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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  4 місяці тому +32

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    • @gabrielraveleau1798
      @gabrielraveleau1798 4 місяці тому

      Love your vids man keep it up !

    • @trumanhw
      @trumanhw 4 місяці тому

      excellent video.

    • @StEvEn-dp1ri
      @StEvEn-dp1ri 4 місяці тому

      You should've gone vertical again. You were doing that the entire engagement and then you didn't. I know it was in it's second burn phase, but a vertical recommit probably would have defeated it. I'm just brooding over the jump scare, that I was not expecting.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 4 місяці тому +1

      Please fly The F-15EX with AIM-260's VS The MIG-31 with R-37M's!
      Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM!

    • @violet4576
      @violet4576 4 місяці тому

      a cool video would be F22 and YF23 vs SU57 and J20

  • @PapaPilot88
    @PapaPilot88 4 місяці тому +831

    First jump scare of 2024 😂

    • @michealnyers184
      @michealnyers184 4 місяці тому +27

      I swear I jumped out of my seat haha

    • @jameswilliams1085
      @jameswilliams1085 4 місяці тому +9

      Totally!!!! Hahahahaha

    • @TJ_Loves2fish
      @TJ_Loves2fish 4 місяці тому +17

      Almost made me fall off my treadmill😂

    • @wolfofmagdalene92
      @wolfofmagdalene92 4 місяці тому +27

      Ikr! I swear it always gets me the first time when GS is like "Yeah we should be good I think we lost -tra-..."

    • @chrispowell6992
      @chrispowell6992 4 місяці тому +11

      Same!!! Scared the livin 💩 out of me! 😅

  • @arrtemfly
    @arrtemfly 4 місяці тому +569

    someone needs to count what % of those "we probably beat the missile" at the end of the video end up in a shot down 😁😁

    • @nicholaswilson9724
      @nicholaswilson9724 4 місяці тому +101

      If GS says his opponent's missile is very dangerous AND then says "I think I'm safe/beat the missile", you know the screen is about to go black ;)

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 4 місяці тому +12

      The mutual kill view from the mig crash site...

    • @dystopianlucidity4448
      @dystopianlucidity4448 4 місяці тому +46

      You mean the missiles with confidence seeking technology?

    • @vandasaragosa
      @vandasaragosa 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@nicholaswilson9724agree 😂 his self confident kill him many times, but I love him 😂

    • @srellison561
      @srellison561 4 місяці тому +13

      That's actually the first time one of his KIAs made me jump.

  • @Fatallydisorganized
    @Fatallydisorganized 4 місяці тому +292

    That death jump scared me so hard.

  • @highlander723
    @highlander723 4 місяці тому +99

    9:39
    "You hear the silence of the RWR so it's probably lost track"..... DO'H

    • @itz_joyyy
      @itz_joyyy 4 місяці тому +7

      Rwr to GS : I'm not beeping cause it's too late for you bud to give a beeping sound RIP 😂😂

    • @fdel7032
      @fdel7032 3 місяці тому

      RWR praying in silence.

    • @SSFFRRJJ
      @SSFFRRJJ 3 місяці тому

      @@itz_joyyy😂😂

  • @intothewoods7649
    @intothewoods7649 4 місяці тому +149

    GrowlingSidewinder: I think I lost track let's chaff flares and swing side to side to defend.
    R77 MISSILE: THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS THE MISSILE KNOOOOOWS WHERE IT ISS

    • @algroyp3r
      @algroyp3r 4 місяці тому +2

      >posted it again award

  • @teddyballgame4823
    @teddyballgame4823 4 місяці тому +289

    The reason why the 4.5g overload limit is imposed is only for safety. The reason is that the MiG-25 could lose control and possibly enter a flat spin if it pulled more than 4.5g because the wingtips used to flex 70 cm from their original position at 5g+ caused aileron reversal.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 4 місяці тому +22

      So it can’t pull more than 4.5 G’s……….

    • @speedfiend74
      @speedfiend74 4 місяці тому +13

      @@Utubesuperstar smfh...it can but there is a risk.

