It was drilled into our heads during boot camp not to abandon ship until the order to do so was given. You could be in the water watching the ship sailing away because damage control managed to save it and in all thet chaos no saw you or heard you go overboard. Stay with the ship and be prepared to abandon her only if she can't be saved!
I wont lie, I agree. Similar tips were taught to me growing up, especially utilizing trousers. The littlest things can save you if you know what to do!
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Poor 3rd world seacoast countries in Asia loose THOUSANDS of kids every year. I owned a scuba business in Vietnam , inevitably I had to recover at least 1 and as many as 5 kids bodies. I provided free swim training.
This is 2020, I am 46 and 20 years away from my army days, where I was a fireman. We had this technique to dress fast upon hearing the bell: Trousers placed above the boots, next to the bed, so as to put both the boots and trousers at the same time, upper clothes already one inside the other (t-shirt inside the pull over), so as to repeat the 2in1 operation of the boots and pants, all the necessary gear (in my case gloves and small set of metallic tools plus a lamp and other stuff) tucked together, by wrapping the gloves around them, the assemblage being latched to your belt. We gained up to a minute that way. Hope it will serve you someday.
jetaddicted Our Dad taught us something similar so as to be up and out of the house in 15 minutes. That was nine of us, seven kids, two adults. Yes, he was in the Navy. I still arrange my clothes, etc. the same way. btw, I’m 61.
I am a firefighter of several decades and arranged my clothes too with my pants able to drop both legs into simultaneously and pull them up. Outerwear bottom opening up to slide right on. Just like with turnout gear.
The Navy was still teaching these same survival techniques when I was in basic in the late '80s. I later taught my son "drownproofing" using the same techniques I had learned when he was 6.
Wow, so far I've learned how to resist enemy interogation, dead mans float, and how to defeat a tank with smoke bombs, and a log. Thanks, I'm sure all this will come in handy with lawn applications and tree injections....
One cannot, unfortunately resist enemy interrogation by mere video training and arguably - and that is something which is still not told these days yet, interrogation is not there to get information but to "get even" and give free flow to the suppressed stress of the enemy - where they will execute (it's a war crime btw) simply put the meekest and the most aggressive POW,being average is thus something one should strive for and being in the "crowd" as well, but survival in this case largely depends on luck. Lastly tactical information is not as valuable these days, and the low-level troop movement information is superceded by the widespread use of c2i2 systems at every level of command - the war in Ukraine soundly proves this, where the Ukrainian army is for all intents and purposes is fighting slaves and indentured servants, which what Russian army is due to the large state presence in the real estate and land business due to the progressive stagnation and collapse of their economy from 2014. Now don't get me wrong, slave militaries are sometimes efficient (Egyptian Mamluks, Ottoman Janissary corps etc.) in cases where one needs assault with an overwhelming force and short but extremely high attrition rate.
My late father was in the Navy 1942 - 1945. He was only 18 when he enlisted, right after Pearl Harbor. As a pharmacist's mate, one of his tasks was tending the rescued. The light oil and gas on the water caused the worst injuries. I'm sure he saw this film.
I love these old training films, they are informative and interesting, with a bit of sarcasm thrown in for good measure. When I was in the British military we had a selection of survival kit in a bag, “go kit” and even though I never needed it under such awful circumstances it was always useful to have during exercises and detachments, especially when going to a different country or base with limited access to “civilisation “ and being a true Brit, teabags, stock cubes, packet soup and of all things Tabasco sauce, it could mask the taste of any ration pack, (rat pack) meal, I think they are called MRE’s these days, of course things like a good knife, torch and mirror were in mine as well.so the advice given to the sailors etc in this film about packing essentials is as true today as it was back in WWII. thanks for sharing this interesting and informative video. 👍.
Your narrator, Mike Wallace enlisted in the United States Navy in 1943 and during World War II served as a communications officer on the USS Anthedon, a submarine tender. He saw no combat but travelled to Hawaii, Australia, and Subic Bay in the Philippines, then patrolling the South China Sea, the Philippine Sea and south of Japan. After being discharged in 1946, Wallace returned to Chicago.
It doesn't mention the fact that when in the water one of the most serious threats to your survival are your shipmates. When they are panicking- they'll drown you.
Coast Guard rescue swimmers train on this subject. And if they need to, they will slug the person in the face if necesary to keep them from grabbing them in a panick, to avoid them drowning them both.
This is a spare-the-hard-truth video in many ways than one, because considering it was a long war, it was important to tell the truth but also important to tell just enough and not too much of the truth to keep the morale up, but I do find it he further we advance the more emphasis on the negative consequences of incorrect action in all training (I've had chemical, radiological and electrical hazards in production environment training) and nowadays they do show and tell you what happens. Regulations are written in blood. Never go against them.
Actually the film does say that unless you're very well trained you should not make body contact with a struggling swimmer. It says to toss one end of your shirt to them and drag them.
@@IvanDmitriev1 Yeah, and compared to a lot of the other training videos, this one still feels like it'd be useful and relevant even today. It does throw in some tongue in cheek humor, but it mostly focuses on straight facts. Plus there's good logic in everything they say and no actor is pretending to be a lot happier or calmer than reality.
