But in real off-roading, the manual transmission goes better than the automatic transmission. Also the manual transmission is more durable, faster and more economical. But one thing every Subaru fan knows that it does not matter if you have a manual or an automatic both are very cool. This is a car that goes perfectly on off-road, in the city, on the highway and on the track. Subaru has some problems but we still love it❤️❤️❤️❤️
Wow! Big surprise... Never seen such clear difference between the awd system on the manual vs the automatic... With the automatic coming out clearly better! Nice test!
I know mine is a manual, but I have Hi-LOW like the old 4x4's I used to drive, which is an advantage, but advantage for the manual, as the clutch is tiny, so LOW range helps. I would be so happy to have the VDC together with the viscus that changes power between front and rear with huge margin. I am 39 and ever since I was a teenager and the early TC/ESP came out, I was wondering why BMW or Benz aren't using the break on the spinning wheel, cars started using it years later. This what VDC does right, it applies breaks on the wheel that lets the power spin out of (it's the early X-Drive system, No?) I've seen a RAV4 doing well with same system as X drive on 2023 model, but the Subaru is utilizing it better due to the symmetrical axels/AWD. I just couldn't spent the 2.5XT money in 2010 and got since Subaru are behind on some other tech, the Automatic was 4 gears, a 4 gear auto on the 150hp Forester would be a suicide, it's slow enough with 5@@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@@Valdismith Benz was one of the first to use brakes (traction control), Bmw also did it before Subaru and before xDrive debuted. And it was quite effective system. I'm not sure what you mean by Rav4 with the same system as xDrive, they are very different. When it comes to Subaru - majority of their new cars are missing center diff, there's clutch pack shifting power from front to back.
I own 04 fxt auto and manual both, the manual gets snow tires in the winter, I’ve never needed anything other than all season for the auto, even with vf39 “stage 3” swap (STi stage 2), auto never has any traction issues, manual seems to need to hunt for traction a bit more, which can be fun, but slower around the autox track on mixed tarmac and loose road
@@bmoore8853 lucky. I have only got a manual one lol wish i could collect those cars in different trims. The 06' 2.5xt is so fun to slide on snowy roads!
It would probably be a similar result. The issue isn't power, it's how the power gets directed to the wheels with traction. As fun as it is driving with a manual, the automatics have a better version of the Symmetrical AWD system. VTD makes a huge difference. That said, it's a real hoot to drive around with a manual XT though.
Temat jest trochę bardziej skomplikowany niż tylko MT vs AT. Przy skrzyni automatycznej występują dwa rodzaje S-AWD, kluczowe jest także to, czy VDC jest na pokładzie.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I love the control more, brakes last way longer when you know how to down shift. Sliding around in the snow is more controlled BUT I will say your video showed how much better automatic it is getting out of spots.
Same here. Had a manual XT 2.5, blew the engine a couple of times and I now own an auto XT 2.0(older, non VDC sadly). Auto is way better off-road but I miss the control of the manual a lot when driving on road...
Cześć 😀 Generalnie bardzo się cieszę, że jest taki polski kanał. Napędy AWD, 4WD i 4×4 To temat rzeka i niegdyś zmuszony byłem oglądać zagranicznego Yt żeby się czegoś dowiedzieć A teraz jak widać dużo jest właśnie osób z zagranicy na Twoim kanale. Ogółem bardzo dobra robota i profesjonalne wykonanie ;) Jakbyś mógł powiedzieć jak plasujesz napęd S-AWD od Subaru? W sensie jak dobry on jest i gdzie umiejscowilbys go w rankingu najlepszych napędów? 😀
Cześć, dzięki :) Co do S-AWD - w zasadzie niezależnie, który rodzaj rozpatrzymy - jest to najwyższa półka. Oczywiście Subaru nie jest samo na tej półce, ale te napędy nie zawodzą.
FYI the AT XT has the LSD dif, vs the manual has the open. Not apples to apples. The only good comparison is the front or rear only. Good representation of front vs rear.
