String Showdown: Elixir 80/20s VS Elixir Phosphor Bronze Acoustic Guitar Strings
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
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0:00 Intro
1:52 Strumming
2:47 Arpeggio
3:25 Funk Jam
4:54 Fingerpicking
Hey Whats up everyone this is Jeremy and Welcome to the string showdown where today the Elixir 80/20s will be pitted against the Elixir Phosphor Bronze Acoustic guitar strings. Both sets will be Custom Lights for their gauge sizes and Ill be using my Taylor 812ce for both sets. Let me clarify what the name of these guitar strings actually mean because it was something I myself had to research.
The 80/20 bronze name is a bit misleading because these strings, which are 80% copper and 20% zinc, are in actually brass. Brass by definition is a mixture of copper and zinc.
Bronze is an alloy also containing copper, but instead of zinc it has tin.. Elixir Phosphor Bronze acoustic guitar strings are a copper alloy with roughly 8% tin and a small amount of Phosphorous.
The wire that lives underneath the wrap wire is made of steel in case you were wondering.
These strings are coated with Elixir Nano web material. Now, These are different from polyweb material because nano webbing is thinner. This coating prevents the squeaks when sliding up and down the string. And it just generally makes the stings feel slick.
I mic’d all of these examples the exact same way with a stereo spaced pair of mictek c5 cardioid condenser mics pointed at the 12th fret of the guitar. I did not add any EQ or compression but I did adjust the volume of each clip so that they are close to volume relative to each other. As we know, louder things sound better so I didn’t want that to influence the actual characteristics of the timbre of the strings if I had one clip slightly louder than the other.
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80/20: 1:52 2:47 3:25 4:54
Phosphor Bronze: 2:19 3:05 4:08 5:20
Awesome! Quick links! I think Im going to do some separate videos that just have one type of string but all cut together. That way, you can mix and match whatever strings you want to A/B in separate browser tabs.
Thank you
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It's subtle but the phosphor bronze has a tonal quality that sounds "better/fuller" to me.
toneman335 sounds more natural and vintage almost.
Depends what you'd be playing really. Frustratingly I prefer the fullness of the chords on phosphor but the clarity when picking on the 80/20. I write a lot of songs that mix finger picking and chords so it's a tough choice!
so far the best reviewer on UA-cam, straight to the point and cover everything. Thank you so much, I hope we will see more video from you
You rock!
Wow! this is great! I was looking to compare these two elixer string types for my Taylor 816ce DLX. Your comprehensive explanation and demo are perfect. Very professional and great playing as well. Bravo!
Thanks!
J.Travlos I just subscribed, your welcome.
Man I wish you have much more subscribers cause you made a great job here. It’s a good day to start. A specially when the Guitar center has been reopened for a curb pick up. Cheers
Thanks! Spread the Word!
Thanks for taking the time to make this, you did a great job and made a great comparison. I would simply suggest going up a gauge to at least 12's, which are factory spec'd for your guitar. The thin custom lights are hurting the tone of both sets, and there is a fair amount of fret rattle going on there.
I actually agree but I just like the feel of the custom lights. I know its only a slight difference but the tone tradeoff is worth it for me especially as mainly a bedroom player now. At this point, I am just trying to limit and obstacle between me picking up the guitar. thanks for watching! -Jeremy
Your channel is underrated! Such a quality video here, keep it up!
Thanks, hitting like and subscribing is the best way to help the channel. Thanks for checking out the video!
Buen video, excelente review, cool review. I usually use the phosphor bronze but I'm going to try the 80/20 next week. Thanks for the video. Cheers from Venezuela.
Thanks! And thanks for subscribing!
I prefered the clarity of the 80/20s, but you're right about it sounding "stringier" and "less woody" than the phosphor bronze. To my ear the phosphor bronze strings almost gave your guitar a mahogany- like tone; woodier and drier.
Great video. Good info and productions values.
RoloTomasie yea totally, I like the earthy tone more.
Hihi so I am using a mahogany top .So which is better recommendation ya ?
My preference is much bass .thanks for Ur reply
Superb demo! Thank you.
Thanks!
i like the phosphor strings sounds, it feels more woody sound. btw thanks for making these comparison video🙏❤️ i will subscribe 👍
Thanks!