Interesting....when I went through Navy boot camp in 79, we were taught, and practiced, abandoning ship by stepping off the deck and over the side, pinching our nose with one hand and covering our rectum with the other. The object of covering both...orifices....was to prevent water from forcibly entering the respective body cavities and damaging internal bodily organs such as the colon, sinuses, etc. We were also taught NOT to wear our life jackets when going over the side. We were told to tie a loop in one of the life jackets strings and hold onto it. As it was explained to us, the sudden deceleration exerted on the spine caused by diving into water from an appreciable height while wearing a life jacket can break one's back or neck. We were also taught to always abandon ship on the WINDWARD side, so that the ship, acting like a sail, would be carried away from you by the wind and not into you if you abandoned on the leeward side.
It's interesting that you were told to protect your anus, not your balls. It seems to me that the former would be impenetrable with pants on, but the latter would be hurt by hitting the water from a great height.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful video. My father served as a sonar man aboard a minesweeper during WWII and came back without a scratch. God bless all who served. God bless the greatest generation.
How old is this training film ? They didn't have one more modern for you guys to watch ? At least you're still with us. Thank you for your service from one veteran to another.
I remember being told to keep boots on when going over the side to prevent injury. Also we were taught not wear an inflated jacket when junping as it could break you neck. The same applied to mae West type jackets.
It's tragic too.... thinking the only reason we need these men to go out to sea in the first place is because some other men are going out to sea to attack the land.
My father was a radar operator in WW Ii on DE338. Whenever he swam he used the breast stroke as it was drilled into him that it would push away debris and oil. It stayed with him forever
85%might be right for navy shipping but it ain't even close for merchant seamen, god rest their souls and all the little red lights no one could stop for.
Shame🤢🥵 I had a grandfather in law.., was a survivor seaman of the convoys....., he had most his face removed..., I only met him a few times...., and they told me that he hated the nazis for what he saw & heard from the other ships sinking...., 🥵 those fking red lights..... I was told that he was a tough tough guy..., but he got the impression that he was wreaked... I shouldn’t have watched....🌹
"Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces."
We were some of the last few to be issued the Bell bottom Dungarees before they switched to the straight leg gas station attended pants. The bell bottoms could save a sailor's life if overboard. They were easily removed without having to take off your boondockers 1st. You could then tie a knott in each pant leg and with a couple techniques the legs could be inflated and used as a flotation device. Same with the dungaree shirt. I never understood why they did away with the Bell bottoms. Still have one pair. edit: wrote this before I got to that part in the video.
Plus sharks aren’t that bad anyway. Most of the time, they only bite you because that’s the only way they can interact with the world. Think of it like a dog sniffing you or a baby poking you. Of course, that won’t help you when a great white bites your arm off, but still.
@@boss_boy_ Yeah most of the fear of Sharks primarily comes from pop culture movies like JAWS that actually lead to a large attack and fear mongering of sharks despite there being very few shark attacks and documented fatalities from them. If anything we're a far bigger threat to them than they are to us.
Hehe there are far more deadly fish than Sharks, in fact, Sharks are pretty docile compared to some other ocean dwelling fish. Sharks generally don't attack humans. it's only because of that stupid JAWS movie that people believe Sharks are a threat but most shark attacks tended to be from recreational swimmers far out to sea and really bad luck. the giant naval ship and explosions and weapons generally will scare the sharks away. WHALES though....might mess with you.
My hubby also said he was taught swim after abondon ship away..cuz suction of ship will pull u under..he said when u hit the oven hall ass don't watch....he said he had many abandon ship drill before he went in for that war 1990 ..
During the first part of the oil sequences I think they got leeward (away from the wind - so where the oil would be blown to) and windward (into the wind) backwards. Later they get it right. Otherwise this yacht sailor and student of history is impressed. There was a USN sailor who fell off an aircraft carrier in the 1980s who floated using his trousers for a couple of days until he was found.
My how the Navy changed from the time this film was made and the 1970's. The Navy didn't issue you a survival knife, fishing kit, or whistle. All you got was a foul weather jacket, the modern plastic version of the Mae West and an EEBD on your rack. Ships like destroyers and frigates had become weapons platforms and were not expected to survive the new missile era. Surprisingly enough the Damage Control training improved and the modern ships did survive extensive damage from missiles, mines and IED's with minimal casualties. USS Stark/USS Samuel B. Roberts/USS Cole
oh my husband had to jump off this super high diving board, made just to practice that jump with arms folded. Sadly, my husband is built to SINK, but he survived and graduated! However, we won't talk about the long swim....he passed.
"OK, listen up shipmates! These boys from Washington are creating a training film on how to abandon ship. Any volunteers? It will be fun and you'll get an extra $2 for the commissary." LATER: 15:38
Yeah volunteering is a bad move in any military. Especially if they say "It'll be fun" That's the line they used on my 17 yr old brother, when the SAS asked for volunteers to act at hostages for a training exersise. They said it'll be fun, he'll get to fly low level over Sydney harbour in a old Huey. A lot of the older guys told him not to do it, but the opportunity to go for a fly in a huey was too much. He said he should of listened. He spent the entire time blind folded and got thrown around like a rag doll. And spent the next few days nursing cuts and bruises.
I'd say the number one best way to avoid drowning at sea would be not to go to sea, especially not in a boat. However, everyone should know these techniques just in case they survive the plane crash. Respect to those who did go to see because, as you can tell from the beginning of this comment, I am of the opinion that doing so is quite dangerous in and of itself.
If I were the skipper of a ship, every man would carry a canteen, or two, of water when battle stations was sounded. The rest of the fleet would have made fun of us also, because the ship would have had extra water, rafts and rations strapped to the rails.
