I also thought that the 4 stanzas of 6 lines represented 4x6 - a common photo size... the chaos that is contained within the order of the poem's structure and form reflects the chaos that is held tightly within a 4x6 photo - it is a literal snapshot of chaos, contained in a way we can handle it, like in the poem. Could interestingly be linked to My Last Duchess with the idea of uncontrollable subjects being controlled through an image (be it painting or photograph). Just like the Duke has the ability to close the curtain on the painting, therefore closing her from view, the readers in War Photographer have the ability to put the photos down before their 'pre-lunch beers'. Mr Bruff - another great video. I am about to start my teacher training and my university has stated we must get to grips with all of these poems as part of our pre-course reading and your videos have been a real help - thank you!
I got a tip for anyone wanting high grades. The comments under the videos are super helpful as many people come up with ideas that are "outside the box" - this is what examiners look for - perceptive analysis! The only way to hit those 7's, 8's and 9's is to do those types of analysis'. If you can't think of any look in the comments - theres super smart people there!
@@leopugh7050 some of my own ideas, hope it’s not too late: ‘Black and white’ suggests they are archaic and irrelevant to the readers. This contrasts with the ‘agonies’ which are vivid, strong emotions which become memories with lots of clarity and colour, and so by putting them in ‘black and white’ the emotions are degraded and less significant - the readers cannot understand the true horrors. Furthermore ‘black and white’ are opposing colours, highlighting the readers’ differences between their perceptions and the realities of war, and furthermore, how they think it irrelevant to them (“it’s happening to someone else, not my problem”)
Mr Bruff's like the war photographer: he imposes a palatable, orderly and accessible explanation on a completely chaotic and unfathomable mess that is the GCSE English syllabus
"tears between the bath and pre-lunch beers" is able to show us the antithesis of what the photographer experiences in relation to the public who see the images. While memory acts as an instrument of suffering towards him in the sense that he can't forget the horror of what he's seen, the readers move on almost instantaneously; the rhyme in 'tears' and 'beers' in the same sentence showing a sense of finality in their memory of the war. They have moved on and 'do not care'
i think it can also be argued that the photographer is similar to the reader in this sense, as he knows how his photos will be received but yet he still takes them and profits off of them, he too is in this cycle of taking them, feeling them, but ultimately moving on and repeating this cycle. at the end of the day ‘he has a job to do.’ - a short simple sentence showing equally how emotionless he is similarly to the british audience.
An interpretation that I can gather from the structure of the poem is that since this entire poem is cyclical, it shows how the war photographer is most heartedly acquainted with those feelings of sorrow and dispair that the emotions now fail to have an effect on him anymore. He has too become of those people who gaze at the war photos trying to gain a deeper meaning from them but fail to really see war in its true bloody form. So this shows how war is unable to be captured in photos, in this 4×6 photo of a poem if you must, no matter how long the cycle goes on for. I HOPE THAT I HAVE HELPED ANYONE🙄
thank you so much for helping everyone out on their GCSEs including me. my GCSEs start in just over two weeks, and i have been revising my ASS off trying to revise quotations for English and knowing the poems and you have really helped me calm down, as your voice seems to sooth me and makes me feel as if a can do this and that i can pass my exams, so thank you xxx
Also comparing the photographer to a “priest preparing to intone a mass” may suggest how he is trying to spread something which is hard to believe. To citizens, it is hard to understand the harsh reality of war without experiencing it akin to Christians trying to understand the nature of God (as he is transcendent), even with help of a representative of God. Furthermore, due to the falling attendance in churches in the uk, Duffy may also imply that less and less people are interested in the work or things that the photographer conveys as time goes on.
@@ismaeelrafiq8028 if you are struggling, you can search up on Google " war photographer Genius" it is a good site that has highlighted key words/ bits to help you with the annotations!
"Belfast. Beirut. Phnom Penh." This is an example of holophrasis where single words are used to express a whole idea. Duffy compresses the conflict and political and social turmoil of these wars to criticise society as a whole, who are ignorant and negligible of the horror and misery of war.
