Whenever I create a character, I tend to blend two arche-paths together. They seem a bit more multifaceted that way, so not just a soldier but a spiritual soldier, so they're on the path of the priest AND of the warrior. Or a scientist AND a lover. This in itself provides conflict within and without the character, inner turmoil that is delicious to dig through and have the character teach you about themself.
She’s such a great speaker. And her perspective on this stuff is like right in line with what makes things interesting for me. Loved this interview! I’ve never heard someone speak and immediately searched for the books they wrote until now.
Jaye is quite a marvelous source, I enjoyed her perspective on this aspect of character development. Her input will no doubt prove highly beneficial. Thank you for posting.
I really enjoy her perspective, it mirrors a lot of the ways I strive to add lasting depth to my writing. I particularly love the bit about the enlightened soul that falls. Thinking of buying one of her books.
Just a warning the title is inaccurate, it should be called *"Mythological Archetypes in Fiction"* ... when I clicked the link I was not expecting a discussion on the leveling systems of the occult.
No. But I do expect people to label their video with a more specific title. The archetypes she's referring to are more reflective of a specific subculture of mysticism than it is a overarching cross-section of all, or at least, classical, mythology. Only a small portion of the intended audience would correctly guess the subject based on this comparatively vague title.
This woman is out cold. She seems to be very self aware and at ease with her light and dark side - the whole human. I was just thinking I would like to start with the villian for my story. I'm reflecting on John Truby's "double reversal".
@ Film Courage, thank you for uploading a video completely focussed on Miss Smith. I've just watched this episode this morning and feel so happy by the inspiration she has given me through this video.
Thank you! We have always enjoyed our videos with Pamela Jaye Smith, as well. She has another series on our channel about writing romantic comedies. We appreciate you watching and glad you gained from them, too. :)
Film Courage Thank you for your reply. I have a request for you, if you're interested; would miss Smith be interested in doing another video with you in where you would ask her philosophical questions related to the structure, the background in her novel? I'm aiming at the universal structure here. I am for example curious to know if the philosophy in her books are based on characters with free will or that these very same characters follow a laid out path. Or better yet; does both options differ in her different books, and if yes, how will that be noticeable?
Great interview. But fair warning. There is a spoiler for the movie Snowpiercer. I was listening over speakers and was away from my computer when the spoiler was revealed. Granted, I should've watched the movie at during the original screening but meh, time. Oh well :)
Hi and happy new year. Can someone please share or direct me to which ‘plot points per theme’ Pamela Jaye Smith mentioned? I am familiar with plot points or beats but didn’t know there were certain ones for certain genres. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@@filmcourage Thank you so much for your work and the quality of the questions. Pamela's tools are brilliant ! Plus she's managed to both simplify things and enrich the perception of the craft. One thing is most guests mention historical films being rejected... Would it be possible to know more about this please ? Thanks again ! Kat (Paris)
Perhaps, fate would have it. My video is about Orpheus and his love, he's dead and her alive. Heaven and hell, Omg. The irony! I knew nothing of this, when I wrote, my adaptation. I am God-smacked! And delighted, at the same time. Unbelievable, who the hell was I channeling?! Watch the video, it's uncanny! Lmao
I bought her book The Power of the Dark Side. So dissapointing. She is cataloguing the types of villains, telling things we already know; she is misleading us to stereotypes instead of making us question the complex human psychology. She is neither taking risks nor making a real effort. Even the way she talks; is she babysitting someone? It is making me so upset she's got a room on this channel, where there are some real experts instead, like John Truby.
yeah, i wasn't expecting that. I believe the occult is an interzesting framwork, but when you bring astrology as the reason why the supernatuural is a popular theme, i'm out. I hope the book is more in depth, and doesn't go on too many similar tengeants. Has anyone read it?
manamaster6 ... Oh get over yourself. It's just a framework to scale characters. When she said (the oft repeated) "loin vs head" you were probably OK with that. All that chakra talk is the gradient between the loin and the head. You don't have to believe it to find it useful. After all, this is to help write fiction, things that didnt happen. But maybe we should run JK Rowling up a flagpole by her underpants for letting her brain fall out writing about magic and other pseudoscience. We dont want to lose our Skeptic Card.
