The best thing we can do for ourselves as Christians is to study our Bible and allow the holy spirit to do what it does best which is to teach us. Have a personal relationship with God because there's nothing bigger than him, God still speaks and he will never stop. Pastor Given is raising some good points, I've learned something from him even though I don't agree with some of the things he said.
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Let's be careful bazalwane not to complicate the gospel & scriptures so much, bese kube engathi the gospel is only for the learned or intellectuals. Hermeneutics, exegesis & whatever else is out there should not result in the complication of scriptures & the gospel, let's guard against this. Jesus made ivangeli so simple & accessible to everyone, even to the unlearned. Much study should not strip the gospel of its simplicity & accessibility.
True sister. I do not have anything personal with the two gentlemen, the Dr and Ps Gobhozi, but i see a trend with the Dr to always want to balance faith with politics. And then Ps Gobhozi is very deep in doctrine, unfortunately it's a doctrine that negates the rapture, tribulation, hell, etc. If doctrine is not consistant with the bible it's a false doctrine, simple.
to be honesty we so blessed having babo Siba with his ghests those that are not wtching are missing a lot .i dont have enough words to say on how much am happy and enjoying the really teachings
Great and very intrested topic the wonderful sharing of different schools of thought at the end agreed that in Christ we are one.I am blessed keep on the Good work Servants of God. 🙏
I wish Dr Jiyane, Gobhozi, Skhakhane and Shezi address us on the issue of the Coming or second coming of Christ because it leaves confusion to hear that hes no longer coming back because he has came back already and others say he is still coming back in the clouds, i just need that clarity there.
If esabuya why sife pho and why kube nezono eyngaka abafendis bona laba abazwani bebodwa nje okunye abasishumayezi bayachoma ngamavesi nangembhalo into ebuhlungu nje kthi ngyasola ngathi no Plan of Salvation aymbhulelwe kubo. Sifuna ukwaz ukuthi usabuya noma akakabuyi finish hhay iynxoxo eyngaka hawuuu yaz makthiwa yitende leli besophuma sngezwana lutho nje ngo Jesus owafela izono zethu ngoba fthi bazothi kwayena lowo Jesus abamazi uyiJuda bavele bakudide umqondo usale unganalutho ay scam sodwa lesi
Man even if I don't agree with everything they're saying, I just like the fact that they bringing new perspectives and challenging what many have always known. They're now being called by some of the lazy thinkers as fake pastors.
If you think people who are not agreeing with those teachings that says Jesus had already came 4 second time are lazy thinkers you yourself must think again. For me there is no need even to think bcos it's in the bible. If you say he came it mean you are against the bible. Bible says like lightning frm East to West nd every eyes will c him. I never saw may b somebody saw.
Making believers think and thinkers believe. Stop complaining, be like the Bereans who were noble in character; receive what they have spoken with eagerness and examine it with scripture to see if it's true. makholwa niyavilapha.
It's more like this was a platform for pastors to use big words and prove how informed they are about biblical history. The actual question behind divorce was not answered. This is why I find church and pastors to be exhausting, they are focused on their own self and not sharing the actual truth of the gospel. 🙄
I agree with you when you say that the question was not answered. They mostly gave good history on the background of the scripture, but didn't answer the questions that Mboma asnwered and based them on scripture. I was inspired in many ways but not as much as i desired the right questions answered clearly.
This school of who and who is very dangerous ngoba izokwenza iZwi libe based kuma beliefs womuntu, ingakho kunama denomination angaka kwi Christianity. Lento ifana chamashi nendaba ye COVID 19 ama scientists abuya kuma universities awodwa kodwa will have different views and discoveries. Mina I choose ukuthatha lokhu iNkosi ekushoyo kwi bible if kunokunye okungale kokubhaliwe kungcono ngingakholwa ngoshisa impepho ngoba kune confusion
Big English words and theology Will not take Christians anywhere, according to the panel our grandparents know nothing about the word of God, because I'm sure they're shocked at this new information.
