Never stop digressing. The fact that Trojan the record label was named after the defunct car company is exactly the kind of useful information one wants in a film of the London underground.
Agreed... I'm all in favour of digression. Something I share with my father who was a toolmaker who served his apprenticeship at Chatham Dockyard which was where HMS Victory was built which famously....
Duke Reid's Trojan van, that he used to carry his gear with, in Jamaica, and was signwritten with: "Duke Reid - The Trojan King Of Sounds". Some Trojan vans had a third headlight in the centre of the radiator grille. I have a friend who has a phobia about freestanding chimneys, so thanks to you, I can now advise him to give this Croydon industrial estate a wide swerve. Also, Ikea. Worth a swerve in anyone's books. Two Allen keys and no bloody bolts! (Sorry, painful flashback there).
Some of their cars were made in Kingston (Surrey, not Jamaica) on the site that later became a Hawker Siddley factory. Always seemed odd to make planes in a place without a runway.
@@brianartillery I'm not sure if a phobia of free standing chimberlies is more or less bizarre than my phobia of price stickers or a friend's phobia of file dividers. Well... Phobia does mean an *irrational* fear I suppose so your irrational fear might as well be completely irrational.
I don't see how Emirates Air Line is a sponsorship deal. Emirates are a demonym of people from the UAE. I suppose yes formally there is an airline called Emirates, but most folks I know refer to them as BA - Bling Air! 🤣
I live in Gothenburg, Sweden, and my closest tram stop is named "SKF", after the company who invented the modern ball bearing in 1907. They used to have their head office here, but now they've moved 200m south, across the small river. I have never ever thought about how weird it is that a tram stop is named after a company before your video, and now I cant stop thinking about it!
"That's a lot of meatballs", "... and now this site of horror and terror is an IKEA." Dry British humour, then taken through a de-humidifier at it's best. Made me chuckle.
There is a station in Clydebank called Singer. It was named after the Singer Sewing Machine Factory which was enormous and for a time one of the biggest employers in the area, the factory and the company are long gone but the Station is still called Singer.
I see “takes from The tube” as a name that just conveys “trails from London” I REALLY enjoy your informational videos of various factors of london that you don’t usually see!
IKEA Ampere Way...strange name for a station...sounds like some new electronic device. Here in Chicago, it's possible to go to MARS on one of our commuter rail lines. It should be Oak Park Avenue, but it's the stop adjacent to the Mars candy factory.
There is also a Mars,outside of Pittsburgh! NASA,would save a lot of money on exploration,as you'd only pay local fares,either on rail or bus! As to Ampere,there is one in New Jersey,formerly on a trolley route,now a bus route,and also on a rail station,(no subway,anywhere near,). There may be more,that is simply overlooked!
That's the IKEA where I bought my beloved "Sladda" bicycle... and the same one I took it back to for a full refund, less than a year later. I didn't want a refund, but the bike was recalled on safety grounds. (Sigh) It was a smashing bike, with super colour matching luggage racks front and rear. When I see those chimneys I don't think of sofas or bookcases, although we have had those too. I think of my bike, and how much I wish I still had it.
When I hear Sladda bikes, I immediately picture my old buddy we went to school with who bought one and then had it stolen not a week later. Never got it recovered.
@@jslonisch I don't believe they sell bikes anymore. Interestingly, failures were actually very rare, and now anyone who held on to their "Sladda," instead of accepting their money back, could sell for twice what they paid for it.
@Rebel Historian Mine, too. I gave it the nickname "Hell", and my partner used to ask if we could drive to Hell. I would sit in the car, to avoid the hyperventilation that was brought on by going in, and just drove to the exit to pick her up when she phoned to say she was ready.
Why are you weird for not wanting sponsorship of stations.? For instance, who wants these? MacDonald's Totten-Hamburger Court. Google-Goodge Street Strat-Ford Motors. Amazon Amersham Star-Bucks-Hurst Hill London Microsoft City Airport Emirates Greenwich Peninsula No, wait a minute, that actually is a station!
@@bourbonryescotch1 Hi there BRS. OK. I looked up Strathspey Railway. It's a steam service right? There are 3 stations on line. Aviemore, Boat of Garten and Broomhill. Is this the line you mean?
@Reb Mordechai Hi Reb, the one you mentioned is the preserved one. The original one ran all the way to Dufftown and was closed in 1966. Dailuaine and Balmenach distilleries were connected to this railway. Noteworthy stations on this line are Craigellachie, Aberlour, Dailuaine Halt, Imperial Cottages Halt, Knockando, Ballindalloch. Too bad this line was axed, otherwise it would have been the nicest whisky trails by train.
@@bourbonryescotch1 Wow, Thank you for telling me about this. it sounds like a dream train whisky trail line. Perfect for those wishing to visit all the distilleries along the route without driving. Please G-d, when this pandemic is finally over and we are all healthy with jobs....I think it would be a terrific idea to open this line again. I'm sure it would be profitable. But they'd have to add a few stations. Little Tipsy, Sloshed On-The-Whey, Pished Park, Blootered Burns, Hammered Halt, Sozzled Street, Trollied Trail, Plastered Place, Oot-Yet-Tree Junction.