@@IntrepidYouth Good point. Filling 2 canteens per sailor would take a good portion of the freshwater. I'd say an expiration would have to be marked on the outside of the canteen using some type of erasable marker. The expiration or date to replace water in the canteens would probably depend on the weather or region being traveled. In moderate weather the water should be good for several weeks to a month, colder climates longer and tropical a couple of weeks at most.
(1) 17:35 What? No safety briefing for the proper way to use your head, especially while ducking underneath metal airplanes? Yeah, that's gonna hurt! Glad they left that gem in the film! (2) 9:30 The aircraft carrier U.S.S. Yorktown (CV-5) and destroyer U.S.S. Hammann (DD-412) were sunk from Japanese torpedoes, fired from submarine I-168. But when this film was produced in 1943, the Navy wasn't going to admit it.
Or survivors from USS Juneau, all ten of them, though they may have had some words to say about the fact that several days went by before the navy started looking for them.
i'm not convinced jumping is sound advice, unless the ship is on fire or about to explode. if the water is really cold, you could easily gasp and drown. yes, even with your jacket on, and even in the tropics.
Here's the issue: this film and others like it may have been made by taxpayers, but the U.S. Government in its infinite wisdom, threw it away. Tens of thousands of films were destroyed and many others are at risk. Our company preserves these precious bits of history one film at a time. How do we afford to do that? By selling them as stock footage to documentary filmmakers and broadcasters. If we did not have a counter, we could not afford to post films like this on online, and no films would be preserved. It's that simple. So we ask you to bear with the watermark and timecodes. So, in the past we tried many different systems including placing our timer at the bottom corner of our videos. What happened? Unscrupulous UA-cam users downloaded our vids, blew them up so the timer was not visible, and re-posted them as their own content. We had to use content control to have the videos removed and shut down these channels. It's hard enough work preserving these films and posting them, without having to deal with these kind of issues.
@@PeriscopeFilm well that makes sense. did not think about any of that. you do good work with these old films, and i really do enjoy them. thanks for what you do. i am on a kick right now watching the old WW2 films, and these have been fantastic. thanks again! AND what i think is even more amazing is that you replied this late late on a Sunday night. lol, hope you are having a great evening, i sure am.
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@@PeriscopeFilm Good point about the timecode, I am glad that you have the unmarked originals though. I guess that you saw They Shall Not Grow Old (ua-cam.com/video/IrabKK9Bhds/v-deo.html), it would be amazing to do the same treatment to these films.
They really didn't value human life back then....ALL of these videos come across as "and YOu WILL be proud to give your life for your country! While I, the appointed commander will sit at home in my comfy chair making sure you listen to ME because I was hand picked by the PRESIDENT OF THE US HIMSELF!" Given our leadership is dictated by being friends with a guy who wins a popularity contest kind of reinforces the idea that all those men were sent to die so there'd be easier pickings at home. Not because there was an actual threat to the US.
I like how the generic Japanese fighter ("a Nakajima!") becomes an unmistakable U.S. Corsair in later footage. I've always wondered about this in movies and war footage: Who was more ignorant? The film editor or the public?
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Well, in the middle of a war, you don't have the luxury getting all the scenes you want filmed...so the editors had to make do with the footage they had.
@ so the editors only had footage of a Japanese plane and the most unmistakable-looking, late-in-the-war US fighter available to them?
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@@JuanAdam12 Possibly, remember, it was a time in which databases for footage banks were pretty primitive, so the editors would have to know there is such footage, and in which army film footage bank or archive, get in touch, and locate the film, and be able to bring it, a process which would probably take days if not weeks. A lot of hassle compared to nowadays, when we can in a matter of minutes find in an online database pretty much any footage we want, and get it downloaded. I guess the editors chose to use whatever was at hand in their film unit.
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Also... 21 years in the Navy and I got ribbed for having an "abandon ship kit" in radio central with my emergency radio kit. Good to go, since I was the Skipper's personal communicator on his RHIB. Hoo-yah!
I got pretty badly burned my the Man of War jellyfish on a Florida beach. The surf churns the tentacles into a soup that will cause burns all over, espicially the privates. As for the pain going away quickly...I wish haha. But the life guard had a spray bottle that helped, perhaps containg vinegar that stops the stingers.
I feel for you, that must have been terrible pain. The churned up remnants of those tentacles is almost a bio weapon. I've heard the effects last a long time.
Wow, that was informative. I'd no idea that sharks had such poor eye sight and that they mainly rely on their sense of smell. Smell! Hah Even more comforting was learning what chickenshits sharks really are and how easily frightened. The increasing number of increasingly aggressive Great Whites spotted on both inner and outer cape cod the last dozen summers will be no match for me and my loud splashing when I go on vacation down there this July!
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the authoritiveness of this advice. All of that splashing is more likely to indicate "fish in distress", attracting sharks. I, myself, have attracted small reef sharks on coral flats by deliberately splashing the surface. Tiger sharks are best dealt with by remaining calm, but acting aggressively towards them if they approach for closer investigation. Reports from people who've spent their life pearling, for example, are unanimous in their ability to detect, and respond to fear. You tell me whether furious splashing is more likely to indicate fear or aggression. On the other hand, I can't think of much that would discourage a white pointer if it felt like it was time for a feed.
Not much was actually known about sharks at the time. Research on them was sparse until the late 70s. Their poor vision turned out to be a myth, though most species are colorblind. Also their electroreception was completely unknown at the time and makes thrashing well you're alone rather bad advice for some, but not all, species.