The use of symbols and archetype is not the issue. It is the fact that she seems to apply that type of astrological thinking to real life as well. Again, quoting a change to the era of the mage or something, as the explanation for fantasy going mainstream. There is a nuance there.
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Whenever I create a character, I tend to blend two arche-paths together. They seem a bit more multifaceted that way, so not just a soldier but a spiritual soldier, so they're on the path of the priest AND of the warrior. Or a scientist AND a lover. This in itself provides conflict within and without the character, inner turmoil that is delicious to dig through and have the character teach you about themself.
Quite unique!
This woman is sharing incredibly high level knowledge and presents it wonderfully!
Everyone in all walks of life would benefit from listening to this.
She’s such a great speaker. And her perspective on this stuff is like right in line with what makes things interesting for me. Loved this interview! I’ve never heard someone speak and immediately searched for the books they wrote until now.
I love this woman. She seems so complex and smart. Wow I’m floored by this naturally talented person.
Thank you so much Film Courage for making these interviews, they are my educational sources to screen writing.
We appreciate the support. Thanks for watching. And have fun writing!
lots for novel authors as well
yep. Magic.
I am going to have to watch this like 10 times. It has a lot of depth
met Pam once. easy to talking to, a reservoir of info on mythos, etc. great for carving out antagonists in a story.
+megt n Thanks for sharing.
Meet Pam where?
She's great and on the point with amazing examples.
I just found this beautiful channel at a pivotal stage in my life. Thank you so much
She's great. I could listen to her for hours. I'm gonna buy her book. It isn't just the content, but also her style of expression.
Thank you for watching, Oscar. We agree!
Thank you so much for this, Pamela Jaye Smith! You’re an asset to all the writers out here!
Jaye is quite a marvelous source, I enjoyed her perspective on this aspect of character development. Her input will no doubt prove highly beneficial.
Thank you for posting.
That is probably one of the smartest things I’ve ever heard in my entire life, thank you SO MUCH for the material!
This lady is intelligent and charming, what a wonderful combination, I think she may be a Southern Bell? All the best from the U.K.
I love listening to her, so knowledgeable and graceful about it.
I really loved the commentary about “deflecting the Karma” which is such an interesting villainous story dynamic.
Indeed, glad you found this one Casey!
Now this woman is brilliant and fascinating! This is inspirational.
I really enjoy her perspective, it mirrors a lot of the ways I strive to add lasting depth to my writing. I particularly love the bit about the enlightened soul that falls. Thinking of buying one of her books.
Just a warning the title is inaccurate, it should be called *"Mythological Archetypes in Fiction"* ... when I clicked the link I was not expecting a discussion on the leveling systems of the occult.
Samuel Wallace ... title warning? you mean you expect people to tiptoe around your personal beliefs? not gonna happen.
No. But I do expect people to label their video with a more specific title. The archetypes she's referring to are more reflective of a specific subculture of mysticism than it is a overarching cross-section of all, or at least, classical, mythology. Only a small portion of the intended audience would correctly guess the subject based on this comparatively vague title.
Thanks.
I believe they can reach and atract a lot more people to this fantastic world with the title the way it is.
I love this lady. Easily, my favorite interviewee of yours, Ms. Courage!
Love this sorta thing, something I can really sink my teeth into as a writer!
Master Class with Lady Jaye Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is the best channel on youtube, and she’s (pamela) fascinating! totally gonna get her book, right after i finish watching this.
Thank you bree! Pamela is amazing, we were lucky to put together this class with her last year - ua-cam.com/video/2NWKJL6ihOw/v-deo.html
This woman is out cold. She seems to be very self aware and at ease with her light and dark side - the whole human. I was just thinking I would like to start with the villian for my story. I'm reflecting on John Truby's "double reversal".
@ Film Courage, thank you for uploading a video completely focussed on Miss Smith. I've just watched this episode this morning and feel so happy by the inspiration she has given me through this video.
Thank you! We have always enjoyed our videos with Pamela Jaye Smith, as well. She has another series on our channel about writing romantic comedies. We appreciate you watching and glad you gained from them, too. :)
Film Courage Thank you for your reply.