IBM had its name adorning a station for 40 years (until 2018) in Spango Valley near Greenock, though the name outlasted IBM's activities, or Lenovo and the other companies who took over that part of IBM. I don't think IBM had any stake in the station. More extreme was Redcar British Steel station, where the station was within the grounds of the steel works.
I used to work in a furniture assembly plant on Purley Way at the end of the 80s (my first job out of school). A bunch of fellow workmates and I spent one afternoon exploring the abandoned power plant after work. That whole site used to be a dump.
Here in Cologne, there's a light rail stop called IKEA as well. But then, IKEA (and some more companies in the surrounding commercial areas) collaborated with the tram company to help financing the extension of an existing line to the store and a bit further.
Here in Bielefeld (if you believe it exists) we have a bus stop called IKEA serving the 123 IKEA bus from a tram stop to the IKEA car park. It stops me buying too much at IKEA.
To be fair; "Ikea" sounds like an expression bus passengers in yorkshire or somewhere with a similar accent might use if the bell was broken. "Ikea~ Druverrh!"
'But I digress', and in so doing you have crammed an amazing amount of historic information into a four minute video. Now we know where you go for lunch :)
Purley Way, the great Croydon industrial complex. My dad worked there in the 1950s and for me, before emigrating in 1968, it was always the Croydon Bypass down south of Purley from Thornton Heath Pond. So long ago, still as clear as day...and, of course, the West Croydon-Wimbledon train line through the murky mists and coal laden sidings of those gas works and power stations to which you refer.
Man, I did always wonder why this stop was called that. Being the former site of a power station - so obvious in hindsight lol. I'm glad those chimneys were kept. Great video!
Bus Line 168 ends in "Old Kent Road Tesco". Not sure if you would count that as an advert :) Since that happens to be the last stop, the bus travel through Central London with "Tesco" as its destination.
I remember the old 2 car train from Wimbledon to west Croydon. We went for rides on it as kids and we went really close to those cooling towers.Croydon has bad memories for me cos back in the late 60s the sewage works broke down and the stink was unbelievable. The sludge had to be loaded onto massive lorries and sent to god knows where but if you were unlucky enough to be near when one went passed the odor was incredible. Also Croydon is home to Lunar House, that unhappy outstation of the Home Office where queues maybe a quarter mile long would form for applications. I went with a friend and was in the queue for 8 hours.
I read the title as meaning Brazil the country not Brazil the movie. Born and bred in the former and (in maturity) a fan of the latter, I was pleased to learn the actual location of a terrifying movie scene and also relieved the land escaped unscathed from more unfavourable commentary -- particularly the day after candidate Biden threatened us with economic oblivion unless we stop tearing the Amazon forest apart (which we're just not doing). Absolutely love your channel.
I remember it being called IKEA Ampere Way. Although you say you are not a fan of sponsored names, which i also agree with you. Further down the tram stops is a place called Reeves Corner, which also has a nice little story.
Hi Jago, You went to Croydon but forgot to mention the " Payne's Poppets" Factory! It was a bit of a landmark on Croydon Road and Payne's used to produce "Poppets" and "Just Brazils" which would go nicely with a glass of Tizer! You could eat " Just Brazils" whilst watch " Brazil" I guess.
Excellent stuff once again. I used to live in central Croydon and still live within the borough of Croydon, and delight in telling people that Robert de Niro filmed there. I am sure his visit to Croydon rates among the highspots of his life and career. Brazil is a work of genius in my estimation.
Got that tram everyday for a month before moving closer to my job. Horrible in the morning. Pushed in shoulder to shoulder, and had trouble getting out before the doors closed. Just another thing that needs funding...
Got to say I’m loving all these south east London videos. Just watched the Hayes Jubilee line video and it was spot on. Can I suggest a video on the pneumatic railway built and lost in Crystal Palace in the 1800s 👍🏼 there’s not much information out there on the topic
"and now this sight of horror and torment is an ikea " Still torment, just in a different form. Just thinking about that endless maze of a store hurts my brain.
Always witty, Jago. As a Croydon boy now living in San Francisco, your tales about the history of the tram stops are very fascinating. Have you done a video on whatever happened to Croydon Central? Or to Addiscombe - two termini in the Borough that have gone for ever. Perhaps you could openly announce that your wider subject is the entire history of railways in the greater London area. Lots more material there. And... whatever happened to Bull and Bush station?
One of my offices used to be in Beddington Farm - just off Purley Way. I can say in complete honesty, that Croydon is the most depressing, godforesaken place that I've ever visited. It's truly woeful - I used to be depressed just driving to it.
Historic maps show a very large network of railway tracks in the area. I have read that it had its own electric locomotives powered by overhead wires which makes it an oddity in the third rail based Southern Region. I once saw an old LP record of steam engine sounds and it included a track (😬) of coal trucks being unloaded at Croydon B. Perhaps the strangest piece of local history is Waddon Isolation Hospital which ended up nestled between the main railway line and the junction of the industrial sidings. It must have been a strange place to be at.
Well, of course, there has been a "company" named tube station in London since 1932 that no one seems to have a problem with - Arsenal. And you could argue that all stations, old and new, bearing the names of all sorts of commercial premises are advertising e.g. factories, events venues, sports facilities, airports.