    • @sixdegrees6434
      @sixdegrees6434 4 місяці тому +19

      What’s the point you’re trying to make? The reason ANY aircraft has a g limit is for safety. Either the pilot blacks out or the wings fall off

    • @noname_exe
      @noname_exe 4 місяці тому +29

      @@Utubesuperstar one mig-25 pulled more than 11 once.obviously it got scrapped but the 4.5g limit isn't some hard imposed limit by jesus himself or smth. It can pull more if the situation demands it. Still dogshit at dogfights tho tbf

    • @challenger2205
      @challenger2205 4 місяці тому

      Dude, that’s like more than 180 tons of force pushing onto the wing spines. What kind of steel did they use to make that thing……

  • @martigamez6732
    @martigamez6732 4 місяці тому +207

    Interesting to see how the missile conveniently starts its engine again when it loses energy nearby the moving target

    • @sebastiaomendonca1477
      @sebastiaomendonca1477 4 місяці тому +89

      Thats why the double motor thing is so deadly

    • @90whatever
      @90whatever 4 місяці тому +24

      Our new AIM 260 will have that feature as well

    • @Trades46
      @Trades46 4 місяці тому +17

      The Chinese PL15 does this. Probably why it outranges the AIM-120D and so scary.

    • @adrianwilliams8278
      @adrianwilliams8278 4 місяці тому +10

      Them R77M's😅

    • @Godsjudgement12
      @Godsjudgement12 4 місяці тому +5

      russian wunderwaffe

  • @HypoceeYT
    @HypoceeYT 4 місяці тому +33

    That last shot with the zoom/dolly to eventually bring in the missile was so well-paced and such a cute piece of cinematography. I expect to see it in a sci-fi movie or show someday.

    • @jimkenealy6448
      @jimkenealy6448 4 місяці тому

      Bingo shot! so cool to see the AMRAM creep into view top corner bearing down on Foxbat - chops to the video editor for that sequence.

    • @nercksrule
      @nercksrule 3 місяці тому +1

      The Expanse has several scenes of space combat where the camera follows the torpedoes all the way to the target.

  • @murph3194
    @murph3194 4 місяці тому +32

    Man the R77 variant is scary. And I assure you all I'm not a hater but it always makes me laugh when we hear "ok I think we're safe from that missile so I'm going to..." BLAM! lol Great vid as always.

  • @The_Ren
    @The_Ren 4 місяці тому +46

    I’m always amazed at how much that little single engine F-16 can carry and still do solid work.

    • @chrisbird1052
      @chrisbird1052 4 місяці тому +6

      Not very little, the engine takes the up the entire back half of the fuselage and it's about 4ft in diameter, but yes very impressive the thrust that thing puts out

  • @dgfgts
    @dgfgts 4 місяці тому +5

    That last R77M: "So you think you're outrunning me?"

  • @McRogson
    @McRogson 4 місяці тому +30

    I would love to see you fly the Mig 25, modernised or original, see how you go about it.

  • @davidsapir3764
    @davidsapir3764 4 місяці тому +42

    I hit "like" before I even start watching, this is such incredible content. Thanks GS.

  • @molokofreak
    @molokofreak 4 місяці тому +11

    0:55 nice carpet

    • @ConnorGadson
      @ConnorGadson 4 місяці тому +4

      Did kinda look like a fur rug

  • @coastiebrian2024
    @coastiebrian2024 4 місяці тому +138

    A MIG-25 did shoot down a F/A-18 on the 1st night of Desert Storm. Other pilots saw the MIG and requested permission to engage, but the E-3 AWACS operator denied the request, so they left it alone, only to lose a fellow pilot.

    • @sexyitalian891
      @sexyitalian891 4 місяці тому +59

      By the way you word it, it sounds a lot like you're saying the only reason it shot the F18 down was because of the Awacs operator. I don't know why Americans go to such lengths to blame everything else in order to save the illusion that their equipment is the best and the most special.

