The Blindfold Epiphone vs Gibson Challenge
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Give him the same one 4 times
Kappa
TheSoggySponge kappa
xDDDDDDDDDDDD hahahahhaa would be the best trolling ever xD
That would honestly be extremely amusing to watch
YES PLEASE
funny thing would be to tell him that there are Gibson Guitars.. but handle 4 different Epiphone Les Pauls :D
OOoo!! Interesting idea!
Rob Chapman Epi std, studio and tribute :P do it to capt. next time :D
jaskicd and then an ltd to really fuck with them
jaskicd and then an ltd to really fuck with them
Jack Reavy no ltd they suck
4 landmarks in England I want to see when I visit: Stonehenge, white cliffs of Dover, Buckingham Palace and Andertons.
When in doubt smash the instrument against the floor, if it's still playing, congrats, that's an epiphone.
Pablo Rages
Haha STD
Pablo Rages Read the original comment again - he doesn't say "if it's still playing the same", he says "if it's still playing".
You sound very bitter... jealousy perhaps?
Pablo probably has buyers remorse. The Gibson was probably way out of his budget and can't stand to think that an Epi can sound anywhere near as good.
hahaha
Drop it on the head stock to be sure.
that sad feeling when you realize blindfolded Chappers plays better than me
I believe that one should learn to play without looking at the guitar from the start, it doesn't look very professional if you have to keep looking at the neck to not mess up
You know, not everyone plays to be a professional. A lot of people play for the joy of it.
@@powerbound4162Idk, Slash looks at his guitar neck all the time and he looks like a legend making sure his fingers keep up with his shredding talent
"Congratulations, you know your shit!"
Best moment in the video, along with the outtake.
Either that or
"No sneaky touching knobs".
When I started playing, I couldn't tell the difference either. Now that I'm a better player, I actually can tell the difference, it is very minute, but it's there. This being said, you can easily upgrade the Epi and get a proper setup for it that rivals a Gibson. And for the price? Oh, hands down, the budget or college player should invest in amps, cabs, pedals, other gear, fixing your shitty car, and whatever else before making the leap to a Gibson when Epis are this good.
The Epi Probuckers rival or exceed Gibson pickups. Plus some limited edition model Epiphones come with Gibson pickups. My point is you can buy an Epi with upgraded pickups.
Jon Doh
That's not what I'm saying, the Gibson just plays a bit better because of it's shape and finish, and quality. The pickups could both be '57 classics on an Epi and a Gibby but the Gibson would just play better because it's a better built instrument
every Gibson Les Paul I've played had a crisp, tight sound I've never heard on any other guitar. Every Epi Les Paul I've played sounded dull in comparison...and it's not just because of the pickups. idk, if you can't tell the difference, just in sound, between the two, there's something wrong.
taradead I've played both i modified my first epiphone and it was amazing. then i played a natural gibson les paul and my mind was blown. my heart sank and my head sweated. no de tuning after bends always in tune when strumming chords. there just is no excuse after that really. Gibsons are way fatter sounding and are better for recording in the studio. les paul great for beginner and moderate players, but i jizz all over a real les paul anyway. if only i have 10,000 dollars too throw down. most people who have them are pros who get them from money they received from gigging, making records, and hobbyists. i wouldn't feel comfortable practicing on one for hours though. epiphone is great for that.
Jon Doh
I actually disagree with this statement. I have a 1960 Tribute Plus that shipped with real Gibson 57 Classics and my little brother just got an Epi Standard with the Probuckers, and we played both through my Blackstar HT-40 Special Edition (Celestion Vintage 30) and my guitar sounded way better. much more clean and sustained better as well. Is it worth the extra 150 bucks? I say yes, but you can always upgrade the regular Epi in the future if money doesn't allow for a $650 guitar right away.
Wow, that 3rd one, the Gibson Studio, sounded incredible to me.
godfatherNYC
I agree, sounded really great.
I just wish the les Pauls had a more playable neck like my esp ec 1000. I've gotten quite used to the way it feels. and I'm hooked.
RemoteAbductionArm the studio would be my choice and it's price is better than the other Gibson's
Yeah man! I'm with you. That was the best of the bunch by far! (Simply in my opinion- so don't everyone start crying-lol)
Rob looks like 'The Predator' with the mask and the dreadlocks.
you should do blindfold tests where you just play the guitar, no feeling around for knobs or headstocks cause those can be clear giveaways.
exactly
They've done that
he clearly feels the headstock of the Gibson std, which is a totally different shape to the Epi headstock... CHEAT
I think they should do blindfold tests where they don't play them at all, and should also be no where near them because they can always smell the difference between those Gibson and Epiphones hahaha
TALK less PLAY M O R E ! !! !!! !!!! !!!!!