A movie set? Maybe at some point in the future the site will host a performance by Circuit du Soleil. As far as "Tales from the Tube..." The trams are sort of round, they're hollow... they count as a tube (lowercase) in my book. On the naming rights thing--think how fun it would be to have a station sponsored by "Next" clothing (yes, I had to look that up), and listen to the train announcements say, "The next station is... Next... Station...."
my issue with corporate naming of public buildings and infrastructure is the confusion caused when the corporate deal ends at one location but reappears a bit later at a different location. Or if the corporate name is used on multiple locations at same time
Have you thought about bus interconnections? Newberry Park has a Grade II building and a rather nice Festival of Britain plaque, obviously installed many years ago if not at the time. You can also get change between travel modes. Who would have thought of that? Planning even. Arnos Grove and better still Southgate show how it was done in the 30’s (?). Nearby estates laid out by the local authority and sold to small builders. Planning even! Southgate Station needs a bit of attention, but still intact. Keep up the good work. I have walked some of your routes, Trinity House Wharf next when it looks dry.
I signed a petition to save those chimneys! I do sometimes go to that Ikea but partly because going by tram is the treat, not the meatballs. I'm also less likely to load up on Swedish tat if I have to carry it back on public transport.
I'd be happy with a revolving restaurant, but different to what you're thinking... I'd have a cog/motor on each chimney, with the restaurant between/atop them. Damn, I love Brazil!
Tizer, along with Cream Soda, was excellent with ice cream in it. What is now called a Float. Something in the sugar content made the ice cream foam. Anyway it used to. The ice cream had to be Rossi’s from Westcliff-on-Sea seafront.
The station formerly known as Patterson on Philadelphia’s Broad Street Subway has had two sponsors in the past few years. First it was AT&T Station, now NRG Station. The annoying bit about that fact is it’s the line’s southern most stop and the site of the city’s major sports stadiums, so the name has to be on every destination sign and directional sign. We up here in NYC have only one deal at the moment... which weirdly is for a sports team’s building. The owners of the Barclays Center had to pay to get thier name added to the nearby subway station.
It is ironic. Iconically, that whenever I am forced into an IKEA, I feel as if I have been transported into a Gilliam film, if not Brazil itself. Escape is only possible if you follow The Path.
RE: The Sponsorship of Tram stops ,The Manchester Metrolink Station that serves Manchester City's Ethiad Stadium is called Ethiad Campus !! The Ethiad people sponsored the tram stop for a considerable amount of money, on a long term arrangement, What is it about Airlines from the UAE That insist on sponsoring every stadium they can get there hands on. Even the Home of Lancashire Cricket club is named Emirates Old Trafford, Thankfully the Tram stop next to it is still Old Trafford. Of Course It also serves Manchester Utds stadium as well, I would suggest Preparation H Haemorrhoids cream would be the ideal sponsor for that paticular Location. !!
lol, 'Ikea Ampere Way' that reminds me of a mall near my house called Mid Valley. See, it's quite near a commuter line and so the railway, due to the mall's popularity decided to open a station so people can get there by train and they called it *drum roll* MID VALLEY! However, despite being a relatively new station, it retains some British colonial features like other older stations along the line...
One of the residential streets built since the power station was demolished was even named ‘Brazil Close’ to commemorate the fact the film was made there.
@@JagoHazzard It’s only a small little cul-de-sac. Though I’ve just had a look on Google Street View, and it appears to be an industrial street, not a residential street. Apologies for the error!
We have at the Middleton Railway, Leeds, one of the Croydon Power Station Steam Locomotoves on Display, . Mirvale.jpg. 2103, 0-4-0ST, Peckett and Sons, Originally worked at B. 2105 was purchased by a Quainton Railway Society member and is at the Buckinhamshire Railway Centre so operated over ex Metropolitan Line Metals, 2104 has been at the Northamptoon and Lamport Rialway since 1989
You mention Croydon Airport and I do think it would merit your attention as it was the site of the first London Airport. And the second - Croydon's "new" airport opened in 1928. This airport saw the development of radio-based air traffic control techniques, which formed the basis from which modern worldwide techniques evolved. And it was called "London" airport. Over to you.
Fabulous. I love all these facts and opinions too. I have no idea why I have never set foot in croydon. No idea why. No exactly sure where it is. Near Wimbledon?
When I was a child I visited the gas works opposite the power station. We stood on top of the ovens and I have to say I was terrified when a lid was raised and more coal from a hopper was dropped in. Naturally you can visit the site of the old watercress beds around the corner in Beddington and Carshalton Ponds (more Wandle stuff) and visit Honeywood Lodge which is brilliant.
I like it that you also post videos about other modes of public transport. Whether you call it "Tales from the Tube"," Tales from the Trams" or anything else, doesn't really matter that much to me.
Talking of sponsorship on the Tube, wasn't Gillespie Road, on the Piccadilly Line, re-named 'Arsenal' because of the nearby soccer ground of 'Woolwich Arsenal'?
Stations on the Dubai metro have both a name and a number. This is because a large number of the stations are sponsored by local companies, and during that period the station bears the company’s name. But of course the sponsorship, and thus the name, can change; hence, knowing the number of the station you want is potentially more useful than knowing its name. I was unable, ever, to get hold of a hard-copy system map, presumably because it’ll be out-of-date quickly.
