.
Brexit holds the Conservative party together and will ultimately cause its demise.
When will the Tories demise happen?
@@Joekd6.1 fingers crossed the LibLabCon will be disbanded after their draconian nature has been exposed via COVID, and anyone who votes is complicit.
@@aurynwestwield1682 honest question: replaced by who though?
@@davebox588 lol no1! rescind participation to perpetuate this societal circus, cos surly no1 is better on your conscience than given cosent and being complicit to the abhorent criminal actions of a group of political parasites who share the same detrimental agenda.
@@aurynwestwield1682 but surely withdrawing participation leaves them to do what they want doesn't it? We have little enough control now but at least we have some. We really need to get back to constructive politics but that seems unlikely if people let the current lot get away with everything.
The voice of a former colonial power counting on the US to back up its warmongering bark.
I wonder how that former colonial power got involved surely it was not to support the US.
@@alanpattinson6211 Yeah no, the US can do military adventurism without the help of a waning power, but besides coming along with dreams of regaining some of their former status, war profiteering is always a strong motivator. To be fair, the Americans did pressure them to join some "coalition of the willing", for optics more than anything else. Now they are being thrown under the bus for the Abbey gate debacle at the Kabul airport.
@@lt.scheisskopf3712 Yes you can do the military adventurism on your own the only trouble is your track record is rather dismal.
@@alanpattinson6211 Track record militarily wise is actually very good, it's when the nation building starts that things turn into utter failure. But that's when pallets full of cash disappear and the real war profiteering begins.
@@lt.scheisskopf3712 Does the very good part relate to the bannana wars.
Afghan & Iraq were terrible American mistakes Blair didn't have the balls to defy.
WILL THIS TOTAL PILLOCK MAJOR PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. MOST BRITS STILL REMEMBER THE TERRIBLE RECESSION OF 1991
This guy hasn't aged much, still looks the same as he did in the 90s. Tony Blair on the other hand......
He probably can sleep easy at night however Blair is a war criminal its catching up..
@Matt 😂
I am very impressed. What a remarkable man.🇪🇺🇫🇷
HIs comments are naive and out of touch. he does not seem to understand strategy and strategic goals, and is very naive regarding Afghanistan. Most Afghans want Sharia and Islamic state, but maybe not as puritanical as the Taliban. He does not seem to understand that Afghanistan is not a meaningful nation but a mess of shifting tribal and ethnic loyalties. We are better off out of Afghanistan but rather to try and work with the Taliban to prevent the state from failing and keeping the terroists out. We have no interest in trying to solve Afghanistan's problems, just stop it from being another base for terrorists to attack us. Nation building needs to come from within nit be imposed at bayonet pont.
He is right, from a British point of view!
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The Govt don’t like talking about lack of HGV drivers and staff shortages in the hospitality industry because it would need to accept that it is partially because of Brexit and EU workers leaving.
The Govt says companies should pay staff more, but I thought Brexit was about prices going down! Importing and exporting to the EU costs more because of the additional paperwork this makes UK products less competitive and reduces UK companies’ profit margins.
Funny how the Govt no longer keep on trumpeting Brexit. With this bunch of charlatans it’s more interesting when they keep quiet about things when they go wrong.
Nothing to do with the pandemic then? There are staff shortages across the western world. It hard to get any staff when people are scared of illness, excuses to stay home, being paid benefits not having to pay rent in some cases, furlough money, supply chain imbalances, plentiful jobs making people delay a return etc.
Foreign and local workers went home to be with family and WFH where possible. Its mass disruption.
No denying Brexit is having an impact, but most of that's hidden in the pandemic.
You can hire EU migrants to work for min wages and overwork them.
@@Jay-xr3sb Why does the government refuse to issue visas for more EU lorry drivers? This is Brexit ideology.
@@rumourhats that's 1 out of context bit of random information, that you have repurposed for your brexit bashing.
There could be a 100 different reasons and your data could be wrong.
Maybe they are looking to recruit from outside the EU, maybe there are enough workers in the UK that have not decided to return to work (like every service industry that is short because of COVID)
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@@Jay-xr3sb It's a solution proposed by the haulage industry calling on the government to issue temporary work visas to satisfy the shortage. But the government refuses. Why?
You suggest, we are looking to recruit from outside of the EU. What's the point of that? Why does it matter if they're from outside the EU (which is less practical, btw), or inside the EU?
Probably, the government are as insane as you come across.
@@rumourhats sure, an industry snaps its fingers and that'll be done overnight for you.
