Have you ever heard the tragedy of Kathleen Kennedy? I thought so. (And that's Kennedy's problem)
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You're not being fair, Thor. KK won't just be remembered for destroying Star Wars, she'll also be remembered for destroying Indiana Jones and Willow as well.
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@@LapisAndroid17ParkRanger At least she has not destroyed ET.
Oh no, not Willow...
Add Willow to the list
She'll also be the greatest icon in why Executive Producers are really just people who put their name on projects; and nothing else.
"Actually these two do all the work (Spielberg and Lucas). This fella here (Kennedy) she's what we call the Executive Producer. ... Yeah."
Kennedy " You have turned everyone against me! "
Star Wars Fans " You have done that to yourself! "
Star Wars fans: You are turning Star Wars against us.
Kennedy: You have done that yourself....
Zombie corpse : I am Dead!
@@JohanMsWorld Kennedy doesn’t have the high ground here and she’s NOT the “good guy”. So you have your statement backwards.
@@DamianHowardTVread it again lol they have it right where she is in the place of Anakin and thus the lower ground.
@@caseyhart4999 Ohh yeah, my bad. Makes sense now lol.
She will always be ridiculed and remembered for the South Park skit, a total failure
Thats Iger
@@chiquita683that’s both
@@chiquita683put a chick on it and make it gay
MAKE IT GAY AND I WANT IT LAME!!!
@@switchbladeshawtyyy there are no such thing as Disney executives who replace everyone you love with diverse women who complain about the patriarchy
"The force is female" will always be her legacy for the absolute worst.
Imagine making that your slogan and unwittingly proving why Force is egalitarian
The force is trans 🏳️⚧️🫃
Bro I was a teenager when I heard that shit years ago and thought "hmm weird, probably nothing. The sequels will be in great hands regardless right?"... Present day - HOLY FUCK she's impressed us on how long she waited to put her ideals into Star Wars, now over, coming to the last decade. Next year will mark the 10 years of her reign and it's been horrible. Despite what I liked from any of the Filoni Project & Rogue One, this is DISASTROUS!!
And three tombstones for Han, Luke, and Leia.
@@insane_troll Leia only, because reasons. Luke needs to be retconned and saved, and could be with a smart writer, and we know Harrison would probably come back for the right amount of money for one good film. Having Luke and Han fly off into the sunset together again, mourning Leia, but on a good note, would be worth it all.
“Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Kathleen Kennedy? It’s a tale not likely to be told by other CEOs. She was so smug and arrogant, that she destroyed multi-million dollar IP”
"She won't give up her power. I just learned the terrible truth. I think KK is the Sith Lord."
@@dereklopez9060 "A SITH Lord!?"
😂
@@SixerMason "Yes. The one we've been looking for."
Multi-BILLION….
She made good coffee ☕ then she turned to the dark side
Her legacy will be always being given the single greatest IP in the history of pop culture/cinema (2012) and ruining it in 5 years (2017)
Came earlier than that, when she and her team threw out the EU.
@@saberiandream316 I'm a big EU fan but it did need thrown out, there weren't many stories left to tell and the post NJO period was pretty much ruined for me. I just wish they would have made a show that adapted a fair bit of the bantam era and got rid of the weaker parts of that period. Unfortunately Disney gave me a new timeline that is so bad that I find myself saying "I'd rather accept Kevin J Anderson and then Barbara Hambly as canon than swallow that green milk"
@@BearthatBaresFoodinBellyExactly. The EU was a mixed bag, and talented screenwriters and directors could have used elements from it to make something great instead of more directly adapting any given series. Instead we got poorly planned trash that can make us nostalgic for even the schlockiest EU material.
@@BearthatBaresFoodinBelly There's still plenty of stories left to tell, like the Darth Ruin era, and I'd honestly prefer that FOR the EU, I don't like how derivative of the EU Disney Star Wars is.
@@saberiandream316 Revan definitely deserved a backstory, I feel like that's what they should have done instead of legacy of the force (which murdered Zahn books...). But the old Republic stuff I was honestly burnt out on Sith V Jedi. I do wish Disney would have let the EU live a little longer to properly wrap some things up and maybe even let it continue since they had no issue rereleasing things with a legends tag.
Based on the OT, SW really only had these questions to answer
1. How does Luke restart the Jedi
2. How does the Empire fall
3. What are the Sith
4. Where did the Jedi come from
5. How did Vader fall to the dark side
All of those questions were answered by 99 (minus the origins of the Jedi and the PT) which is why the EU had to do something really out there with the Vong to keep things fresh (love NJO, but yeah there was no way Disney was keeping that)
Star Wars is just nostalgia of the good old times, before the dark times, before Disney and Mrs Kennedy.