Had to google what the area used to look like with the power station there. The area is almost unrecognisable if it wasn't for the power stations towers.
I'm fine with sponsorship of stations... It's a source of revenue to the company and also, the one time I saw it happen here in Portugal, the sponsor improved the station. Was the Chiado Metro Station in Lisbon.
I was nodding along with you when you said about not having sponsored names for stops. Then I remembered that our local bus stops are sometimes the nearest pub's name. I can even think of a bus stop changing its name because the pub did. I have no problem with the pub names, but do with the likes of IKEA, argh. Cheers 🍻
Supposed that's slightly different, also port sunlight and bournville, the model villages built literally for the factories and the brand, their is more but these 2 stand out as a couple visited this on a certain UA-cam channel
Just realised that I am one of a lost generation. Those who where born and lived in Croydon after the trams ended in 1952 but who moved away before they were re-introduced in 2000. The generation that never knew Croydon with trams!
I was raised and have since escaped, from the quasi-benign geographical canker called Croydon in Victoria , Australia. Do I see parallels? Oh, and my all time favorite movie is Brazil.. .I may have to visit
Glad to say James Clerk Maxwell memorialised - his contribution to electromagnetism and other branches of physics was huge, and he does tend to be a bit overshadowed by Albert Einstein, even though Maxwell's findings were essential for the theory of special relativity (look it up in various online places!).
I agree that it seems wrong to name stations after commercial enterprises, but on the other hand it's commonplace to name bus stops after pubs or supermarkets!
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Never stop digressing. The fact that Trojan the record label was named after the defunct car company is exactly the kind of useful information one wants in a film of the London underground.
Agreed... I'm all in favour of digression. Something I share with my father who was a toolmaker who served his apprenticeship at Chatham Dockyard which was where HMS Victory was built which famously....
Naming a record label for a defunct car company, Does anyone do a Double(Barrel) Take on that idea?.....I-i-i-....am the magnificent......!
Duke Reid's Trojan van, that he used to carry his gear with, in Jamaica, and was signwritten with:
"Duke Reid - The Trojan King Of Sounds".
Some Trojan vans had a third headlight in the centre of the radiator grille. I have a friend who has a phobia about freestanding chimneys, so thanks to you, I can now advise him to give this Croydon industrial estate a wide swerve. Also, Ikea. Worth a swerve in anyone's books. Two Allen keys and no bloody bolts! (Sorry, painful flashback there).
Some of their cars were made in Kingston (Surrey, not Jamaica) on the site that later became a Hawker Siddley factory. Always seemed odd to make planes in a place without a runway.
@@brianartillery I'm not sure if a phobia of free standing chimberlies is more or less bizarre than my phobia of price stickers or a friend's phobia of file dividers.
Well... Phobia does mean an *irrational* fear I suppose so your irrational fear might as well be completely irrational.
I suppose those chimneys are a sort of tube.....
You're clutching at straws! 🤣 Which, coincidentally are sort of a tube too.... 😉
@@sabinebogensperger1928 Pipe down you two !!
He should do a Brickworks next :D .
@@stephenpegum9776 That's a bit of a cheek, you piping up to tell them to pipe down!
@@turbo.panther No not at all - it was just another example of a tube !!
I'm with you on commercial names on stations. I don't want to say I'm 5 minutes from Ginsters sausage roll tube station.
Arsenal seem to have gotten away with it.
@@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts That's a local community thing (I believe a football team?).
I don't see how Emirates Air Line is a sponsorship deal. Emirates are a demonym of people from the UAE. I suppose yes formally there is an airline called Emirates, but most folks I know refer to them as BA - Bling Air! 🤣
@@marvintpandroid2213 Gillespie Road was changed to Arsenal by request of the club, something that cheesed off the other North London team
@@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts Although the others can't complain too much since they have White Hart Lane on the Enfield Loop
I live in Gothenburg, Sweden, and my closest tram stop is named "SKF", after the company who invented the modern ball bearing in 1907. They used to have their head office here, but now they've moved 200m south, across the small river. I have never ever thought about how weird it is that a tram stop is named after a company before your video, and now I cant stop thinking about it!
"Ampere Way", is that the "current" name? "Watt" might replace it? Sorry, I couldn't "resist" asking.....! Okay, I'll go "ohm" now!
AC what you did there
@@cargy930 I do so get a "charge" out of these puns.
You're definitely a bright spark
@@cargy930 At least these puns aren't too re-Volt-ing!
I don't have the "capacity" to "generate" a a decent Pun which will not " polarize" opinion.
"That's a lot of meatballs", "... and now this site of horror and terror is an IKEA." Dry British humour, then taken through a de-humidifier at it's best. Made me chuckle.
That's a lot of meatballs
But they relented
Mamma mia!
There is a station in Clydebank called Singer.
It was named after the Singer Sewing Machine Factory which was enormous and for a time one of the biggest employers in the area, the factory and the company are long gone but the Station is still called Singer.
I'm from Croydon and seeing all this stuff around Valley Park was oddly nostalgic for me
There was once a rumor that the Statue of Liberty would be getting a corporate sponsor. I could just imagine if Tampax had gotten the contract....