@@nonna_sof5889 i am wondering if it makes mor sense to poke the shark with a sharp or blunt object. I am thinking a sharp object would be more painful.. and also could put them at risk of being bitten by fellow sharks if it causes them to bleed?
@@manp1039 I always thought that, too. If you can cut a shark and get it to bleed then any shark that goes after it is one less shark you have to deal with.
i am surprised they dididn't mention using the navy hat being used as an improvised floatation device. It was my understanding that the shape and design of the hat was partially for this purpose. wet the cotton, and then hold it with two hand and swing it like a bowl into the water to capture air (similar to how they swung the pants.. and to periodically splash more water onto the material to keep it wet to keep it more air tight.
I think the bucket hat is a rain hat with the brim turned up. It seems a bit small to serve as a flotation device. I can see how the bell-bottom pants would have been handy, though.
@@timmyburden5701 No big deal really. Think about it. Like us, fish are mostly water anyway. You could eat almost any fish raw, yuckiness factor aside, with no problem and you would be taking in water at the same time.
I hate that the watermark and timer are placed in the middle if the screen. Can't it be to the side and smaller? Don't need the timer taking up room and it's destracting.
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They talked about how to use a flashlight, then they talk about getting dressed in the dark. What about using the flashlight in the dark while getting dressed?
Yep. You really don't want to be wearing shoes and pants when swimming under water anyway. You said it. Grab your clothes, maybe tie them to you, and run. You can put them on in a life raft if you find one, or even use your tied and inflated pants as a life preserver if not and if you are without one.
Also why not have wooden row boats? They would surely be more sturdy and row better?? And be able to hold lots more gear with protective cupboards built in.
Because collapsible or inflatable rafts stow much better. They pack away neatly in capsules, and deck space is at a real premium on a warship. Better to have 10 mediocre rafts than one good boat
It was drilled into our heads during boot camp not to abandon ship until the order to do so was given. You could be in the water watching the ship sailing away because damage control managed to save it and in all thet chaos no saw you or heard you go overboard. Stay with the ship and be prepared to abandon her only if she can't be saved!
Part of this film about how to stay afloat, should be played in every school and every class before summer holiday.
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I wont lie, I agree. Similar tips were taught to me growing up, especially utilizing trousers. The littlest things can save you if you know what to do!
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Poor 3rd world seacoast countries in Asia loose THOUSANDS of kids every year. I owned a scuba business in Vietnam , inevitably I had to recover at least 1 and as many as 5 kids bodies. I provided free swim training.
This is 2020, I am 46 and 20 years away from my army days, where I was a fireman.
We had this technique to dress fast upon hearing the bell:
Trousers placed above the boots, next to the bed, so as to put both the boots and trousers at the same time, upper clothes already one inside the other (t-shirt inside the pull over), so as to repeat the 2in1 operation of the boots and pants, all the necessary gear (in my case gloves and small set of metallic tools plus a lamp and other stuff) tucked together, by wrapping the gloves around them, the assemblage being latched to your belt.
We gained up to a minute that way.
Hope it will serve you someday.
jetaddicted Our Dad taught us something similar so as to be up and out of the house in 15 minutes. That was nine of us, seven kids, two adults. Yes, he was in the Navy. I still arrange my clothes, etc. the same way. btw, I’m 61.
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Think I'll try that.
Nice tip bro
I am a firefighter of several decades and arranged my clothes too with my pants able to drop both legs into simultaneously and pull them up. Outerwear bottom opening up to slide right on. Just like with turnout gear.
The Navy was still teaching these same survival techniques when I was in basic in the late '80s. I later taught my son "drownproofing" using the same techniques I had learned when he was 6.
Same here in 2000. Hah.
Wow, so far I've learned how to resist enemy interogation, dead mans float, and how to defeat a tank with smoke bombs, and a log. Thanks, I'm sure all this will come in handy with lawn applications and tree injections....
One cannot, unfortunately resist enemy interrogation by mere video training and arguably - and that is something which is still not told these days yet, interrogation is not there to get information but to "get even" and give free flow to the suppressed stress of the enemy - where they will execute (it's a war crime btw) simply put the meekest and the most aggressive POW,being average is thus something one should strive for and being in the "crowd" as well, but survival in this case largely depends on luck.
Lastly tactical information is not as valuable these days, and the low-level troop movement information is superceded by the widespread use of c2i2 systems at every level of command - the war in Ukraine soundly proves this, where the Ukrainian army is for all intents and purposes is fighting slaves and indentured servants, which what Russian army is due to the large state presence in the real estate and land business due to the progressive stagnation and collapse of their economy from 2014. Now don't get me wrong, slave militaries are sometimes efficient (Egyptian Mamluks, Ottoman Janissary corps etc.) in cases where one needs assault with an overwhelming force and short but extremely high attrition rate.
@@IvanDmitriev1Sir, this is a Wendy’s…
My late father was in the Navy 1942 - 1945. He was only 18 when he enlisted, right after Pearl Harbor. As a pharmacist's mate, one of his tasks was tending the rescued. The light oil and gas on the water caused the worst injuries. I'm sure he saw this film.