Thanks for this video. I’ve just ordered a set of 80/20’s to try out on my guitar as I’ve always used 92/8’s. Definitely sounds like theirs more harmonic content with the PB, almost more like a 12 string compared to Bronze
Nice, let us know what you think.
Liking the 80/20s ditto on upping the gauge!
Very helpful! Thanks a lot.
Thanks for review!
glad you liked it!
From experience, phosphor bronze strings will often have that woody sound as in this demo. But on other guitars they may just sound thin.
Great Video...well done and thank you.
You're welcome!
Great video dude!
Thanks for checking it out! I have some other good Elixir ones too.
I have used both for years, and choose depending on the guitar in question.
For instance, Martin naturally has a pronounced low-tone while Taylor has a brighter high-end. The person could either get strings to brighten the low of a Martin or make the low-end more pronounced. Likewise with Taylor; make it even brighter, or use a string to bring out the low-end more.
It really just depends on your taste and the style of music you play.
I play a lot of rythym and have a Taylor. I like a ballance so I use the 80/20 to bring out the low-end more while having the natural highs of the Taylor.
80/20 for the win easily!!!! Sounds more natural.
Tried both. My guitar is a 2008 Martin D-28 Marquis (EIRW w/Adirondack Top). I prefer the unique bass whump a Martin has compared to other dreads. The Elixir Phosphor Bronze Nanoweb 13-56 are the best sounding strings I've ever put on my guitar... to me. Much prefer the full sounding tone of the Phosphor Bronze over the brighter 80/20 strings. Each to their own. And as to the D-28 Marquis... WOW, what a great tone it has. I nearly went with a D-28 Authentic, but I wanted the adjustable truss rod, wider string spacing at the saddle (2 5/16") and the Authentic was a good deal more expensive. The bridge on my guitar was coming loose. Had it taken off and re-glued with hide glue. It seems to have made the tone even better, but that could well be just wishful thinking. The neck on the Marquis is a bit chunky but I really love it now. Just a truly great guitar, but now discontinued by Martin. The only other dread I'd consider is a Mandolin Brothers Special-ordered Martin D-41 Custom Turbo (1/4" scalloped bracing). Very hard to find.
I really like the heavier gauges too. Its just...my fingers dont...
Nice video! Thank you for sharing. 🙂 what type of the elixir strings would you recoomend for my APX 500II Acoustic Yamaha? Would it be Bronze 80/20? I cannot jump to conclusions yet.. your opinion would be pretty much appreciated 😊
Generally speaking I really like phosphor bronze so maybe give those a try first?
Hey Bro....i am confused.... i want a Crunchy sound in strumming ...it really close...do you help me out...which one i go for?
Personally liked the phosphors on everything except the fingersyle. Excellent playing!
I use 80/20 the sounds soo loud and Bright but i prefer to phosphor
This is just what I was looking for!
Thanks for watching!
Just an amazing explanation.
Thanks!
appreciate this review. really. wish there was more alike
Thanks. I have some more videos coming out soon! Let me know if you want any specific strings compared/ reviewed. Id love to get some more input on what you guys want. Thanks Again!
Hi, great video ! Do both set of strings have the same colour? So I can check if I’ve been given a fake pack of elixirs ? Thanks
the 80/20s I think are more yellow and the phosphor bronze are more brown/copper if I remember correctly.
I like this showdown a lot. It is straight forward and informative.
Is it me or the phosphor bronze strings hard to play? And are you using a hard or light strings? I am a beginner😶
Hey, I made this video to touch on the playability of the strings. These strings are called "custom light" so they are fairly thin strings therefore the tension feels lighter. They are easier to play than most. But, if you wanted some really easy strings to play you can get them in "extra light"
This video explains all that.
ua-cam.com/video/hPv84gMicEw/v-deo.html
With that being said both of the strings in the showdown are "custom lights" so they are equal in playability. But, sometimes I dont play one example as well as the other so it gives the impression that one might be easier :)
Hope that helps!
@@JTravlos Thank you for your reply
I have to use Elixers because uncoated strings will go dull within hours for me. I've tried both of these and the 80/20 nanoweb 11-52 sound best on my Seagull S6. The phosphorus sound ok but I prefer the slightly scooped sound of the 80/20s. Plus they seem to have slightly less tension.
Nice! Also I really like that gauge size.