I was soo interested in hearing their views about divorce,but now these men are only showing and disclosing their own knowledge, and using big words, trying to prove people how clueless they are and how we not understanding the word of God, this is all confusing and make even the gospel more complicated, worse when someone say something and goes on to reference it when something else he ends up losing the concept and the topic
I have a problem…I hear Scriptures and the knowledge in the Bible but I struggle to hear Holly Spirit confirming a few things kwabanye abazishoyo…ngizwa amadoda agcwelwe uLwazi nemgqondo yawo… sengilalele kaningi angizwa lutho…Baba Siba ama Scholars ayamaziswa uMoya ngóba phela lelizwi alipheleliswa ngenqgondo yomuntu ngizwa ama opinions and do they even consider Holly Spirit being a teacher as the Bible says uyosifundisa konke…angizami ukuveza ukuthi ngihamba ngoMoya but lento yinto kaNkulunkulu ayifundiswa ngamaOpinions uBaba Moya ongcwele uyena oPassisayo…Mr Jiyane noMr Gobhozi bayamazisa Moya ogcwele ezimfundisweni zabo or their teachings are just from the Bible school to the people? Bayakholelwa yini kuMoya ogcwele? Ngyawezwa amaScriptures nezimfundiso kodwa la kuMoya ngyalahleka 🥹🙈….sengizamile ukubalalela Hhai
The question of divorce was not answered, the last episode of divorce was better than this one. Next time our guest should stick to the topic they are invited for. Bashing one another on this platform should not be accepted as norm.They all deviated to correct Brother sikhakhane in this episode. To me 15min to 20min should be enough to correct/review some errors if they arise previously but the main focus should be on the topic of the day.
No b careful, bible is not contradicting itself bt Pastors they don't what they doing. You c they bzy with old testament whereas we living in the church age. Despansationalism is very important
@@mxolisimthombeni no we need to read da bible by ourselves not to b led by the blinds. You heard 1 saying he doesn't believe that Jesus is coming back? This people they pushing their agenda. There are many who are called bt the chosen ones are few. This is the time of Anti Christ. So don't listen to deceivers
@@desmondmasuku2851 thats the Era we're the church will not be led check England... That was a Christian country but now they become shocked to hear that a person believes in Jesus...
No verses are clear. These are fake pastors. Hw can you say you don't understand the second coming? Be careful 1John 2v18_19. It's the time of deception nd the wicked.
@@bmsithebe1156 and you are a real pastor nhe? Problem is that the average Christian doesn't read and many of you are unsettled by the new information.
Ama corrections: 1. Wozani kimi nonke enithwele ...🤣🤣 Jesus. 2. Earth creation 🙆🏾♂️ 3. God hates divorce 😁 4. Why he allowed divorce 5. Martin Luther's confusion. -Ngiyabonga ningicacisele ukuthi ngilixhamazele ibhayibheli. Keep on men of God.-
I like how Apostle Rathebe conducted himself during bashing of Skhakhane, Wisdom!
Very much. I think Jiyane and Gobhozi really misunderstood Mboma. I listened to him.
That wisdom come from the Holly spirit Sir…who most people lack!🙏🙏🙏
I think this is where Mboma's impatience with the the two gentlemen began, he cant stand them.
The best thing we can do for ourselves as Christians is to study our Bible and allow the holy spirit to do what it does best which is to teach us.
Have a personal relationship with God because there's nothing bigger than him, God still speaks and he will never stop.
Pastor Given is raising some good points, I've learned something from him even though I don't agree with some of the things he said.
Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Let's be careful bazalwane not to complicate the gospel & scriptures so much, bese kube engathi the gospel is only for the learned or intellectuals. Hermeneutics, exegesis & whatever else is out there should not result in the complication of scriptures & the gospel, let's guard against this. Jesus made ivangeli so simple & accessible to everyone, even to the unlearned. Much study should not strip the gospel of its simplicity & accessibility.
True sister. I do not have anything personal with the two gentlemen, the Dr and Ps Gobhozi, but i see a trend with the Dr to always want to balance faith with politics. And then Ps Gobhozi is very deep in doctrine, unfortunately it's a doctrine that negates the rapture, tribulation, hell, etc. If doctrine is not consistant with the bible it's a false doctrine, simple.
Apostle Rathebe is giving them a sermon. Powerful
Wow the depth of oracles Torah and transformation to new covenant....the wisdom
I hope they will speak the heart of God Today.
I had to watch this again, and I enjoyed it. God bless you brothers for this, I miss the Power hour, I was even asking Gerald about it😅.