My god that silverback amp has to be the best thing I've ever heard what a beast !
Thank you sir ;-)
agree
Rob Chapman Where can I get a silverback? I love the sound.
It sounds so good that it's now in my top 3 list of amps that I have to decide on which I want to buy.
Snyder-
Check out the dealer list at the Victory Amps website.
How about a SG test between, Gibson, Epiphone and Tokai
You should get more up votes .
Jaroslav Roytapel I thought the same!
I don't think Tokai can be in an Anderton's video. But I upped anyway.
Norman Zealand Malana What makes you say that?
Tokai was kicked out of the us because they were making gibson copies better than the originals for lower prices. Afaik, gibson sellers cant sell tokais jor advertise them.
Glad you guys enjoyed this video & I can promise you that Rob & I genuinely were not trying to feel for headstock or scratch plate differences - we were simply trying to guess which model was which based on how the neck felt & what the guitar sounded like. If any of you get a chance to try a similar experiment you really should.
Would it be possible to do a double blind test you could then call it scientific.
There is known fenomina were by a test administrator can unknowingly give suttle hints to the test subject.
A double blind test solves this by removing any bias from the test administrator and test subject I'd love to see the results of that. Perhaps a blind screen were the test subject puts hands through and plays the instrument ensuring the test administrator also is behind a screen.
Sionyn Jones phenomena
I like the idea but something with more entropy is called for something like a lottery machine or bingo machine. Dice suffer from a tendency bias relertive to throwing a dice.
I don't know if its been suggested already but it would have been funny to have him play the epiphone tribute with the Gibson pickups to confuse you guys more
I have done an actual "hearing test" myself. I recorded 15 different guitars, back to back, all playing the same passage. With no level changes, I mixed vintage guitars with modern guitars, American made, with Chinese made, expensive with cheap,...NO ONE has passed the test yet. I even made it multiple choice,...NO ONE has gotten them all right. Hidden in the test is a Hannah Montana guitar, some have mistaken this for the vintage guitar. With variables this close, look dudes,..it really doesn't matter in the end, just play good music.
It's 2019 and this is still one of my most favorite videos by you guys
Most Epiphones have amazing quality, their biggest draw backs are the pickups. I feel the Epi. guitars have weak tone unless they're the select few Epi with the Burst Bucker IIs
+CrushedJustice well my eip explorer has better pickups than my cort m200 but that costs even less
It's the simple solution that I would do, but most don't want to bother with investing in an extra hundred bucks to improve a guitar. They prefer to buy something already setup.Gee Bill
Gee Bill
That's why I said a simple solution that "I" would do. Regular consumer wouldn't bother with tinkering with what they want out of a guitar.
Except Casinos. I have one and it is great. If I could only have one guitar in the world I would choose the Epiphone Casino definitely.
+CrushedJustice And the hardware. At least change the cheap nut, and the bridge.
In all honesty, while sound SHOULD be the only concern to be of any importance, the honest truth is that most people buy Gibson over Epiphone because of the branding. Not to say that is bad at all because a Gibson can be quite an investment piece that will hold similar value for quite awhile and truly is made of better wood, better inlays, etc so you are buying a high quality guitar. Tone wise they may sound similar or nearly identical, but it's the branding and the feeling of "I'm playing a $5,000 machine that Jimmy, Keith, Clapton, Perry, Slash and countless others have played." And just gives you that feeling of importance, and if you feel a little boost of speciality or importance, it will reflect in your playing and you'll have a phenomenal night jamming. I've owned my Honeyburst LP Standard for over 7 years and every time I play it, I get that same little tingle up my spine saying, "You're playing something legendary." Who knows, maybe that's just my opinion though. 🎸
+Nicholas Robbins I thought that the Epiphone in the video really did sound less nice though. Would you not agree?
when i bought my guitar (Gibson LP) I tested Gibson vs Epiphone for myself.
so my opinion is that the the Gibson wich is the 2014 Clasic had more sustain und sounded more fat.
In the end i bought the Gibson because for me it had a better handling and better Sound.
But, and that is a big point Epiphone is cheaper and Not bad at all and everyone has to decide wich is better for them
+Nicholas Robbins If you have both, you dont care... with good pickups (emg or seymour etc) epiphones are good as a gibson for sound of course.