Ive been saying this.. Star Wars is in the "nostalgia" genre
When you get old enough everything you enjoyed as a kid or young adult becomes nostalgia. Whatever happens with Star Wars, Lucas' vision is irrelevant to the future of the franchise. I can enjoy Disney Star Wars as entertainment, but its no longer a passion of mine. A day comes where you have to accept that something is not and won't be what it was and to either accept it for what it is, or let it go.
I think she's a sith lord
More than that the point of the series is to create future nostalgia in the next viewing generation. Like a lot of nerd pop culture it is not ultimately meant for adults, rather it is the stepping stone. Disney didn’t kill Lucasfilm the old audience just grew up and it will be a decade or two before people know if the projects were successful with the correct target audience.
Have no fear, my fellow Star Wars fans: I'm sure Disney will find someone even worse to replace her.
I don't know, man... There are talks of a hostile takeover of Disney...
@@MCsCreations where do I sign up to help?
@coda7994 Well, people are talking about Musk, Peltz and others. But I don't know where to sign up, otherwise I'd already have done it!
@@MCsCreations ah that makes sense, I could see that happening
@@MCsCreations You know... I bet Musk would probably be actually worse. He would find a way.
The legacy of Kathleen Kennedy is failure. Hypocrisy, hubris.
Just the idea that one could bank on the Rey movie to save their legacy sounds absolutely hilarious to me.
Well, you can make Rey movie work. It would be uphill battle, but it’s possible - the idea of rebuilding Jedi order can be used to fix Star Wars, because it could be turning point to Rey.
But they won’t be able to. They hate Lucas legacy, and will continue to destroy it in the name of their own ego.
@Alpha___00 there is no making a Rey movie work, the character has negative good will, and will turn more people off than will attract. Could be the best written movie ever, it will be kneecapped by the inclusion of Rey
@@noneyabizness6094I think so too. The worst part? Rebuilding the jedi order was what everyone wanted from LUKE. Disney burnt him and his legacy to ashes, and are using it fertilize the DoA Rey movie.
It almost like they purposely ruined Luke, so they could hand over what should have been HIS legacy to a non-character. Now we have to care for Rey, because she is the one rebuilding the jedi order
@@Alpha___00There are a lot of things possible. For a good Rey movie you only need a brillant idea, a perfect script, a highly talented director and very good supporting actors. In that case also Rey could be in the lead. But how likely is that?
@@Alpha___00 Well yes, in theory, but everything leaked about the plot says it's more insufferable girl boss, intersection politics gobbledygook. Her self-insert fantasy is never going to score a big win.
Kathleen Kennedy:
*Wants to go out with a win*
*Also approves the Acolyte and a Rey movie*
Visible Confusion
Spot on. Her putting a psychopath in charge of the acolyte certainly didn’t help matters.
Both of them are.
Who also put her own wife in a major lead role no less! In a badly written, poorly executed, smutty, woke excercise in nepotism and narcissistic dad hating heterophobia!
Harvey Weinstein's accomplice didn't help her either
Yeah putting Harvey Weinstein's accomplice in charge was a face palm head scratching failure
The Acolyte flopped.
But it did give us Darth Zipper
What’s wild is that she thought she was legitimately doing well, that she was making Star Wars better, that’s the delusional bubble people like her can exist in, surrounded by yes-men. She destroyed Star Wars, it’s in shambles right now, I truly don’t know what George was thinking leaving her in charge. If she waits until she has a win before leaving the company, she will be there until she dies.
George leaving KK in charge was a bigger error than Jar Jar, Greedo shooting first, and Hayden in Return of the Jedi combined.
@@semperterra3235 Hayden is a fairly good actor though. Even a great actor would struggle with what he was given to work with.
I think he saw her as an ally because they have known each other for at least four decades and worked with her on multiple occasions and thought she would do right by him. Instead, she saw it as an opportunity to inject her own ideas and sensibilities into the work and this is the result.
@@semperterra3235 Because he did the same: surrounded himself with yes-men and yes-women.
Someone had the idea, that Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney and left KK in charge to ruin it on purpose. 😈
One good movie can't save Star Wars. The damage is so pervasive and devastating that you would have to build the franchise from the ground up at this point. Star Wars literally changed my life back in 1977. Now it doesn't even register on my radar when I hear an announcement. What we have now is not Star Wars.
My late brother was born in 1977, he loved R2-D2 so much, when he saw a phone themed on Artoo, he offered to buy... what was actually the bar's actual landline phone...
I was there from the beginning in 1977 too. 20 years ago if you told me that I wouldn't care about new Star Wars anymore I would say you are crazy and yet here we are.
