IV BEEN SCAMMED.. THIS REGISTRATION NO LONGER EXISTS.
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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i think making people aware of the real risk is the right thing to do! well played lad! to many un honest people on this planet!
He is one of the only youtubers that has stayed true to his roots still down to earth and seems a genuinely nice guy. I've been here since the early days, and you deserve all the recognition this channel is getting
Met him yesterday and can honestly say what an absolute top bloke, such a genuine guy and treats everyone the same.
Agree, fair play to him for taking the high ground 💪
Scammers and thieves are the worst life forms in this world, all said I believe you'll come up with an even better one.. Let's get it!
Depending on how you gauge worse, scammers and thieves are the ultimate life form on this planet in terms of wealth. Jamie’s unfortunate in this situation but the guy that done it only robbed from the biggest thieves on the planet…
😢I’m a ex bank robber and support the channel
What about them WHITE SUPR€MACISTS CONOLIZ€RS?
I think nonces and rapists are probably worse. 😂
Mate he put his plate on here what does he expect
Jamie you need to go all DMO/LLF and make a 15 part story of you chasing them down so you can recover your £600 through ad rev! 😂
Just be happy it's only 600. Some people lose everything to scammers.
Stay safe.
Sorry to hear this news , but you are being the bigger man in how you dealt with it. Good on you.
lol you're sorry to hear he lost 600 quid. poor, poor guy. how will he get over this devastating loss. i'll let the kids in gaza know he's having a bad end of year while i play the violin too. get.a.grip!
Ditching your pride and letting others learn from your mistake shows what a fine young man you are Jamie. Your mum done good! 👍👍
Honestly mate you’ve got away lightly! It’s a pain but could be far worse than a £600 plate. I work in the plate industry and we’ve seen people lose out on hundreds of thousands many times - typically due to scam transactions with fake docs rather than fraudulent purchases. I suppose the only positive is that this was through no fault of your own and you didn’t make a mistake that led to being scammed etc. Hopefully smooth sailing from here on out 🙏
I am surprised there was no option to appeal, and it took this long for them to revoke the plate.
Except it's not, because there is NO option to appeal... 🙄
@@mikey_bbthere is always the option to appeal… you just need to take the fuckers to court
I don't understand why the DVLA didn't just say. The only way you can keep it is to pay them the amount that should have been paid to them initially by the fraudster who got their payment cancelled. That would have been the smartest response from them and leaving both parties happy.
Lastly, though from another angle. You were knowingly driving illegally anyway with the number spacing you mentioned. What was wrong with driving it legally spaced anyway? We all know what the reg was trying to say. I'm an older guy, so I don't understand why the younger generation do this to their number plates. If it's an illegal plate, then the car is not insured. So becomes another issue when driving around the streets. Better safe than sorry and drive legally and insured.
@@obicoke1810 because the DVLA cannot be shown to support fraud - any element of fraud & the reg is revoked 🤷🏽♂️ that is the correct course of action to take, as it deals with the fraud in about the most serious way.
Having an illegally spaced numberplate doesn't invalidate your insurance 🤣 at worst your insurer may refuse to pay out for your claim due to an undisclosed modification (realistically they wouldn't as the plate is still very much legible & that alone wouldn't be sufficient to cancel cover), however they would still pay 3rd party claims as they are legally bound to - that means you have the legal minimum of 3rd party insurance, so you couldn't be prosecuted for no insurance either
@@obicoke1810I'm a younger guy and can't understand why people do it either. Lots of people I know don't technically have valid insurance, Probably why an 'old mans' 2 seater sports car was cheaper to insure for me than a 320d.
To be honest i'm glad you shared it. Thanks..If the price wasn't a massive amount between the private seller and similar plate from DVLA, then i'd go to the DVLA directly now just for the added security and lack of potential hassle.
It's good to see enough time has passed since then as well, that you're able to stay composed and smile when talking about it, because regardless of how much money is involved, the thought of potentially being scammed is always going to be enraging in the beginning.
Sorry to hear about this. This situation reiterates my decision to never buy a personalised number plate. You don’t own it and DVLA can remove it whenever they want.
Of course you own it whilst it remains on your car, and while you keep your V5 safe, people only loose them when they sell the car before the removal of the plate online, you need to put the plate on retention in your name, it's people who don't know the system, that's why they loose them, never ever sell your vehicle before you put the plate on retention!