+Nicholas Robbins Well yesterday I brought my 500€ Epiphone to a friends house for a jam session and also compared it to his 1500€ Gibson and it instantly blew my mind how much better my playing actually sounds. His Gibson was not only lighter and thiner, but it just felt so much better playing it. Recently I noticed that I just couldn't progress tone wise, I was always wondering if it's my play style or the amp or my guitar which sounded not so nice. So after pluging the Gibson into my amp I clearly can tell the guitar makes a big difference!
+Nicholas Robbins I have an Epiphone, and it sounded like just the one in the video. The tone is a bit rough, but the feel is awesome.
Does the Epiphone Les Paul have a secret compartment where you can hide your marijuana like the Gibson model?
Klatu Baradanikto Yes. Yes they do.
Dogheadj
Excellent!
I don't smoke marijuana but I have friends that do.
I will usually put one of those spring loaded snake things in the secret compartment and leave my guitar out where they can see it.
When they open it the snake pops out scaring the hell out of them.
There is just something about the look on a stoned guys face when he is startled that makes it way more funnier than a normal person.
Maybe it's the way they slump back with their mouths opened in disbelief saying, "Oh wow man,..not cool, not cool."
LOL,..people who smoke pot are funny.
They don't make very good president though.
Kloobis Skooda yes, but it's secret as you said
Joe Guitar
I have been going into music stores up and down the East coast of the U.S. hiding thousands of dollars in the secret compartments of Epiphone Les Pauls.
In one particular guitar whose location is a secret, I have hidden 25 one once ingots of pure gold.
psshhhhh it's a secret
I would like to see some of these blindfold tests where there is a first round where somebody else plays the guitar to see if the guitar can be identified from sound alone.
The results of such a test would be totally useless for a guitar player, because playing and listening are a totally different experience.
I get that - I am suggesting that this is the very reason such a test would be useful.
kayosiiii
are you saying that a blindfold test where people just listen is useful, only because it demonstrates to people exactly how useless such a test is?
Because, in that case, I'm not sure I agree - Some people will be smart enough to figure it out, but there are a lot of fools out there who genuinely believe that the sound is the only thing that's important, and feel that the existence of these kind of tests on the internet somehow validates their narrow minded perspective.
Not at all - I am simply interested in knowing if there is a noticible difference in the sound being produced as well as noticible differences in how the instrument feels to play.
I would also like to know about differences in reliability, but that is a bit beyond the scope this sort of thing.
If it makes you feel better maybe a test where the instruments are not plugged in - in addition to a listening test
kayosiiii Didn't they do that in the 2 & 1 Gibson video?
Has anyone noticed the fact that he's playing INSANE blindfolded?
Is this meant as a compliment?
I know, I'm pointing it out because I want people to know that he's a great player! But thanks for the feedback :)
Yes its supposed to be a compliment
Nicholas Manoukian Do you watch the guitar when you play? Half the time i'll have my eyes close or watching some other stuff shredding up.
No sometimes Ill learn a song with me eyes closed too. But the way he's playing, it sounds like he's been blind and lean red guitar that way lol
I have an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro and it is amazing. It is a 2012 model and they have upgraded them a lot. Nothing like the Epiphones I played in the 80's and 90's.I mean what do you want for under $500? Not a Gibson, that's for sure... and yeah I had to set it up myself, not a big deal. When I played in a band I used a 76 Gibson Explorer and to be perfectly honest it much nicer but nowadays I am just using a crappy tubeless amp and playing for myself so it is really hard to compare. The Epiphone is all most people need, unless you are recording or just have thousands of dollars to burn.
If I'm just starting out would you suggest an epiphone?
I would. The Mexican Fender Stratocasters are great cheap guitars too if you like Fenders. Go to a music store and try them all.
owwwwcccchhhh I have multiple epiphones, I love the hell out of them, just stay away from the low end models, the les paul std versions are nice, and the SG ones are great
drralph100 Fenders are made by illegal Mexicans in the U.S. Why not save a lot of money and buy the same guitar made by legal Mexicans in Mexico?
owwwwcccchhhh I recommend Mexican strats for beginning, or even for a long time. I have a Gibson Firebird but play my Mexican Strat a lot too. They're almost the same as the American ones. I just don't like how Epiphone looks on the headstocks lol. It's like you see a Les Paul and then you're like, oh it's just an Epiphone.
ESP vs LTD!!! \m/
They are made by the same company as far as i know ...
+Tcrumpen Thats the point. Epiphone is owned by gibson, Ltd is owned by Esp.
Andy Smyth I always though ltd was just a style of guitar, like Gibson make Les Paul and SG's, didn't now it was a sub company
LTDs are basically the "Epiphones" of the ESPs, they are cheaper but different.
They don't sell ESP's, they only sell LTD's
Dude, Rob's a fucking BEAST, holy crap!