Like I said, 100 different reasons. Why don't you look into it and find out, instead of asking a random person on the net to do your homework.
Every industry and lobby wants more don't they, use your head instead of running your hysterics.
Unreal. A conservative that can talk sense. I almost feel like I missed out on his reign now haha, far better than the tory cretins in power today.
1:10 is very poignant today
How did our cultural marxism improve Afghanistan?
John Major looking good and talking well!
He talks of unsc not working because of China and Russia. That is not true, people are always being killed by Israel in Palestine and America keeps vetoing any resolution that even condemn the war crime or call for cease fire , I think that's what working means for him.
Interesting speech from a man freed of the Establishment shackles. Sad that when guys like him are at n°10 the pressure around them make them totally different. On Afghanistan yes we (US, UK and others) are leaving, yes we cannot battle here, in Hong Kong, in south China sea, in the middle East, in Africa, even the US can't. I am sorry to say we cannot host all the immigrants on the planet even though we do a lot in the EU for them. There is a maximum absorption rate above which it is an invasion (Certainly not the case in the UK). I also sort of disagree with his vision of Global Britain: the UK not a superpower but still able to lecture any country on the planet. Nice idea but you need to have a 100% clean trail which the UK today certainly has not thanks to recent governments.
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- Biden ‘handed’ Afghanistan back to ‘savages’!
- Dozens of women gathered in Kabul to demand the continuation of the rights and freedoms that women enjoyed in the two decades after the Taliban. The women say they were attacked by Taliban forces with tear gas and pepper spray when they tried to cross the bridge to the presidential palace.
- "Twenty-five years ago, when the Taliban came, they forbade me to go to school," said journalist Azita Nazemi.
"I studied for 25 years and worked hard for a better future. We will not allow the past to happen again."
- "The Taliban also hit women in the head with guns, and a number of women bled to death," said Suraya, another protester.
When he speaks assylum seekers he wrongly says "Europe and UK" when he should have said Uk only
Last time I saw major he was prime minister looking well these days not grey
I remember when John Major was Prime Minister,England look like a real western countries
That would have been a good place for a protest.
@@christga100 I agree, but it would be entertaining.
In October 2001, the United States sent troops to Afghanistan, and while attacking Al Qaeda and the Taliban, it also caused a large number of civilian casualties. Due to the lack of authoritative statistical data, all parties are inconclusive with regard to the civilian casualties in the war in Afghanistan. It is generally believed that since the US military entered Afghanistan on October 7, 2001, more than 30,000 civilians have been killed and injured by the US military, and about 11 million people have become refugees. After the US military announced its withdrawal in 2014, Afghanistan is still in turmoil. The New York Times website reported on July 30, 2019 that 363 people, including 89 children, were determined to have died from US military bombs in the first half of 2019. According to the assessment of academics at Kabul University, the war in Afghanistan caused an average of about 60 million U.S. dollars in economic losses and about 250 casualties every day.
Another fool and an old man. Take the back seat.
Words mean nothing in this day and age. Substance comes from the heart. Doing Good for your fellow man.
👍🏾 homegrown initiatives. Similar to philanthropy
Well spoken .. you were a great PM
Major is tied to the old reliables. EU , WHO , Intervention in middle east etc etc .
John Major needs to see more of the world. If a country can't control who enters, a country of 50 million could easily attract 500 million migrants before the place looked so terrible that the rush to leave becomes the news. Control means making an illegality of an unauthorised activity in this type of case with a penalty of return to place of origin. If people are flooding out of their countries we should act to improve the situation in their home country - that does not have to mean regime change by military means.
The UN may be imponent, and down to 3 super powers - US, China, EU, of which only two have a security council permanent vote, the UK has an opportunity to create more permanent voters due to the veto provisions. France should declare the EU has a veto it will honour, and the UK should declare India has a veto it will honour. If Major travelled more, he would realise India is now in a similar position China was when its veto was recognised.
He sounds just like his puppet. 🤫
what happened to CANZUK or Five Eyes?
I live in the EU and I disagree that it's a superpower, for what's worth.
John major and fascinating, don’t see that in the same sentence often.
Moral authority!?. Joker!
"People said that ISI destroyed Russia with the help of USA then people will say that ISI defeated USA with the help of USA" Prophecy of "General Hameed Gull"
Now, Afghanistan's Situation is Living Proof, No doubt why ISI is always No: 01 ❤️❤️
Are you talking about the Pakistani branch of the CIA ?