"And now this site of horror and torment is an IKEA. Funny, that..." 😁
That's why I fear Ikea, I won't go there again. I don't want a bookcase called Billy. Or a table called Sven (The Lancashire Hotpots)
I felt that. Last time i went to an Ikea we went to get a bed for our son. We came out three hours later with £100 of cushions and no bed.
There has to be some element of torture whilst meandering your merry way through IKEA
@@barneypaws4883 And that's just looking for the exit!
The one-way circuit to hell or the other other other circle line...
I see “takes from
The tube” as a name that just conveys “trails from London”
I REALLY enjoy your informational videos of various factors of london that you don’t usually see!
You could have a separate Tales from the Tram playlist that connects with Tales from the Tube at Wimbledon.
IKEA Ampere Way...strange name for a station...sounds like some new electronic device. Here in Chicago, it's possible to go to MARS on one of our commuter rail lines. It should be Oak Park Avenue, but it's the stop adjacent to the Mars candy factory.
Cadburys factory used to have a station named Bourneville.
There is also a Mars,outside of Pittsburgh! NASA,would save a lot of money on exploration,as you'd only pay local fares,either on rail or bus! As to Ampere,there is one in New Jersey,formerly on a trolley route,now a bus route,and also on a rail station,(no subway,anywhere near,). There may be more,that is simply overlooked!
"Real Jamaican Ginger Cakes!?. They've never been anywhere near Jamaica!."
"Well what's that got to do with it?. We sell Mars Bars don't we?."
@@dessmith1387 At least that sounds like a place-name.
Ikea is an iconic landmark i love going here
That's the IKEA where I bought my beloved "Sladda" bicycle... and the same one I took it back to for a full refund, less than a year later. I didn't want a refund, but the bike was recalled on safety grounds.
(Sigh)
It was a smashing bike, with super colour matching luggage racks front and rear.
When I see those chimneys I don't think of sofas or bookcases, although we have had those too. I think of my bike, and how much I wish I still had it.
When I hear Sladda bikes, I immediately picture my old buddy we went to school with who bought one and then had it stolen not a week later. Never got it recovered.
As ever informing , entertaining and just a trace of your own values .
I do so enjoy your videos thank you
I wonder if you would ever do something about gasometer past and present as they are systematically disappearing
IKEA don’t sell bikes, they sell bike-shaped objects.
@@jslonisch I don't believe they sell bikes anymore. Interestingly, failures were actually very rare, and now anyone who held on to their "Sladda," instead of accepting their money back, could sell for twice what they paid for it.
And now this site of horror and torment is an IKEA."
- So nothing changed.
😂😂😂
@Rebel Historian Mine, too. I gave it the nickname "Hell", and my partner used to ask if we could drive to Hell. I would sit in the car, to avoid the hyperventilation that was brought on by going in, and just drove to the exit to pick her up when she phoned to say she was ready.
Am Swede I agree!
@@davidw1518 Hell is actually a small village in Norway.
It regularly freezes over.
Why are you weird for not wanting sponsorship of stations.?
For instance, who wants these?
MacDonald's Totten-Hamburger Court.
Google-Goodge Street
Strat-Ford Motors.
Amazon Amersham
Star-Bucks-Hurst Hill
London Microsoft City Airport
Emirates Greenwich Peninsula
No, wait a minute, that actually is a station!
If the Strathspey Railway wasn’t closed, we could have had Diageo Dailuaine Halt.
@@bourbonryescotch1 Hi there BRS.
OK. I looked up Strathspey Railway.
It's a steam service right?
There are 3 stations on line.
Aviemore, Boat of Garten and Broomhill.
Is this the line you mean?
@Reb Mordechai Hi Reb, the one you mentioned is the preserved one. The original one ran all the way to Dufftown and was closed in 1966. Dailuaine and Balmenach distilleries were connected to this railway. Noteworthy stations on this line are Craigellachie, Aberlour, Dailuaine Halt, Imperial Cottages Halt, Knockando, Ballindalloch. Too bad this line was axed, otherwise it would have been the nicest whisky trails by train.
@@bourbonryescotch1 Wow, Thank you for telling me about this. it sounds like a dream train whisky trail line. Perfect for those wishing to visit all the distilleries along the route without driving.
Please G-d, when this pandemic is finally over and we are all healthy with jobs....I think it would be a terrific idea to open this line again. I'm sure it would be profitable.
But they'd have to add a few stations.
Little Tipsy, Sloshed On-The-Whey, Pished Park, Blootered Burns, Hammered Halt, Sozzled Street, Trollied Trail, Plastered Place, Oot-Yet-Tree Junction.
IBM had its name adorning a station for 40 years (until 2018) in Spango Valley near Greenock, though the name outlasted IBM's activities, or Lenovo and the other companies who took over that part of IBM. I don't think IBM had any stake in the station.
More extreme was Redcar British Steel station, where the station was within the grounds of the steel works.
I used to work in a furniture assembly plant on Purley Way at the end of the 80s (my first job out of school). A bunch of fellow workmates and I spent one afternoon exploring the abandoned power plant after work. That whole site used to be a dump.
I love your sense of humour!