And Lee using the force- that was very wow too because right as he did I was like "whoa, check out the Cap'n not even givin a damn, just goin for it and nailin it"
I would love to go try guitars blindfolded at a store but I can't because 1. I'm left handed so there aren't enough guitars, and 2. The stores I go to don't set up the guitars properly. I played a nice Fender Strat and a Gibson SG and a guitar I bought for $80 played better. Get your sh"t together music store guys! :P
haha tell me about it. pretty much the 3k gibsons play like shit over at the store i sometimes go to. basically nothing is worth testing properly there ://
I'm left handed and i use right handed guitars. Dx
I don't buy for a second that some $80 guitar played better then a Fender Strat or Gibson SG. At least not the American made Standards. I understand that some cheaper guitars can actually be better, but methinks you are lying to make some exaggerated "point". Just my opinion
Ok, well I bought the guitar for $80 but it's really like a $300 guitar. A Yamaha Pacifica 112L to be exact. And I'm not saying that my guitar is flat out better, I stated that the reason it played better was because the Strat and SG were set up so badly. The Strat was like a $900 American, and the strings seemed old and the action was a little high. The SG was in the $1,000 - 3,000 range (can't remember the actual price) and the strings were also old and way too high off the fretboard. I'm sure If the store had a guy to regularly go through all the guitars and maintain them, I would've thought differently. Just a set up is all, I'm sure they are great guitars.
TheRealMikeShea
the pacifica is a great guitar, I’m jealous of a friend who’s got one, it played better than any strat I’ve tried, the neck was just amazing, but pickups were meh, so I’m inclined to believe you. I believe a good setup can do wonders to a guitar, but after owning both a premium ibanez and a prestige I can tell you attention to detail is definitely something that didn’t strike me at first sight but I could probably do a blindfolded Ibanez test now, it would be an interesting thing to do, sadly most of the stores I go to don’t carry around huge stocks of them, and not 7 strings anyway…
The comedy, and the sheer awesomeness of what you guys do makes me feel kinda cosy in my room, watching you goof off and do cool experiments is my favourite passtime besides guitar!
Simply shows how the feel effects the desire to play. Each musician finds one that feels good to them and look out. With bias aside feel is what drives the music. Well done gents!
You should do an Ibanez Vs Schecter Vs ESP blindfolded. They all have similar S-type bodies and I think that would be really cool!
Busted... he touches the top of the headstock of the first guitar... gibson and epiphone electrics have noticeably different headstocks.
Interesting to see he touches the headstock of that Gibson at 4:20 or so. He knew which guitar that was.
Great video, only half way through so far. It's a testament to the guy on the right as a player that he was so quick to tell the Epiphone but perhaps a testament to Epiphone that he was then hesitant to commit to that choice
Thats a really good looking Epiphone LP
Look up Cherry Sun Burst
+MrSixiesRock I have had the Epi LP standard pro for about a week now and it is awesome and it definitely looks great.
U_Say_What_Fool Great choice and great guitar man, I had a Stranded i had for about 6 years since new recently i swapped it for a Tokai though. But the Epiphone was honestly perfect i think. As a Gibson owner i had no issues with it. Only thing i like more on the Gibson LP is the Headstock shape
MrSixiesRock i am an intermediate guitarist and have been playing for just over a year and i watch rob for things like this video to see if there is as massive a gap in quality between epiphone/gibson fender/squier, but having never owned a gibson i would say that the Epi LP is great, especially for the money
U_Say_What_Fool Best guitar you could buy for only just playing over a year, Wont let you down at all mate
Fuck it I love my epiphone lol
They're great guitars
Random Crap umm no... Not all of them. The shitty ones are made in China but some are made in Korea and they're excellent
Random Crap soon they won't be though. Epiphone is moving out of China
Random Crap yea it is a good thing. I don't think the price will go up though. They're only moving right over to Indonesia or something like that where some of their guitars are already made anyways
ive got 2 epiphone les paul customs from korea and they are brilliant guitars,i picked up a white and a black model and both have duncans.i paid $300 each,so 6 bills for 2 gig able ,mint shape guitars.
It be interesting to see this, but a bit more advanced like get the high end Epiphones that come with 57s and coil tap. I also think the Epiphone Custom Plus Stop Pros are good enough to be mistaken as a Gibson.
I just sit here crying on the inside wishing I hadn't had to sell my guitar to make rent.
Watching Rob trying to find the controls on the guitars was the best part!