    • @stark5353
      @stark5353 4 місяці тому +59

      ​@@sexyitalian891 Nobody is claiming that the equipment is special tho. In this case a loss could have been prevented if ROE allowed the mig to be killed sooner.

    • @Gesso64
      @Gesso64 4 місяці тому +20

      @@sexyitalian891 Im not american but no where else in the world does over a trillion dollars go into the military.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 4 місяці тому +11

      @@sexyitalian891umm it is the 18 had a clear shot and the 25 capitalized on it having to wait…..

    • @traviswalker8933
      @traviswalker8933 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@Gesso64a lot of countries in the world allocate a large portion of their budget to the military. Just because spending is high, does not mean equipment will be great.

  • @barnhaardkraft875
    @barnhaardkraft875 4 місяці тому +10

    10:01 You forgot to set a Obi Wan "Hello There" by the Missile! 😁

  • @jamesh6406
    @jamesh6406 4 місяці тому +13

    Ok you've mentioned it twice. We need a Mig-25 Vs F5 vid.

  • @coz6908
    @coz6908 4 місяці тому +12

    Love the dedication. Even in death, he's still popping chaff and flares as his F-16 goes down in flames.

  • @terryritter7065
    @terryritter7065 4 місяці тому +5

    The last scene of the Foxbat hitting the ground and the smoke trail of the Viper in the distance was a nice touch.

  • @kosher4418
    @kosher4418 4 місяці тому +55

    For a foxbat, it would be best to perform a U-turn with a climb of speed, rather than descending to the ground

    • @Digi20
      @Digi20 4 місяці тому +7

      Not really in most situations. The F-16 (and many other jets) easily outperform the Mig-25 in terms of thrust/weight and initial climbing ability, and you dont climb with them either. Its almost always better tu run the missile out of energy in denser lower air.

    • @somubhai5882
      @somubhai5882 4 місяці тому

      Well its good bcz those rocket engines of foxbat can really put some huge thrust on but its not always good

    • @danielberger1378
      @danielberger1378 4 місяці тому +3

      As Digi20 already said, you should always go lower and drive the missile into denser air.
      The only thing you would "achieve" with an initial climb is decreasing your own energy and allowing the missile to keep its own energy up. The saying "go up to blow up" doesn't come from nowhere

  • @terrabolista
    @terrabolista 4 місяці тому +3

    So yeah, at this point whenever GS says "Okay, i think we defeated that missile", 100% the missile is going boom on this tail within 2 seconds. Great vid as always

  • @DDayJayke
    @DDayJayke 4 місяці тому +6

    Congrats GS. This is the first time that explosion effect you do, made me jump. I was not expecting that. Kudos

  • @assidragon
    @assidragon 4 місяці тому +57

    I'm a little amazed how handicapped the US fighters seem to be by their missiles. Meteor or the modern russian/chinese ones just seem more lethal at longer ranges than the AIM120.

    • @icaleinns6233
      @icaleinns6233 4 місяці тому +22

      that's why the AIM-260 is being developed. Not sure how close it is to a production status, but it should be on par with the Meteor and R-77M.

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 4 місяці тому +20

      Slavic and Chinese missiles don’t actually work and they’re meant to be launched from planes that don’t actually fly 😂

    • @seniorspaz8754
      @seniorspaz8754 4 місяці тому +13

      @@icaleinns6233While we likely won’t know for sure until they’re actually in deployment, the 260 is meant to already be in production.

    • @LooxJJ
      @LooxJJ 4 місяці тому +15

      @@icaleinns6233 We do not have full information on the AIM-120C~D yet. They are all classified. Data out in public are all estimates. But do assume that they are few levels above Russians counterparts (way more investment into R&D and access to much better tech and production).

    • @jacobdoolan4978
      @jacobdoolan4978 4 місяці тому +2

      @@LooxJJfrom what I understand there underpowered in range but better in track

  • @XelaFrxsty
    @XelaFrxsty 4 місяці тому +3

    Love your vids bro keep up the great work

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 4 місяці тому +16

    I honestly love the Foxbat and similar aircraft like it.