@@sen5908You do not own the registration number. You only own the right to display it. DVLA can remove this right should they see fit. Often this happens in fraud cases or with registrations that have been repeatedly displayed incorrectly.
@@sen5908 not entirely correct, if you get done for mis-spacing of the characters the DVLA can withdraw the plate. They usually only do it on the third offence but it does happen. You are paying for the right to display the number but you never truly own it outright. The whole thing is a massive con as DVLA sell plates that they know for sure will be mis-spaced.
@@bostonbikebits6539 I have never displayed a plate that is mis spaced, mine are dateless, this is people who buy them under a grand, and try and make them into names, once you get into the thousands, there is no need to do that
@@sen5908just bought a plate and it does say they can just withdraw it.
Good shout out Jamie, appreciate the humble honesty 👍🏻👊🏻
Wise words, young man. 👍🏾 Thanks for the warning 💥
Well done for bringing this up J.
If you stop just one fraudulent purchase it’s been worth mentioning!
Mate what a guy you are to be able to have that confidence to share with the world what has happened. How some people sleep at night I dont know. I actually came across a few regs on the dvla which read OF68SED, GAS 11T, and GAS 94S. Hope this can help a bit mate. Keep the content coming absolutely loving it!
Can always go via a broker (middle man) for the registration sale/purchase. That should create cover for both parties, and commonly used for higher value plates
So the guy bought it fraudulently so then whoever owns it has to give it up? Ridiculous!
It’s unfortunate but not ridiculous
It’s mad enit. Bit really You never actually OWN a number plate. Just the right to show the plate on your vehicle
The dvla are not brokers or middle men it easier just to delete. It's not there money so there not fussed at the outcome
@@jason21jburg it is ridiculous the guy who bought it fraudulently should receive the consequences not Jamie !
@@sunnygtir technically not stolen when it’s paid for by the previous guy. The trouble is it was bought with a stolen card no doubt.
Darn, that's bad news. Sorry to hear about this. You handled it really well.
you're sorry to hear he lost 600 quid. i think he's doing okay still lol. lets not get the violins out just yet.
A lot more low life scammers cropping up especially on Facebook groups and marketplace. I think with plates better to buy through a plate broker so you have some security there.
Appreciate you sharing this and please you and others be careful especially during this time of year of gift buying
Facebook marketplace is full of scammers... i report it and Facebook blocks me, just shows ya facebook is a scam
Appreciate the honesty and openess, hopefully it can save some people some trouble
A further heads up for everyone. The Plate regulations have been relatively recently changed, so I'm expecting a crackdown on the non-compliant ones out there any time soon
Plates need, to use the official font and size lettering, reflective background with a BS number and makers postcode, correct spacing, black letters (3D letters are now legal but 3D effect ones are not) and a minimum of 11mm of background around the letters (no requirements on shape though so that could be fun)
It's a £100 fine for a non-compliant plate and on the third strike DVLA can take your plate off you
TheDVLA love to snatch plates back , hold on to them for a period of time then auction them off , just like you being unable to transfer a plate off a car without a valid MOT , and if a older car with a valuable plate they will often want to inspect the car, it’s a easy way for them to snatch plates back them sell them on In auction at a later date, it’s a big money spinner for them
The DVLA do not re-issue previously issued plates.
Big up for keeping it humble Jamie! 👏🏼
I’m sure god has a better plan for you! 😊😉
Brilliant video.
Explains alot that i didnt know.
Even after purchase multiple plates over the years, i never knew this couldve happened
Thanks for sharing this, I brought a car a few months ago and the dealership were bookey with the documentations- it’s good to remind us to stay alert
Jamie being one of the most grounded legit nice honest UA-camrs out there as always👍 respect the honesty lad✌️
To tell you the truth i dont give a damn about what plate is on my car
mannn thats a madness!! Im pissed for you bro!! the way your puting this online to warn others is a true representation of how trully humble you are and shows who you are as a person. Cheers brother.
So many scams these days. I've been done a couple of times and I used to run presentations on how to avoid online scams! 😅 Good decision to choose to let it go and use the experience to help inform others.
Bro you're one of the most humblest and biggest legends, you'll defo be blessed with bigger and better W's!