Even though I love Gibson's, you can't deny on that particular Epi Les Paul in the video, the only thing lacking were the pickups. Swap out the pups, and you would have a pretty comparable instrument for cheaper.
well seeing how the pickup are what MAKES THE SOUND I think that's an accurate statement,,, wtf
Andrew Whittaker no the strings make THE SOUND and the pickups pick up the sound
Luke Davis Yeah and some pick up the sound a lot better than others lol
Andrew Whittaker haha. well, some pick up the sound differently than others. strings, wood type, shape, cavity size, "weight relief" or not, and finish type and amount all create the sound together. Theoretically, you can get the exact same tone out using pickup A on guitar B as pickup B on guitar A, while A on A, and B on B are entirely different from one another. Calling a pickup better or worse than the next is entirely dependent on the guitar. Burstbuckers, for instance sound atrocious in a lighter toned body. The high output cuts through the mahogany nicely, but sounds screechy in a solid maple body.
Mike Mlodzienski ...all this is assuming that the pickups are made well. yes, there are bad pickups, but they are made with poor materials, or wound poorly. at the end of the day, the difference between a 150 dollar pickup and a 20 dollar pickup is the maker.
You shoulda been like Wrong! They were all Fender Teles!
You cheated! You felt the headstock
yep thats what i thought
diamondacn And Chappers was feeling around for the binding.
To be fair he guessed before he felt the headstock.
Surprised neither of them picked up on the lack of neck binding on the Studio Pro.
Me too - I was really expecting to feel a much bigger difference. Clearly binding has a much bigger visual impact that it does on feel!
CaptAnderton I've got a a SE PRS with binding and an American PRS w/o binding and can confirm, binding doesn't mean anything.
Rob always seems to like the Les Paul Studio best in these blindfold challenges.
I have a USA standard and an Epiphone PlusTop Pro. The first cost me £1300 in 2003 and the second cost me £350 in 2014. They are both great guitars but the Epiphone is better balanced. The USA is very "bottom" heavy. I think it is true to say that the Epiphones have improved a lot over the years. Very pleased with mine!
plz do a blindfold sg test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree a blindfold SG test would be great
You guys are doing the lord's work. Thanks.
HE'S TOUCHING THE HEADSTOCK...
Yeah he always plays the open E chord with his index finger free anyway so he can feel the headstock even when it isn't allowed
And The Beat Goes On he does that anyway
truss rod cover gives it away in later versions of this same "game"
Amazing how Rob in fact does truly know his shit! I find it so amusing how he also wants to smell the guitar. I assume he's trying to whiff the nitro finish....mmmmm...nitro finish: ) Also had to laugh at all the cheeky things Rob did to Lee whilst he was blindfolded...LMAO! One of the best videos you guys have ever done IMO. Love it!
i was dying when he cut him off when he was about to say "why do you think that-" and he just started playing and staring at him with a darth vader mask like , does that answer your question!?! XD
I have an Epyphone Les Paul Ultra which i think sounds great through my Vox ac30vr but there definately is a difference in sound between the Epyphone and Gibson. In this case you definately get what you pay for. Next Guitar: Gibson Les Paul.
I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a gibson les paul studio and an epiphone les paul ultra (if they had the same pickups) . Gibson aint what it used to be... You're spending 3000$ for a "decent" gibson. That same money will get you a custom made guitar from a good luthier.
I agree that swapping out the pickups would make the difference and a decent amplifier will also help.
JgHaverty
True. Gibson these days is not what they used to be. Chambering the bodies was a huge mistake.
My main guitar at the minute is an ESP LTD viper 10 (the basic one thats about £50) with some pickups from a small UK company called Warman. I had the same pickups in a Gibson SG and, with the same guitar amp settings, youd struggle to hear any difference between the two soundwise. The gibson was much nicer and easier to play though.
Yeah, i'm looking at a photo of the 1973 Gibson Les Paul Silver Anniversary Model i used to own. F-/K! I miss that Guitar, it was like a finely tuned piece of machinery to me, the best Guitar i've had the privilege of owning. Gone but not Forgotten. Anyway in my hands i have my Epyphone Les Paul Ultra, super light in weight, fast action, great sounding pickups, simply a nicely constructed Guitar. I think it is around a 2001 model, i paid $750 with Hardcase, for one in the same condition as mine i think you'd be looking at around $1100 from what i've seen available on the net and in music stores. As mentioned above in this thread for a decent Les Paul your going to pay at least $3000 where as for the same money you would get a custom build and for even less an Epyphone Les Paul Ultra. I guess we all hear a little differently so i guess it's each to his own on this one, personally i think the difference in sound between the 2 Guitars is so minimal in the end you only end up paying for the name. GIBSON (it is a pretty special name though and will always looks good written on the guitars headstock) $3000 or $1100?
he touched the fucking head stock, CHEATING!!!!!!