When looking at the rhyme scheme, I have noticed that the two pairs of rhyme may represent the people who read the newspaper and are oblivious to the war, so they carry on as normal enjoy their life, whilst the two lines where there is no rhyme represents the photographer, where they feel alone and not understood, looking at war and taking pictures of it. It shows how 'they do not care' about the world and the job they have to do, to keep people informed.
Could "eyeballs prick with tears" the word "tears" mean as in to tear something up, like how in many wars, soldiers are torn limb from limb. Perhaps this is an ambiguous phrase to yet again show how people differentiate what is real, from what they would like to hear; of course there is sympathy in "tears" but the permanent damage of a "tear" could represent the photographers permanently damaged mental state. By the way thanks for the analysis it was really innovative, and I really hope your points can help me go up in grades!
tear as in to tear something up could also represent how the readers of the newspapers treat the photos in a newspaper once they're done. People will end up just 'tear'ing up these images to use as a firelight or to cover the table to stop paint spilling. People will just throw it away and not have any more use for it once they have read it and will throw it away showing how little of an impact it has onto people and how much people don't care.
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The use of "half-formed" could show how the readers of the Sunday supplement only see a half-formed and ordered reality of the war. Not grasping the true horror of the war from which the photo was taken from.
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I’ve got this as a mock tomorrow and I’m dreading it, I dont know what poem it is so I’m trying to absorb as much info as possible. English literature is my final day of mocks with the meaningless Geog paper 3. But 2hr15.. This really is the final boss
For anyone trying to annotate 'spools of suffering set out in ordered rows', it might be worth using Mr Bruff's point on the graveyard but referencing to it as a double entendre. Double meaning of graves and the literal meaning of pictures.
The best Analysis I have found while doing my IGCSEs. Great Work. Do you think perhaps another definition for 'half-formed ghost' could be that the man was already dying of his wounds, and so, along with being terribly mutilated, it was almost as if the man was still clinging onto the last remnants of life, but was slowly slipping away. Also lines 11-12. Perhaps the word 'nightmare' conveys how what the photographer had seen was so terrible that it almost seemed impossibly nightmarish.
"spools of suffering set out" The sibalance could be imitating a cameras shutter. He takes a photo and the suffering is "set" in the picture. There is so much more analysis you could do with this line, Remember to read the comments and use them wisely! Good luck!
Hi Mr Bruff - what about the similarity between the dark room red light and the red sanctuary light of Catholic/Anglican churches representing reserve sacrament and the presence of Christ, rather than symbolising sinister danger?
What harsh realities of war does the war photographer present? I'm having difficulty finding a good enough point for this that can also compare to another poem. I was thinking either Bayonet Charge or Poppies but I still can't develop a good enough conceptualised point.
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What are good poems to compare this to. i know you said bayonet charge but you covered so much so there must be some other poems i could use. apreciate any help given
I got a 8 in my English Literature GCSE, how the fuck did I do that. I watched mr Bruff all the time in year 10 and 11. Lockdown must’ve hit me hard as I’m doing English A level and I’m dog shit. I can’t remember how to analyse poems and I’ve forgotten numerous literacy devices. Jesus. Might retake the year...
Can you tell me what points can be used from this poem to compare with Poppies if the the question was about the idea of loss? i need as many points as possible
Please can you give me a brief overview of the context i should include in this poem. I am not sure whether the context that you provided in the video is applicable to the essay we would write. Thanks
This poem isn't actually in the Edexcel anthology so it shouldn't be in the playlist (i just don't want anyone to get confused). The actual poem is War Photographer by Carole Satyamurti, it would be great if you could do a video on it :)
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I also thought that the 4 stanzas of 6 lines represented 4x6 - a common photo size... the chaos that is contained within the order of the poem's structure and form reflects the chaos that is held tightly within a 4x6 photo - it is a literal snapshot of chaos, contained in a way we can handle it, like in the poem. Could interestingly be linked to My Last Duchess with the idea of uncontrollable subjects being controlled through an image (be it painting or photograph). Just like the Duke has the ability to close the curtain on the painting, therefore closing her from view, the readers in War Photographer have the ability to put the photos down before their 'pre-lunch beers'.