Cześć, rozważam zakup Forestera SG, interesuje mnie tylko 2.0 manual z reduktorem. Czy w tej wersji jest tylko jedna wersja napędu? Czy napędy różnią się między przedliftem a poliftem? Czy SG manual ma napęd realizowany tak samo jak stary SF manual? Z góry dzięki za odpwiedź i pozdrawiam :)
Interesting - I’ve 2011 Forester S Auto and a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel auto with Quadra-Drive II. If there’s only traction on a single wheel, 100% of power goes to it. Incredible ability on mixed surfaces AT tyres. Unfortunately the car is now dying ! The Forester much much better handling of course, but I’m going to miss that ultimate Jeep “get out of jail capability”!! I’m now looking for a cheap 5sp Outback or Forester for my son to learn on, and that will be a suitable second car for the family.
Forester S Auto probably has the VTD awd system, great solution with slightly rwd balance. Manual Forester or Outback has VCD awd system, less advanced than VTD but still very capable.
So basically the automatic is great for the librarian that needs to get to her job and not get stuck. Meanwhile everybody that has two nuts between their legs drive the stick because it is way more fun to drift all wheel drive on snow.
@@anonim1133 sure it depends just manual could use full throtle where VDC can just limit your throtlle because it would think its too much wheel spin. TC off helps some sure.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers zaraz 😁 na odwrót to tak, ale jak jest wyłącznik, to z reguły kontroli trakcji po to, by np jechać po śniegu, piachu itp. Jeśli czegoś wyłączyć nie można to prędzej właśnie ESP niż TC 🤔
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers natomiast to co napisałem cholernie kłóci się z tym co widzę na Twoich filmach, gdzie przy wyłączonym ESP auta mają lepszą trakcję 🤨 co tez jest delikatnie nielogiczne
@@marcinobodzinski52 No właśnie nie 🙂 W większości przypadków jest tak, że po wyłączeniu ESP komputer nie ingeruje w obroty silnika, ale układ hamulcowy cały czas pozostaje aktywny.
@@mercenary1485 There are much more reliable engines than 2.5T. But in this case it's not only the matter of VDC but also VTD, which manual doesn't have. In terms of performance - definitely worth it. In terms of maintenance costs - definitely not. Edit: don't confuse the names VCD and VDC, these are different things.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah my bad on the typo, thank you by the way, I’ll probably get the XT Limited just for the added boost of performance off road and on
cinek505241513 w zyciu nie. Czterobiegowy automat to padaka, mialem w Forku i Outbacku. Cieszylby moze w 1999. 5 biegowy 5EAT jest duzo szybszy i lepszy, ale w 2020 juz i tak brakuje biegow.
@@rommel17pl Może nie jest to kozak skrzynia, ale żeby padaka to mocno powiedziane. Sprawnie działa, szczególnie w forku SG - w SF był wyraźnie wolniejszy, ale może to też kwestia olejów była. No ale fakt, że 4 biegi to nie za wiele jednak...
Why the difference yet they are both subarus. Is there a problem with the computer software of one or maybe the wheel sensors aren't working in one? Tell me your diognosis?
@@Xxxoddam 2.0 X nie ma żadnych układów odpowiadających za rozdzielenie momentu pomiędzy lewą a prawą stroną 🙂 W zasadzie to i wynik na dwóch rolkach był oczywisty przed testem 🙂
I know what you mean but actually AWD is 4x4. The only *formal* classification is J1952 by SAE, AWD name is on top of all others. Hill stop feature has nothing to do with this test and I doubt that the car was even equipped with that.
Trzeba sprecyzować, o jakim rozkładzie mowa. Manual ma bazowo 50/50, automat 45/55. Zakres manuala to 80/20-20/80, ale układ ten nie ma możliwości pełnego zblokowania centralnego dyfra. Automat ma taką możliwość, steruje tym komputer, choć - jak widać w teście - na pierwszym biegu dyfer jest zblokowany.
@@emanuelmontes6634 Yes, this one here has 4EAT but it is XT, it also has VTD. I don't what other models with 4EAT have VTD, I suppose the most powerful ones.
The manual drivers jus flooring it not using any finesse like the auto driver you can watch a smooth acceleration the other person either can't smoothly get a manual going or was intentionally skewing results
@Tadeusz Dabrowski ACT-4, zwany też ATS. Ogólnie uznawany za gorszy, bo nie ma centralnego mechanizmu różnicowego, tylna oś napędzana jest sprzęgłem (jak w układach z haldexem). Obecnie Subaru stosuje w zasadzie tylko ten rodzaj (wyjątkiem są modele sportowe). W mojej ocenie - w dzisiejszych czasach układ ten niczym nie ustępuje innym.
ma ktoś taką subarynę w automacie? zastanawiam się nad manual/automat właśnie - bo automaty to podobno 4 biegowe i nieco mułowate a tez chcialbym zeby w zimie dalo sie cos pobawić
now use the same driver in both test because one is clearly not knowing what hes doing
Enlighten us, which is it and what is he doing wrong?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I think they were being sarcastic... a joke. it's kinda funny!