Yeah... yeah (everyone chimes in)!
FuckPunkers they are all les Paul's chill out.
+Just sam epiphone and Gibson have different head stocks
He also touched the volume knobs on the studio pro...
Just sam the angle of the headstock is 14% on the epiphone and 17% on the gibson I think.
Feeling the headstock would cut the options in half.
ive owned 2 les paul standards a 1976 tobacco and a black 1989, a studio 1978, and a custom 1981, all played great, the 76 is my favorite of all times
Attention, new commentators: Before posting that comment about how the sound of the music is entirely in your gifted fingers, and is nothing to do with the instrument, please scroll down, see that 551,495 other people have posted the exact comment you are about to. Then, use some intelligence (a very small amount will suffice) to reevaluate whether or not to post it.
he obviously felt the head stock and knew it was a Gibson...
This would have been a better test if they had put the same kind of pickups in each guitar. Or at least upgrade the Epi. That way he'd be comparing the feel of each guitar. And new pups are probably the first thing someone would do with the Epi.
Yeah listen to this with a quality sound setup or decent headphones and it's painfully obvious that the Epiphone's tonal quality is tiny compared to the Gibson guitars. They are a music store after all, so I don't think they want say the Epiphone sounds weak and needs to be upgraded right after it is purchased.
Pablo Rages This test tells us nothing of value. If they had put decent pups in the Epi we would know how good or bad it really is. Anyone with a clue already knows the Epi pups are going to suck. That should not have been the basis of comparison. Particular not when that problem can be fixed for $100.
Pablo Rages I would rather know if putting a $100 set of pups in a cheap Epi will give me a guitar that can't be discerned (blindfolded) from a MUCH more expensive Gibson. But I guess you would rather know that Epi pups aren't as good as Gibson's. Which you should already know. Yeah I'm weird like that.
Pablo Rages I've never been completely satisfied with any Gibson I have owned. Maybe that's more of a reflection of the ones that have come my way. But I just don't think they are worth the money they cost.
Have you seen what Warmoth can do for the same price as Fender or Gibson? Custom Shop quality at standard shop prices. You can even pick the exact piece of wood they will use.
Are you familiar with the term "ghost builders"? Your beloved Gibson may not even be a Gibson!
harmonycentral.com/forum/forum/guitar/acapella-41/1103098-
thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=807441
edroman.com/guitars/gibson/unhappy-gibson-customers.htm
MasterOfSparks
Long Rant coming up:
Gibson is for sure overpriced.
Most notably models after the Studio.
I find the studios to "generally" be great instruments and are easy to find used.
I can get some amazing sounds out of my SG-pro which has P-90 pickups.
But, absolutely, other companies have made guitars that are much better designed for far less money, FAR less.
In my opinion, they justify high pricing with the Gibson name and age old authenticity. Gibson likes to make it clear that they are traditional, seeing how they are one of the pioneering companies to build early electric guitars. (1935).
Famous users who have used/use them make it clear to the public that Gibson is undoubtedly the best choice if you want to buy a tried and true, beautiful, expensive, best-brand name-to-tell your-friends, guitar.
Remember, their is a large group of people who buy these guitars who cannot identify the differences serious players can. Attention to detail regarding the instrument becomes so inherent to committed players, it is hard for one to imagine how someone cannot notice differences.
So regardless of the price, Gibson will always be able to do what they do. Their prices will always be looked at with awe; either by someone thinking:
"Why would I get something with old design flaws and can break at the headstock easily, for 3500$?!!
Or;
"This is the best guitar ever! Oh wait, I want to try That one... Oh man! This is even better. Boulevard of broken dreams sounds wicked, Smells like teen spirit, wow. It's Fu**ing deadly. It's totally worth the price difference, I can hear it. I'm adding it to my account here anyways.This will make me want to practice even more (The previous guitar was 1500$ less and had a less fancy top).
I miss the explorer, why Gibson? It's so expensive now!
I have one :')
James Hetfield I see what you did there.
4:10 The biggest giveaway of an Epiphone is the headstock shape. Look at how Rob touches it, then look at how Lee stares at him lol...
Feeling around the side of the guitar for binding! I totally caught that. When he changed his mind from studio to standard, obviously studio's don't have binding, and sometimes you can feel the ridges on the binding of a gibson or anything with body binding. Still a great guitar player. Still one of my favourite people to watch.
+Parker Hatcher Also smell. Gibsons smell sweet and sometimes like play dough. I have a yellow LP DC special that smells like hot chocolate. Mmm. Gibson smell.