  • @th0rn3
    @th0rn3 4 місяці тому +6

    dude i fucking JUMPED at the end

  • @karls6234
    @karls6234 4 місяці тому

    Badass fight, thank you for posting this.

  • @jmtpolitico80
    @jmtpolitico80 4 місяці тому +6

    I kinda figured it was going to go one to one. At least you didn't lose! You tied! lol! Great flying though as usual...

  • @johnbrowning9753
    @johnbrowning9753 4 місяці тому +3

    Got me again, should always be expecting the jump scare.

  • @user-ws5zu8jt8c
    @user-ws5zu8jt8c 3 місяці тому

    Man this was such a good video. I've been struggling a lot with trying to hone my BVR tactics and something about this just made it click for me. I'm still bad (I was going to use another word but I think it's censored), but I feel like now I'm making better calls on when to commit and when to go defensive and my 50/50 is inching up steadily. Much appreciation.
    Or I think it's this: starting to take more into consideration what my action forces the opponent to do. And taking into consideration what the opponent wants me to do with their shots. Something just caused a substantial upwards turn in my success rate. I still get shot down all the time, but, after being on a plateau, now it's getting better.

  • @theheroweneededbutdidntdeserve
    @theheroweneededbutdidntdeserve 4 місяці тому +2

    It, in fact, did not loose track

  • @verfugbarkite
    @verfugbarkite 2 місяці тому

    Love the way he includes his prophetic last words- very humble of him.

  • @joelfrantz3189
    @joelfrantz3189 3 місяці тому +2

    Those R-77 missiles are freaking terrifying 🤯

  • @kangarutan1915
    @kangarutan1915 4 місяці тому +2

    I sxwear, those "I think I'm clear" missile kills always make me jump! Better than a horror flic!

  • @mortenBP
    @mortenBP 4 місяці тому

    GOD damn it, Maverick !
    The jumpscare every friggin time... and I should know that confidence line is a MF heads-up warning of what is about to happen.

  • @Gibbletman
    @Gibbletman 4 місяці тому +1

    Love the vids man keep it up

  • @cs512tr
    @cs512tr 3 місяці тому +1

    that R77 hunted you down like it was attached to a wire
    lol brilliant

  • @Matisaro
    @Matisaro 4 місяці тому +2

    Another one for the "I made it BOOM" reel!

  • @Shawn-wd4qd
    @Shawn-wd4qd 4 місяці тому +1

    9:35 Maverick said it best. “If you think up there you are dead”

  • @user-vp7kk5vf1v
    @user-vp7kk5vf1v 2 місяці тому

    Great mission design; very informative and entertaining.

  • @Michael_Michaels
    @Michael_Michaels 4 місяці тому +1

    9:39 Damn! That ending scared the shit out of me!!!

  • @rockstar11627
    @rockstar11627 4 місяці тому +1

    This channel is quickly becoming my favourite youtube channel

  • @Cornography1996
    @Cornography1996 3 місяці тому

    I appreciate the Sioux City Iowa ANG markings on that Viper!

  • @octopus92
    @octopus92 4 місяці тому +7

    That Russia's missile final thrust when approaching and closing the target is so dangerous. 😥😥😳

  • @Lopezs777
    @Lopezs777 4 місяці тому +5

    GS, I’d love to see you flying a MiG 25 in a video. It’s my all time fav Soviet jet 😎

  • @chipblood
    @chipblood 4 місяці тому +1

    I loved this fight. I like knowing that the older tech could be retrofitted to perform on the modern battlefield. Fights like this I can watch several times. Ever dive into tank warfare?

  • @worldbreaker1023
    @worldbreaker1023 4 місяці тому +1

    Scenematic tank drop! Well done

  • @wildifin
    @wildifin 4 місяці тому +5

    Everytime you say that "we probably beat the missile" it gets you 😂

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy 3 місяці тому

      I suspect he sometimes says it when he doesn't really believe it, just for this purpose.
      In this case the RWR didn't shut up, that's just how the F-16s RWR sounds, one warning every 10 or 15 seconds or something like that. I would imagine he knew that, and he knew he was about to be hit, so he just decided to have a little fun with that.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 4 місяці тому +2

    Idea for an interesting fight! You in The SU-30SM with R-27EA's VS The SU-35S with R-77M's!🙏👍

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 4 місяці тому +1

      Please fly The MIG-29K VS The SU-33 guns only!