I love these old training films, they are informative and interesting, with a bit of sarcasm thrown in for good measure. When I was in the British military we had a selection of survival kit in a bag, “go kit” and even though I never needed it under such awful circumstances it was always useful to have during exercises and detachments, especially when going to a different country or base with limited access to “civilisation “ and being a true Brit, teabags, stock cubes, packet soup and of all things Tabasco sauce, it could mask the taste of any ration pack, (rat pack) meal, I think they are called MRE’s these days, of course things like a good knife, torch and mirror were in mine as well.so the advice given to the sailors etc in this film about packing essentials is as true today as it was back in WWII. thanks for sharing this interesting and informative video. 👍.
i believe that the Tabasco sauce idea is pure genius. i
Your narrator, Mike Wallace enlisted in the United States Navy in 1943 and during World War II served as a communications officer on the USS Anthedon, a submarine tender. He saw no combat but travelled to Hawaii, Australia, and Subic Bay in the Philippines, then patrolling the South China Sea, the Philippine Sea and south of Japan. After being discharged in 1946, Wallace returned to Chicago.
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I read this in his voice
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Hahaha, I did the same thing!!😅😅
Most of the journalists of today are big pussies and would never join an armed service of a country they hate so much. j/s
I banged Mrs. Wallace while he was away ;)
My great uncle was on hms esk it sank in 2 minutes in the dark in winter only 4 men survived...rip
It doesn't mention the fact that when in the water one of the most serious threats to your survival are your shipmates. When they are panicking- they'll drown you.
Coast Guard rescue swimmers train on this subject. And if they need to, they will slug the person in the face if necesary to keep them from grabbing them in a panick, to avoid them drowning them both.
This is a spare-the-hard-truth video in many ways than one, because considering it was a long war, it was important to tell the truth but also important to tell just enough and not too much of the truth to keep the morale up, but I do find it he further we advance the more emphasis on the negative consequences of incorrect action in all training (I've had chemical, radiological and electrical hazards in production environment training) and nowadays they do show and tell you what happens. Regulations are written in blood. Never go against them.
Actually the film does say that unless you're very well trained you should not make body contact with a struggling swimmer. It says to toss one end of your shirt to them and drag them.
@@IvanDmitriev1 Yeah, and compared to a lot of the other training videos, this one still feels like it'd be useful and relevant even today. It does throw in some tongue in cheek humor, but it mostly focuses on straight facts. Plus there's good logic in everything they say and no actor is pretending to be a lot happier or calmer than reality.
Interesting....when I went through Navy boot camp in 79, we were taught, and practiced, abandoning ship by stepping off the deck and over the side, pinching our nose with one hand and covering our rectum with the other. The object of covering both...orifices....was to prevent water from forcibly entering the respective body cavities and damaging internal bodily organs such as the colon, sinuses, etc. We were also taught NOT to wear our life jackets when going over the side. We were told to tie a loop in one of the life jackets strings and hold onto it. As it was explained to us, the sudden deceleration exerted on the spine caused by diving into water from an appreciable height while wearing a life jacket can break one's back or neck. We were also taught to always abandon ship on the WINDWARD side, so that the ship, acting like a sail, would be carried away from you by the wind and not into you if you abandoned on the leeward side.
Incredible what 20 years of learning gave you squids. Thank you for doing a job not many can do
Great comment
Probably not 20 years of learning but quite a lot of sunk ships
Very interesting. Thank you for your service!
It's interesting that you were told to protect your anus, not your balls. It seems to me that the former would be impenetrable with pants on, but the latter would be hurt by hitting the water from a great height.
God bless all the sailors, Marines, civilian personnel, and others who had to abandon ship and lost their lives because of it!
What about USCG
When I served on a ship back in 1970's I always had acouple of big plastic bags to use as floatation device just in case the ship sunk
If they were still alive to abandon ship, then statistically speaking, they were probably rescued. Still, you're right.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful video. My father served as a sonar man aboard a minesweeper during WWII and came back without a scratch. God bless all who served. God bless the greatest generation.
Here's to all the guys who ended up having to try out the floating with an empty shell casing idea.
I saw this film in boot camp San Diego 1968.
I saw it there in the summer of 1967. It may have been one of the things that made me volunteer for the Seabees.
How old is this training film ? They didn't have one more modern for you guys to watch ? At least you're still with us. Thank you for your service from one veteran to another.
I love these videos. They are like the original Survivor Man videos.
I remember being told to keep boots on when going over the side to prevent injury. Also we were taught not wear an inflated jacket when junping as it could break you neck. The same applied to mae West type jackets.
Fascinating. Am imagining these procedures being carried out in the Atlantic or the Arctic, and at night.
"Never mind your camera or geeeetar" good advice but cracked me up:)
Salute and respect from NZ 🇳🇿
It's chilling to think that some men had had to put all that practice into practice.
It's tragic too.... thinking the only reason we need these men to go out to sea in the first place is because some other men are going out to sea to attack the land.
My father was a radar operator in WW Ii on DE338. Whenever he swam he used the breast stroke as it was drilled into him that it would push away debris and oil. It stayed with him forever
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I thought splashing water on the surface is what attracts sharks... sharks think it's a struggling fish for dinner.
Yeah , I also thought it would look like a fish in distress .
you are correct. we know a lot more about sharks now then back then
@@ravenclawtomnot to make light of their deaths, but the Indianapolis situation makes much more sense now that you’ve mentioned that
85%might be right for navy shipping but it ain't even close for merchant seamen, god rest their souls and all the little red lights no one could stop for.
Shame🤢🥵 I had a grandfather in law.., was a survivor seaman of the convoys....., he had most his face removed..., I only met him a few times...., and they told me that he hated the nazis for what he saw & heard from the other ships sinking...., 🥵 those fking red lights.....