I usually just bounce between the two tbh. I mean, the phosphor strings are better for strumming and the 80/20's for picking, but both sound good on my Washburn, it's just that the 80/20's have a much lighter and "stringier" feel whereas the Phosphors have a deeper, richer tone to them.
Nice, which Washburn do you have? I just bought a Washburn wcg55ce to replace my 12 year old Martin DCX1E (and I've wanted an all Koa guitar for quite some time). It has EB Earthwood 80/20s I had the shop throw on it (for free since the original D'addario strings were pretty rusty). Not completely sold on the sound (though it sounds really good) so I bought some Elixir Phosphor Bronze strings to have them replaced with when I bring it in for a tune up service and will put the EBs on the Martin since it needs new strings at this point anyway. Fingers crossed!
I have two Washburn D10SCE one made in China, the other in Indonesia (looks the same everywhere except the sides and back are a bit darker in color on the China model, i believe they have the same Mahogany). I've put same gauge strings on both - China had the nanoweb 80/20, Indonesia had the PB. The 80/20 had more bass and warmer than the PB. The PB was brighter and I've noticed softer volume when played. Both were compared playing straight (not connected to amp).
I love the riffs and been trying to play them... with mixed results as cant tell the fingerings .. would love a little video showing these cool things if possible?.... but if not...whats the fretting of the chord @2:06... im getting close with an Am barre chord at the 7th....im guessing its 0-7-9-8-0-9?
try 0-7-9-0-8-0. basically an Em with a bunch of open strings.
My 2 cents: compare 2:58 with 3:18 and pay attention to the E-1st string. 80/20 is fully defined whereas phosphor bronze shakes like if it's trying to find the right tone. For tecnhincal stuff my advice is 80/20 but for ambiance the phosphor bronze. The "ideal" probably would be to pick the 3 highest frequency strings from the 80/20 and the 3 lowest frequency strings from the phosphor bronze.
Very interesting insight.
yes 80/20 more accurate!
This comment has very good attention to detail. I was thinking this too. I actually like to 80/20 for arpeggio and single notes (finger style) but overall rhythm and strumming sound great in the phosphor bronze
very helpful, Thank you..
You are welcome! Subscribe if you haven't already. I have some more string demos coming down the pipeline soon.
what type & gauge would you recommend for a basic beginner's yamaha fd01s? ive just been using its default strings ("light" according to the seller but "medium" according the reviewers) for the year that i've been playing. i play fingerstyle with a few percussive elements most often. thanks :) super helpful video by the way!
To me, it's more of what feels the best and less about tone. I like light strings. Actually elixir has a gauge called "custom light" which I like a lot. They are really easy to play and I like the tone of them. But it would be good for you to experiment with different sizes to see which ones are best for you.
@@JTravlos thank you so much for your reply, that helps a lot - I’ll look into the custom light ones. one last quick question - do they sound significantly quieter than the light and medium strings?
@@sanjanab21 I think the difference between volume is pretty minimal. That being said, I think the difference between the lightest gauge and the thickest gauge is noticeable. But, without a direct comparison I dont think you will be missing out.
@@JTravlos ohh ok thanks so much! that’s super helpful
@@sanjanab21 Glad to help. I made this video a while ago which may be helpful too. ua-cam.com/video/hPv84gMicEw/v-deo.html
I prefer the 80/20s. Those sound a little warmer. Great comparison. I've been using Elixirs for well over a decade now.
I still use elixirs but I have been liking Daddario Xs' a lot too.
Thanx for the vid! I have a yamaha cpx900. I bought it in last year & dint change the strings yet. It has a maple top.I dont have much knowledge about strings & as i see your vid, I think it might fit Phospor strings cuz I focus more on fingerstyle. Please give your thoughts! ; )
I generally like phosphor bronze better. So maybe go that route and see if you like them. Ultimately it would be good to try both out I think.
It would be great if you added a comparison of both strings after let’s say 50 hours of playing, how much they differ from the brand new ones, cheers
80/20s have a volume more equally balanced across all strings......the bronze ones make their 2 thicker strings louder and more bassy.....other than that they are both good.........for classical, flamenco bronze....for else 80/20s......then again, all guitars are not made equal.
Thank you very much!
I use the PB on almost everything. I will say that it brightens up your guitar. If you have a BRIGHT guitar, dont use these. It will make it too bright.