@@q2subzero I get quite a lot of such comments from people that don't understand the test thus I think it was serious...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers He might mean if that the manual used the low gear? Maybe.
@@TheDeathlyBullet He doesn't know what he meant, no response.
I've never seen a car that makes everything as easy as a Subaru XT Automatic, ever!
You must see Tesla on rollers :)
@@Daniel_Kro Tesla + Range Discovery 3 and 4. :)
Lol so easy, it make it look boring
Too bad it's only 4 gears.
@Adam West in this case automatic is better...
07 xt. One of the best and funest mid power cars to drive. So solid. Im at 327000kms and still going strong!
what means "mid power"?
not too slow not too quick.. think stock cars under 35k .. hmmmm?
Best buck:fun ratio out there. I have the 2008 SG9 and a 2015 turbo XT. Both good cars - older is more fun.
Finally!!!! The test the Internet has been asking for!!!
Also the man' can do front wheel burnouts easier than the auto (in light rain)
But in real off-roading, the manual transmission goes better than the automatic transmission. Also the manual transmission is more durable, faster and more economical. But one thing every Subaru fan knows that it does not matter if you have a manual or an automatic both are very cool. This is a car that goes perfectly on off-road, in the city, on the highway and on the track. Subaru has some problems but we still love it❤️❤️❤️❤️
Wow! Big surprise... Never seen such clear difference between the awd system on the manual vs the automatic... With the automatic coming out clearly better! Nice test!
This particular manual is missing VDC, that makes major difference.
I know mine is a manual, but I have Hi-LOW like the old 4x4's I used to drive, which is an advantage, but advantage for the manual, as the clutch is tiny, so LOW range helps. I would be so happy to have the VDC together with the viscus that changes power between front and rear with huge margin. I am 39 and ever since I was a teenager and the early TC/ESP came out, I was wondering why BMW or Benz aren't using the break on the spinning wheel, cars started using it years later. This what VDC does right, it applies breaks on the wheel that lets the power spin out of (it's the early X-Drive system, No?) I've seen a RAV4 doing well with same system as X drive on 2023 model, but the Subaru is utilizing it better due to the symmetrical axels/AWD. I just couldn't spent the 2.5XT money in 2010 and got since Subaru are behind on some other tech, the Automatic was 4 gears, a 4 gear auto on the 150hp Forester would be a suicide, it's slow enough with 5@@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@@Valdismith Benz was one of the first to use brakes (traction control), Bmw also did it before Subaru and before xDrive debuted. And it was quite effective system. I'm not sure what you mean by Rav4 with the same system as xDrive, they are very different. When it comes to Subaru - majority of their new cars are missing center diff, there's clutch pack shifting power from front to back.
This video x manual vs xt auto. An xs manual is better than x
it will be interesting if you compare manual vs automatic 2.5 XT
I own 04 fxt auto and manual both, the manual gets snow tires in the winter, I’ve never needed anything other than all season for the auto, even with vf39 “stage 3” swap (STi stage 2), auto never has any traction issues, manual seems to need to hunt for traction a bit more, which can be fun, but slower around the autox track on mixed tarmac and loose road
@@bmoore8853 the manual ones are awesome. Faster than the auto too.
@@bmoore8853 lucky. I have only got a manual one lol wish i could collect those cars in different trims. The 06' 2.5xt is so fun to slide on snowy roads!
It would probably be a similar result. The issue isn't power, it's how the power gets directed to the wheels with traction. As fun as it is driving with a manual, the automatics have a better version of the Symmetrical AWD system. VTD makes a huge difference. That said, it's a real hoot to drive around with a manual XT though.
Wow really shows how much of a difference the VTD makes! I've got the S-edition with 5eat VTD and VDC makes for a great combination 👌🏼
Which year model. My 2006 JDM is a 4eat (TV version). I also haven't noted any VTD.
piekne auto. chyba nigdy nie przestanie mi się podobać. warczenie silnika jak Pumy i kształty predatora . cud.