@@7thwheel It really does seem unthinkable doesn't it. Yet, as you say, here we are.
Same with Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who since the early 2000s! ☹️👎
I would disagree still fun to see but it feels a lot more generic sci fi
KK is pretty much like Amy from Amy's Baking Company in Kitchen Nightmares.
They both probably know how to make coffee
Haha! great comparison!
Except Amy was actually a good baker by all accounts. KK doesn't even have that going for her.
Now that's a show worth watching, even today, if you never have.
I thought of that before, but forgot... but, yeah, it's also coming back is Kitchen Nightmares!
Kk is like an evil politician at this point
(But less intense)
Holding onto power while driving her own country into the ground. Meanwhile the people protest with sadly little to no success.
And then when she dies, everyone has to pretend to be sad rather than rejoice that a tyrant is finally dead....
Never thought of her as Trump, but I get your point.
"I'll make the best Star Wars! The most tremendous; the most inclusive! Women love it! They'll have to love it; women come up to me with tears in their eyes saying, 'Thank you, Madame President, for saving Star Wars.'"
@@spaceknight793
Bruh, she's more like Kamala Harris...
@@ellugerdelacruz2555I'd say Kier Starmer is a better choice. a couple of weeks in and the UK is already on fire
Lucasfilm had made $33 Billion before her. A decade after she took over Forbes states once taking into accout the expenses shes generated she still hasn't made back the $4 Billion it cost to aquire it.
Some legacy...
A legacy of debt and failure. No wonder people defend her. She's just like people with university/college debts and a useless degree.
Women who can make competent executives are very, very rare, and KK is not among them.
@@KnullenVoid-c7i But if watching modern movies has taught me anything, it's that women just need to realize they're already the best CEO's.
@@KnullenVoid-c7i a man hired her
@@nickelundertone Yeah, one with poor judgement.
Goodbye, Darthleen you won't be missed
Only a legacy of evil Darth.
"Goodbye, so long, farewell, auv wiedersein, adjieu! Don't call us, we'll call you..." etc, etc!
How did Rogue One get past her without her ruining it?
It almost was. There was a massive reorganization and staff replacement.
The real question is how Andor survived... but the answer was because none of the "Creatives" were interested and so saw no reason to try "leaving the mark."
Sadly... now I'm sure they'd love to stick their jam hands into Season 2.
Andor also stars a Hispanic man. This doesn't matter one iota to me, but it does to certain people who like check boxes.
I didn't like Rogue One that much. Thought it was 'okay.' I'd watch it again, but Vader telling Dad jokes? CGI Leia? NTY. Most of the movie bored me. Whoever said we don't need Jedi was wrong 😢 but yay space battles.
@@joshmalone7692Rogue One was actually really good! Idk what you were expecting 😅
R1 was already in early development before the sale to Disney, George was considering it as a mini series for his live action TV show or possibly as a movie. John Knoll came up with it while working on RotS in 2005
At this point even if she herself announced she was retiring or exited this mortal coil I would be dreading hearing the news that somehow Kathleen Kennedy returned.
Once Kennedy is put out to pasture, they need to do a complete reboot of the Disney era. Toss most of it into Legends, and start fresh. Maybe keep Rogue One, Solo, and Andor, but anything touched by the whole Rey/Kylo/Snoke business needs to go because it just such a total storytelling dead end. I re-watched the Sequel Trilogy the other day on cable, and it's just a wretched, pointless, soulless mess. It just reeks of corporate memos, micromanaging, and rewrites that it feels like it was churned out by an AI. I was actually counting fingers.
It's so sad that they had one chance to nail it and threw it in the trash.
Does this include Kenobi and Mandalorian? I actually liked those two for the most part, but I agree that the Disney Trilogy and some others need to go.
@@greatgamersgame9881 I think at this point, it's like chemotherapy or amputation, You have to kill some of the healthy tissue to salvage what you can. It all depends on what you want to do with the franchise going forward. First you need to come up with a solid coherent story that'll last X amount of time and then you go to work chopping away at anything that won't fit within that framework. Going by what I've personally outlined on some forums hear and there, the only things I would even try to salvage are Rebels, parts of Rogue One, and maybe part of Mando.
@@greatgamersgame9881 Kenobi goes, first two seasons of Mando stays.
@@lordfirebeard8569I accept these terms.
Kenobi leaves Tatooine? Yeah no.
Until she leaves Lucasfilm, I'm not watching any more content from them.
Same
Honestly the only thing that can "save" this is if they make a Luke Skywalker show that ends with him starting an Academy in a way where I can watch said show in isolation and pretend everything ended there.