I also agree with you that tube and tram station names should not be sold for sponsorship.
When you pointed out about sponsored station names my mind went to a nearby station.
Centrale.
Not to be confused with that former US town, that was abandoned after underground coal fires rendered it uninhabitable.
Yes, that was really a crap decision, to let a shopping centre name its own tramstop.
@@InCAdocumentaries if we’re going off the logic used to name central then they should’ve named George street after alders
Here in Cologne, there's a light rail stop called IKEA as well. But then, IKEA (and some more companies in the surrounding commercial areas) collaborated with the tram company to help financing the extension of an existing line to the store and a bit further.
Same in Hamburg (Germany), there is a Bus Station called „Ikea“, which is, well, right on the Ikea parking lot.
Here in Bielefeld
(if you believe it exists)
we have a bus stop called IKEA
serving the 123 IKEA bus from
a tram stop to the IKEA car park.
It stops me buying too much at IKEA.
To be fair; "Ikea" sounds like an expression bus passengers in yorkshire or somewhere with a similar accent might use if the bell was broken.
"Ikea~ Druverrh!"
Soft imperialism 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
'But I digress', and in so doing you have crammed an amazing amount of historic information into a four minute video. Now we know where you go for lunch :)
Purley Way, the great Croydon industrial complex. My dad worked there in the 1950s and for me, before emigrating in 1968, it was always the Croydon Bypass down south of Purley from Thornton Heath Pond. So long ago, still as clear as day...and, of course, the West Croydon-Wimbledon train line through the murky mists and coal laden sidings of those gas works and power stations to which you refer.
Man, I did always wonder why this stop was called that. Being the former site of a power station - so obvious in hindsight lol. I'm glad those chimneys were kept.
Great video!
Bus Line 168 ends in "Old Kent Road Tesco". Not sure if you would count that as an advert :)
Since that happens to be the last stop, the bus travel through Central London with "Tesco" as its destination.
I remember the old 2 car train from Wimbledon to west Croydon. We went for rides on it as kids and we went really close to those cooling towers.Croydon has bad memories for me cos back in the late 60s the sewage works broke down and the stink was unbelievable. The sludge had to be loaded onto massive lorries and sent to god knows where but if you were unlucky enough to be near when one went passed the odor was incredible. Also Croydon is home to Lunar House, that unhappy outstation of the Home Office where queues maybe a quarter mile long would form for applications. I went with a friend and was in the queue for 8 hours.
I read the title as meaning Brazil the country not Brazil the movie. Born and bred in the former and (in maturity) a fan of the latter, I was pleased to learn the actual location of a terrifying movie scene and also relieved the land escaped unscathed from more unfavourable commentary -- particularly the day after candidate Biden threatened us with economic oblivion unless we stop tearing the Amazon forest apart (which we're just not doing). Absolutely love your channel.
I remember it being called IKEA Ampere Way. Although you say you are not a fan of sponsored names, which i also agree with you. Further down the tram stops is a place called Reeves Corner, which also has a nice little story.
We have an Ampere Way in Newark, NJ too. Think it had something to do with Edison businesses nearby.
Hi Jago, You went to Croydon but forgot to mention the " Payne's Poppets" Factory! It was a bit of a landmark on Croydon Road and Payne's used to produce "Poppets" and "Just Brazils" which would go nicely with a glass of Tizer! You could eat " Just Brazils" whilst watch " Brazil" I guess.
Excellent stuff once again. I used to live in central Croydon and still live within the borough of Croydon, and delight in telling people that Robert de Niro filmed there.
I am sure his visit to Croydon rates among the highspots of his life and career.
Brazil is a work of genius in my estimation.
It’s definitely my kind of movie. Treading the line between hilarity and horror expertly.
There's an IBM station on the Glasgow to Wemyys Bay line.
In Munich there's Siemenswerke station next to the Siemens factory.
Got that tram everyday for a month before moving closer to my job.
Horrible in the morning. Pushed in shoulder to shoulder, and had trouble getting out before the doors closed.
Just another thing that needs funding...
Got to say I’m loving all these south east London videos. Just watched the Hayes Jubilee line video and it was spot on. Can I suggest a video on the pneumatic railway built and lost in Crystal Palace in the 1800s 👍🏼 there’s not much information out there on the topic
"and now this sight of horror and torment is an ikea " Still torment, just in a different form. Just thinking about that endless maze of a store hurts my brain.
Always witty, Jago. As a Croydon boy now living in San Francisco, your tales about the history of the tram stops are very fascinating. Have you done a video on whatever happened to Croydon Central? Or to Addiscombe - two termini in the Borough that have gone for ever. Perhaps you could openly announce that your wider subject is the entire history of railways in the greater London area. Lots more material there. And... whatever happened to Bull and Bush station?
One of my offices used to be in Beddington Farm - just off Purley Way. I can say in complete honesty, that Croydon is the most depressing, godforesaken place that I've ever visited. It's truly woeful - I used to be depressed just driving to it.
It's weird but I get the feeling of being in a kind of limbo when I'm there.
Great video, one of your best. Trams, Ikea, Tizer, Trojan cars and Terry Gilliam all in 4 minutes!