Super porównanie MT vs AT. Rozwiałeś moje wątpliwości co do A/T dziękuję :)
Temat jest trochę bardziej skomplikowany niż tylko MT vs AT. Przy skrzyni automatycznej występują dwa rodzaje S-AWD, kluczowe jest także to, czy VDC jest na pokładzie.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers takie pytanko, czy można jakoś wizualnie rozróżnić gdzie jest s-awd a gdzie vdc ?
@@igwarden5404 Nie bardzo rozumiem, o co pytasz, S-AWD jest wszędzie 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersniestety nie znam się na rzeczach
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok to jak można wizualnie sprawdzić czy jest VDC ?
this 2.0x isn't equipped with rear lsd. It would be helpful in some of these test especially when 2 wheels of the same side are on rollers "ice"
It probably is, it's trying to do something...It's just not a strong enough LSD. Most older foresters have LSD in the back
Would have been nice to see a 3/1 test at least on the newer Subaru.
It will be included in one of next videos.
Edit: ua-cam.com/video/hhBL1kLCN9Y/v-deo.html
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Dude great video! I’m new to the Subaru family but even after seeing this I still wish mine was a manual.....love my forester tho
Thanks! Why would you want a manual?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I love the control more, brakes last way longer when you know how to down shift. Sliding around in the snow is more controlled BUT I will say your video showed how much better automatic it is getting out of spots.
@@cliftonsargent1572 I see. The difference here comes mainly from VDC, manual doesn't have it.
Same here. Had a manual XT 2.5, blew the engine a couple of times and I now own an auto XT 2.0(older, non VDC sadly). Auto is way better off-road but I miss the control of the manual a lot when driving on road...
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Agree 😁 Thanks!
Automat jaki kocur, WOW! :O
Manual ma silnik 2.0 i nie ma blokady tylnego mostu, jak by był w wersji turbo to radził by sobie tak samo jak automat
Not new to me, my impreza 11 model has sports shifter as well. Tiptronic
Perfect comparison! Could you make it similar more often? Also explanation of system would be recommend.
I'll do my best 🙂
The XT has a rear LSD, hence the difference when one rear wheel is on rollers
The difference comes mainly from VDC on board.
No it doesnt. Main difference is vlsd in rear diff.
@@xxaba1989xx Main difference comes from VDC. Rear vlsd helps of course but not that much in this case.
Cześć 😀 Generalnie bardzo się cieszę, że jest taki polski kanał. Napędy AWD, 4WD i 4×4 To temat rzeka i niegdyś zmuszony byłem oglądać zagranicznego Yt żeby się czegoś dowiedzieć A teraz jak widać dużo jest właśnie osób z zagranicy na Twoim kanale. Ogółem bardzo dobra robota i profesjonalne wykonanie ;)
Jakbyś mógł powiedzieć jak plasujesz napęd S-AWD od Subaru? W sensie jak dobry on jest i gdzie umiejscowilbys go w rankingu najlepszych napędów? 😀
Cześć, dzięki :)
Co do S-AWD - w zasadzie niezależnie, który rodzaj rozpatrzymy - jest to najwyższa półka. Oczywiście Subaru nie jest samo na tej półce, ale te napędy nie zawodzą.
No to teraz będzie trzeba kupić tylna szperę do mojego sg
those are best videos!!!
and those forester are so peep awesome and they look so good
Thank you! More videos with Subaru coming soon, including live OBD data during the test so we can see what awd system is doing.
There are two types of AT on subaru forester - TV and TZ. They have different torque distribution by axle
And TG also known as 5eat.
@@ValtersPelns 5 gear on SG9?
I have a 2006 SG9 FXT with 4EAT. I has LSD in the rear axle.
just bought an 04 xs, great comparison video
I kind of accidentally bought one of those 2.5 xt five speed turns out they worth a lot.
The XT Sports are worth a lot in both AT and MT.
FYI the AT XT has the LSD dif, vs the manual has the open. Not apples to apples. The only good comparison is the front or rear only. Good representation of front vs rear.
LSD isn't doing much here. VDC is much more important.
Most Foresters have the LSD(auto and manual). It's just weak, it doesnt transfer much power to the other wheel.
100 likes) better and better! Keep going! But, where is 1 wheel on the road?!?!))))
