muh1h1 he says i just chucked this together "quick and dirty" ... out pops a collectable work of art.... dude got mad skills in the words of todays youth
One trick that was used in the old incandescent 7-segment displays was that they overlapped the ends of the segments because the filaments didn't give off much light for their first millimeter or two. You might want to try something like that with these to reduce the apparent gap between the segments.
"I put this together really quickly" I think I'd be happy to put something like that together in the space of a work-week, including the clock software!
Very nice! I'm hoping they do these filaments in other colours at some point. The ULN2803 went through my mind when I was playing with these. Octal Darlington driver rated to 50V.
+Dick Fageroni Yeah but the TI chip (which I just _happen_ to have a tube of right here) is serially loadable and can be daisychained - much less wiring
Looks really cool, I felt a bit bad for the one you broke but I got over it when you showed that click you made which is very impressive! Looks like the diffuser and filter will make it complete.
Very informative, and I remember those radio-valve like numerical displays in our local garage. Must be getting old LOL. I've a couple of these bulbs that have gone phut after a string of LEDs died, but the other bulbs I have seem reliable. What I really like are the old Edison type bulbs that look as if they're from the late 1800s. They even sell those bulbs in ASDA's , but have recently really jacked the price up.
I Once made a segment score board display with nothing more than frosted glass, a black vinyl graphical template made up at the local printers and glued plywood light seperators, using red & yellow single per segment leds. Worked great. The viewing angle wasn't fantasic though, but for oncoming traffic super readable! This is a variation of something i did 20 years ago, but has so much more scope. Chase a dream my friend! If you don't, i will ;)
Great video. Ignore the people complaining that you're hard to understand. I'm not a native English speaker and had no trouble understanding every word you said.
Awesome! I wasn't aware of those LED strips - got me wondering what else they could be used for - maybe replacement backlight in some old LCD screens (Atari Lynx, Game Gear etc).
these look like a lot of fun to play around with. i think I'd have to have like 70 of them haha. new subscriber, i like how you cover many things about the design of the component and it's possible uses :)
These are so cool! Was lookign at a bunch of them in NYC's lighting district yesterday (and both soft white and cool white), and saw that they actually consist of a row of dies. HAd no idea they were actually bendable like that! I'm wondering if they will ever be able to make them RGB. I guess it would be difficult to squeeze red, green and blue dies onto those boards, or they would have to become thicker.
Awesome clock you built there.. what if we paint these LED filaments in matt black so that the non active filaments are not visible? It will make it slightly dim but make the digits more distinct.
Seems like you'd have to know your stuff when working with these as they seem more technical than the more common LED's. Thank you however for tinkering around with these and sharing your experience. I wonder if someone could retrofit some of those giant old tubes you'd find in really old radios with these things to make something like that tube thing you showed that pre-dated LED number displays
LED nixie tube? hell to the yes although I'd recommend dimming them quite a bit and using Amber tinted plastic for the cover to heighten the effect. maybe even spray on some black stuff for a simulated soot effect
interesting and I like the answer you came up with for the "ok now what can I use these for?" question. I'm in the U.S.A. and cant seem to find these thing (initial online search) any suggestions for getting the manufacturer info?
GR8T sutff Mr Mike! I've always been a BIG fan of "segmented lighting".. like Nixie. I was knocked over with how good your clock display was.. B-RIGHT! (a must have detail IMHO). And the ability to "manipulate" the lengths of "micro LED's" could get interesting. p.s That's a pretty nice "quickie pcb" :o) I'll assume then that your nicer boards are currently in the ISS and or communication satellites? Thanks for the video! Ca. USA.
I noticed my bulb flickering from static as I removed it from its packaging (in near darkness), are they sensitive to static or are the electronics playing a part???
Just found your channel and looking forward to seeing more. I seen these in seeing Asda. Because of their price (about £9 a bulb), I didn't bother having a closer look, but wish i did. I didn't realise they used LEDs as it looked like a long filament from a distance, so will be checking these out on eBay. I see you're not using veroboard, are you printing and etching them yourself?
Great idea for using the new to emulate the old. Too bad some Andy Warholish Artist doesn't run with this. Come to think of it your ending 3D object reminded me a bit of the chinese opening at the Olympic games where they wore LED suits and from quite a distance they spelled out things in the dark (topview) as they have at stadium games for years. Only it was massive scale. I remember the wire-wrapping sockets -- Never used them, went straight from soldering to silver-nickel breadboards that were fairly new at the time. (and expensive! I can't believe how reasonable they are now)
It'd be fun to emulate a proper nixie tube with these, but that might be difficult. These are still pretty high voltage, and bending them is still very difficult.
