I think she's changed, and we shouldn't judge people on their past on some things. Like Iget the being a stupid kid and not knowing thing. I grew up in a town in South East Illinois whose welcome sign said "Welcome to blahblah, no N words" until 2005 when the state forced them to change it. Now it says "Illegals deported in a box" or so I am told. But I grew up in that kind of community. And I didn't realize that these views and everything were wrong until I moved away for college and got away from that environment. So yeah you can be stupid about things and not know what you're doing or saying is wrong. Now once you learn that it's wrong, and you keep doing it that's when you definitely a bad person.
The dog pissing on the floor thing isn't actually that big of a deal, if you've owned dogs then you'd know that happens whether it's your fault or not, and it's not as if it causes great harm to the dog. The black face/racist stuff is cringe, but it's also old, and I'm sure most people back in those days at least said something similar. The pedo-bait accusations she made were brain-dead, but that's what happens when you're on Twitter. I don't think I can really have an opinion on her relationship shit since literally no one but them knows the full extent. All in all, I don't think she's deserving of as much hate as she got and if people want to support her then I'm certainly not going to chastise them. Though I might make fun of you if you bought her OF.
Thats what I am saying her ex-boyfriend literally dehumanizing her and the internet joins him like there is clear evidence that she is going through some dark mental issue in her childhood at some point and her drug intake does not help her mentality either. Ppl forget she smokes weeds, she has a bong ffs, she is LITERALLY high in all her videos SHE NEEDS HELP DON'T MAKE IT WORST FOR HER.
Well i have know emi from the drumsy videos i always tough she was very edgy and funny but her past?? damn, i mean, i dont really care to be honest but i don't think its a big deal because she might be a "different" person now, surely
is it really blackface or did she just spread Nutella on her face as a joke? Im not saying there wasn't any racist intent but that kind of showed up in the video without context other than you saying that she did blackface. but also yeah. this is really messed up. the abuse videos in this video are super disturbing to watch or even listen to and the twitter and discord messages are not at all what I expected from watching the other creators that colabed with her.. I feel like this video is probably just going to bring up the drama again though witch isnt good if she really is trying to change.
Yeah she is trying to move and I did highlight these actions were years ago and that she has calmed down since and improved her content. I mainly wanted to ask the question is if viewers or fans of hers would ever come back to someone that had a past like hers with the way she has improved her image and putting effort back in.
yeah I saw the part where you highlighted that. that's why I brought up the last part of the reply about her trying to change. I'm just saying that It might bring the drama back even if you mention that she's trying to change. Still a great video. I did want to see behind the scenes of her cuz she's the best of the people in drumsy's videos but she just randomly appeared out of nowhere and I couldn't find where she even came from and right as I was thinking that this vid showed up in my recommended. Its kind of sad how you can hear clearly that some of the jokes she makes aren't actual jokes and are just her trying to ask her friends for help but hiding it behind jokes. Was the Nutella officially supposed to be racist tho? like... did she say it was blackface? It is one of those tiktok trends to just smear random stuff on your face and she might be doing something like that but I could be wrong. To answer your question: Yeah I think they would still come back as long as she Is actually trying to change. Its not like she didn't do any pedo stuff or anything like talking strangely to minors... right? and the dog thing was really messed up but she didn't hit the dog or anything from what I understand and it looked well fed to me but i could be wrong . she still should have taken the dog out tho. that whole video felt weird to watch. @@Royaltyishere
i think its safe to say, shes changed and there is little saying she is still the same person she once was, so why bother judging her on a past controversy.