Thanks 🙂 Test on three rollers coming soon!
that is kings level
Cześć, rozważam zakup Forestera SG, interesuje mnie tylko 2.0 manual z reduktorem. Czy w tej wersji jest tylko jedna wersja napędu? Czy napędy różnią się między przedliftem a poliftem? Czy SG manual ma napęd realizowany tak samo jak stary SF manual? Z góry dzięki za odpwiedź i pozdrawiam :)
Cześć, szczegółów nie znam, natomiast wszystkie wspomniane wersje na pewno mają centralny dyfer ze sprzęgłem wisko.
Interesting - I’ve 2011 Forester S Auto and a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel auto with Quadra-Drive II. If there’s only traction on a single wheel, 100% of power goes to it. Incredible ability on mixed surfaces AT tyres. Unfortunately the car is now dying !
The Forester much much better handling of course, but I’m going to miss that ultimate Jeep “get out of jail capability”!!
I’m now looking for a cheap 5sp Outback or Forester for my son to learn on, and that will be a suitable second car for the family.
Forester S Auto probably has the VTD awd system, great solution with slightly rwd balance. Manual Forester or Outback has VCD awd system, less advanced than VTD but still very capable.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers do you reckon any >10 yo Subaru matches that Jeep “one wheel” capability?
@@penponds Well, the 2.5 XT which you can see here passed all tests.
If in manual one you'd apply a bit of (hand)brake in side and cross cases, it would go.
We tried that in Rav4 with similar awd system, didn't help: ua-cam.com/video/AP98iNAbuVI/v-deo.html
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers These manual foresters have viscous coupling in center and sometimes rear diff - does Rav4 too?
@@ach.1980 Both tested cars had front and rear open diffs, both had center differential with viscous coupling.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ok. My 2.0X and 2.5XT both had viscous coupling in rear diff also.
Subaru for me next.
Hope you are aware that turbo version have vlsd in rear diff that n/a forester doesnt have.
@@xxaba1989xx R160 27020AA050
So basically the automatic is great for the librarian that needs to get to her job and not get stuck. Meanwhile everybody that has two nuts between their legs drive the stick because it is way more fun to drift all wheel drive on snow.
you cant compete with VDC , manual could be better im mud maybe ... but VDC just is another level for braking each wheel as it needs.
Why do you think, that manual could be better in mud?
@@anonim1133 sure it depends just manual could use full throtle where VDC can just limit your throtlle because it would think its too much wheel spin. TC off helps some sure.
@@MrScalman Sure, VDC limits throttle a lot, but there is a button to disable it. So... Lock 1st gear, disable VDC, and the world is yours :P
@@anonim1133 tc off not vdc off. It still uses brake on wheels just wont cut the power. Abs still works too.
Would you say getting a model with VDC is worth it? I’m wanting an 08 forester
How does it suppose to fairly compare 2 trans if one got advantage of a lot more torque to work with?
This is about power distribution, not about acceleration or towing a trailer.
Hej co blokuje przednie koło na obrazku 1:44 skoro ESP jest wyłączone, czyli chyba kontrola trakcji także?
Hej, wyłączone jest ESP, ale kontrola trakcji pozostaje aktywna. Tak jest w większości samochodów, TC w ogóle nie można wyłączyć.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers zaraz 😁 na odwrót to tak, ale jak jest wyłącznik, to z reguły kontroli trakcji po to, by np jechać po śniegu, piachu itp. Jeśli czegoś wyłączyć nie można to prędzej właśnie ESP niż TC 🤔
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers natomiast to co napisałem cholernie kłóci się z tym co widzę na Twoich filmach, gdzie przy wyłączonym ESP auta mają lepszą trakcję 🤨 co tez jest delikatnie nielogiczne
@@marcinobodzinski52 No właśnie nie 🙂 W większości przypadków jest tak, że po wyłączeniu ESP komputer nie ingeruje w obroty silnika, ale układ hamulcowy cały czas pozostaje aktywny.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers no dobra, większość to pojęcie dość względne. Ale rozbiłeś mi teraz rzeczywistość i muszę się upić 🤣
So should it be better to get an XT for daily and over landing rather than a basic model?
XT is nice but it can have engine issues...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers as all can, you personally is VCD worth it?