  • @horusfalcon
    @horusfalcon 4 місяці тому +1

    Interesting outcome here. Looks kinda like, "Enter the MAR and dead you are!"

  • @Lospezdos
    @Lospezdos 4 місяці тому

    great shots at the end of the video

  • @willydstyle
    @willydstyle 4 місяці тому +5

    It's wild how much more modern the F-16 looks than the Mig-25 despite them being of a similar era.

    • @SplashJohn
      @SplashJohn 4 місяці тому +2

      Yep, the Mig looks like an American century-series from the 50's.

    • @mikedesanta4612
      @mikedesanta4612 3 місяці тому +3

      Mig 25 is 3rd gen. F16 is 4th gen.
      Almost 2 decades of developmental difference.

    • @funkbass1986
      @funkbass1986 3 місяці тому

      F-16 имеет меньший потолок, чем МиГ-25

  • @kugoxd1097
    @kugoxd1097 4 місяці тому +1

    "i think it lost track." famous last words

  • @guccidan2026
    @guccidan2026 4 місяці тому +4

    Go back to warbird content if you can. Or warbird vs early jets. Those were always interesting!

  • @Angl0sax0nknight
    @Angl0sax0nknight 4 місяці тому

    Loved the jump scare

  • @lonl123
    @lonl123 4 місяці тому

    This is a goddamn Horror Game! Caught me totally by surprise as I thought you had defeated the missile! Great Video!!!

  • @alexeyguskov8153
    @alexeyguskov8153 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video. Thanks

  • @m.searay4629
    @m.searay4629 4 місяці тому +1

    That was impressive.....despite the R-77M range advantage you almost pulled it off. Nice fight.

  • @tomsthomas1139
    @tomsthomas1139 4 місяці тому +1

    Happy to see real life weapons are starting to resemble their Saturday morning cartoon counterparts in capability.

  • @stormhawk31
    @stormhawk31 3 місяці тому

    Yup. Didn't expect that.

  • @frankleepower2333
    @frankleepower2333 4 місяці тому

    Simply MAD!

  • @bathakan
    @bathakan 3 місяці тому

    Damn good videos, i got chills😊

  • @SSFFRRJJ
    @SSFFRRJJ 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for the jumpscare

  • @LuisDiaz-fs8uh
    @LuisDiaz-fs8uh 4 місяці тому

    GS, one of the many things I have learned from you is RESPECT THE MAR!

  • @wilymcgee
    @wilymcgee 4 місяці тому

    bro
    that made me LOL FR!
    "lost track i think...."

  • @bedhunter
    @bedhunter 4 місяці тому

    Last camera shot was crazy. I though it was the acustomed celebratory shot. Nobody expected the AMRAAM suddenly appearing!

  • @hubble37
    @hubble37 4 місяці тому

    Wow, I didn't expect the final result of a mutual kill! Oh man being a fighter pilot can sometimes be bad news!

  • @justsomeguywithlasereyes9920
    @justsomeguywithlasereyes9920 4 місяці тому

    I was already expecting it the moment you said you were gonna be dangerously within the Foxbat's MAR.

  • @nathanchristensen824
    @nathanchristensen824 4 місяці тому

    Most impressive!

  • @Yaaasuko
    @Yaaasuko 4 місяці тому

    Would love to see you do a BVR engagement in the Foxbat/Foxhound. Willing to bet you would give it a good show of how lethal it can be in BVR.

  • @LifeChanger_._
    @LifeChanger_._ 4 місяці тому +1

    9:39 - Damn!
    11:00 - Cool!

  • @AnuViation
    @AnuViation 4 місяці тому +2

    Genuinely jumped in my chair when you got hit mid sentence.