Maybe, but idk abt calling everything with hard evidence "controversy" lol. A grown ass woman abusing her bf, doing the racist shit she did, and all that twitter hypocrisy with accusing people of being p*dos is just malicious or at the very least evidence of a dogwater personality. No one just does those things, especially with your real life face attached to them. All that as of 2020-2022 at the latest, idk why it's "safe to assume she changed", but I also don't think she can't have. Her not doing it online is about the best you can ask for at this point lol
I agree with you. I genuinely hate that this was made and the video of her boyfreind literally just looked like he was just making shit worse. Like know what lets not try to deescalate or calm them while there clearly having an episode lets just scream at them and be passive aggressive. Then again im just a very empathetic person but this video is literally just digging up shit unnessasarily. Everyone has a past, everyone makes mistakes. Its how people learn and shit
@@hexitsroysiepls9279but when its on the internet its a different story. now the small portion of the world knows this and you'll never hear the end of it. If you never had such a popular appearance on the internet not a single thing irl would slip into the hands of the public. this is reality. you will be judged on a matter that should never have been public. sure the guy in the video comes off as an asshole yes but from another prospective she js coming off as a looney toon who cant take care of her pet but is clearly having a panic attack and he isnt doing anything to de-escalate it. some of us are here for the wild ride of entertainment because why should it matter to thousands of strangers you don't know and be on some unrealistic moral high ground of stupid drama like this lol. thats how i see it. sorry for the long text im just very very veeeeeeerrry tired atm
Even if they did changed for the better. You have to remember their bad deeds. Like the old phrase goes, don't judge a book by their cover. You don't know what bat shit crazy they have done in the past.
Ok, so imo her character has always been the psychopath girl. Her character was probably an exaggerated version of herself at the time. She seems to have bettered herself away from these behaviors but continues to play the character because that's how she's known. Good on you for accepting her change and not continuing to hate and ruin her more beyond what consequences she already had
all the points are valid except the anime stuff..(although it was pointless controversy based on the fact that trifling with the "anime" community (sex offender central) never goes well.)
the funny think is I confused the n-word with the Latin word for black (I am not from an English speaking country) in discord so that doesn't count and I gave never used twitter. I can fully in the right lol
Not trying to defend her here but as you can see Emi wasnt really "stable" and she is currently trying to change. I think this video is kinda unnesecary since this was years ago and shes matured a bit more and is trying to turn her life around. Bringing this drama to light once again is extremely disrespectful and i think this video is just a lazy content farm
Only thing I'm suspicious about is the ex boyfriend, because from what I heard in the video, he said "my room" implying that he also lived in that extremely messy apartment. In the more recent video, her room is pretty clean, so it doesn't quite make sense to me why that apartment was extremely messy. Now I'm assuming he didn't help clean the apartment, and most likely contributed to the messiness. Stuff like not washing the dishes and doing chores around house probably stacked up overtime and caused her to have some sort of mental breakdown. The other stuff, yea it is pretty bad.
how can you go off of assuming all that just because a man said that anyway? we dont know if it was her we dont know if it was him. regardless in a relationship anyway it isnt and shouldn't be a he said she said issue of anything. your both adults and both held accountable. if it doesnt work out there are plenty fish in the sea. as the guy above me said tho that has nothing to do with taking care of your pet.
Dude she is changing man be happy for her she is improving. Here is one example I seen some of her videos and picture and her current home is very clean now
tbh i feel like ppl hate her more for being some weird emo goth egirl than the fact that she literally did blackface and was racist. i guess it just goes to show that most of the internet (including her) is from zinc arkansas.
I always enjoyed emi on the drumsy show. Didn't know she did stuff outside of that. I gotta say there are a lot of assumptions going on here, my dog had the best life she could've after we rescued her but she'd piss on the floor when ever we'd fight just because she was scared. The Nutella thing I totally don't think was blackface, about 5-6 years ago on cruise ship they did it as an activity, I've shown those pictures, doesn't make me racist. And tbh a lot of that stuff did look like generic discord stuff.