I was told that he was a tough tough guy..., but he got the impression that he was wreaked... I shouldn’t have watched....🌹
85% seems optimistic. It probably includes ships that were abandoned by transferring the crew to another ship.
I am older,and worked with a .an that was torpedoed twice.It was Hell on Earth, with many men burned.
God rest their souls.
"Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces."
One of the most memorable scenes from 'Jaws'!
Hey chief… I see ya brought your rubbers
Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies
Here's to swimmin with bow-legged women
Good video. We do the drills but if things go bad it may be difficult to get to your abandon ship station and then muster.
The narrators sounded so familiar. Mike Wallace from Sixty Minutes
We were some of the last few to be issued the Bell bottom Dungarees before they switched to the straight leg gas station attended pants. The bell bottoms could save a sailor's life if overboard. They were easily removed without having to take off your boondockers 1st. You could then tie a knott in each pant leg and with a couple techniques the legs could be inflated and used as a flotation device. Same with the dungaree shirt. I never understood why they did away with the Bell bottoms. Still have one pair.
edit: wrote this before I got to that part in the video.
That's why they gave us $4/month clothing allowance. Don't want any holes in your bell bottoms
@@craigschneider1820 appreciate your service brother✊ In 1996 $4 would get me a utility belt. Maybe just the buckle.
Probably because USA hasn't really had to deal with sinking ships much in the last 80 years
@@Damo2690 Damn straight!! They do the sinking!! 🇺🇸
1. For the love of god DONT thrash about when sharks are nearby
2. Their eyesight is actually quite good
Plus sharks aren’t that bad anyway. Most of the time, they only bite you because that’s the only way they can interact with the world. Think of it like a dog sniffing you or a baby poking you. Of course, that won’t help you when a great white bites your arm off, but still.
They have lousy eyesight.
3: most shark “accidents” as they were correctly called in the past, are mistaken attempts to catch a perceived seal, so avoid looking like a seal
@@boss_boy_ Yeah most of the fear of Sharks primarily comes from pop culture movies like JAWS that actually lead to a large attack and fear mongering of sharks despite there being very few shark attacks and documented fatalities from them. If anything we're a far bigger threat to them than they are to us.
Such a great video, every vid from back then was so goood and helpful for every Occasion you were in, I’d be watching these vids like crazy
"Predatory fish"...he's working mighty hard not to say SHARK.
Hehe there are far more deadly fish than Sharks, in fact, Sharks are pretty docile compared to some other ocean dwelling fish. Sharks generally don't attack humans. it's only because of that stupid JAWS movie that people believe Sharks are a threat but most shark attacks tended to be from recreational swimmers far out to sea and really bad luck. the giant naval ship and explosions and weapons generally will scare the sharks away. WHALES though....might mess with you.
Great old relic
My hubby also said he was taught swim after abondon ship away..cuz suction of ship will pull u under..he said when u hit the oven hall ass don't watch....he said he had many abandon ship drill before he went in for that war 1990 ..
Never leave the boat until the boat leaves you.
really interesting film, must have been of great use to sailors unfortunate enough to need to abandon.
During the first part of the oil sequences I think they got leeward (away from the wind - so where the oil would be blown to) and windward (into the wind) backwards. Later they get it right. Otherwise this yacht sailor and student of history is impressed. There was a USN sailor who fell off an aircraft carrier in the 1980s who floated using his trousers for a couple of days until he was found.
My how the Navy changed from the time this film was made and the 1970's. The Navy didn't issue you a survival knife, fishing kit, or whistle. All you got was a foul weather jacket, the modern plastic version of the Mae West and an EEBD on your rack. Ships like destroyers and frigates had become weapons platforms and were not expected to survive the new missile era. Surprisingly enough the Damage Control training improved and the modern ships did survive extensive damage from missiles, mines and IED's with minimal casualties.
USS Stark/USS Samuel B. Roberts/USS Cole
If there's enough time for him to play that whole bugle call, there's no need to abandon ship.
oh my husband had to jump off this super high diving board, made just to practice that jump with arms folded. Sadly, my husband is built to SINK, but he survived and graduated! However, we won't talk about the long swim....he passed.
I didn't know naka jima flew a top of the line marine aircraft
Believe I saw this film when I was in basic @ Great Lakes in 1965.
very interesting video. Thanks for sharing!
"OK, listen up shipmates! These boys from Washington are creating a training film on how to abandon ship. Any volunteers? It will be fun and you'll get an extra $2 for the commissary."
LATER: 15:38
Yeah volunteering is a bad move in any military. Especially if they say "It'll be fun" That's the line they used on my 17 yr old brother, when the SAS asked for volunteers to act at hostages for a training exersise. They said it'll be fun, he'll get to fly low level over Sydney harbour in a old Huey. A lot of the older guys told him not to do it, but the opportunity to go for a fly in a huey was too much. He said he should of listened. He spent the entire time blind folded and got thrown around like a rag doll. And spent the next few days nursing cuts and bruises.
We used to call that bugle call "The Bear Went Over the Mountain".
I'd say the number one best way to avoid drowning at sea would be not to go to sea, especially not in a boat. However, everyone should know these techniques just in case they survive the plane crash. Respect to those who did go to see because, as you can tell from the beginning of this comment, I am of the opinion that doing so is quite dangerous in and of itself.
Man....those were tough times
This is why I carry a $199.95 life raft with me when I'm at sea. Better than treading water with a life jacket on an sharks nibbling on your toes
Are you active Navy? And if so, do they allow you to carry the raft with you at sea?
Yeah sharks won't bite a rubber boat.