@@casteretpollux gestures is more than enough for a wise man
Why everyone so obsessed with Afghanistan, its annoying
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Major was a member of the Carlyle Group; I'm sure he still keeps his hand in with arms manufacturers. So, withdrawing from Afghanistan is likely not good for Major's stock portfolio
Man you don't have any evidence of that. If you want corrupt politicians without integrity, backed by the Arms Industry and Banking sectors and even foreign despots, sure just look to the current occupants in Westminster. If anything this guy and Gordon Brown were probably the last two level headed, educated, intelligent, reasonable and decent PM's Britain had.
UK may not be a superpower, but it sure sells enough armaments to put it in the big league.
That's the truth. Guess that's where our moral high ground comes from
@@nealbeard1 a dealer doesn't partake haha that's why the UK needs the US to fight wars on its behalf
Hes so classy and intelligent could he run for primenister again?
The Carlyle group head criminal
A wise man 👌!
lol.
Great reset bollocks
This guy is clueless. Nation building has clearly failed the last 20+ years.
He always was. That’s why he was knighted
This talk exemplified the cognitive dissonance of an out of touch ruling and intellectual class.
Totally correct. Major is wildly out of touch and naive on this subject, as are many others.
Secede. It cant
John WHO ?
The EU is a superpower? Really? Since when?
Since it became the 3rd largest economy the world, money talks.
This guy ceased to be relevant decades ago.
#yes
We did it, Joe. 👏
50% complete bollocks.
He is dreaming of the British dreams in the 1800!
Rather negative outlook.
What a morron ! Pure politician talk. The repuatation of thw west… is he refering to the afghan civilian casualties?
PM John is out of date.
should not have been in afghanistan in the first place and i like john major.
but you were and you killed.YOUR END IS HERE
@@estherdaitey1701 as they say in the panto "oh no i wasnt," i served in NI.
@Chris Viking the west does not have the ability stop the taliban. we would eventually have had more troops on the ground which equals more nato troops dying. we do not have the stomach for it. if we had compromised in the first place instead of trying to build some psedo chhristian culture in a place that simply does not want it. when the taliban arrived the western backed government collapsed with karzi jumping ship to qatar with a few billion stuffed down his underpants. the west is corrupt
"You were"? Our government was there not us. How can one citizen be held responsible? This is the same mindset that perpetuates racism and bigotry
@@nealbeard1 i was in commando forces i want morality to be the key i am but one person but my thoughts are universal
John Major is a well respected man still. Perhaps the best prime minister UK ever had post war.
They all work for the Rothschild banking cabal! Who have been running this country for hundreds of years..
he was an abysmal prime minister and quite petulant in his behaviour. His thoughts on devolution are wide of the mark - the more you give the more they want., The SNP is using every means at its disposal to gain independence, and for the UK to surrender to and pander to them will make it inevitable. Devolution was very badly handled by (of course) Blair and left too many anomalies which allowed a cynic and fanatic like Sturgeon to exploit them to push her cause. As to illegal immigrants, which major disingenuously and emotively calls refugees he is wrong there too. He seems to advocate allowing in anyone who chooses to come, regardless of their background. The pressure this already puts on our social infrastructure is unsupportable, Our housing stock is way too low for the current population, our NHS is creaking, schools are overwhelmed in some areas wtih all the languages and cultures we have to support. John Major is not personally affected by any of this - he lives in a nice, white middle-class part of the country.
he made one interesting point on Afghanistan about the youth of the population and what it has lived under. However he forgets that most Afghans do still support Sharia law and an Islamic state. maybe not as puritanical as the Taliban but not much different. There are plenty of Muslims in this country who have known nothing about democracy and women's rights, but who support Sharia. A for staying in Afghanistan, it would have cost tens of billions more (paid by the US not the rest of us) and more western and Afghan lives lost.
Part of the reason the US is closing inwards is due to the abysmal support it gets forom the other NATO and western countries. Everyone wants US support and money, no one will step up to the mark and share the burden fairly. But we all whine about their behaviour.
@@dnmurphy48 SNP are entitled to seek independence from a union that they were basically forced to join, the Irish will reunite Ireland sometime in the next forty years , it's inevitable as the nationalists are already the majority, leaving the EU was the biggest mistake Britain has ever made , the damage to the economy is only beginning and has been hidden by the pandemic, what you will witness soon is a resurgent Germany and a European military force with serious power and Britain will be unable to influence its decisions. Putin has been forecasting this development for sometime, he is also the provider of Germany's energy needs and will eventually form an alliance with them and not China.🇪🇺
Great in the sack as well I believe
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This was one of the guys responsible for taking away the identity of a country from their own people and allowing an immigrant population so much force that they have taken over many towns all over the country and many companies are full of majority of hundreds of foreign only staff..