Mr Bruff - another great video. I am about to start my teacher training and my university has stated we must get to grips with all of these poems as part of our pre-course reading and your videos have been a real help - thank you!
That's a really interesting interpretation! I'll steal it from you ;)
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Some really good interpretations
Sophie Halford stolen
Oh my god thank you, i can use this as another interpretation for my GCSE!!!!!!
I got a tip for anyone wanting high grades. The comments under the videos are super helpful as many people come up with ideas that are "outside the box" - this is what examiners look for - perceptive analysis! The only way to hit those 7's, 8's and 9's is to do those types of analysis'. If you can't think of any look in the comments - theres super smart people there!
Arif I always make notes on the video and then take notes in the comment aha !
Yh and by looking at the comments no-one focuses on the vid
(thats wat im doing rn)
but thx
Can anyone analyse the quote “a hundred agonies in black and white”
@@leopugh7050 some of my own ideas, hope it’s not too late:
‘Black and white’ suggests they are archaic and irrelevant to the readers. This contrasts with the ‘agonies’ which are vivid, strong emotions which become memories with lots of clarity and colour, and so by putting them in ‘black and white’ the emotions are degraded and less significant - the readers cannot understand the true horrors. Furthermore ‘black and white’ are opposing colours, highlighting the readers’ differences between their perceptions and the realities of war, and furthermore, how they think it irrelevant to them (“it’s happening to someone else, not my problem”)
@@proftuna43 thats a very nice analysis, gonna use it
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Tegan xoxo you mean 9 right?
Mr Bruff's like the war photographer: he imposes a palatable, orderly and accessible explanation on a completely chaotic and unfathomable mess that is the GCSE English syllabus
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"tears between the bath and pre-lunch beers" is able to show us the antithesis of what the photographer experiences in relation to the public who see the images. While memory acts as an instrument of suffering towards him in the sense that he can't forget the horror of what he's seen, the readers move on almost instantaneously; the rhyme in 'tears' and 'beers' in the same sentence showing a sense of finality in their memory of the war. They have moved on and 'do not care'
Lovely thanks! Good luck if you're doing the paper this year
But you're gonna get a nine with that analysis anyway ☺
@@Александар-ж3ж a nine is supposed to be perceptive and out of the box - the above wasnt out of the box at all. Most likely a 6
@@abdulchowdhury6165 I got a nine in both English lit and language, I think I would know :p
Jeez big flex 😂
i think it can also be argued that the photographer is similar to the reader in this sense, as he knows how his photos will be received but yet he still takes them and profits off of them, he too is in this cycle of taking them, feeling them, but ultimately moving on and repeating this cycle. at the end of the day ‘he has a job to do.’ - a short simple sentence showing equally how emotionless he is similarly to the british audience.
An interpretation that I can gather from the structure of the poem is that since this entire poem is cyclical, it shows how the war photographer is most heartedly acquainted with those feelings of sorrow and dispair that the emotions now fail to have an effect on him anymore. He has too become of those people who gaze at the war photos trying to gain a deeper meaning from them but fail to really see war in its true bloody form.
So this shows how war is unable to be captured in photos, in this 4×6 photo of a poem if you must, no matter how long the cycle goes on for.
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Recommend watching at 1.25 speed on late watchers.
12 hours till the exam, watching at 2x speed
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Oh my god! The 1.25 speed really works! :D
watch it on super slow, you’ll absorb the knowledge more ;)
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thank you so much for helping everyone out on their GCSEs including me. my GCSEs start in just over two weeks, and i have been revising my ASS off trying to revise quotations for English and knowing the poems and you have really helped me calm down, as your voice seems to sooth me and makes me feel as if a can do this and that i can pass my exams, so thank you xxx
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Also comparing the photographer to a “priest preparing to intone a mass” may suggest how he is trying to spread something which is hard to believe. To citizens, it is hard to understand the harsh reality of war without experiencing it akin to Christians trying to understand the nature of God (as he is transcendent), even with help of a representative of God. Furthermore, due to the falling attendance in churches in the uk, Duffy may also imply that less and less people are interested in the work or things that the photographer conveys as time goes on.
that's good stuff man thanks
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Same, legit just copy n pasting paragraphs
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@@ismaeelrafiq8028 if you are struggling, you can search up on Google " war photographer Genius" it is a good site that has highlighted key words/ bits to help you with the annotations!