Just as a matter of interest. The film suggests using trousers as an impromptu flotation device. When did trousers become pants in the USA?
I too would like to know
Around the 19th century, Americans starting calling them pants.
Around the 19th century, Americans starting calling them pants.
What about dungarees? :)
These films are great...a whole lot better than most of the crap shoveled out of Hollywood today
Many of these WW2 films were produced for the US Govt by Hollywood, before Hollywood became a propaganda machine for the Leftists.
11:17 did he jump and land face first on the raft? I see a pair of feet flopping around...
100% face first lmao! Dude floatin face down after that one
Yeah , thats clearly how NOT to do it !
That's why they gave us $4 a month clothing allowance. Don't want bell bottoms with holes.
Power knocked out yet the general alarm and 1MC still work? What about battle lamps in every compartment ?
3:01 oh boy
thank christ I was born after this
The sensible opposite of “born in the wrong generation”
@ Pericopefiims, May God Blesss ya!
If I were the skipper of a ship, every man would carry a canteen, or two, of water when battle stations was sounded. The rest of the fleet would have made fun of us also, because the ship would have had extra water, rafts and rations strapped to the rails.
Good idea, but how would the water be provided, and how often would it need to be replaced?
@@IntrepidYouth Good point. Filling 2 canteens per sailor would take a good portion of the freshwater. I'd say an expiration would have to be marked on the outside of the canteen using some type of erasable marker. The expiration or date to replace water in the canteens would probably depend on the weather or region being traveled. In moderate weather the water should be good for several weeks to a month, colder climates longer and tropical a couple of weeks at most.
We'll never know if the dog made it aboard the rescue.
Rescue the mascot! Oh, please, rescue the mascot!!! (I've seen too many movies.)
He actually did and served until the end of the war. His name was Clarkson.
What about the Guy Before him. He died no Jacket
I was in the Coast Guard . . .they taught us these same techniques . ..of course we would just walk ashore ;)
I read about a guy who did that!
I’ve watched too many analog horrors and now I’m sitting here waiting for the video to turn uncanny or surreal lmao
“Be wary of unnecessary movements or noises, gods wrath ungulates below the surface”
(1) 17:35 What? No safety briefing for the proper way to use your head, especially while ducking underneath metal airplanes? Yeah, that's gonna hurt! Glad they left that gem in the film! (2) 9:30 The aircraft carrier U.S.S. Yorktown (CV-5) and destroyer U.S.S. Hammann (DD-412) were sunk from Japanese torpedoes, fired from submarine I-168. But when this film was produced in 1943, the Navy wasn't going to admit it.
What year would this film have been released? Would the Marines in WW2 Pacific theatre watched this?
1943 is what one person here said.
sounds like a young mike Wallace narrating.
I wonder if the survivors of the Indianapolis helped make this film? They used survivor experiences.
Or any from taffy 3.
Or survivors from USS Juneau, all ten of them, though they may have had some words to say about the fact that several days went by before the navy started looking for them.
@@maddyg3208 The poor sailors from the Indianapolis were I'm water for many days before they were found. May God rest their souls.
At 29:45 and beyond, lip read sailor in the water!
i'm not convinced jumping is sound advice, unless the ship is on fire or about to explode. if the water is really cold, you could easily gasp and drown. yes, even with your jacket on, and even in the tropics.
these videos would be so much better without the running time stamp.
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@@PeriscopeFilm Good point about the timecode, I am glad that you have the unmarked originals though. I guess that you saw They Shall Not Grow Old (ua-cam.com/video/IrabKK9Bhds/v-deo.html), it would be amazing to do the same treatment to these films.
at 29:39 you can read his lips saying "Son of a bitch!".
Got a love our government they say when you survive you’re ready for action to get back into combat ??crazy!!
They really didn't value human life back then....ALL of these videos come across as "and YOu WILL be proud to give your life for your country! While I, the appointed commander will sit at home in my comfy chair making sure you listen to ME because I was hand picked by the PRESIDENT OF THE US HIMSELF!"
Given our leadership is dictated by being friends with a guy who wins a popularity contest kind of reinforces the idea that all those men were sent to die so there'd be easier pickings at home. Not because there was an actual threat to the US.
Does anyone know when this film was produced? Was it pre-Pearl Harbor? Thank you in advance!
29:35 He says "Whew! That was close!" 😂
I like how the generic Japanese fighter ("a Nakajima!") becomes an unmistakable U.S. Corsair in later footage. I've always wondered about this in movies and war footage: Who was more ignorant? The film editor or the public?
Well, in the middle of a war, you don't have the luxury getting all the scenes you want filmed...so the editors had to make do with the footage they had.
@ so the editors only had footage of a Japanese plane and the most unmistakable-looking, late-in-the-war US fighter available to them?
@@JuanAdam12 Possibly, remember, it was a time in which databases for footage banks were pretty primitive, so the editors would have to know there is such footage, and in which army film footage bank or archive, get in touch, and locate the film, and be able to bring it, a process which would probably take days if not weeks. A lot of hassle compared to nowadays, when we can in a matter of minutes find in an online database pretty much any footage we want, and get it downloaded.
I guess the editors chose to use whatever was at hand in their film unit.
Great video
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Also... 21 years in the Navy and I got ribbed for having an "abandon ship kit" in radio central with my emergency radio kit. Good to go, since I was the Skipper's personal communicator on his RHIB. Hoo-yah!
2:12 Dude is covered in oil and the officers are interrogating him! Lolz 😅
Yea when there’s shark around, just splash a bunch???