Buffalo wings, lobster roll, southern BBQ, a seafood boil, there's lots even hamburgers (some try to credit Germany but I suggest doing some research there)
10:05 hit a bad point of her life SHE WAS ALREADY AT A BAD POINT OF HER LIFE AND ALL WE KNOW IS THIS START IN HER CHILDHOOD. HER WEED ADDICTION PROBABLY CAME FROM HER CHILDHOOD. edit: wow youtube is so much nicer and understand the situation for her unlike the websites like reddit and twitter just shits on her while be blind sited on whats wrong with, what is causing this conflict, whats the history, etc
The Nutella and the dog situation were fine, what wasn’t fine was Her playing dumb acting like she has no clue what antisemitism is and what she said in the discord chats the whole Loli thing can be over looked I don’t really support either side in the matter
@@iszaaccc from a real world perspective? Yeah stuff like that happens all the time people being to busy to walk there dog while yes it is wrong that can be looked passed compared to the other things
"Nutella thing" was really multiple instances of putting some brown or dark shit on her face with the tagline "hey my niggas" or just flat out dropping hard rs in chat
I would just like to say that I'm not a fan of your reductive view of emi and her fanbase. E girl or not, I don't think its fair to assume that the only reason someone would watch and/or defend her would be to thirst after her as if that's the only thing she brings to the table. I personally know her from drumsy's youtube chanell which you briefly mentioned even though it's where she is most active nowadays and where she very much puts effort into her humor. A lot of it might be edgy but some people cope with their issues through humor and I think emi is a prime example of this. I for one find her funny. I don't doubt she had some real issues in the past, but she seems to have changed a lot and I don't see a reason to berate her based on loose evidence that might or might not have been taken out of context. There are many possible explanations for her behavior including mental health problems which we know nothing about. And that's only if we assume everything said about her is true, and the sources seem less than credible. Real people can't just be reduced to simple labels like "Egirl" or "racist". My point isn't that she is a great person or hadn't done anything wrong, but that the Internet can dehumanize people (especially women) and judge them based on superficial values like apperance, sex, occupation or old tweets. Content creators certainly know this better than anyone. To me it seems like Emi's online persona is a self aware parody of this Egirl stereotype. Ultimately you can't trust anything you hear on the internet, but what makes me trust her is her relationship with the other people in drumsy's crew. It feels like they're good friends and their content despite their humor is very positive. I'd encourage people who read this to look at the recent videos she featured in before judging her based on hearsay. I may be entirely wrong of course, but I don't really care since all that's at stake for me is one bad take on a random online drama. Emi on the other hand has a lot to lose if random misinformation about her spreads on the internet. So I'll give her a chance.
@@MarthLuna-wq3nythey aren't coping they just aren't a mindless drone who gets angry towards someone a view click pointless video trying to bring drama for views
Ima go out and say it the video was pretty bad tbh like the dog pissing on the floor happeneds the messy apartment is both of them and black-face… just think
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Not the dawg pissin on the floor
If she took better care of her dog, man...
When you said something about the OF the subscriber button lit up for some reason.
I think she's changed, and we shouldn't judge people on their past on some things. Like Iget the being a stupid kid and not knowing thing. I grew up in a town in South East Illinois whose welcome sign said "Welcome to blahblah, no N words" until 2005 when the state forced them to change it. Now it says "Illegals deported in a box" or so I am told. But I grew up in that kind of community. And I didn't realize that these views and everything were wrong until I moved away for college and got away from that environment. So yeah you can be stupid about things and not know what you're doing or saying is wrong. Now once you learn that it's wrong, and you keep doing it that's when you definitely a bad person.
searched emiok after filian collab and that is...interesting
The dog pissing on the floor thing isn't actually that big of a deal, if you've owned dogs then you'd know that happens whether it's your fault or not, and it's not as if it causes great harm to the dog. The black face/racist stuff is cringe, but it's also old, and I'm sure most people back in those days at least said something similar.
The pedo-bait accusations she made were brain-dead, but that's what happens when you're on Twitter.
I don't think I can really have an opinion on her relationship shit since literally no one but them knows the full extent.
All in all, I don't think she's deserving of as much hate as she got and if people want to support her then I'm certainly not going to chastise them. Though I might make fun of you if you bought her OF.
Thats what I am saying her ex-boyfriend literally dehumanizing her and the internet joins him like there is clear evidence that she is going through some dark mental issue in her childhood at some point and her drug intake does not help her mentality either. Ppl forget she smokes weeds, she has a bong ffs, she is LITERALLY high in all her videos SHE NEEDS HELP DON'T MAKE IT WORST FOR HER.
The Dog was P1$$ing everywhere 😮
Everything mentioned still makes her much much more tolerant than me, lol
Still would.
I mean... This is pretty much normal middle European girl. Minus the dog stuff.