And he still is talking about refugees should be able to ealk in when they want how they want and be greeted
he should be put in an asylum, amazes me that anyone thinks he knows whats right and wrong when he got that so wrong. To have speeches..
JOHN MAJOR PLEASE! Chicken soup will get ye bye, butt it takes meat & potatoes to build a serious work. ___ A dramatic change in the demographics of a country could ultimately lead to new economic & military alliances not foreseen by previous administrations and that are not necessarily in the country's best interests. ___ GOD is sovereign. Man is situational. GOD doesn't lie. Man does! ___ The dragon can not morph. It can not make a dramatic change in its physical appearance, structure, habits or nature. However, like a chameleon it can change its color [religion & politics] to suit its environment and every situation. The followers of the false prophet fall down and worship the beast and the beast can not be tamed. ___ Did Chambering spirits tame Adolph Hitler? ___ John Major fades out completely when talking futuristically about an England which has undergone some serious economic & military downgrades and is now playing nurse - nanna to a few dozen "failed states" at the United Nations. The illegal refugee problem and "England without a cause" are "nothingburgers" in that there's no real meat to them. It's like Canada's submarines. They're 50% tofu. ___ CONCLUSION: "Humanism is deceitful & sincerity of effort is a delusion." ____ Is this statement; TRUE ___ FALSE ____ SOME TRUTH TO A FABLE ___ ABSOLUTELY UNSOUND ____ DUH! I JUST DON'T KNOW! ___
Now bland man is having his say after Blair the Bomber did his tour of media studios
Bollocks. Servility incarnate
John Major needs to change his prescription drugs!!
Wake up, he's a product of the Wesminster bubble, utterly clueless.
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The last great British conservative.
Michael Hestletine.
Congratulations Taliban ❤❤❤🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰❤❤❤
Pakistan next ❤️❤️❤️❤️🇵🇰🤝🇦🇫❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ تحریک طالبان پاکستان
Welcome to the dark ages and and an even more miserable version of a ridiculous religion
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Whatever Major says is pointless and meaningless anyway.
Well the same could be said for you then
@@nealbeard1 if Major cares so much, come out of retirement then.
It was easy to say that when a person sets foot in England he is a free man because he was very likely a cut of the same cloth. His language, culture and religious beliefs could easily be absorbed by the locals. Otherwise he was just passing through. That is not necessarily the case today in many instances. For instance, a Muslim moderate in Canada said on September 12th. 2001 that "9/11 was good for America and another 3 or 4 wouldn't hurt." It was eerily apparent at that time that one of the attacks would be a Tet Offensive similar to Viet Nam. That turned out to be Al Bad Baghdadi's caliphate and now a resurgence of the Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I think Trump's lack of empathy towards his own people and his sowing discord everywhere has really hurt America. A Hollywood has no business being in the White House!
All religions and cultures are absorbed into British culture. All except the sand in the oil of Islam. That religion doesn't want to absorb it wants to put a foot on the neck of everyone else. What has happened? Islam was a tolerant philosophy. It is now nothing about religion but man's power on earth
And the rest of the world
The ideological prejudice of the old colonial empire
Presumably you prefer China's new colonial model
@@dnmurphy48 It is Western countries that engage in wars and economic sanctions to destroy other countries
Colonial plunder, slave trade, and economic sanctions were all done by Western countries, and they are doing it in a different form now
Don’t think that others are as dirty as Western countries
Of course they are. The UAE are savages. Stop perpetuating nationalistic political and religious bigotry. I am British but have no control on what my ancestors did and have little control on what my government does. I can do my positive bit in a small way. You are selling hate
Taliban 😉
He talks in abstractions, that's easy to do!=)
Who? No one important
Major is a 'Remainer' and look at the world from the perspective of Western value and political systems, ignoring all other values, cultures and political systems. Everything he said should be taken with a huge pinch of salt.
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Another failure
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Reported in the Arabic news, Jordan- what a generous offer made by Qatari, UAE sheikhs and Turkish Directorate of Religious Affairs. They have offered to help build Mosques and Quranic education schools for new refugees to UK, EU and Canada.
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Just a stupid comment.