Awesome little project a clock that lights up the whole room as well as tells the time :-) I think slanting the digits would also help readability. What was the total cost?
Interesting video, thanks. I have been wondering how these bulbs handle heat dissipation for a while now, this video answered that question nicely. I use these bulbs in all my outdoor lighting, and they are very bright indeed, but most importantly, the missus think they're pretty compared to other LED bulbs on the market, which i think all the married gents can attest to, is a major factor. Also, I do wonder about their efficiency and luminous output. It should be high, considering their high forward voltage, and the relatively low power consumption.. these suckers are very bright, at least the bulbs i got actually hurt to look at, which really surprised me - i expected naught but a novelty bulb.
Hey, commenting on an old video, but I hope you read it. I am trying to join these LEDs in serries - + - + , and run them on 6 volts (their voltage is 3.1v each). They dont light up. How can I get 2 of them to light them up in serries?
mikeselectricstuff Or since they are so bright put the whole thing in another more attractive sleeve or coloured glass/plastics tube. I wonder if some manufacturer in China might not be persuaded to sell a reel of bare diodes ...
i love how you always say "i put this together really quickly", and then show something super awesome i would be super proud of if i could build it :D
muh1h1 I know right! I feel the same
muh1h1 he says i just chucked this together "quick and dirty" ... out pops a collectable work of art.... dude got mad skills in the words of todays youth
One day I wanna buy you a beer, not many people make awesome and provide full blueprints and extremely detailed explanation.
One trick that was used in the old incandescent 7-segment displays was that they overlapped the ends of the segments because the filaments didn't give off much light for their first millimeter or two. You might want to try something like that with these to reduce the apparent gap between the segments.
"They turn into dark-emitting diodes" XD
Great video and project as always!
komrad36 You haven't heard of the Smoke-Emitting Diodes? xD.
Gordon Freeman ive had some sound emitting diodes! And on one occasion when i shorted a battery with a diode, i got a heat emitting diode!!!!
komrad36 I can remember playing with LEDs in high school, I put one across a car battery and made a pop emitting diode. Damn near crapped myself.
If you drive enough current trough them they might turn into black body radiators and end up looking like real tungsten filament again!
"I put this together really quickly"
I think I'd be happy to put something like that together in the space of a work-week, including the clock software!
A friend of mine used to say "you do good work" and you do too!!! Thanks for the project.
Brilliant stuff, thanks for sharing these new LED filament devices. Will get some myself too. Keep up the great video's.
I like those LED filaments. I'm going to buy some. Nice video!
Cool stuff. I've always loved those filament display lamps.
Most of your video's have a soothing effect on me. It's magic.
That clock is awesome!
To stojí za zhlédnout užasné..
Sir Maxxarcade!
Very nice! I'm hoping they do these filaments in other colours at some point.
The ULN2803 went through my mind when I was playing with these. Octal Darlington driver rated to 50V.
That's what I thought of as well. They work great for driving nixie tubes too.
+Dick Fageroni Yeah but the TI chip (which I just _happen_ to have a tube of right here) is serially loadable and can be daisychained - much less wiring
bigclivedotcom You can buy bulbs with coloured filaments.
You can get loose coloured filaments (red, blue and green) on eBay now, including ones at 12 V and 3 V.
@@rupert274 Really? What search terms?
I always love your stuff.I am very glad to have come across you.
Awesome, Mike!! Thanks a heap, I am really looking for something like this for my project. Really helpful! Love it!
Looks really cool, I felt a bit bad for the one you broke but I got over it when you showed that click you made which is very impressive! Looks like the diffuser and filter will make it complete.
just saw them on ebay and was so excited to see mikeselectricalstuff had a video! great work mate
Very informative, and I remember those radio-valve like numerical displays in our local garage. Must be getting old LOL. I've a couple of these bulbs that have gone phut after a string of LEDs died, but the other bulbs I have seem reliable. What I really like are the old Edison type bulbs that look as if they're from the late 1800s. They even sell those bulbs in ASDA's , but have recently really jacked the price up.
This is really cool. I'm glad I stumbled upon this channel.
what a talented man. hope you're creating stuff in the retail world.
Neat demonstration of these LED filaments!
Awesome! Those look fun to play with!