I LOVED Emi's character... WHY IS EVERYBODY I LOVE GET IN CONTROVERSEY
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Well i have know emi from the drumsy videos
i always tough she was very edgy and funny
but her past?? damn, i mean, i dont really care to be honest
but i don't think its a big deal
because she might be a "different" person now, surely
04:00 Yeah, imma stay away from women
is it really blackface or did she just spread Nutella on her face as a joke? Im not saying there wasn't any racist intent but that kind of showed up in the video without context other than you saying that she did blackface. but also yeah. this is really messed up. the abuse videos in this video are super disturbing to watch or even listen to and the twitter and discord messages are not at all what I expected from watching the other creators that colabed with her.. I feel like this video is probably just going to bring up the drama again though witch isnt good if she really is trying to change.
Yeah she is trying to move and I did highlight these actions were years ago and that she has calmed down since and improved her content. I mainly wanted to ask the question is if viewers or fans of hers would ever come back to someone that had a past like hers with the way she has improved her image and putting effort back in.
yeah I saw the part where you highlighted that. that's why I brought up the last part of the reply about her trying to change. I'm just saying that It might bring the drama back even if you mention that she's trying to change. Still a great video. I did want to see behind the scenes of her cuz she's the best of the people in drumsy's videos but she just randomly appeared out of nowhere and I couldn't find where she even came from and right as I was thinking that this vid showed up in my recommended. Its kind of sad how you can hear clearly that some of the jokes she makes aren't actual jokes and are just her trying to ask her friends for help but hiding it behind jokes.
Was the Nutella officially supposed to be racist tho? like... did she say it was blackface? It is one of those tiktok trends to just smear random stuff on your face and she might be doing something like that but I could be wrong.
To answer your question: Yeah I think they would still come back as long as she Is actually trying to change. Its not like she didn't do any pedo stuff or anything like talking strangely to minors... right? and the dog thing was really messed up but she didn't hit the dog or anything from what I understand and it looked well fed to me but i could be wrong . she still should have taken the dog out tho. that whole video felt weird to watch. @@Royaltyishere
did it a couple of times with the tagline "Hey, my n*****." Gonna assume it wasn't just cause she thought nutella on the face was funny
Why else would she put Nutella on her face ? Common sense
idk. people are putting nutella (and other things) on their faces a lot for trends. I was thinking that this was the same thing. @@sportgeek2028
i think its safe to say, shes changed and there is little saying she is still the same person she once was, so why bother judging her on a past controversy.
because what she did was bad even if she has changed
Maybe, but idk abt calling everything with hard evidence "controversy" lol. A grown ass woman abusing her bf, doing the racist shit she did, and all that twitter hypocrisy with accusing people of being p*dos is just malicious or at the very least evidence of a dogwater personality. No one just does those things, especially with your real life face attached to them. All that as of 2020-2022 at the latest, idk why it's "safe to assume she changed", but I also don't think she can't have. Her not doing it online is about the best you can ask for at this point lol
I agree with you. I genuinely hate that this was made and the video of her boyfreind literally just looked like he was just making shit worse. Like know what lets not try to deescalate or calm them while there clearly having an episode lets just scream at them and be passive aggressive. Then again im just a very empathetic person but this video is literally just digging up shit unnessasarily. Everyone has a past, everyone makes mistakes. Its how people learn and shit
@@hexitsroysiepls9279but when its on the internet its a different story. now the small portion of the world knows this and you'll never hear the end of it. If you never had such a popular appearance on the internet not a single thing irl would slip into the hands of the public. this is reality. you will be judged on a matter that should never have been public. sure the guy in the video comes off as an asshole yes but from another prospective she js coming off as a looney toon who cant take care of her pet but is clearly having a panic attack and he isnt doing anything to de-escalate it. some of us are here for the wild ride of entertainment because why should it matter to thousands of strangers you don't know and be on some unrealistic moral high ground of stupid drama like this lol. thats how i see it. sorry for the long text im just very very veeeeeeerrry tired atm
Even if they did changed for the better. You have to remember their bad deeds. Like the old phrase goes, don't judge a book by their cover. You don't know what bat shit crazy they have done in the past.
YOU CANT CALL OUT EMI
nah, I'll pass on Emi
Ok, so imo her character has always been the psychopath girl. Her character was probably an exaggerated version of herself at the time. She seems to have bettered herself away from these behaviors but continues to play the character because that's how she's known.