@@mercenary1485 There are much more reliable engines than 2.5T. But in this case it's not only the matter of VDC but also VTD, which manual doesn't have. In terms of performance - definitely worth it. In terms of maintenance costs - definitely not.
Edit: don't confuse the names VCD and VDC, these are different things.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah my bad on the typo, thank you by the way, I’ll probably get the XT Limited just for the added boost of performance off road and on
Great video! However, is this about the 2.0 vs. 2.5 engine or about Manual vs. Automatic versions?
Thanks! This is about two different AWD systems - Viscous Center Differential vs Variable Torque Distribution.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for the prompt attention. Does that mean only the 2.5 version counts with VCD feature, then?
@@ricardolb VCD is combined with manual transmission. Automatics have VTD or ACT-4, depends on version.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers viscous center diferential is also the simetrical awd?
@@dimosgeorgiou4503 Yes, Subaru cars with manual transmissions have S-AWD viscous center differential.
2.0 ma otwarty tylny most. LSD było w wersjach turbo, manual i automat
Bardzo dobrze wypadł automat i to mnie cieszy. To jest klasyczny hydrokinetyk ?
Tak jest, cztero-biegowy tylko, niestety.
@@KrzysiekNie lepszy taki niż cvt
cinek505241513 w zyciu nie. Czterobiegowy automat to padaka, mialem w Forku i Outbacku. Cieszylby moze w 1999. 5 biegowy 5EAT jest duzo szybszy i lepszy, ale w 2020 juz i tak brakuje biegow.
@@rommel17pl Może nie jest to kozak skrzynia, ale żeby padaka to mocno powiedziane. Sprawnie działa, szczególnie w forku SG - w SF był wyraźnie wolniejszy, ale może to też kwestia olejów była. No ale fakt, że 4 biegi to nie za wiele jednak...
@@anonim1133 padaka przy 5EAT. 5EAT dopiero sprawnie dziala...
Rozumiem blokady międzyosiowe, ale co odpowiada za działanie lewej strony przy teście na dwóch rolkach, mimo wyłączenia kontroli trakcji?
Cały czas kontrola trakcji, z reguły nie da się jej wyłączyć.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers rozumiem,... po prostu nie da się jej w 100% wyłączyć.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers model z manualem nie ma kontroli trakcji?
@@adamjanisiak3119 Nie ma...
Zawsze byłem za automatami 😉, dzięki i pozdrawiam.
Why the difference yet they are both subarus. Is there a problem with the computer software of one or maybe the wheel sensors aren't working in one?
Tell me your diognosis?
2.0 X is not equipped with VDC. No electronics for awd system.
Both are basic AWD system with almost no electronics. The olsy difference is that the XT has rear lsd
@@headless7345 No, AWD system of XT is almost entirely electronically controlled (center diff with clutch-pack + VDC).
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers is that only the automatic or the manual is the same?
@@headless7345 Manuals have VCD system. Automatics may have ACT-4 system or VTD system.
This comparison is not indicative! Forester's turbo version has LSD rear diff - you should compare either both XT(Turbo) or X(NA) versions.
LSD doesn't make any difference here. VDC does.
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Co to za kolor lakieru na tym Forku auto szarym? Piękny!
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dlaczego jest jakaś moda na przekręcanie kolejności oznaczeń jeśli chodzi o automat?
od zawsze było i jest tylko i wyłącznie PRND a nie PRDN
Grafika poglądowa.
This made me sad as a 2.0x owner
Maybe 2.5 have better condition visco clutch.
2.5 doesn't have visco. It has electronically controlled center diff.
@D F Yes, that's exactly what we show in the test.
@D F There is no official information about it - could find it in car manual, or internet. So it is no wonder, that not everybody knows it ;-)
Wow like subaru!
Pamiętajcie że subaru w wersjach turbo w tylnym dyferencjale jest LSD
A gdzie 3 rolki? :)
pajakbartek właśnie miałem o to zapytać 😊
2.0 X nie podchodził do trzech rolek z oczywistych względów. 2.5 XT na trzech rolkach będzie w kolejnym teście 🙂
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel prośba o rozwiniecie tych „oczywistych względów” 😊
@@Xxxoddam 2.0 X nie ma żadnych układów odpowiadających za rozdzielenie momentu pomiędzy lewą a prawą stroną 🙂 W zasadzie to i wynik na dwóch rolkach był oczywisty przed testem 🙂
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel dziękuje
AWD IS NOT 4X4 LOL but to the point .. disable the hill stop feature on the manual and test it again
I know what you mean but actually AWD is 4x4. The only *formal* classification is J1952 by SAE, AWD name is on top of all others.