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"Belfast. Beirut. Phnom Penh." This is an example of holophrasis where single words are used to express a whole idea. Duffy compresses the conflict and political and social turmoil of these wars to criticise society as a whole, who are ignorant and negligible of the horror and misery of war.
what the hell is holophrasis
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I have watched all the poems in the playlists and have nothing but praise for your videos.
have a mock exam on tuesday and I look well set
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Beautiful analysis! I feel so lucky to be able to watch your videos.
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Thank you really good for my comparison you bring up points that don't enter my mind.
+Sam Sephton good
When looking at the rhyme scheme, I have noticed that the two pairs of rhyme may represent the people who read the newspaper and are oblivious to the war, so they carry on as normal enjoy their life, whilst the two lines where there is no rhyme represents the photographer, where they feel alone and not understood, looking at war and taking pictures of it. It shows how 'they do not care' about the world and the job they have to do, to keep people informed.
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This has helped me so much, thanks alot. Youve given me ideas i wouldnt have thought about in a billion years
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When you have mock exams the next day and your friend who just had the exam told you to revise war photographer
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Could "eyeballs prick with tears" the word "tears" mean as in to tear something up, like how in many wars, soldiers are torn limb from limb. Perhaps this is an ambiguous phrase to yet again show how people differentiate what is real, from what they would like to hear; of course there is sympathy in "tears" but the permanent damage of a "tear" could represent the photographers permanently damaged mental state.
By the way thanks for the analysis it was really innovative, and I really hope your points can help me go up in grades!
tear as in to tear something up could also represent how the readers of the newspapers treat the photos in a newspaper once they're done. People will end up just 'tear'ing up these images to use as a firelight or to cover the table to stop paint spilling. People will just throw it away and not have any more use for it once they have read it and will throw it away showing how little of an impact it has onto people and how much people don't care.
Your dumb bro I’m joking, it’s too ambiguous basically your waffling
This peom is truly very useful as it conveys many ideas about the stucture and the langauge more that what the sir or teacher says....so thank you so much......FROM SRI LANKA♥
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The use of "half-formed" could show how the readers of the Sunday supplement only see a half-formed and ordered reality of the war. Not grasping the true horror of the war from which the photo was taken from.
Ah I do remember those GCSE times! now I come back daily and watch these for fun. :) Love u Bruff!
why would u come back after gcses and watch these for fun lol
@@raystead9362 innit id want to forget them immediately god
Lol
i learn more from a 20 minute video than a 1 hour lesson
Exam tomorrow, sick
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When you said “pre-lunch beers” you said it in the tone of the rap.
I’ve got this as a mock tomorrow and I’m dreading it, I dont know what poem it is so I’m trying to absorb as much info as possible. English literature is my final day of mocks with the meaningless Geog paper 3. But 2hr15.. This really is the final boss
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Thank you so much Mr Bruff your videos have been a huge help to me in my exams
Great!
For anyone trying to annotate 'spools of suffering set out in ordered rows', it might be worth using Mr Bruff's point on the graveyard but referencing to it as a double entendre. Double meaning of graves and the literal meaning of pictures.
dya know the quote "spools of suffering" could u say spools is a metaphor for the thread circulating and repeating like the form of the stanzas
so glad I found this a couple days before my mocks, might actually pass now 😂😂😂
I only know about red room picture development because of the Iron Giant lol
good luck for tomorrow guys!! haven’t done any revision but these videos oops
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The best Analysis I have found while doing my IGCSEs. Great Work. Do you think perhaps another definition for 'half-formed ghost' could be that the man was already dying of his wounds, and so, along with being terribly mutilated, it was almost as if the man was still clinging onto the last remnants of life, but was slowly slipping away. Also lines 11-12. Perhaps the word 'nightmare' conveys how what the photographer had seen was so terrible that it almost seemed impossibly nightmarish.