Kuyafundwa ke la
Kakhulu it's a challenge to every believer kutsi babe educated
That is what I like about this panel. They have literally studied The Word.
to be honesty we so blessed having babo Siba with his ghests those that are not wtching are missing a lot .i dont have enough words to say on how much am happy and enjoying the really teachings
Great and very intrested topic the wonderful sharing of different schools of thought at the end agreed that in Christ we are one.I am blessed keep on the Good work Servants of God. 🙏
Conclusion: to understand the Bible you have to watch this episode 🔥
Syabonga kakhulu konke kucacile ngyafisa Babu Dlamini ngelinye langa skhulume nge Sabbath or ISABATHA kuthi kmele yini siligcine njengama Krestu ngyabonga
I wish Dr Jiyane, Gobhozi, Skhakhane and Shezi address us on the issue of the Coming or second coming of Christ because it leaves confusion to hear that hes no longer coming back because he has came back already and others say he is still coming back in the clouds, i just need that clarity there.
If esabuya why sife pho and why kube nezono eyngaka abafendis bona laba abazwani bebodwa nje okunye abasishumayezi bayachoma ngamavesi nangembhalo into ebuhlungu nje kthi ngyasola ngathi no Plan of Salvation aymbhulelwe kubo. Sifuna ukwaz ukuthi usabuya noma akakabuyi finish hhay iynxoxo eyngaka hawuuu yaz makthiwa yitende leli besophuma sngezwana lutho nje ngo Jesus owafela izono zethu ngoba fthi bazothi kwayena lowo Jesus abamazi uyiJuda bavele bakudide umqondo usale unganalutho ay scam sodwa lesi
It's so painful because I am a pastor I feel like am preaching for mahhala because of what they are saying ukuthi usebuyile am really confused aswell.
I like the history of Martin Luther ma spirit is uplifted thank u pastors💯💯💯💯
How does it align with the topic at hand...
Wow, this is so rich. Siyabonga sons of God.
1 Corinthians 1 v 18 to 23 I'm afraid of you guys I'm better listening to scripture.
Man even if I don't agree with everything they're saying, I just like the fact that they bringing new perspectives and challenging what many have always known. They're now being called by some of the lazy thinkers as fake pastors.
If you think people who are not agreeing with those teachings that says Jesus had already came 4 second time are lazy thinkers you yourself must think again. For me there is no need even to think bcos it's in the bible. If you say he came it mean you are against the bible. Bible says like lightning frm East to West nd every eyes will c him. I never saw may b somebody saw.
Making believers think and thinkers believe.
Stop complaining, be like the Bereans who were noble in character; receive what they have spoken with eagerness and examine it with scripture to see if it's true. makholwa niyavilapha.
It is not fair to attack Sikhakhane at his absencia with such arragance. Introduction nje isangilahla iyodwa. Labantu basadukisa abantu.
And i have been wondering as to why Mboma is so intolerant with the two guys, until i watched this episode.
It's more like this was a platform for pastors to use big words and prove how informed they are about biblical history.
The actual question behind divorce was not answered.
This is why I find church and pastors to be exhausting, they are focused on their own self and not sharing the actual truth of the gospel. 🙄
I agree with you when you say that the question was not answered. They mostly gave good history on the background of the scripture, but didn't answer the questions that Mboma asnwered and based them on scripture. I was inspired in many ways but not as much as i desired the right questions answered clearly.
This episode was so devious and dangerous kakhulu 😟
I have been taught today 🙌🙌
I like everything about this channel
This school of who and who is very dangerous ngoba izokwenza iZwi libe based kuma beliefs womuntu, ingakho kunama denomination angaka kwi Christianity. Lento ifana chamashi nendaba ye COVID 19 ama scientists abuya kuma universities awodwa kodwa will have different views and discoveries. Mina I choose ukuthatha lokhu iNkosi ekushoyo kwi bible if kunokunye okungale kokubhaliwe kungcono ngingakholwa ngoshisa impepho ngoba kune confusion
Thanks my pastors
This is opinions of theology not of God.
All scriptures are God given
Big English words and theology Will not take Christians anywhere, according to the panel our grandparents know nothing about the word of God, because I'm sure they're shocked at this new information.