I know what i would like on my guitars ........... your playing skills!!
thanks!
Which do you feel will pair better with a Martin 000RS1 full sapele guitar? The 80/20’s or PB’s? Appreciate your response :)
Total opinion here...But I like the PBs better.
Thanks for the video, so do you have a preference? And what kind of pick were you using?
It was a medium fender perloid pick. I prefer the Phosphor Bronze on my guitar. However I have a GS mini (mohogany) that I think the 80/20s sound better on.
@@JTravlos thank you!
There is absolutely no substitute for trying each of them both on the exact guitar in question.I have 2 Yamaha Fg830's...same colour...same specs...same year of manufacture and one sounds awesome with 80/20 the other like total garbage.I put Phosphor Bronze on the garbage one and it's my favourite guitar by far now.Assuming both would benefit from the Phosphor Bronze change I eventually changed the 80/20 on the other Fg to Phosphor B...lifeless and shit.The moral here is you must see what works best with each instrument regardless of what you THINK will work.Test it with cheap Martin strings of each flavour then buy the Elixir when you know.
This might be my favorite comment of all time. Sums up everything so well. A lot of people ask me what strings to buy and I always say try both out. Im just some dude who made a video lol. Nice insight Rob, appreciate it.
I ve got yamaha fg800..got custom light phosphor bronze on now sounds kinda fantastic..i had i think 12 gauge of somekind..lost a lot of volume after change..very slick playing but maybe should try 12 gauge again but 80/20...
I have a Taylor 12 string. I use the 80/20's. I like the phospor bronzes better from your example. Do you think that translates to my 12-string?
I speak from not a ton of experience with 12 strings but what I do know is that they are really jangly. I think that is part of the appeal of them. So if you think your 12 string is excessively bright then maybe try out the phosphor bronze. It might make it sound a little bit warmer. I like a bright guitar but even the 80/20s were a little too bright for me and I bet I would think the same for a 12 string.
Hey J, what size pick did you use to strum the phosphor bronze? What gauge pick?
I use fender perloid mediums for all examples with a pick.
Does this mean the harmonics will be brighter and more loud in 80/20 because when I have tried the phosphor, I cannot really hear the harmonics
Oh, good question. I actually dont know.
But about the volume adjustment... what strings sound more loud? If it happens. Or the volume adjustments it's just because of record differences?
This is a good question. The 80/20s recorded very bright an it had a lot of transients/ spikes in the audio wave form. Those spikes in the waveform are very loud but they are so fast we dont really perceive them as general loudness. This was most apparent in the funk example. The 80/20s accentuated the pick attack moreso than the actual chords of the song. When I normalize the audio to 0db, only the spikes in the audio get raised but most of the time the 80/20s wouldnt go any higher because the spikes in the audio waveform were already as loud as my software would let it before it distorted or clipped. The phosphor bronze didnt have these spikes so when I normalized that audio to 0db more of the "general" volume was raised. So in short, the 80/20s were technically louder but the phosphor bronze might have sounded louder/fuller. It all sounds kind of complicated but maybe check out some youtube videos on normalization. It is much easier to understand visually.
Which 1 is better for fingerstyle and which 1 is for rhythms, and which will last longer ?
I really appreciate this demo! I think a more fair comparison would be a dreadnought than a concert/parlor guitar. The mids are definitely more prominent with less bottom end on your instrument. The concert/rosewood body is probably far less flattering to demonstrate 80/20 bronze. The boom of 80/20 is more apparent on a dreadnought body.
totally
I have Cort L100F Ns , please suggest me 🙏
I really confused about what string brand and gauge to get the best sound.
Elixir is considered a high end brand. You can find cheaper strings on the market. But, I really like them and I really like Elixir phosphor bronze in custom light gauge size. Maybe start there?
Hi, I can’t understand which strings are best for a bright guitar. Bronze or phosphor bronze?
And also elixir or dadario xs for a bright guitar?
phosphor bronze of any brand will tame an already bright guitar.
Both are great!
They really are, I don't think you can go wrong with either.
The fret board on that guitar is stunning.