Good on you for accepting her change and not continuing to hate and ruin her more beyond what consequences she already had
all the points are valid except the anime stuff..(although it was pointless controversy based on the fact that trifling with the "anime" community (sex offender central) never goes well.)
Played vr chat. Had a seizure. Deleted vr chat
12:20 the usage of "jif" instead of "gif"...
According to Stephen Earl Wilhite who created the gif in 1987 it is pronounced Jif because it can be sent in a jif or jiffy.
@@nerdwithabeard9918 i hate that you're correct...
brother, we said it at the same time 10:02
Does this guy I have nothing else better to do?
the funny think is I confused the n-word with the Latin word for black (I am not from an English speaking country) in discord so that doesn't count and I gave never used twitter. I can fully in the right lol
This is some messy stuff.
Not trying to defend her here but as you can see Emi wasnt really "stable" and she is currently trying to change. I think this video is kinda unnesecary since this was years ago and shes matured a bit more and is trying to turn her life around. Bringing this drama to light once again is extremely disrespectful and i think this video is just a lazy content farm
Yeah I only like her character in Drumsy, I really do not like her especially since she has an onlyfans that’s disgusting
Inflation happened
Dude let it go. Past is past.
mental issues, severe.
It's like people don't fuck up. You know people change it pisses me off for people that can't understand it
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Ermm no Tanya’s my wife ive loved her longer than you
You have issues.
i can fix her
Only thing I'm suspicious about is the ex boyfriend, because from what I heard in the video, he said "my room" implying that he also lived in that extremely messy apartment. In the more recent video, her room is pretty clean, so it doesn't quite make sense to me why that apartment was extremely messy. Now I'm assuming he didn't help clean the apartment, and most likely contributed to the messiness. Stuff like not washing the dishes and doing chores around house probably stacked up overtime and caused her to have some sort of mental breakdown.
The other stuff, yea it is pretty bad.
somehow you missed the whole point of that video lol. the whole point of showing that was to show the animal negligence.
how can you go off of assuming all that just because a man said that anyway? we dont know if it was her we dont know if it was him. regardless in a relationship anyway it isnt and shouldn't be a he said she said issue of anything. your both adults and both held accountable. if it doesnt work out there are plenty fish in the sea. as the guy above me said tho that has nothing to do with taking care of your pet.
@@blerpderp6866 it’s her dog lil bro not his. pretty sure as a adult she’s accountable for her pet
The whole thing seems petty
@@nickiswickedd Not taking your dog out for a while isn't animal neglect. Also, negligence implies a pattern which one video can not establish.
Why the apartment is so messy…
she is hilarious
How should i watch drumsy without a bad conscience now :(
Dude she is changing man be happy for her she is improving. Here is one example I seen some of her videos and picture and her current home is very clean now
tbh i feel like ppl hate her more for being some weird emo goth egirl than the fact that she literally did blackface and was racist. i guess it just goes to show that most of the internet (including her) is from zinc arkansas.
I always enjoyed emi on the drumsy show. Didn't know she did stuff outside of that.
I gotta say there are a lot of assumptions going on here, my dog had the best life she could've after we rescued her but she'd piss on the floor when ever we'd fight just because she was scared.
The Nutella thing I totally don't think was blackface, about 5-6 years ago on cruise ship they did it as an activity, I've shown those pictures, doesn't make me racist.
And tbh a lot of that stuff did look like generic discord stuff.
Poor dog.
oh god i'm upset that i used to enjoy watching her on drumsy
got to the end still upset with myself
@@Lunarcanvas_music dude she is making the efforts to change be happy for her that her past is behind her now
@@minatonamikaze9393you know what you have a great point
Emi is ok. Best content and [I WANNA DIE] creator. My fav.
Tell me 1 American food that's actually American. Its just bigger portion of other countries food. BIG UP THE ENGLISH ROAST
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Buffalo wings, lobster roll, southern BBQ, a seafood boil, there's lots even hamburgers (some try to credit Germany but I suggest doing some research there)
Hell nah. As a southerner you just offended me. We shall duel at dawn.