I have a request for you, if you're interested; would miss Smith be interested in doing another video with you in where you would ask her philosophical questions related to the structure, the background in her novel? I'm aiming at the universal structure here. I am for example curious to know if the philosophy in her books are based on characters with free will or that these very same characters follow a laid out path.
Or better yet; does both options differ in her different books, and if yes, how will that be noticeable?
She is so full of knowledge
wow I love this lady, so informative and well spoken
I love this! Lived it and now I'm ready to write about it all. But where to start?
This is a gem. Thank you so much.
Great interview.
But fair warning. There is a spoiler for the movie Snowpiercer. I was listening over speakers and was away from my computer when the spoiler was revealed. Granted, I should've watched the movie at during the original screening but meh, time. Oh well :)
I've been writing a story and named characters as the scientist, the priest, the magician, without knowing they were archetypes, this is surprising
00:34:00 -- Ajna sacral chakra; if falls to dark side = manipulators
She is brilliant
fil courage , i learned many things day by day ,thanks for uploading such videos
00:28:30 -- Chakra levels
I think there is a little phasing between the two mics. Great interview!
I think the lover level 4 is The Dude, The Big Lebowski haha
Hi and happy new year. Can someone please share or direct me to which ‘plot points per theme’ Pamela Jaye Smith mentioned?
I am familiar with plot points or beats but didn’t know there were certain ones for certain genres. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
did you ever find out?
This is gold
Sensational interview
This is so interesting!
The Snow Piercer. Must check it out.
Just Snowpiercer and yes it's really good.
is it me or she completely described another movie haha seems like she mixed snow piercer and sunshine lol
Wow love this.
Hi Film Courage! Would you please activate Auto-generated English CC for this video? Thanks!
Wow! This is good
Ian Richardson in anything is a masterpiece. Original House of Cards is a diamond, the US version is diamanté by comparison
Oh she’s goood!
I would love to have a conversation with her omg.
She's incredible. We put on a LIVE class with Pamela that was a lot of fun. Here is a link - ua-cam.com/video/2NWKJL6ihOw/v-deo.html
@@filmcourage Thank you so much for your work and the quality of the questions. Pamela's tools are brilliant ! Plus she's managed to both simplify things and enrich the perception of the craft. One thing is most guests mention historical films being rejected... Would it be possible to know more about this please ?
Thanks again !
Kat (Paris)
Perhaps, fate would have it. My video is about Orpheus and his love, he's dead and her alive. Heaven and hell, Omg. The irony! I knew nothing of this, when I wrote, my adaptation. I am God-smacked! And delighted, at the same time. Unbelievable, who the hell was I channeling?! Watch the video, it's uncanny! Lmao
Woooow
"The motherlover" lol
"Neil Degrassy Tyson"
I bought her book The Power of the Dark Side. So dissapointing. She is cataloguing the types of villains, telling things we already know; she is misleading us to stereotypes instead of making us question the complex human psychology. She is neither taking risks nor making a real effort. Even the way she talks; is she babysitting someone? It is making me so upset she's got a room on this channel, where there are some real experts instead, like John Truby.
It was all great until she started with the pseudoscientific nonsense, chakras, astrology, etc.
yeah, i wasn't expecting that. I believe the occult is an interzesting framwork, but when you bring astrology as the reason why the supernatuural is a popular theme, i'm out. I hope the book is more in depth, and doesn't go on too many similar tengeants. Has anyone read it?
i am sorry for your limited understanding and narrow comprehension...
Vijayakrishnan Menon I'm actually sorry you opened your mind so much your brain fell out.
manamaster6 ... Oh get over yourself. It's just a framework to scale characters. When she said (the oft repeated) "loin vs head" you were probably OK with that. All that chakra talk is the gradient between the loin and the head. You don't have to believe it to find it useful. After all, this is to help write fiction, things that didnt happen. But maybe we should run JK Rowling up a flagpole by her underpants for letting her brain fall out writing about magic and other pseudoscience. We dont want to lose our Skeptic Card.
The use of symbols and archetype is not the issue. It is the fact that she seems to apply that type of astrological thinking to real life as well. Again, quoting a change to the era of the mage or something, as the explanation for fantasy going mainstream.
There is a nuance there.
What on earth is this lady on about??