Same
@@BearthatBaresFoodinBelly It's gonna take a lot of lore fixing before I can ever forget the abomination known as TLJ
@@mikegrady5669Or just make Lucas’ trilogy and move on like the Disney trilogy never happened. It’s not that complicated.
imagine if Kathleen Kennedy finally leaves Lucasfilm, but is replaced by Leslye Headland 💀💀💀
You almost made me choke on my drink lol
I could see that.
The power of one!
The power of two!
The power of manyyyyyy
FLOPS!
Why even say this and potentially speak it into existence????
I’m going to pretend you never said that
We literally have a Lego Star Wars special that has a line making fun of how dumb the sequels are and that Luke would not want to fix the timeline to make sure all of that stuff happens.
Yo really? Where's that?
@@StickNik Go check out the new trailer for the Lego Star Wars Rebuild The Galaxy
@@StickNikrebuild the galaxy trailer
The true tragedy for me is that before Disney, I used to watch the 6 movies at least 4 times a year. The reality is I haven't seen any of them for years now. I just don't care. Not only have they failed in thier efforts to create new content, they have done it so badly they have ruined my enjoyment of the entire franchise.
Honestly, I was in the same position as you until a few months ago: I hadn't watched Star Wars (except for very short clips on UA-cam) for years. And then I started watching the whole saga again, and it was a great experience. Refreshing, almost.
knowing how Luke's
story ends has killed any enjoyment I could get from the OT
That was exactly their goal.
How she has managed to keep her job is the mystery I can’t fathom
I agree. She would love to end her SW era with a billion dollar hit but....... she is doing a lot to leave with a huge flop. Her SW era is a HUGE FLOP
I'm sure the Rey movie will be the smash hit she's looking for!
She'll go down in history as the most reviled character in the Star Wars universe.
“Once _STAR WARS_ into a failure you make, ever shall it dominate your legacy.”
I mean she could have saved some face by claiming that the toxic fanbase was too mean to her and used this as a pretext to leave Lucasfilm. But it is already seven year since the release of the last jedi, so that excuse won't work anymore.
What is even her legacy? Willow2? Got deleted at Disney+. Indiana Jones? Film was too expensive and was a flop. Also who asked for a deconstruction of Idiana jones.
Star wars? How she managed to screw up star wars is still remarkable.
Kathleen Kennedy needs to hope that her successor is even more incompetent than her. Alternativly Star wars becomes so irrelevant that nobody cares about her failures.
I fear Star Wars is looking at an even grimmer fate: becoming generic scifi slop and its already happening.
KK is a bit like Jack Sparrow... you know, the worst pirate ever.... but we have heard about him... ;o)
Tragedy? More like a bad comedy
We were all crying from laughing at how tragic it all was.
@@Noplayster13A bad joke that just keeps on going
A Shakespearean comedy where we are laughing simply out of reflex because we have been so thoroughly traumatized that we can't do anything else. Very like the Red Hood becoming the Joker in Killing Joke.
Kathleen Kennedy is no Oedipus
The massive problem with KK leaving is what replaces her because it can still get worse. Even if she hasn't been doing a good job I don't have much faith in the people under her or much faith in the people selecting her replacement. Someone who would well in that role might exist, but we wouldn't know for years into their tenure when their first projects actually come out.
Yes, thank you! I've said this all along. If anything, we could somehow find ourselves pining for the days of Kathleen Kennedy, it's possible, it could always get worse. That's my fear if Dave Filoni takes over. That guy is determined to butcher the EU into his own selfish vision. He has no respect for other artists.
To quote Star Trek, it appears KK's ( and Disney's by association) overall position towards Star Wars has been "the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many", where it should be "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one".
in 10 years SW will fall so far people will say "why is there an entire section of Disney Land dedicated to Star Wars'?
It's a graveyard
How could Rey's portrayal in the sequels as a colossal Mary Sue even be undone?
Simple Make the sequels non canon and make an heir to the empire adaptation.
They could established it was a story told by a child?
@@IhavethetouchThat would be quite insulting to the creative imagination of children.
@@mleadenham1 True, but it also fits with the playground mentality of "Nuh-uh, because I have an anti-Iron Man shield."
Show Luke waking up from the nightmare that was the sequels
It’s fortunate that the only canon that matters is the one in our heads. Can you imagine feeling obliged to accept the Disney Trilogy’s story, or being required to like that nonsense?!
Yeah, to me, Disney isn't canon.
That's not what happens, and having the money to buy a property doesn't mean you get to decide.
I can write a sequel to Don Quixote, but it doesn't make it canon.