Been going there and through that tram spot for my whole life. Great to learn about it. I concussed myself on one of those lampposts near the stop
I agree with the earlier request not to stop digressing. It is always interesting
Love your videos! Would love to see more about Raynes Park or Wimbledon Chase
Historic maps show a very large network of railway tracks in the area. I have read that it had its own electric locomotives powered by overhead wires which makes it an oddity in the third rail based Southern Region. I once saw an old LP record of steam engine sounds and it included a track (😬) of coal trucks being unloaded at Croydon B.
Perhaps the strangest piece of local history is Waddon Isolation Hospital which ended up nestled between the main railway line and the junction of the industrial sidings. It must have been a strange place to be at.
Its nice to see the trams, we don't have them in outer west London.
You didnt want them
@@highpath4776 I did not realise that, I personally think trams are great
I love going on them when I am abroad.
Well, of course, there has been a "company" named tube station in London since 1932 that no one seems to have a problem with - Arsenal.
And you could argue that all stations, old and new, bearing the names of all sorts of commercial premises are advertising e.g. factories, events venues, sports facilities, airports.
Thanks for the Brazil trivia at the end!
The ladder to nowhere in that steel structure is my literal worst nightmare.
There is a service road around the back of Ikea named Brazil Way - after the film.
There also used to be the Payne's Poppets factory not too far away up until 2001
you'd hate the Kuala Lumpur monorail... it's literal sponsor paradise - or hell...
Great video jago, very interesting story, nice to see the chimneys still standing 👌👍😀
A movie set? Maybe at some point in the future the site will host a performance by Circuit du Soleil. As far as "Tales from the Tube..." The trams are sort of round, they're hollow... they count as a tube (lowercase) in my book. On the naming rights thing--think how fun it would be to have a station sponsored by "Next" clothing (yes, I had to look that up), and listen to the train announcements say, "The next station is... Next... Station...."
Thanks mate keep safe, Dave
my issue with corporate naming of public buildings and infrastructure is the confusion caused when the corporate deal ends at one location but reappears a bit later at a different location. Or if the corporate name is used on multiple locations at same time
Canary Wharf station was a filming location for Star Wars Rogue One.
Have you thought about bus interconnections? Newberry Park has a Grade II building and a rather nice Festival of Britain plaque, obviously installed many years ago if not at the time. You can also get change between travel modes. Who would have thought of that? Planning even. Arnos Grove and better still Southgate show how it was done in the 30’s (?). Nearby estates laid out by the local authority and sold to small builders. Planning even! Southgate Station needs a bit of attention, but still intact. Keep up the good work. I have walked some of your routes, Trinity House Wharf next when it looks dry.
That was a nice surprise to wake up to. Nice to see a Tale on part on the network I've used
I just about remember a bubble-car! Very strange to get into the car via the windscreen!
I signed a petition to save those chimneys! I do sometimes go to that Ikea but partly because going by tram is the treat, not the meatballs. I'm also less likely to load up on Swedish tat if I have to carry it back on public transport.
Thanks for new video Jago .
I'd be happy with a revolving restaurant, but different to what you're thinking...
I'd have a cog/motor on each chimney, with the restaurant between/atop them.
Damn, I love Brazil!
Witty and informed as ever. Enjoyable video
Thanks!
Tizer, along with Cream Soda, was excellent with ice cream in it. What is now called a Float. Something in the sugar content made the ice cream foam. Anyway it used to. The ice cream had to be Rossi’s from Westcliff-on-Sea seafront.
The station formerly known as Patterson on Philadelphia’s Broad Street Subway has had two sponsors in the past few years. First it was AT&T Station, now NRG Station.
The annoying bit about that fact is it’s the line’s southern most stop and the site of the city’s major sports stadiums, so the name has to be on every destination sign and directional sign.
We up here in NYC have only one deal at the moment... which weirdly is for a sports team’s building. The owners of the Barclays Center had to pay to get thier name added to the nearby subway station.
Tales from the tram. Keep em coming!
It is ironic. Iconically, that whenever I am forced into an IKEA, I feel as if I have been transported into a Gilliam film, if not Brazil itself. Escape is only possible if you follow The Path.
Brilliant episode. 👍🏻
Thank you!
RE: The Sponsorship of Tram stops ,The Manchester Metrolink Station that serves Manchester City's Ethiad Stadium is called Ethiad Campus !! The Ethiad people sponsored the tram stop for a considerable amount of money, on a long term arrangement, What is it about Airlines from the UAE That insist on sponsoring every stadium they can get there hands on. Even the Home of Lancashire Cricket club is named Emirates Old Trafford, Thankfully the Tram stop next to it is still Old Trafford. Of Course It also serves Manchester Utds stadium as well, I would suggest Preparation H Haemorrhoids cream would be the ideal sponsor for that paticular Location. !!
lol, 'Ikea Ampere Way' that reminds me of a mall near my house called Mid Valley. See, it's quite near a commuter line and so the railway, due to the mall's popularity decided to open a station so people can get there by train and they called it *drum roll* MID VALLEY! However, despite being a relatively new station, it retains some British colonial features like other older stations along the line...
I live near the ikea towers as we call them. Love your channel, very interesting!
Brilliant as always!
One of the residential streets built since the power station was demolished was even named ‘Brazil Close’ to commemorate the fact the film was made there.