  • @R4p70r26
    @R4p70r26 4 місяці тому

    "it probably lost track i think"
    famous last words
    GG

  • @bradbullock2473
    @bradbullock2473 4 місяці тому +1

    Every time he says "I think I beat it"BAMMM!

  • @StingyGeek
    @StingyGeek 3 місяці тому

    Jeez, that was brutal.

  • @rElliot09
    @rElliot09 4 місяці тому +1

    Never read anything about an Eagle almost being downed by a MiG-25 in 91. There was the Hornet loss to a Foxbat and in 1982, a MiG-21 nailed an F-15A with an Atoll but the Eagle made it back to fly again.

    • @Mike_Romeo
      @Mike_Romeo 4 місяці тому

      Read up the Samurra air battle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurra_Air_Battle

  • @esbuenodun
    @esbuenodun 4 місяці тому

    Literally yelped when he got hit. That's a scary missle man.

  • @justinabaya6622
    @justinabaya6622 4 місяці тому +2

    I watch these on the elliptical and those scare the F outta me every time lol

  • @ltjjenkins
    @ltjjenkins 4 місяці тому +1

    Be interesting to know how many battles end up just like this.
    Im sure thecair force knows.

  • @robertm8401
    @robertm8401 4 місяці тому

    Rocket motor still seemed to be burning to make that kind of maneuver to catch the Viper, damn.

  • @allanaitch204
    @allanaitch204 4 місяці тому

    Makes me jump every time!

  • @Stant123
    @Stant123 4 місяці тому +4

    It's good to see that even though it's a new year, some things haven't changed. RIP GS.

  • @aaardvaaark
    @aaardvaaark 4 місяці тому +1

    I almost jumped out of my own skin when that missile hit.

  • @classic9538
    @classic9538 4 місяці тому

    Would love to see you fly Mig-25, don't think that's been done before :)

  • @Takyodor2
    @Takyodor2 2 місяці тому +1

    "I think we beat it"
    🚀🎆🔥
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @u4ia_fubar_75
    @u4ia_fubar_75 4 місяці тому +1

    I wish you would do a video of Sea Harrier protection over the British fleet at the Falklands conflict 🤞
    My dad was there with the Royal Artillery so that's why I'm asking😎

  • @MedEighty
    @MedEighty 4 місяці тому

    09:35 As soon as he said that, I thought "oh, you just jinxed yourself".

  • @benrichey2593
    @benrichey2593 4 місяці тому

    Even though I brace myself every time GS says something like that, I still jumped 😂

  • @geeno_ms5233
    @geeno_ms5233 4 місяці тому

    holy shit i eated the first jump scare of 2024 with that R-77M, also the R-77M: "i know where i am at all times"

  • @migkiller49
    @migkiller49 4 місяці тому

    ...it's probably lost track, I think" 💥 I love it👍😂

  • @TheGoddamnBacon
    @TheGoddamnBacon 4 місяці тому +1

    Hot damn. Turns out those Wile-E Coyote missiles exist now.

  • @shehanp66
    @shehanp66 4 місяці тому

    " i think we beat it " i knew it was gonna hit when he said that

  • @schun0
    @schun0 4 місяці тому

    Yeahhhh definitely did not loose track...

  • @KevinMoriarty
    @KevinMoriarty 4 місяці тому

    that missile nearly killed me too Jesus wept

  • @theamericancommie727
    @theamericancommie727 4 місяці тому +1

    Day 1 of asking for An F-15C vs Eurofighter video would be interesting with Aim-120Ds and ECM. Videos like this makes me wonder what would happen if we used modern AMRAAMs and actually use Jamming EW to fight long range missiles

  • @natedetailscars
    @natedetailscars 4 місяці тому

    "It's cool I think we're safe n..." 💥

  • @jim69del
    @jim69del 4 місяці тому

    Awesome brother

  • @mikehunt5934
    @mikehunt5934 4 місяці тому

    Love it. "Yeah I dodged that mis..............

  • @seraphx26
    @seraphx26 4 місяці тому

    Doesn't matter how many times it happens it catches me by surprise every time.