Can you bring back the topic of second coming of Messiah and have the same panel please
I was soo interested in hearing their views about divorce,but now these men are only showing and disclosing their own knowledge, and using big words, trying to prove people how clueless they are and how we not understanding the word of God, this is all confusing and make even the gospel more complicated, worse when someone say something and goes on to reference it when something else he ends up losing the concept and the topic
I have a problem…I hear Scriptures and the knowledge in the Bible but I struggle to hear Holly Spirit confirming a few things kwabanye abazishoyo…ngizwa amadoda agcwelwe uLwazi nemgqondo yawo… sengilalele kaningi angizwa lutho…Baba Siba ama Scholars ayamaziswa uMoya ngóba phela lelizwi alipheleliswa ngenqgondo yomuntu ngizwa ama opinions and do they even consider Holly Spirit being a teacher as the Bible says uyosifundisa konke…angizami ukuveza ukuthi ngihamba ngoMoya but lento yinto kaNkulunkulu ayifundiswa ngamaOpinions uBaba Moya ongcwele uyena oPassisayo…Mr Jiyane noMr Gobhozi bayamazisa Moya ogcwele ezimfundisweni zabo or their teachings are just from the Bible school to the people? Bayakholelwa yini kuMoya ogcwele? Ngyawezwa amaScriptures nezimfundiso kodwa la kuMoya ngyalahleka 🥹🙈….sengizamile ukubalalela Hhai
I concur. I hear the men of God emphasizing grace which is good, but i cant hear them placing the devorce into grace.
Too much information here!!!
Namuhla Insindiso yambuliwe
The question of divorce was not answered, the last episode of divorce was better than this one. Next time our guest should stick to the topic they are invited for. Bashing one another on this platform should not be accepted as norm.They all deviated to correct Brother sikhakhane in this episode. To me 15min to 20min should be enough to correct/review some errors if they arise previously but the main focus should be on the topic of the day.
If there was ever a panel that's turned stones, what this panel did today 🙆♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We will stop reading our Bible now... Ngoba lizothi inyoka bese kuthiwa akusiyo inyoka... Kanti kahle Kahle what are we suppose to read... 🤔🤔🤔
No b careful, bible is not contradicting itself bt Pastors they don't what they doing. You c they bzy with old testament whereas we living in the church age. Despansationalism is very important
@@bmsithebe1156 the biggest problem we will face in the future is an unled church due such doctrines...
@@mxolisimthombeni no we need to read da bible by ourselves not to b led by the blinds. You heard 1 saying he doesn't believe that Jesus is coming back? This people they pushing their agenda. There are many who are called bt the chosen ones are few. This is the time of Anti Christ. So don't listen to deceivers
Lol.. Theology is huge man in future no one ordinary Wil preach only theologist Wil preach
@@desmondmasuku2851 thats the Era we're the church will not be led check England... That was a Christian country but now they become shocked to hear that a person believes in Jesus...
Kwasuka lokho
Kuzomele siqale phansi siyeskoleni syofunda I versi
No verses are clear. These are fake pastors. Hw can you say you don't understand the second coming? Be careful 1John 2v18_19. It's the time of deception nd the wicked.
We are living at the times of church age bt they bzy with old testament of Israel. They want to confuse you. Bible is divided Romans1v1_4
@@bmsithebe1156 and you are a real pastor nhe? Problem is that the average Christian doesn't read and many of you are unsettled by the new information.
@@lonwabomlawu1188 yes I am. Thats y I was advising you not 2 b confused by youtube teachings cos anyone knows these days
My question is umuntu osindisiwe engaya yini esihogweni bengaziphethe Kahle enza konke nje okubi noma ngeke asaya esihogweni ngoba ulungisiwe ngokrestu?
Ngibuza ngoba inkulumo yabo ethi akekho umuntu ongagcina umthetho ngokwakhe iwenza ungabi nasisindo.
Given mfethu
Nasi confuser
Ama corrections:
1. Wozani kimi nonke enithwele ...🤣🤣 Jesus.
2. Earth creation 🙆🏾♂️
3. God hates divorce 😁
4. Why he allowed divorce
5. Martin Luther's confusion.
-Ngiyabonga ningicacisele ukuthi ngilixhamazele ibhayibheli. Keep on men of God.-
Sicela the last last last last! Final😭🙏
Time of Apostasy
TEACH ASPOSTLES!!!!