I Once made a segment score board display with nothing more than frosted glass, a black vinyl graphical template made up at the local printers and glued plywood light seperators, using red & yellow single per segment leds. Worked great. The viewing angle wasn't fantasic though, but for oncoming traffic super readable! This is a variation of something i did 20 years ago, but has so much more scope. Chase a dream my friend! If you don't, i will ;)
awesome clock build mate.
Great video. Ignore the people complaining that you're hard to understand. I'm not a native English speaker and had no trouble understanding every word you said.
Looks great with the diffuser. Class project.
Awesome! I wasn't aware of those LED strips - got me wondering what else they could be used for - maybe replacement backlight in some old LCD screens (Atari Lynx, Game Gear etc).
Brilliant idea. never heard of this led fillament. Thanks.
What an awesome project :) Once again.
Very interesting. I'd never seen before. Thank you for the post.
Cool project Mike, thanks!
I was thinking of the same thing. I have nixie tubes and when I first saw those filaments the same idea poped into my head. :)
I bought a few of these, they actually light quite well!
Fantastic idea. Well done!
I love the idea of the clock, have to give it a try.
Thanks for posting, I've got some costume ideas rolling around my head now.
It looked so cool with that "defusing material"! You should keep it that way.
"Quick and dirty" he says with a full milled pcb,
and here I am murdering my breadboard with coat hangers
Really interesting tech, Mike. I didn't even know this stuff existed.
Nice work, the clock looks pretty cool :D
Just been enjoying your website, amazed I have not noticed it before as enjoyed the youtube page plenty of times.
Cube is cool! Good ideas, thanks for video.
I love the look of the diffuser
these look like a lot of fun to play around with. i think I'd have to have like 70 of them haha. new subscriber, i like how you cover many things about the design of the component and it's possible uses :)
You never disappoint me, as always fascinating content!
you are very innovative in electronics, thanks for the video !!!
nice idea. as always love your videos
These are so cool! Was lookign at a bunch of them in NYC's lighting district yesterday (and both soft white and cool white), and saw that they actually consist of a row of dies. HAd no idea they were actually bendable like that!
I'm wondering if they will ever be able to make them RGB. I guess it would be difficult to squeeze red, green and blue dies onto those boards, or they would have to become thicker.
this is beautiful! I thought the clock looked nice with the tinted!
Thanks for sharing Mike!
Wire wrapping is still commonly used in In Circuit Test (ICT) fixtures. Just FYI if anyone was wondering.
Very nice electricstuff
Light shields or even reflective backing on the sides of the LED filaments may help with the light bleed too.
Awesome clock you built there.. what if we paint these LED filaments in matt black so that the non active filaments are not visible? It will make it slightly dim but make the digits more distinct.
That's a great introduction to something I've never seen before. Potentially very useful for Arduino projects. Thanks for the video.
Micky (Slotski) Actually 'introduction' doesn't do this presentation justice. Very detailed.
Props to "Big Clive" got a new subscriber
Careful with that ~200v cube :) Really interesting as usual, off to eBay now...
Tony Wilk what's the problem.... I did put a 10K resistor on the output of my 0-600V bench supply!
mikeselectricstuff More power Igor!
Yeh, I had quite a few broken or 'iffy'. Just shoved in a bag isn't good enough for things this delicate.
Seems like you'd have to know your stuff when working with these as they seem more technical than the more common LED's. Thank you however for tinkering around with these and sharing your experience. I wonder if someone could retrofit some of those giant old tubes you'd find in really old radios with these things to make something like that tube thing you showed that pre-dated LED number displays
Very very good. I enjoyed lostening to you
That clock is Fucking Amazing dude. Keep up the good work and thanks for the vid
LED nixie tube? hell to the yes
although I'd recommend dimming them quite a bit and using Amber tinted plastic for the cover to heighten the effect. maybe even spray on some black stuff for a simulated soot effect
Looks very cool
interesting and I like the answer you came up with for the "ok now what can I use these for?" question. I'm in the U.S.A. and cant seem to find these thing (initial online search) any suggestions for getting the manufacturer info?
A welders glass is also very useful to study lit LED lamps!
Thank u very much for ur great videos mike! i always learn alot TQ again! :)
Nice Display, Humm Led Nixie Tube would Rock, just thinking out loud.
Pretty cool - I didn't know they existed!
Здорово получилось, интересный фильм!
Super cool. 10/10 would buy
Thought I will see a fillament for 3D-printing with luminophor like in glowing cables :< It would be awesome.