It happens to the best of us, taking the L, moving on and letting it go is like weight reduction for your soul
Wow
Thanks for being very honest.
Problem is you make scammers aware of a good scam at the same time as warning others.
Always “buy the seller”. Whether you’re buying a house, car, watch, insurance, boat, clothes, number plate, etc… the quality of the seller always pays dividends.
thank you for coming out and sharing this information. it keeps us all aware and of these scammers. it could have been alot more worst like prison or some felony. thank god it didnt.
Call that guy and let him know you have a "certain set of skills" 😂😂😂
Sick and tired of the scammers. I hope you'll get a cooler plate. Put it up in the local Pub.
As soon as I saw the title, I knew I would of been due to a credit card issue, it happens a lot. but the way the dvla handles it is very unfair especially when have logs of anyone who's owned the plate and even the first person who purchased it. They could do more rather than just erase existence of the plate.
The would require the DVLA employing sensible people capable of thinking for themselves. Having dealt with the DVLA there must be a low upper limit on IQ in their employment criteria
This is so mad. I think private plates are soo overrated, the fact they can just revoke it makes it even worse.
Everyone can get scam, no matter how smart you are, theres always moments that you just not thinking straight and some scum bag takes advantage of that.
Sorry for your experience and thanks for sharing with us.
Always best to share both good and bad experiences, keeping it real dude 😎👍
Scammers are terrible people but thank you for being so genuine to tell us your story you’re a legend dude keep it GASSED dude ❤
The new editing has taken your videos up another level i didn’t know existed
Such bad news man sorry to hear that there are some real lowlife‘s out there
Keep pushing bro..I was also scammed today..this is just a small hurdle..
This is so complex when buying anything second hand
You could buy a car from someone
They could have bought it and then done a charge back or paid using a stolen card or it could have been a husband who used his wife's credit card then they got divorced.
It all happened way back so it's utterly unfair for DVLA to bin the plate
I would defo seek legal advice - maybe from blackbelt barrister?
DVLA should be held accountable, and I think it's incorrect that they can just tell you that there is no way to appeal. It's a government organisation, and you have the right to challenge them.
How on earth can you look into this when you buy a plate. It could have been bought 3 users before . There is no way to know who bought what and with what.
If you are not the owner & scammer of the chain of transactions, then this make no sense for them to punish you. Even if it say this decision cannot be appealed i would try to at least recover legal ownership of this plate, there's no reason for me to be punished for something i did not commit.
It's like if you were to buy some rare but not really famously know painting then 5 years later you are being told now it has no value because it was stolen. Nah i call bs, it still has the same value, your plate still has the same value.
Your a top guy jamie! Thanks for putting it out there sure you've helped plenty of people with this one👍
Appreciate the heads up Jamie, had no idea about this .
F the numberplate, this is the cars and you, we are here for.. keep it up💪🏼
Love your attitude. It’s done you live you learn. Why bring extra hassle to your door . Life is a massive learning curve. Another day another lesson
Having to take a rather disgusting scammer L.its time for much more W unfortunate that this happen to you Jamie but bringing the awareness to the channel.💯top man
Such a down to earth and great guy, been watching the channel a while now and fastly becoming my favourite, sorry to hear of the story on this man. Power on
Awesome - thanks for sharing! Informative & great message.... shame you lost out though!
👊🏽
Sounds like the dvla doesn't like private plate sellers 😂
I've had my plate for nearly 60 years now and I have lost count of the cars its been on. The only reason I bought it was to keep the car dateless. I have had so many conversations with total strangers over the years asking what it stood for OLO = Only Live Once. It's on 13" plate fully legal and is the finishing touch. My advice if you are thinking about buying a plate think long term.
Thank you. This will be useful to others.
WOW thats a shocker, whats worse is the fact the plate gets taken out of circulation 😩 gutted for u bud
Good man Jamie, truth and facts is always helpful to the next person, respect keep up the fantastic content
I’ve got 40 plates I’ve been buying since 1991 when they had no real value, only the plates that are No.1 OR 3 digit are truly expensive, letters first are more valuable than numbers first, 90% of the plates are worthless but people are trying it on, be very very careful when you buy. Anything that’s joined up or miss placed to make a name is pretty worthless. One of my plates had 2 digits very slightly closer together, I got a police letter and a DVLA letter telling me if I didn’t change it the DVLA would confiscate the plate if I didn’t get a BS standard plate, I changed it I don’t need the agro and the plate is worth around 25k-40k. Be careful out there!