@@blackieblackthe worst part about it, is that we'll never get a continuity where Luke rebuilding the order, Han is a happy family man and Leia is a great politician.
We are stuck with one where they all became shells of their former selves, and any movie LF makes in the future, will have this rotten core as it's foundation
She will be remembered as the woman who destroyed two of the most beloved IPs in pop culture. Starwars and Indiana Jones.
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." - Kathleen Kennedy, probably
Anytime i think of bad hatchet jobs on franchises, she is the walking punchline
There’s absolutely no way that Kennedy will have a hit with the Rey film. It COULD have, but NOT with the director she hired. I think it’s actually impossible. The director has NO blockbuster/mainstream experience.
Let's also say that, when in the interview where you present yourself to the public, you continue to talk about how much you like to embarrass men and how a female presence is needed in this saga (instead of talking about what you want to narrate, and above all how recover the numbers of fans preceding the Disney trilogy), the stench of organic matter can be smelled quite distinctly.😂
I sincerely doubt that any Star Wars film could be a hit now.
Why do they keep doing this? Why do they keep hiring people with no experience producing these big and expensive films? Is it because someone did this once, the film was a huge success, and now everyone is trying to hit gold again? Because it's dumb. It's like the idea that because Bill Gates dropped out of college and Steve Jobs made Apple in his garage, anyone could do the same.
@@nobillismccaw7450 If we talk about new films after the sequel trilogy and the TV series (apart from Andor and the first two seasons of The Mandalorian), I think it is almost impossible to regain the public's trust... wanting to make a comparison, I am very doubtful about Alien Romulus whether to go and see it or not, given that the latest Alien themed productions, but also Predator, were not unmissable, on the contrary.
Reap what you sow! Division, Ridicule & Criticism, all pointed towards a loyal fanbase who'll still be here once she and her misandrist cronies are gone! Good Riddance! MTFBWY!
The Force would definitely NOT be with them.
The problem is that ever since tlj, media and industry continue to insist this is a customer problem, not a management problem.
CEO Kennedy can want anything but even if SW scores another $2 billion dollar film with SW Episode X, it won't change the bitterness of many nor heal the rift in the Fandom as "defense" or "attack" of SW has gotten too personal and political/activist for any reconciliation to come quickly or easily. Her departure would just be an opportunity, not guarantee that things change.....
That's the thing. I mean, is some of it a customer problem? Sure. I'll concede that. But it's the absolute refusal that ANY of it is a management problem is the biggest issue. What they really need is more shows like Mando. Across the board it's at least a _good_ show(except for S3 maybe. Still haven't seen S3). Many people liked it. They don't need break-out *great* shows because you'll keep the extremes. Funny enough, I think Skeleton Crew might be a good start there. Might be.
I hope when she leaves, star wars fans make it a holiday, in universe or not
Yub Nub intensifies
I don't think KK leaving would save Star Wars. Disney tends to promote from within, and I don't think there's anybody high up in Kennedy's team that wouldn't be even worse.
The definition of a failure who gets promoted upward. Disney doubling down on their failures
It would be ironical if KK is hoping the Rey movie establishes her legacy. A movie which still has no script and has been pushed to a possible release in 2026!
I mean if Daisy Ridley really isn’t feeling well …she shouldn’t really be doing a big film like this so it might be delayed further
@@billmcdermott9647I’m sure she wants better things for herself than playing Kathleen Kennedy’s British alter-ego.
It's sad that there is more drama behind the scenes with Disney Star Wars than on the screen!
When the time comes, she will be convinced that she leaves with a positive legacy because "Star Wars is a welcoming place for everyone now. Women are not only in front of the camera, but behind it too."
The reality though is that she took a beloved franchise for young boys and their dads and drove them away in pursuit of a bigger audience that was never there in the first place.
@@TheMeeesterT gatekeeper
@mrfloosak not really because I have no control over it. It's just an opinion that was written late at night. I'll admit, it was clumsily written but I stand by the last paragraph.
You stick with it if you like it.
Who should replace her? Would it be all that surprising if they choose a successor who's a lot like her?
They bought the right to the name and the music, but Disney will never own Star Wars and its fans.
I just don't understand why Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy aren't purged!!!!
Episode 10 is going to be the first Star Wars movie I skip. And that blows my goddamned mind.
Go back in time and tell your kid self that. Mind blowing. EPISODE 10!? That was such a dream for me as a kid :( let alone 7-9
9 was the first for me. I’ve never actually watched and I am untroubled by this.
The last Star Wars I watched was TFA. I didn't like it and then, when I heard what they did to Luke in TLJ, I said, "Nope. Not watching it." I haven't seen any since then. I have the original trilogy and that's enough, along with a few of the novels I really enjoyed.