Please review the new andertons marshall or Marshall bluesbreaker vs Marshall 1974x.
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thank me later
Oh shit thanks
+ThePcGamer wait what, people actually liked this. Wtf. Tsk tsk tsk. People these days, atleast I didn't get 80 likes with alt accounts and bots
+ThePcGamer I was trying to see how much hate I got, not likes. Goddamit!
Loostio Boostio Hi, you told me to thank you later so now that it has been a year I'm here to thank you kind man :^)
Inevitable Truth thanks
damn that studio pro sounds awesome!
Valentin D looks beautiful too
The Studio impresses both players more than the Standard or 59. I agree as long as your Studio has pickups different from 490/498
He TOTALLY felt for the binding (or lack thereof) when deciding which was a Studio :P
One thing about these guitar challenges I'm curious about is the price of each model. Perhaps you guys could tell us after you've done the doubleblind tests? Per example, what is the price gap between an Epiphone Les Pau and the real items? Just an idea.
epi standard is $400 i think. the gibson studio is about $1000, standard is a little more than that, custom shop is insane money, like $4000 or something
he cheated. he felt the head shape and the binding
Feeling the binding doesn't give anything away. The binding on my epiphone wildkat Is just as good as the gibson standard lp.
The Les paul studio doesn't have any binding.
DaveDangerous74 Yeah but he still thought the LP standard was a studio - I thought he'd feel the binding straight away.
DaveDangerous74 Well, that is a 'tell' isn't it?
Plus on the custom shop there's an engraved plaque where the toggle switch cover is on the back, so that would have given that away immediately.
Do this at home? (looks at the corner of the room with a single epiphone looking at him there like saying "wtf")
You guys have way too much fun with your editing software in these videos.
I have a 2005 Epiphone, Les Paul Standard Plus (flamed maple top), Korean-made. Called up Gibson to check the year by the serial number, and ask about the body. The guitar depth measures out to a Les Paul Standard, like 1 and 7/8" or a touch more. Body is solid mahogany (no weight relief!), flamed maple cap, and one piece mahogany neck with a rosewood fingerboard, Grover tuners.
The pickups aren't very tasty, so I've changed out the bridge with a Gibson 498T, and plan on changing the neck pickup with a Gibson 490R. The 498T has turned it from a wannabe, into a serious contender. Clarity, and razor sharp tone, and much punchier. My Epiphone came with the 57CH in the neck and the HOTCH in the bridge, measuring 14 ohms resistance. After the neck pickup change, the next project is genuine Gibson wiring / pots?
That Les Paul Standard has a very pretty finish to it. Gorgeous.
I totally agree.
You can smell a Gibson a mile away
I've heard they smell like vanilla.
I've played a few at Guitar Center, and although they were absolutely breath-taking, I don't recall smelling vanilla. Maybe I should have sniffed the maple cap more while playing.
+Jonathan Keith its. when you take them out of the case it's very noticeable the nitro gives of vapours for years
Yeah my SG smells delicious. It's great.
+humphrey peek true I just bought my new studio shred and it smells so good
They smell like Tick-tacks to me.
Let me just say that epiphone is beautiful
This succeeds on many levels but, most of all, it's flat out entertaining. Totally stealing the phrase "Let's throw that cat amongst the pigeons".
I've looked at Epi and Gibson at my local store. Tried them both. I cannot see what paying four times the price gets you besides bragging rights. As others have noted, it's about the music, not the hardware. Getting good value for money is important to me, and the 2014 Epi Les Paul Standard Plustop Pro is really excellent in quality. Amazing what $600 gets you now.
How many people started saving for a Gibson Studio Pro after watching this?
man I'm already searching where i can buy it :)
gibsons have nitrocell finishes epis have poly ...completely different feel
I love the sci-fi theme gimp mask.
all you gotta do is feel for the bookend. the Epiphones have a Brutus headstock to Gibson's Stradivarius headstock.
6:14 idk why that just absolutely hit me straight in the chest just that sound the amount of nostalgia that idk where it came from it mad
Suppose I have a limited budget of 180$ approx.
Should I buy an entry level but good branded guitar
Or should I buy a fake branded but lavish looking guitar
SubhanZombie definitely a good branded guitar, dont ever go for fake ones, hope its not too late
imad saliba No no its not too late..
I havent bought yet.. I am confused
SubhanZombie I would recommend a Squier bullet strat.
+SubhanZombie The Epihpone Special II is a good starter guitar if you like the Les Paul look.
Get a les Paul junior.
not an expert but to me the gibsons sound more powerful, I'm hearing more frequencies, a fuller sound
Gibsons have more overtones.