I didn’t know that, I’ll have to look it out!
@@JagoHazzard It’s only a small little cul-de-sac. Though I’ve just had a look on Google Street View, and it appears to be an industrial street, not a residential street. Apologies for the error!
We have at the Middleton Railway, Leeds, one of the Croydon Power Station Steam Locomotoves on Display, . Mirvale.jpg. 2103, 0-4-0ST, Peckett and Sons, Originally worked at B. 2105 was purchased by a Quainton Railway Society member and is at the Buckinhamshire Railway Centre so operated over ex Metropolitan Line Metals, 2104 has been at the Northamptoon and Lamport Rialway since 1989
I love your videos and keep up the good work man and I like Croydon
You mention Croydon Airport and I do think it would merit your attention as it was the site of the first London Airport. And the second - Croydon's "new" airport opened in 1928. This airport saw the development of radio-based air traffic control techniques, which formed the basis from which modern worldwide techniques evolved. And it was called "London" airport. Over to you.
Fabulous. I love all these facts and opinions too. I have no idea why I have never set foot in croydon. No idea why. No exactly sure where it is. Near Wimbledon?
When I was a child I visited the gas works opposite the power station. We stood on top of the ovens and I have to say I was terrified when a lid was raised and more coal from a hopper was dropped in. Naturally you can visit the site of the old watercress beds around the corner in Beddington and Carshalton Ponds (more Wandle stuff) and visit Honeywood Lodge which is brilliant.
I notice that those street signs don't have the postcode district on them. Odd for London.
Not really london.
I like it that you also post videos about other modes of public transport. Whether you call it "Tales from the Tube"," Tales from the Trams" or anything else, doesn't really matter that much to me.
Talking of sponsorship on the Tube, wasn't Gillespie Road, on the Piccadilly Line, re-named 'Arsenal' because of the nearby soccer ground of 'Woolwich Arsenal'?
Stations on the Dubai metro have both a name and a number. This is because a large number of the stations are sponsored by local companies, and during that period the station bears the company’s name. But of course the sponsorship, and thus the name, can change; hence, knowing the number of the station you want is potentially more useful than knowing its name. I was unable, ever, to get hold of a hard-copy system map, presumably because it’ll be out-of-date quickly.
Could have done an about face and called it Volt Place?
The Twin Towers. Croydon is not quite Mordor. Great little video and very interesting.
Very interesting I love to hear the history of these places 😊
Had to google what the area used to look like with the power station there. The area is almost unrecognisable if it wasn't for the power stations towers.
I'm fine with sponsorship of stations... It's a source of revenue to the company and also, the one time I saw it happen here in Portugal, the sponsor improved the station.
Was the Chiado Metro Station in Lisbon.
I was nodding along with you when you said about not having sponsored names for stops. Then I remembered that our local bus stops are sometimes the nearest pub's name. I can even think of a bus stop changing its name because the pub did. I have no problem with the pub names, but do with the likes of IKEA, argh. Cheers 🍻
You won't like Singer station in Clydebank then, Jago. It is named after a long-gone sewing machine factory and it's the only name it has ever had.
Supposed that's slightly different, also port sunlight and bournville, the model villages built literally for the factories and the brand, their is more but these 2 stand out as a couple visited this on a certain UA-cam channel
@@Roblilley999 Ah, but Port Sunlight and Bourneville are the names of places, whereas there's no such place as Singer - it's Kilbowie!
But the only reason the town is named that way is from the company that built the town
@@Roblilley999 No, I've just explained that the town isn't called Singer, only the station. Nobody says 'I live in Singer'.
See also IBM Halt on the other side of the river
I once owned a model railway truck with two containers showing the IKEA brand. I wonder if companies sponsored models like this?
I love the old power station chimneys
Gret Video - How about doing Filming locations from Full Metal Jacket
I am planning a trip to Beckton at some point...
A brave sole, heading into Croydon.
It was quite nice when I was child just passing through but that was about 150 years ago! :-)
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Agreed best avoided.
One of the few people to make it out alive I hear some say
What's the fishing like?
Tales from the tram also has a nice ring to it :)
Brilliant video, as always. Though I find it a shame you didn't include any pictures of the powerstation from back in the day.
Just realised that I am one of a lost generation. Those who where born and lived in Croydon after the trams ended in 1952 but who moved away before they were re-introduced in 2000. The generation that never knew Croydon with trams!
I was raised and have since escaped, from the quasi-benign geographical canker called Croydon in Victoria , Australia. Do I see parallels? Oh, and my all time favorite movie is Brazil.. .I may have to visit
Great! It's been too long since I have seen Brazil and now want to see what my local IKEA used to look like
"And now this site of horror and torment... is an Ikea," has to be the most British sentence ever spoken.
Glad to say James Clerk Maxwell memorialised - his contribution to electromagnetism and other branches of physics was huge, and he does tend to be a bit overshadowed by Albert Einstein, even though Maxwell's findings were essential for the theory of special relativity (look it up in various online places!).
How can one UA-cam channel be so good
Thank you!
I agree that it seems wrong to name stations after commercial enterprises, but on the other hand it's commonplace to name bus stops after pubs or supermarkets!