There is an interesting story...So you normally see all black fretboards on acoustic guitars right? Well, that wood is called ebony but it when you chop down an ebony tree it doesnt always provide all black wood. Most of the time the wood has streaks in it like mine. It used to be considered inferior but public perception is changing and it is way more sustainable. Before, if the wood was streaked the entire tree would just be destroyed because it didnt have the desired look. When you see this fretboard it is a great thing for sustainability. Kudos to Bob Taylor at taylor guitars.
I also admire all the different granings and colors- just add more character. Reminds me of a nice Koa guitars
Which do you think is best for finger picking? I mostly play classical guitar, so I'm basically finger picking all the time.
Classical guitars generally have lighter tension strings than steel string guitars. That being said I would either go with "light" or "custom lights". My favorite are "custom lights" becasue they are very easy to play and not as "smacky" as extra lights. I think both would serve you well but maybe buy a set of "custom lights" and if you wanted a tad bit more bottom end you could go up to "lights".
Check out my other video that will be very applicable your question :ua-cam.com/video/hPv84gMicEw/v-deo.html
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Hi Jeremy, I'm Felipe and I'm from Chile, a question and I'd really appreciate your answer, which of the two is softer and more elastic, elixir bronze or elixir phosphor bronze?
That is a great question that I dont really know if I have a good answer to. When comparing both of them none appeared to have less tension than the other. In other words, they felt about the same. Both sets were Custom Lights in gauge size. I like the sound of phosphor bronze better so maybe start with those and just experiment with different gauge sizes (extra light, custom light, light, Hd Light, Mediums). I tend to go with custom lights because I dont like a lot of tension on the strings. I remember extra light being too bright. Hopefully that helps a little but maybe you will find a better answer on the internet somewhere. Let me know what you find.
Yes, I am testing the elixir bronze 0.11 but when I try the elxir phosphor bronze 0.11 I will let you know what I find. In general, phosphor bronze is a bit softer than bronze. Thanks for everything.
@@felipe-bo3sk Interesting, maybe the metals are a bit softer.
You still have to think that having a Taylor 812ce almost any set of strings will feel soft 👌😊
@@felipe-bo3sk It helps!
I always use Elixir 12' (light) 80/20.. but I constantly hear so many people say they like the PB better..
I've always played Gibson acoustics and own several. I love the Elixirs on those guitars.. But I just bought a Martin D-35.. ( got it 3 days ago) I'm wondering which Elixirs will sound better on my Martin. 80/20 or PB..
I did just order some of the Martin Titanium core strings yesterday.. and even though I paid $40 for them I'm not sure I'm going to use them. I've heard both good and bad things about the Martin Titanium core strings...
I really like the phosphor bronze better. But, that being said I own a taylor 812 and I think the instrument would be on the bright side. So I think the phosphor bronze sort of evens it out. Martins tend to be warmer and mellower to my ears (generally) so maybe 80/20s might suit it better. However, I have heard some bright martins. Hmm, I aways say to just experiment because every guitar takes strings differently. But If you do experiment come back and let us know. I would really like your input and I am sure the community would. Best of Luck!
@@JTravlos awesome man thank you for your response and your opinion!! I'm currently watching your other video on Elixir strings!! I guess the next thing I need to figure out, is if I should use Mediums on my D-35.. haha.. seems like a lot of people like Mediums on Martin's. Hey thanks again!! 🤘
80 20 for picking and slaping. bronze for strumming
That could be a good rule of thumb.
Aw hell naw! Bronze has adip in the mids - 80/20 all the way.
@@Nullllus nah, Im a singer so i will be strumming 80 percent of the time. I think the phosphor helps the sound man better . In strumming, 80/20 seems to get lost with electric lead and keyboard player. On another note, Makes my 400 dollar guitar sound like a taylor... if you like that gibson acoustic sound then go with the 80/20. I am more of a taylor type.
@@Nullllus pb has a dip in the mids not the 80 20 lol
I have the Ibanez AW54OPN. I currently have super light 80/20 but I'm thinking about switching to phosphor bronze. Do you think they would fit on a guitar like this?
Totally, maybe go with "custom lights" as your first set.
@@JTravlos Would you recommend the bronze over the 80/20?
@@kfirlevy7635 yes, I think they sound much better.
80/20 for sure!
For cord GA MEDX-M OP, please recomend which elixer type is used.. 0.11 phospor bronze or 0.10 phosphor bronze? Or use 80/20?