So sorry to hear this. But thank you for speaking about your experience to maybe help someone in the future
There is literally nothing you could’ve done differently to avoid this. That’s the scary thing.
I got scammed. I bought my dream car, the 2005 mini Cooper s r53 supercharged for $2200. I had it for two months and when I finally tried to get it registered in my name, it came back as stolen. I lost $2200 😢 I was devastated.
Great Information Jamie, thank for letting us know.
Kudos for telling all, a lot of people would have been embarrassed and not spoken about it, life’s a learning curve luckily it was £600 and not £6000.
Gutted for u mate thanks for the video and wise words
Good that you highlighted this scam, i see so many people selling plates on car groups, i wonder how many are scams 🤔
Personally never liked personal plates, they spell nothing unless illegal spaced and you squint, plus the DVLA make a cash grab every time you change car and i don't want to give the dvla any more than i have to 🤣 each to their own
Top man for sharing the story, hopefully it helps someone which I'm sure it will.
I had my plate for the 21st bday...was £400... absolute steal 😊
So sorry to hear this Jamie - unfortunately people can be like electric cars - dull and false
DVLA are absolute dinosaurs sometimes. Why wouldn't they just allow you the option to pay DVLA for the reg as I'm guessing they're salty cos they didn't get paid in the first place.
It's the same as when a vehicle gets scrapped, the reg goes with the vehicle. Surely when DVLA receive the log book stating the vehicle is scrapped they could just scrap the VIN and resell the reg? I've missed out on a perfect reg for my son through this, car was scrapped 20 years ago so can't have the reg. Mad.
A valid warning, particularly with the high prices of some plates. Fortunately mine was bought straight from the DVLA.
I would raise a complaint with the DVLA. They have breached their own rules. The V750 can only be unassigned if the Secretary of State revokes your right. Separately once the certificate of entitlement has been allocated to you then it’s a confirmation of legality by DVLA and you have the right. Whilst this may have been purchased fraudulently it is DVLA issue once it has been allocated again through them.
Ive been a victim of plate cloning. Had fines coming in and the car that cloned my plate was only 2 miles from where i lived. The headache and worry of trying to sort it.police done nothing!
I’m not commenting on the gram until I watch the video😂 watches the video realises uk plate prices are utterly insane, sorry you’ve gotten scammed Jamie, the cheeky bastard.
Jamie your a real one for sharing your experience and educating others .
Thanks for sharing , never really understood why people would pay 100k for a plate
More money than sense
Bro trust nobody best motto
Unlucky mate but fair play for doing the vid
It’s a shame such a sick plate has been taken from you Jamie, hopefully another comes up that fits the cupra. I came up with one (dunno if it exists or can be brought) -VR6 1 CUP and space it that way 🤷♂️
You should take it to the small claims court as I'm sure you'd win the case easily. Also, I find it strange that the DVLA didn't allow you the opportunity to pay for the plate directly from them. Why the need to scrap it completely?.... that's bizarre!
Who does Jamie bring to court? He doesn’t even know who bought it fraudulently
@@ciaran1449 DVLA
Who knew, thanks for sharing!❤
Joke's on the scammer - you just made more than the £600 purchase price with this video. Big respect Jamie - the best UK car guy youtuber! 🙌
Arrh bugger.. I'm the guy who saw this on FB and asked the bloke to get in touch with you as it's the perfect plate for one your whips.. did wonder why didn't see it much in your videos since then, nothing but beef 🤷
Your such a good bloke and to have this done to you is disgusting 🤬🤬
DVLA dragging that out for so long, stinks to me.
UK is absolutely riddled with scammers for absolutely everything available, FB marketplace is the worst by miles, saw a guy selling 42 cars all with exactly the same description 🤣 anything from Leon's, t5 vans to ford focuses
Bigger and better always bro you got this ✌️
One of the reasons why I got mine via the DVLA website, in case anything ever happened, there would be proof on their systems that I paid for it etc. This is the problem with 3rd party sites that can arrange the plates for you (which in turn always end up more expensive than just going via the DVLA site directly!). I've never trusted buying a plate from someone, too many scammers and scum around for this sort of thing to take place! Decent video though showing what can and does happen Jamie, just gutting it happened in the first place!