Well that's kinda what America is. Just a bigger version of every country combined. That's why it's called the melting pot.
There's plenty. Gumbo, Jambalaya, Etouffee, Red beans and rice, and Po'Boys. And all those originated in just one out of the 50 states.
I was okay with her doing black face, but not walking her dog and making her ex look toxic by trying to get him to get angry, was the "no" for me
10:05 hit a bad point of her life SHE WAS ALREADY AT A BAD POINT OF HER LIFE AND ALL WE KNOW IS THIS START IN HER CHILDHOOD. HER WEED ADDICTION PROBABLY CAME FROM HER CHILDHOOD.
edit: wow youtube is so much nicer and understand the situation for her unlike the websites like reddit and twitter just shits on her while be blind sited on whats wrong with, what is causing this conflict, whats the history, etc
The dislikes are just a bunch of haters, they're fucking coping right now.
The Nutella and the dog situation were fine, what wasn’t fine was
Her playing dumb acting like she has no clue what antisemitism is and what she said in the discord chats the whole Loli thing can be over looked I don’t really support either side in the matter
the dog situation was NOT fine buddy
@@iszaaccc from a real world perspective? Yeah stuff like that happens all the time people being to busy to walk there dog while yes it is wrong that can be looked passed compared to the other things
"Nutella thing" was really multiple instances of putting some brown or dark shit on her face with the tagline "hey my niggas" or just flat out dropping hard rs in chat
That dog is clearly being abused, wtf are you on about. Look at how ghoulish and skinny it is. Probably locked up in that fucking apartment all day.
@@sportgeek2028 it was fine
I would just like to say that I'm not a fan of your reductive view of emi and her fanbase.
E girl or not, I don't think its fair to assume that the only reason someone would watch and/or defend her would be to thirst after her as if that's the only thing she brings to the table.
I personally know her from drumsy's youtube chanell which you briefly mentioned even though it's where she is most active nowadays and where she very much puts effort into her humor. A lot of it might be edgy but some people cope with their issues through humor and I think emi is a prime example of this. I for one find her funny. I don't doubt she had some real issues in the past, but she seems to have changed a lot and I don't see a reason to berate her based on loose evidence that might or might not have been taken out of context. There are many possible explanations for her behavior including mental health problems which we know nothing about. And that's only if we assume everything said about her is true, and the sources seem less than credible.
Real people can't just be reduced to simple labels like "Egirl" or "racist". My point isn't that she is a great person or hadn't done anything wrong, but that the Internet can dehumanize people (especially women) and judge them based on superficial values like apperance, sex, occupation or old tweets. Content creators certainly know this better than anyone. To me it seems like Emi's online persona is a self aware parody of this Egirl stereotype.
Ultimately you can't trust anything you hear on the internet, but what makes me trust her is her relationship with the other people in drumsy's crew. It feels like they're good friends and their content despite their humor is very positive.
I'd encourage people who read this to look at the recent videos she featured in before judging her based on hearsay.
I may be entirely wrong of course, but I don't really care since all that's at stake for me is one bad take on a random online drama. Emi on the other hand has a lot to lose if random misinformation about her spreads on the internet.
So I'll give her a chance.
okay yappatron i aint reading that
coping hard right now.
@@MarthLuna-wq3nythey aren't coping they just aren't a mindless drone who gets angry towards someone a view click pointless video trying to bring drama for views
@@DemonFoxRose cope
Uh as a black person i don’t think she was black facing cus what about the peanut butter baby
it's just chocolate it's not real blackface (I hate myself for saying that)
Ima go out and say it the video was pretty bad tbh like the dog pissing on the floor happeneds the messy apartment is both of them and black-face… just think
Ong the racism is kinda a turn on but the black face part is not
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she isn't controversial she's just funny
Cool video. Disliked the video because you're British.
I disliked your comment because I'm British
I disliked ur comment cuz I’m british
Disliked your comment beacouse you dont respect the Brit's
@@plumaloy good man
I disliked because I’m British
Also you can’t come at her over the zero 2 cosplay everyone thinks she’s fine I’m 16 btw
What is the onlyfans
So young... So innocent...
@@Duolingo_bird2427Hes asking what the accounts called 💀
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