Clearly, this was before Jaws 😁
I got pretty badly burned my the Man of War jellyfish on a Florida beach. The surf churns the tentacles into a soup that will cause burns all over, espicially the privates. As for the pain going away quickly...I wish haha. But the life guard had a spray bottle that helped, perhaps containg vinegar that stops the stingers.
I feel for you, that must have been terrible pain. The churned up remnants of those tentacles is almost a bio weapon. I've heard the effects last a long time.
Very good
Wow, that was informative. I'd no idea that sharks had such poor eye sight and that they mainly rely on their sense of smell. Smell! Hah Even more comforting was learning what chickenshits sharks really are and how easily frightened. The increasing number of increasingly aggressive Great Whites spotted on both inner and outer cape cod the last dozen summers will be no match for me and my loud splashing when I go on vacation down there this July!
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the authoritiveness of this advice. All of that splashing is more likely to indicate "fish in distress", attracting sharks. I, myself, have attracted small reef sharks on coral flats by deliberately splashing the surface. Tiger sharks are best dealt with by remaining calm, but acting aggressively towards them if they approach for closer investigation. Reports from people who've spent their life pearling, for example, are unanimous in their ability to detect, and respond to fear. You tell me whether furious splashing is more likely to indicate fear or aggression. On the other hand, I can't think of much that would discourage a white pointer if it felt like it was time for a feed.
Not much was actually known about sharks at the time. Research on them was sparse until the late 70s. Their poor vision turned out to be a myth, though most species are colorblind. Also their electroreception was completely unknown at the time and makes thrashing well you're alone rather bad advice for some, but not all, species.
@@vitabricksnailslime8273 Capt. Quint?
@@nonna_sof5889 i am wondering if it makes mor sense to poke the shark with a sharp or blunt object. I am thinking a sharp object would be more painful.. and also could put them at risk of being bitten by fellow sharks if it causes them to bleed?
@@manp1039 I always thought that, too. If you can cut a shark and get it to bleed then any shark that goes after it is one less shark you have to deal with.
i am surprised they dididn't mention using the navy hat being used as an improvised floatation device. It was my understanding that the shape and design of the hat was partially for this purpose. wet the cotton, and then hold it with two hand and swing it like a bowl into the water to capture air (similar to how they swung the pants.. and to periodically splash more water onto the material to keep it wet to keep it more air tight.
I think the bucket hat is a rain hat with the brim turned up. It seems a bit small to serve as a flotation device. I can see how the bell-bottom pants would have been handy, though.
A bunch of guys hanging onto the sides of a small life raft probably looks a lot like a tasty octopus. 🐙🦑🦈
Still in the battle! Ugh, can't I just go home now?!
Dying of thirst at sea? Fun fact: fish eyes are almost pure water.
Wouldn't that be seawater and not drinkable?
@@timmyburden5701 no, it's fresh and consumable.
@@wntu4 wow
@@timmyburden5701 No big deal really. Think about it. Like us, fish are mostly water anyway. You could eat almost any fish raw, yuckiness factor aside, with no problem and you would be taking in water at the same time.
I hate that the watermark and timer are placed in the middle if the screen. Can't it be to the side and smaller? Don't need the timer taking up room and it's destracting.
No, because otherwise assholes just crop it off and steal your footage
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Lot of gear adrift in that Ensign, Senior Grade's stateroom.
My Grandfather shipped out on the HMS Queen Mary and returned home on a Liberty Ship!
Queen Mary is now a hotel in Long Beach.
If you ever get the chance, go for a tour.
Well worth the $$
@@BELCAN57 I just might do that someday!
" how not to be shark food ".
Tell us how the Navy helped the USS Indy.
I just got done reading about it.... Damn...
and others. There were other cases, such as the Battle off Samar where survivors were not picked up.
Barry Hope SGT Hope ask your dad.
What sucked for them was that…”they weren’t out there”
what's name of the announcer? sounds very familiar.
Mike Wallace.
He served aboard a submarine tender in the Pacific area in 1943 but no combat is what someone here had written.
That's scary!!
swim away from the danger zone....easy.
When i see the title i automatically remembered the Battlecruiser voice when you click on it in StarCraft. "Abandon Ship"(in Russian accent)
That Nakijima sure looks like a Corsair.
I have always wondered why sailors wear those 'pork pie' hats - to protect the head when wondering about in the dark?
I vividly remember sleeping dressed when at sea.
hoorayyyyy!!! - the ship's dog made the parade!!!! 😁😁😁
so if the burglar is killed, the situation is really dire.
They talked about how to use a flashlight, then they talk about getting dressed in the dark. What about using the flashlight in the dark while getting dressed?
Or bundling your shirt and shoes together and just grabbing them as you leave
Yep. You really don't want to be wearing shoes and pants when swimming under water anyway. You said it. Grab your clothes, maybe tie them to you, and run. You can put them on in a life raft if you find one, or even use your tied and inflated pants as a life preserver if not and if you are without one.
That would be to easy. Lol
And as far as making your way up topside if its dark ? , youve got your flashlight so use it .
Now they say thrashing in the water attracts the sharks.
Least they saved the dog.
Also why not have wooden row boats? They would surely be more sturdy and row better??
And be able to hold lots more gear with protective cupboards built in.
Because collapsible or inflatable rafts stow much better. They pack away neatly in capsules, and deck space is at a real premium on a warship.
Better to have 10 mediocre rafts than one good boat