Exactly the same here! It would indeed be awesome...
ha, you're optimistic.
GR8T sutff Mr Mike! I've always been a BIG fan of "segmented lighting".. like Nixie. I was knocked over with how good your clock display was.. B-RIGHT! (a must have detail IMHO). And the ability to "manipulate" the lengths of "micro LED's" could get interesting. p.s That's a pretty nice "quickie pcb" :o) I'll assume then that your nicer boards are currently in the ISS and or communication satellites? Thanks for the video! Ca. USA.
I noticed my bulb flickering from static as I removed it from its packaging (in near darkness), are they sensitive to static or are the electronics playing a part???
Great video !
Wow... Great break down dude..
I guess a 24h display would make it more readable, having the second marker in the actual middle, might make it easier for the eye to orientate.
That's really cool, I think the diffuser is necessary.
Just found your channel and looking forward to seeing more. I seen these in seeing Asda. Because of their price (about £9 a bulb), I didn't bother having a closer look, but wish i did. I didn't realise they used LEDs as it looked like a long filament from a distance, so will be checking these out on eBay. I see you're not using veroboard, are you printing and etching them yourself?
Open drain driver? You blew most of the viewers with that one comment!
Great idea for using the new to emulate the old. Too bad some Andy Warholish Artist doesn't run with this. Come to think of it your ending 3D object reminded me a bit of the chinese opening at the Olympic games where they wore LED suits and from quite a distance they spelled out things in the dark (topview) as they have at stadium games for years. Only it was massive scale. I remember the wire-wrapping sockets -- Never used them, went straight from soldering to silver-nickel breadboards that were fairly new at the time. (and expensive! I can't believe how reasonable they are now)
It'd be fun to emulate a proper nixie tube with these, but that might be difficult. These are still pretty high voltage, and bending them is still very difficult.
pretty nice clock
This is amazing. How long did it take to build the clock?
the "nixie tube" is more like a 7-segment LCD than a real nixie. Think it's possible to make a proper LED nixie with the nice separate numbers?
I think it is. And multicolor to boot.
You're a bit like if bigclive didn't spend half his time drinking dark and stormy's but downed about 3 cups of coffee before a video...and I love it.
Awesome little project a clock that lights up the whole room as well as tells the time :-) I think slanting the digits would also help readability. What was the total cost?
Interesting video, thanks. I have been wondering how these bulbs handle heat dissipation for a while now, this video answered that question nicely.
I use these bulbs in all my outdoor lighting, and they are very bright indeed, but most importantly, the missus think they're pretty compared to other LED bulbs on the market, which i think all the married gents can attest to, is a major factor.
Also, I do wonder about their efficiency and luminous output. It should be high, considering their high forward voltage, and the relatively low power consumption.. these suckers are very bright, at least the bulbs i got actually hurt to look at, which really surprised me - i expected naught but a novelty bulb.
Seeing as they're quasi-flexible, could they be used to simulate an actual Nixie tube, with the curved numbers on mesh, inside a glass bulb?
Hey, commenting on an old video, but I hope you read it.
I am trying to join these LEDs in serries - + - + , and run them on 6 volts (their voltage is 3.1v each). They dont light up. How can I get 2 of them to light them up in serries?
very interesting effect on the cooling of the junction
that is looking realy nice :)
Those are incredible. Hopefully some are headed my way at an affordable price.
Now I'm going to be trying to come up with so many things to do with these. This could be quite useful.
Excellent... I'd love a clock like that for my man-cave!!
nice application !
A quick heat shrink or a wrap with EL tape ought to get you sorted with that shorting issue. :)
If you wanted to run a single filament off of a battery could you just directly drive it and if so what batt would you recommend?
Jess Hull id also appreciate an answer to this question.
Minitrons are still being made, as some avionics use them in their displays.
Ha, those little things are pretty cool.
Excellent video.
Perhaps it would be possible to replace the sleeve with a more attractive one.
Or just use the bare LED strip for a "high tech" look?
mark314158 No - if you peel the silicone (or whatever it is), it takes the bond wires with it. Might be possible to dissolve it in something though.
mikeselectricstuff Or since they are so bright put the whole thing in another more attractive sleeve or coloured glass/plastics tube.
I wonder if some manufacturer in China might not be persuaded to sell a reel of bare diodes ...
Dolls house fluorescent strip light? Cool clock, good alternative for expensive large 7 seg's
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cool clock ahmed