Hill stop feature has nothing to do with this test and I doubt that the car was even equipped with that.
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Есть subaru outback bp 3.0?
Unfortunately no.
So is the mt as bad as you show? If so, it's no better than the CRV, and the crv is a better car.
It's not the point of MT but a lack of VDC on board. MT equipped with VDC would perform different.
I'd like to see a 14-18 fxt
You can find it on my channel!
The difference between them two is that automatic is always engaged when you do eny gear cause automatics always go forward when you release breaks
Its VDT vs VCD test manuał doesn't have VDT
Jak sprawdzić czy mój Forester posiada VTD z VDC ?
Przetestować na rolkach 😉 Jaka dokładnie wersja i skrzynia?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers SG przedlift 2004 AT 2,5 wolnossak USA
@@GLOVVACZ A ma przycisk VDC/ESP? Cztery biegi? Wolnossak to raczej ACT-4.
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel 4EAT, ale chyba tylko XT mial VDC.
@@rommel17pl Pytanie było o awd. Przy 2.5 wolnossącym ze skrzynią 4EAT obstawiam ACT-4, nie VTD.
Ok. Jeden ma system, drugi go nie ma... zadne zaskoczenie 🤔
Stały napęd robi robote 50x50
Ale tylko na 1 biegu - a i to w sumie chyba nigdzie oficjalnej informacji czy spina 50/50 czy jak.
Trzeba sprecyzować, o jakim rozkładzie mowa. Manual ma bazowo 50/50, automat 45/55. Zakres manuala to 80/20-20/80, ale układ ten nie ma możliwości pełnego zblokowania centralnego dyfra. Automat ma taką możliwość, steruje tym komputer, choć - jak widać w teście - na pierwszym biegu dyfer jest zblokowany.
Not quiet acurate . The manual has a stupid hillstop feature. On the front left tire the break would never disengage unless the tire turn
Hill stop feature has nothing to do with this test and I doubt that the car was even equipped with that.
Xt is gonna win it has turbo plus it’s a newer model
It is the same generation. XT wins cause it has VDC, turbo isn't an important factor.
!!!!!!...what´s this VTD thing?...
Variable Torque Distribution. Planetary gear center differential with clutch-pack.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thank you...what other subarus have that?
@@emanuelmontes6634 All with 5EAT transmission. And WRX with CVT.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers but forester have 4AT right?...
@@emanuelmontes6634 Yes, this one here has 4EAT but it is XT, it also has VTD. I don't what other models with 4EAT have VTD, I suppose the most powerful ones.
A ja zapytam co to za piękne felgi w automacie
Dopytamy właściciela :)
Też chętnie się dowiem, ciekawi mnie ten kolor bo ładnie się prezentuje.
The manual drivers jus flooring it not using any finesse like the auto driver you can watch a smooth acceleration the other person either can't smoothly get a manual going or was intentionally skewing results
There is no flooring, max speed ~25 km/h. Manual doesn't have VDC, that should explain your doubts.
I still prefer manual lol 😂
A „wszyscy” zawsze mówili, że automat ma gorsze 4wd :) psikus
Są dwa rodzaje S-AWD dla automatów, więc pewnie mówili o tym drugim 😉
@Tadeusz Dabrowski ACT-4, zwany też ATS. Ogólnie uznawany za gorszy, bo nie ma centralnego mechanizmu różnicowego, tylna oś napędzana jest sprzęgłem (jak w układach z haldexem). Obecnie Subaru stosuje w zasadzie tylko ten rodzaj (wyjątkiem są modele sportowe). W mojej ocenie - w dzisiejszych czasach układ ten niczym nie ustępuje innym.
drag race already...
Manual no LSD dyfer
Ahh x manual vs xt auto.. yeah x is suck...go get an xs manual is better x
Manual driver does not drive manual hahah
What do you mean?
ma ktoś taką subarynę w automacie? zastanawiam się nad manual/automat właśnie - bo automaty to podobno 4 biegowe i nieco mułowate a tez chcialbym zeby w zimie dalo sie cos pobawić
which ones which lol
Everything is on the screen.