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what was the poem?
Is there any predictions for which poem it might be for this year???
Why am I watching this when I’ve done my exam!
Our teacher tells us to watch Mr Bruff for homework and the whole class celebrates because otherwise it's just... write a page and a half.
"spools of suffering set out"
The sibalance could be imitating a cameras shutter. He takes a photo and the suffering is "set" in the picture.
There is so much more analysis you could do with this line, Remember to read the comments and use them wisely! Good luck!
Hi Mr Bruff - what about the similarity between the dark room red light and the red sanctuary light of Catholic/Anglican churches representing reserve sacrament and the presence of Christ, rather than symbolising sinister danger?
wht u on
I've always considered it as a sanctuary lamp also
mate what the hell i want what you're taking
Pls come back and explain this point further. I know this was 2 years ago but im neck deep in failed gcses pls help a girl out
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This video just saved my English grade
just wondering if you could explain the dilemma that the war photographer went through as i did not really understand
What harsh realities of war does the war photographer present?
I'm having difficulty finding a good enough point for this that can also compare to another poem. I was thinking either Bayonet Charge or Poppies but I still can't develop a good enough conceptualised point.
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Awe man i have a gcse exam on this urgh
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These are extremely helpful, thank you!
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I thought that the uniform structure and rhyme scheme showed how the "editor" was in control of the public view.
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What are good poems to compare this to. i know you said bayonet charge but you covered so much so there must be some other poems i could use. apreciate any help given
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Wilfred Owen, Carol Ann Duffy, and now this comment? What's the connection with English literature and homosexuality?
Why is this poem not on your power and conflict guide?
So would you say I should compare this with poppies or bayonet charge?
But if we keep thinking of war and its atrocities, won't we become desensitised?
Aren't we already
These are really helping me at the moment, thank you!!
+Lucy Ford no problem!
I have to do a homework revision guide on all the poems so these are really helpful
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thanks for the help on my end of year exam
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I got a 8 in my English Literature GCSE, how the fuck did I do that. I watched mr Bruff all the time in year 10 and 11. Lockdown must’ve hit me hard as I’m doing English A level and I’m dog shit. I can’t remember how to analyse poems and I’ve forgotten numerous literacy devices. Jesus. Might retake the year...
Wow this really helped, thank you :)
This analysis is madness thank you !!
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in the aqa anthology what's the best poems to compare?
Your gonna help me so much got a class test tomorrow 😭
Mr Bruff, does this compare well with remains? Could you suggest why if it does?
Late but
Memory
Both remember the events and compare very well with more specific themes of memory of conflict or the after-effects of conflict
I want to talk about the visual imagery in the poem but I'm not sure what quote is the best to evidence the point. Any suggestions?
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Just quick question. 6:52 is that describing or explaining? Ty
Can you tell me what points can be used from this poem to compare with Poppies if the the question was about the idea of loss? i need as many points as possible
Please can you give me a brief overview of the context i should include in this poem. I am not sure whether the context that you provided in the video is applicable to the essay we would write. Thanks
Could you do an analysis of Carol Satyamurti's "War Photographer?"
what are the top three quotes form this poem
Please talk more about language
This poem isn't actually in the Edexcel anthology so it shouldn't be in the playlist (i just don't want anyone to get confused). The actual poem is War Photographer by Carole Satyamurti, it would be great if you could do a video on it :)
+Alice Beard oh wow thank you!
mrbruff don't worry, this poem is in the AQA anthology
Miss Gilbert sent me here xD
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how come this isn't 'grade 9 analysis'?
Thanks the poem analysis really help me Thank you
+Lyndon Baker great
Mr Bruff, isn't War Photographer written by Carol Satyamurti
+Yasir Plays two different poems both with the same name
mrbruff Ok that makes more sense. Thank you
So what type of poem is this e.g blank verse etc.
Please reply asap
Lottie McBride I think he said that there's no real form