OK, eventually you will want to try different strings but let me give you a recommendation for the strings I like. I like the tone of phosphor bronze. I have tried almost every string on the market and Elixir has the best feeling and sounding phosphor bronze. As for gauge size I like "custom lights". They are really easy to play and I would recommend these for any beginner. They are slightly larger in guage than extra lights but lighter than lights on some of the strings. So let me sum this up. "Elixir Phosphor Bronze custom lights." But, after you start with them maybe try some other gauges out later on.
@@JTravlos thank you so mush..your explain is very good..i will try with your recomend..
Thank you for great comparison. May I ask you, which one you like and why?
I tend to like the phosphor bronze better. It has a warmer sound. I always thought 80/20s sound to "metalic". Maybe that means too bright for my ears. My guitar is kind of bright anyways so I think the Phosphor Bronze tame it better.
@@JTravlos thank you
What i found most interesting is in the comments below there is absolutely NO consensus. And it's not like "some people prefer one, and other people prefer the other..." Everyone is saying they prefer one or the other for the SAME reasons! In other words, no one can tell the difference. It's really amazing. For some, one is too bright. For others, the other one is too bright. It's pretty fascinating. Personally I really couldnt tell the difference until you started strumming. I'm a PB player pretty much 100% of the time. About to put my first set of 80/20s on a guitar because this one sounds much more dull and flat than I expected.... So we'll see.... Great video btw. Thanks for posting.
Thanks! Yea, I always think the main take a way is to just try them all out yourselves. A lot of people look to these videos to save them money but since this is such a subjective thing I say just try as many different types of strings as possible. Thanks for watching!
Phosphor bronze sounds more buzzy than 80/20. Coated 80/20 should help out with the downside of the short longevity right? ....also another comparison could be nickel strings like heavier gauge electric guitar strings...some people have actually had sucess with that to the point I might try a electric set of 12s or 13s. I like the feel of electric strings over accoustic.
Phosphor: Strumming, rhythm, solo artist advantage
80/20: Percussive, fingerstyle, plucking advantage
What do you think wich size is the best for fingerstyle?
@@Wazzup1458 10
can a gauge 12 ,80/20 bronze be good for Fingerstyle ???
@@kenjisan5520 Yes bro, but I prefer phosphor bronze because it sounds more natural than 80/20 bronze
@@Wazzup1458 For me, gauge 10 is the best for fingerstyle. But your volume is not that loud. Currently I tried a gauge 12 phosphor bronze elixir and I loved it.
I can see why people don't like the phosphor strings, but to me, they seem to include more tone in each strum. It has a kind of sophisticated depth to the sound. A little bit more raw than the 80/20s.
Agreed. I know it's weird to say but with phosphor I hear more wood and with 80/20 I hear more string. That make sense?
So basically, if you have a really extravagant guitar and you want to bring out the feel of the guitars sound and resonance, you want the phosphor, but for any old guitar the 80/20s are a good all arounder.
If I'm understanding this right?
Usually a custom light nano 20/80 kinda guy but I've just recently come from a tanglewood to a new taylor 110e and I put on my exfir custom light 20/80 nano and honestly it just doesnt go well with this guitar.
So I've gone for HD light, PB Nano which are coming in delivery.
Worked out the most expensive also.
Totally depends on the guitar. I forget if I still tell people that I use a taylor 812ce in my videos but it definitely makes a difference.
Right now I got a breedlove concerto guitar, and a taylor 414ce . The 80/20 sounds better on my taylor , and the phosphor better on my breedlove . It crazy how the tune of the different types wood makes a difference in the string materials. Can you make a video on cedar tops vs spruce tops ?
Totally, Ive heard a lot of back and forth and what contributes to the tone of the guitar. Definitely "tone"woods, but I hear that the way the guitar is braced determines the tone too. I guess it determines how much the top and sides actually vibrate. Gotta get my hands on a cedar top now...
That fretboard is gorgeous
Oh yea I like it. In the old days the tree this fretboard came from would have been thrown away. Sustainable and beautiful. Awesomeness!
Looking for elixir strings , never try it before ...any recommend ? Phosphor bronze or 80/20? Haha ps using Cord GA-5f PF
Both are great strings. Maybe try the Phosphor bronze first and if you need something brighter then try out the 80/20s. But, I really like the Phosphor Bronze.