She tries to salvage her legacy... with a movie that no one wants, featuring a character no one likes, all because she refuses to acknowledge what the fans want. Yeah, let me know how that works for you Kathy.
I see KK/LF doubling down on past poor decisions, not course correcting. This is pretty obvious to me, and I feel like most rational fans see the same thing. The "Rey Movie" will likely be as bad as or possibly a little better than The Acolyte. 🙏
Count Dooku, "Good, twice the pride, double the fall".
She did this to herself. She put herself & her ego before the project😢😢😢
I believe her greatest Legacy will be that the word "somehow" for ever will have an added meaning. Not in a good way though.
Spielberg’s coffee fetcher. Her most successful role.
See at this point I hope she never gets a "win" because she DOES NOT deserve one. Let her stay until she can no longer physically come into work and is forced to retire.
After everything she has done to star wars and Indiana jones, after smearing the fans who called out the poison she green lit and after the way she treated Gina carano (or how she allowed her to be treated) it's the least this woman deserves. To be known and remembered not just as a complete failure but a vain and selfish failure who sacrificed millions or perhaps even billions of dollars in an attempt to salvage a reputation that after she refused to leave will always be "The woman who destroyed Star Wars".
Katheleen Kennedy wanted to leave her mark on Star Wars and scared it badly instead.
She left a mark all right, a mark that oozes pus and will never completely heal.
So she is 71, now I understand her stubbornness and why she is so disconnected from the real world, acting like she knows better than most of the fans.
KK going out on a “win” would be like someone who doesn’t play the lottery winning it.
it’s never going to happen.
her legacy is and will be caring more about her petty little political views more than this beloved franchise that she has been blessed to lead.
that she didn’t treat this franchise with the love and respect that it deserves.
that she murdered and then pissed on the creation of George Lucas.
Rest assured, she’ll blame any ill will on fans and not the crap that Disney shat out under her “leadership.”
Hey Thor, I wanted to share a bit about the rebound of my love for SW.
A few years back, whenever Boba Fett released, I dropped the show before it even ended, and became quite apathetic toward the franchise. I continued to tune in occasionally to SW YT channels every so often such as yourself, but only as a way to keep up to date in a sense. I chalked my apathy up to just fatigue with the franchise that I consumed on a regular basis since I was 5 years old and saw TFM for the first time.
However, about a month ago I decided to hop back on SWTOR one day out of boredom, a game that I had played so much, I've completed all 8 story classes. Even though I had completed the main stories for every single class, I decided to start a new character and play through the game again and my love for SW has reignited.
Turns out, I don't have fatigue for the franchise, I just have fatigue for shitty story telling and nonsensical plots.
I'm writing this story for as a plea to others that, we don't hate the current SW content because of the age old excuse of "people love to hate". I genuinely want SW to succeed, I love the universe, the characters, the lore, the worlds, the alien races, languages, I have 5' long ISD for God's sake. I love SW, but I hate poor story telling and it's has killed the ability for people like me to consume new SW content.
@@TheCloudCreation you seem genuine and many that don’t like new Star Wars. But 75% of these comments betray sexist attitudes toward Kennedy and all the female fronted films and shows are hated. Even Obi Wan is hated because they included a black female for like 5 minutes an episode.
@@mrfloosak I don't really see any comments that do that? I'll see comments that complain about the black female character in Obiwan, but not because she is black and/or female, but rather because she someone manages to survive multiple lightsaber stabbings, and is an overall poorly written character.
@@TheCloudCreation the fact that she’s in the episode for like 5 minutes and people lose their minds suggests differently. Everyone loves the Mandalorian but Lizzo shows up for 5 minutes and it’s the worst season ever. If it were just that it was poorly written it would be forgotten about by the next day. Sone of the criticisms are legitimate. It is the over the top criticism that is suspect. Especially when they mention the gender or try to preface it with (it’s not because I’m sexist or racist) or uses terms like forced agenda. That is bothering them more than Simple bad writing. If the criticism doesn’t mention Kathleen Kennedy or Reva ,or Lizzo who are relatively minor characters I take it a lot more seriously.
Yet nother "KK is leaving" video amongst thousands ever since The Last Jedi released. Believe when I see it.
The fact there have been thousands of videos of rumors of her quitting tells me the day she does quit will be a massive celebration
“Have you ever heard the tragic tale of Darth Kennedas the Woke?”
i'll continue to say the same things i've said since The Farce Awokens: there's no part of this that can be salvaged.
if Kennedy wants a win before her exit, she's going to have to execute a mea culpa / about-face: reinstate the EU, greenlight a trilogy/multi-miniseries combo that brings the original Thrawn trilogy to the screen, and give the fans an on-screen realization of all the things that made the Disney acquisition *worth* the $4.05B investment in the first place.
or she can simply accept that the writing has been on the wall since the TFA casting call and retire.
those are the only two ways that the fans *and* the Star Wars IP can win.