Same i used the 3rd party to find the plate since theyre search engine is bettery but purchased from dvla as its definitely the cheapest way
They don't have very good plates, unless you get them from the DVLA auction, regtranfers are good they have been going for years
Sorry to hear this mate . But we all know you turns them L into W all the best
They are c#nts, I'm glad you toke it with a smile on your face and thanks for letting us know so we can be aware of yet another scam to look out for in life.
In Cumberland, I see so many plates worth more than the car they're on. Can't imagine what it's like darn sarf.
If things ever seem too good a deal to be true it’s usually the case don’t worry I’ve learned the hard way myself more than a few times in life. Once bought an rx8 for £600 a week later engine blew up 😂
Also, how do you avoid getting scammed though? say you were to be 'smart', how do we do that? Never buy a second hand plate?
Buy from dvla directly, avoid random people on social media claiming to be trustworthy
WOW! If you had bought it through a number plate website, would they have compensated you?????
Should have purchased via official channels, you were scammed, but at least you are sharing the story. If you can save one person being Scammed it’s worth it.
You’d like to think that the DVLA would do checks when you register the plate against a vehicle.
Common sense should tell you not to trust strangers from Instagram, especially with something as important as license etc
Exactly the same thing happened to me buy only from a trusted website to prevent anything like this
Good on you Jamie for putting this out there, no matter how streetwise we are, it shows anyone can be scammed. If this stops one person from making the same mistake then you’ve done your job. Legally you do have the right to appeal (regardless of the statement on the letter) and I’m sure a barrister would help you with that, however the cost to do so would far out way the cost of the plate. For DVLA to scrap the plate rather than return it to its original owner would suggest that the plate was never issued in the first place and this is an internal breach rather than external. If it was a a false credit card payment or fake bank transfer then it would have to be returned to the original owner in the same way a car that has been sold on whilst still under finance (without the finance being cleared) means it’s returned to the finance company as the actual owners of the vehicle. Either way you haven’t taken an L you’ve shown the rest of us the pitfalls to avoid and that’s a win in anyone’s book. 👍🇬🇧
Actually, the registration numbers are all owned by the DVLA - no-one owns their personalized registration number, they merely buy the right to use/display it. This is the most likely reason why they can't return it to the original 'owner' & if there is any fraud element, then it will be revoked. There is no option to appeal the decision as it's been quite clearly investigated as fraud 🤷🏽♂️
The only legal recourse Jamie has is against the person he bought it from, but that could turn out messy/expensive...
@@mikey_bb Correct, you are only paying for the right to display the plate on your vehicle or hold the plate on retention, however unless you break the law the DVLA can not legally take that plate from you (by breaking the law however can be as simple as not displaying the plate as it should be, correct spacing etc) people don’t realise that if you have been stopped by the police for your number plate they can report that to the DVLA if you reoffend and it is reported to the DVLA they can revoke the number plate. In this case however none of those applied, Jamie would have needed the necessary documentation, retention certificate etc from the seller for him to be able to register the plate to his vehicle. For the DVLA to then issue a new V5 to Jamie with the GA55 EED for his vehicle, all checks should have been carried out by the DVLA before issuing it, this is not an overnight process and therefore had it been a fake bank transfer or a stolen credit card that purchased the registration prior to Jamie then this would have come to light. For the DVLA to carry out the investigation over a 2 year period and not the Police then this would appear to be an internal issue, any element of fraud would by law result in a Police investigation. A way to dissuade the general public from perusing the matter further though is to state that they have no right to appeal, this however is not fact and should Jamie have wished to contest it a lawyer would be able to challenge the decision in court (the cost to Jamie would far out weigh the cost of the plate, however had it been the number plate F1 for instance, I guarantee it would be challenged and the DVLA would lose as there had been no Police involvement and Jamie had not committed any illegal act enabling the DVLA to revoke the number plate
@@stevee8920 as I've said, there is no right to appeal 🤷🏽♂️ you could try to take them to court but you'd lose...hard. DVLA would revoke the plate F1 too if it had been got via fraudulent means (police involvement or not). The DVLA investigate & have a power to take people to court re enforcement - they don't need the police to be involved.
The only legal recourse he would have is to take the seller of the right to display the plate to court to get his money back.