Alright thankyou !
One thing I’m curious, is 012-056 suitable for finger style ? instead of 012-053.
@@kelvinchan8153 It probably depends more on your finger strength. I do like a higher gauge for tone but it just takes too much effort to play so I tend to go lighter. I sacrifice a little bit of tone for ease of playing. Basically I try to limit as man obstacles that are in my way for playing guitar at this point. I keep the guitar in a really convenient location so I dont have an excuse not to play and I also use strings that I feel are comfortable.
Thanks man !
I recently purchase a Yamaha FS800 for a beginner guitar, which elixir strings would you recommend? I have small hands, and don't like too much hard strings like it came on my guitar. It's very hard to press 😅
I do like Elixirs a lot. Try a lighter gauge size for they will be easier to play. I like "custom lights" but you can also try "extra lights". They are the lightest strings you can get.
@@JTravlos Thank you. May I know what is the difference between these numbers? 10/47, 11/52, 12/53
@@IcePianistI made a video that explains these numbers. In short, they are the thickness of the strings. Smaller the number, easier to play.
ua-cam.com/video/hPv84gMicEw/v-deo.html
@@JTravlos I see. I just noticed the difference when I was browsing the strings again 😅
Thank you again for the help
Glad I could help. My favorites are the 11/52s (custom lights). I found that anything lighter was too bright. But honestly, a good feeling string is important so maybe just experiment with one gauge and then move up and down from there next time you buy strings.
Thank you very much .
You're Welcome!
Hi may i know what gauge size did you use for 80/20 string?
sure, custom lights (11s)
Which one would be suitable for Cort SFX Open Pore? Please reply
I think phosphor bronze sound better. So that would be my vote.
No matter your string preference, with this video YOU CAN DECIDE! The video is well thought out and is the best tool for deciding between these strings. Not only are the strings on the SAME guitar, but a great variety of performing styles! Thanks so much. My mind is made up!
thanks!
May i know what are the differences between elixir custom light(11|52) and elixir light(11|53) type? Which one is the thinnest? Btw im the first one who comment 😬
The first minute of this video should answer your question. ua-cam.com/video/hPv84gMicEw/v-deo.html
I made this video comparing all the different gauge types. Elixir has many different gauge types, more-so than any other string manufacturer. Thanks for asking!
Because of the different metals used, for the same gauge, is there a difference is string tension?
Hmm, I didnt notice anything, but maybe if you hooked it up to some special caliper there might be? To my fingers...they felt the same.
I dunno. I had a taylor that I used phosphor on and loved it switched to 80/20 and hated it. Conversely because of that, I strung up my humming birds with 80/20 and hated it, and switched over to phosphor. Guitars matter on tone.
Totally agree. Even similar body shapes by different manufactures sound drastically different. I've learned more recently that it is a little less about tone wood and more about the bracing. Moral of the story is to keep experimenting. What do you have to lose? 15 bux for a pack of strings?
Think I'm gonna switch on my taylor 110e to pb always been bronze in past for past 13 years lol.
@@JTravlos To some 15 bux is money
The biggest difference is that when 80-20’s are broken in, they work on certain guitars better than PB’s namely Gibsons.
Listen at 2:50 for the arpeggio…it ain’t even close…80-20’s are killer.
What is better string for dreadnought size guitar? a phospor or 80/20?
I personally like Phosphor myself but I think its pretty subjective. It is pretty much opinion. Try the Phosphor and see if you like them. Then maybe the next time try the 80/20s. Its good to know what they both sound like on your instrument.
Phosphor Bronze sound thinner. Perhaps they Sound better on a Martin? I currently play a Taylor, & use the Elixir 80/20 ( 12"s ) on my 414ce-R - they sound great, but are getting too Expensive. Price keeps going-up. Great comparison. Very fair. Enjoyed it.
The price does keep going up. I like the coating though however I just used "fast fret" and I bet you could get cheaper strings and just use that stuff on it to keep them slick.
@@JTravlos Thanks for the input. I am Hoping another company will develop-something to Compete with Elixir - so they will "Tone-down" the Price Gouging. It's only a matter-of-time.
Ayyyy...!! My Guitar's name is Jeremy...😄
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You're Welcome!