The nail in the coffin for me was when she went to bat for Rian Johnson, showing she had no care for the story, the lore, or the characters
Filoni got away with it for years, so why did they expect anything different from Rian Johnson?
I still can't believe that the Rey movie will see the light of day. But... KK has never failed to disappoint.
Hey Thor, do you think Star Wars could be handled better by a different studio? Let's face it at this point, anyone else would be better than Disney, but do you think they would make the same mistakes or perhaps avoid them because of Disney's failures on making good Star Wars content?
A24 Star Wars movie when? Actually get to see the horror side of the Sith
Sadly Disney will never sell off Star Wars.
They just need a new direction with a new president. Someone better than Kathleen that can hire the right director
@@Deuteromis It would be interesting to see how much they would get for it.
@@semperterra3235 If they were to sell it off, they probably try to sell it for twice what they bought it for.
The "Luke Skywalker is a cobweb character" philosophy was the iceberg that she crashed into.
Why did I get casino vibes from this?
“I may have lost everything, but if I go one more time I can win it all back!”
She did have accomplishments. The coffee was decent, I hear.
Also, you were very neutral the whole way through but that last phrase was brutal and very satisfying.
She does deserve every bit of sourness from people who had to watch one of the things that helped them through rough times get destroyed bit by bit.
I find it funny that they've sort of tried to redeem the sequels a couple of times, only to pull the rug out from under them. E.g. "Project: Necromancer" has appeared in two separate shows, and both times been ended before it could be used to justify the terrible return of Palpatine, Mount Tantiss and all the research being destroyed and scientists killed in The Bad Batch, and Gideon hijacking the project which then got destroyed in The Mandalorian!
Almost like the writers of those shows don't want to associate their work with the sequels but still have to keep up appearances.
A sfor the new movie. The sequel trilogy is a poor foundation to build upon, they proved this with The Resistance.
It's just a dumb retroactive reason to move research to Exegol, also Wayland is mostly Thrawn plot point anyway
Apart from Andor, first season of the Mandalorian and some episodes of Ahsoka, her legacy is forgetrable.
I think rougue one was also pretty good
If you don't want to be remembered for doing terrible things, don't do terrible things. It's really pretty simple.
To quote dark helmet from space balls, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. And what's this to do with Kennedy? Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become.
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It states "world" twice for The Last Jedi.
This reminds me of a great quote from The King’s Man movie: “Our enemies think we are gentlemen. But reputation is how people think of you. Character is who you are.”
Hey Thor, my thought on Kennedy is the Peter principal is in effect, as all her skills that she built up over her career just did not transfer to being in charge of Lucasfilm. Worse than that, she does not seem to learn from mistakes that she has made. In fact she doubles down on them and tends to just make everything worse.
It's way too late for her to save her legacy at this point
Hey Thor if you see this text, I do have a question for you. Hypothetically, speaking of course, Lets say if someone did get Star Wars away from Disney and re-wrote the Sequels. However they would have to re-cast the classic characters(Luke, Han, Leia, etc). Would that really cause extreme anger in the fanbase? I mean, if someone did re-write the sequels, recasting is a reality and the most natural course(for a proper reunion). The CGI face feels so creepy & unnatural. Getting a younger cast that looks similar to the old actors isn’t disrespectful and honestly is the best option. So many other classic characters in other franchises have been recast multiple times, so the idea is not out of left field here.
That doesn't sound like a bad idea. Realistically, I'm certain Star Wars fans can understand why they needed to recast the big three. And I felt Donald Glover played a great younger Lando, so it's not impossible to find other people able to do a great job.
@@cybertramon0012 Finally someone gets it! It’s strange how some fans think I’m being “disrespectful” because I’m suggesting a recast. For crying out loud, like I said before, it’s been done for multiple movies and shows. It’s way better than CGI. I’ve never seen the Solo movie but I agree Glover is pretty good as a young Lando, including the guy as Solo. I’m pretty sure there are more new actors waiting for a big chance and maybe they would knock it out of the park as Luke & Leia. Hey maybe even a new beautiful actress as Mara Jade. I’m just saying lol 😂
I can totally believe she’s hanging about, hoping against hope that she can pull something, *anything* resembling a success out of the wreckage that is Disney Wars, but I don’t think she’s got the chops to do it. Her petty, spiteful nature gets in the way far too much for anything she’s associated with to not suck.