I feel like the notes sound clearer, or to put it another way, the notes demand your attention
theres a bunny
They've been doing that lately XD
These guys are great. I love it when people have fun with things like this...
touching the edge of the guitar - no binding - "this is the studio pro" good joooob
Rabbit!
SG Shootout
yessss
You should put something it Chappers nose so he can't smell and you shouldn't allow him to lift them to compare the weights.
...yep...put them on a stand...let someone else change settings and only touch the neck and rest picking hand...then you got something...
I'm well impressed with that. I probably could have picked out the epi from the sound but beyond that, no chance. Hats off.
+chris Bryson different headstock on Epiphone..
so it seems the differences are mainly the knob feel, fret feel, and feeling the binding. maybe even paint smell. Sound didn't seem all that different.
If you can smell the lacquer .. You know its a Gibson .. Simple as
he also shouldn't be able to touch the head stocks, Gibson is a different shape than Epiphone, this is a joke, and also I have the Probucker pickups in my Epi 100th anniversary, made to the exact spec's of a Gibson pickup
He touched the headstock. CHEATER.
You guys are fantastic! Two good friends just having a ball and making fun with the best thing in the world, music. Keep doing exactly this. Refreshing to see people enjoying themselves rather than the monotone monologue most people give off while playing. Keep it up. :)
0:30 “if they don’t know that by now, they don’t know anything...” 😂
lol even though lee saw that the lp standard had a scratch plate he still got it wrong!
He said all of them have scratch plates
Hmmm so at first he thought the std was a studio or a epie and then he flip flops off camera and changes it to a std. I have a studio and I love it. If this guy who has made a living out of playing and has probably played more different guitars then most rockstars cant tell but by smell and weight I think ill just stick with my studio. Even the epie with new pickups and a nice setup and two hours of fret work can be as nice as a 3 grand guitar.
+Phlop Alopagus New pickups aren't really necessary with the current epiphones, tbh. It's the other electronics and the wire that lets them down, in my experience.
I haven't owned a epi in at least 12 years. I wound judge them for that time as it seemed all cheaper guitars were real bad in the early 90's. It seems harder to get a complete P.O.S. now days. At least everything doesnt fall apart in a month and the frets pop out and the neck bows lol. I had a squire that did all those thing when I was younger.
+Phlop Alopagus Hahaha you're very right about the old cheap guitars. The old Epi fretwork was almost dangerous to play on.
he dabbed before it was cool
I love how they put up fancy graphics and sound effects on the video, but held up a notepad to show which guitar was which
That moment when the camera pans out and you forget everything and all you see is Darth Vader shredding... Awesome haha
Just get a used Gibson. There are plenty out there
I got a 2010 LP Studio w/ hard case for $600 and it is such a good guitar.
Tim crews Awesome
that would be a good idea if there were any used lefty gibson les pauls in my area, so a $600 epiphone is really my only choice
epiphone annihliation beats the gibson V
"Everyone's situation is exactly the same as mine so just do what I do. It isn't hard to be exactly like me."
epihone, gibson, fender, gretsch, martin, PRS, ESP, Kramer, Charvel, BC Rich, Jackson, Hofner, Ibanez, Ovation, Rickenbacker, Yamaha, and Washburn all make nopthing but awful guitars. They don't know crap about the instruments, all their axes are low quality and have terrible sounds. Seriously, they all suck. Totally. Completely. Decidedly. Definitely. Assuredly. I am being very serious.
So, who does make a good guitar?
None of them, as I made abundantly clear. Um, hmmm, who does make good guitars? I guess I do, not sure about anyone else though.
Evan L Go custom and support your local luthier.
dude, I live in suburban Jacksonville. What local luthiers? Most businesses around here are banks or drug dealers.
perhaps they know some good Luthiers
No offence but why do ALL of your videos have to be sooo long?
because 30 minutes of awesome is better than 10 minutes of shite
Because they hadn't discovered the Miku pedal yet.
That's awesome!!!!! I
Shit I don't think they're long enough.
Loved the cut shot in the end when Lee told Rob it was the studio pro 😂😂
Right around 6:40 you can just hear the difference in tone when he bends a high-note; the sound is "thin."
When he bends up-high or plays a grace note on the LP Standard, you can hear where the extra money is going; the Gibson's electronics are FAR superior, as is their crew of guitar tech's who setup and check each and every guitar that leaves the factory; a step that is either rushed or altogether absent in the Epiphone assembly line. Some of Gibson's cheaper models have come from the factory a little "messy" in the setup department, but every Gibson I've ever bought has been awesome.