I'm using Cort Ad880ce right now, which string would you recommend ? PB or the 80/20 .
I like PB the best!
Hi, which one is good for yamaha fgx800c 80/20 or the pb?
I like the sound of PB better. But, that is only my opinion. Maybe try them out first?
As I know different guitars have different sounding to them, depending on the wood materials and shape. I have Yamaha F370, what do you think would fit better? The 80/20 or Phosphor Bronze?
Try phosphor bronze if your have a spruce top. I like that combination.
Phosphor bronze if you want the guitar to sound thicker with a bit more bass and 80/20 if you want it to sound brighter and a bit more old school I'd say. It is entirely subjective but I'd go with phosphor bronze, it kinda makes the guitars sound like they have better quality xD
@@PainkillerDCXVI Agreed, I like 80/20s with dark tops like mahogany.
This is a great video comparison, but I don't know if it's gonna help me make a decision 😅
Both sound so great and stand out in their own areas, so this is quite difficult! 🤣
Totally get it. Play the long game and try them both out! I am glad I make these videos because I can now have an opinion on this stuff. Still, all elixirs are good. But, I do like Phosphor Bronze better.
@@JTravlos yeah. I've used the 80/20s for years and know I like them, but I was sent a bunch of phosphor sets as part of a rebate deal after buying a new guitar last year, so I'm thinking about trying them out this time. They're going on a church guitar, and I primarily strum there. The phosphor did seem to have a better sound when strumming, so I'm thinking they'll be the right choice, but we'll see!
@@steppintofreedomthings1894 Cool, report back after you get them!
@@JTravlos just got them on and let them stretch for a bit before tuning. They do sound quite nice! I put them on a Yamaha AC1M, and it's currently almost comparable to my Taylor 514ce with 80/20s that have been on for a few months. The Taylor obviously has a better overall sound and tone and plays easier, but the Yamaha has been a solid all around piece for the price. I'll have to throw phosphors on the Taylor whenever it's ready for a string change 😅
@@steppintofreedomthings1894 Nice. Does the taylor 514 have a cedar top?
Which was louder? Without the volume adjustment which was louder/quieter?
Oh I dont even remember. I dont think any one in particular stood out.
@@JTravlos Thanks for reply. In the video you said the volumes had been adjusted so it wasn't a factor. It made me wonder. Thanks for the great videos.
I got Tanglewood TFEA cedar top solid, which one should i pick?
try them both! But maybe go with the 80/20s first?
which one do you prefer for bright sounded guitar?(for strumming)
80/20s will give you a bright sound. Phosphor Bronze for a warmer sound.
@@JTravlos thanks for the advice🙏
My deal is I use PB on rosewood guitars and 80/20's on Mahogany...BTW Elixir are the longest lasting stings on the planet, great customer service and quality.
what about dean markley blue steel strings??
which one the best for cort af510..?
laminated guitar
I tend to recommend the Elixir Phosphor Bronze over the 80/20. I personally like the sound of them better. However, I also think trying both out for yourself is a good way to go. Try the custom light gauge size. They feel really good.
@@JTravlos Stop using electric and use Med. gives more volume, if on stage . Use a mic in front of you. lol
I have a problem with the nano Web, as my fingers slide off them.
Dunno if it's the editing or just YT, but even with my studio headphones there's virtually no bass.
Regardless, my 000 is really picky and needs a brighter string, only 80/20's or String Joy's give the tone I want. The new D'adario XS strings (phosphor bronze) were horrible fresh, but after a day had a great sound, but died off couple of days.
I'm not a fan of any particular brands, I just use what brings the guitar to life. Love the Martin Retro's on the 000 and the Dread, nice tone. I've used every brand, but they change depending on the guitar. The Dread is Rosewood & spruce while the 000 is all Mahogany.
When I buy a new acoustic (rarely) I grab a set of of each brand of typically good strings and weed out the losers. Some guitars are picky, bracing & wood along with size makes a massive difference.
String Joy's were a real surprise, very similar to 80/20 Elixir's
I think they cost more than Elixir's, but they're certainly top tier. Well worth a try.
Good to know about the stringjoys. I get ads all the time for them. Ill get a pack soon and do a showdown.
Good comparison.
thanks!
I have a Fender CD 140 SCE. Which one will be better.
I always say try the phosphor bronze first. I like them more.