I have see some of Reddit defend Kathleen Kennedy and it's hilarious. I'm a sure some will comment trying to defend her. I know a certain someone and can't wait for their response.
Maybe if Indiana Jones was a smash hit, she might have retired
Have you noticed, old people never want to let go of power.
The tragedy is she got hired.
That was unfortunately George's doing.
To be honest, there's a couple of things at this point that could be considered a win for her but she's not going to like it.
-Apologize for the state of Star Wars and attacking the fanbase
-Retcon the sequel trilogy
-Reestablish the EU
That's as big of a "win" she's gonna get out of this.
So basically, conceding and folding. Getting out before things get even worse for her.
Star Wars died when Darth Kennedy took over. Now after over a decade, even the bones has turned into dust. Her Disney contract ends this October. If she is still is in employment at LucasFilms after October. Then Bob Iger is the among the most stupid executives in Hollywood. Killing one of the most successful franchise's in movie history and still not fired for it. For over a decade. Bob Iger is taking cluelessness into a brand new level.
She has dirt on him
The Sequels, Galaxies Edge, the Star Wars Starcrusier, I'm not sure the Logic in their Decisions?? It's watered down. They can call it
"Space Stars".
Her good legacy will be the Panderverse, without her SP would have never created that episode, the Lucasfilm work she made us endure can't be counted as good legacy, she destroyed everything.
Based on how far these huge IPs fell, KK is in fact the WORST studio head in the history of Hollywood. That is her legacy...
yeah how do you ruin star wars? Just get George in, get him a screenwriter. Finito
She'll ruin her legacy worse than Zidane did in his final match.
zidane defended his honor, his legacy is intact
@@ahnok2855 exactly! Comparing ZiZu to KK is totally incorrect.
@@ahnok2855 Then how come is he now mostly remembered for being goated by Materazzi into headbutting him rather than being remembered as a talented football player?
@@vetarlittorf1807 I suppose that memory is not universal because I have never met anyone, who regards Zidane as such. Even now, as a manager, he is remembered more for his skill than the headbutt.
@@vetarlittorf1807i mostly know him for being a killer manager
In a weird way, I hope she does get her Rey Sequel... because she's kinda destined to mess it up. The more she messes up, the more likely of a full reboot of her lore.
If she just leaves I fear instead we'll just get Dave Filoni making twenty more years of Ahsoka defeating not well adapted versions of previous Legends characters. Which have just a big enough crowd of fans to make some profit if they keep the budget small enough... but essentially losing most of the fanbase.
That's exactly what ol' Hat Felony will do. While Rey was fighting a handful of royal guards on Exegol, Ahsoka was alive and well and lightsabering down a battalion of them! And, during TFA, she blocked one of the Starkiller beams with her perfect silver blade!
"You know who os the hardest man to break? The one who is fooling himself! It's far more comforting living a convenient lie than to stand up and face the truth!"
I would love to step across the aisle and help Kennedy get a win. She had an opportunity to give us something special. She had an opportunity to do something that would unite the fandom across generations and across ideologies. We could've had Luke, Leia, and Han sharing the screen one last time.
To find out that they had no plan for the Sequels, Carrie is dead, and we're being gaslit and called a toxic manbabies for simply wanting good Star Wars for a decade straight. My heart has hardened and has grown cold.
I'm afraid one success isn't going to heal Star Wars. Not even an apology. The damage is severe and the only thing KK can do is *$%! off and take her activist yes-men with her. The trust to get back is going be twice as long as the decade they took to wreck it.
The fact they were making the sequels up as they went sounds so stupid to me. George might've gotten away with it because he didn't even know he was making a trilogy until Return of the Jedi, but Disney knew they were going for a trilogy. Even if things had to change due to circumstances like Carrie dying, there should've been a general idea and story for the whole thing.
There is a possibility of the Mando movie doing well enough being that mando and grogu have been the only plus of Disney starwars. Though I'm not sure that's enough at this point.
Ps. Andor was good but not enough people seemed to care unfortunately.
Even if Kennedy leaves, I’m not coming back. Disney enabled and allowed this.
I suspect The Acolyte will get a second season precisely because Andor is getting a second season. Andor, despite being the best written Star Wars under Disney, didn't do well. If Star Wars recovers its reputation, I think Andor will become a cult classic.
She's not getting fired. It's honestly the sunk cost fallacy at this point. The irreparable damage she's done to Star Wars clearly doesn't measure up to how much Disney will lose if they fire her.
But, no king rules forever. Maybe someday in the far future, Star Wars can rise from the ashes and tell a good story again.