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  • Siskel & Ebert review the much under appreciated Batman Mask of the Phantasm. One of the Best Batman movies ever made.
    This review was aired right around the time that Batman forever was in theaters. In their review Gene Siskel apologizes for originally overlooking this film, and Roger Ebert reflects on how it made him realize that animation isn't just for kids. Both of them reflect on how this movie was better plotted than any of the live action films thus far.

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  • @LynnJynh9315
    @LynnJynh9315 13 років тому +296

    One thing I really love about Ebert is his willingness to accept animation as a legitimate medium.

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 Рік тому +13

      …and yet he refused to accept video games.

    • @dwainsimmons3447
      @dwainsimmons3447 Рік тому +6

      Unlike 4kids

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 7 місяців тому

      @@Butterratbee The “games aren’t art” debate wasn’t the ‘90s. His refusal to consider them was in the era of masterpiece games like Shadow of the Colossus which he would dismiss without even looking at them… but I cried when Hamlet suddenly sacrificed himself to save your group from the cannibals in 1994’s “Illusion of Gaia.” If the game designers can make you feel: It’s art.
      His logic was that it can’t be art because the player controls the outcome where movies are passively consumed. IOW, Mario Paint isn’t art since the player is the artist and he applies that same logic to all game experiences.
      In games the director controls the experience, just like a movie.

    • @tobe1207
      @tobe1207 6 місяців тому +1

      Hes an old school movie guy, the world would suck if everyone played games

    • @LynnJynh9315
      @LynnJynh9315 6 місяців тому +2

      @@tobe1207 For point of reference, Ebert was still alive when I posted that comment.
      He died in 2013. That's a hell of a necropost.

  • @erika_fuzzbottom
    @erika_fuzzbottom 8 років тому +420

    If the worst thing they could say about the movie was "I didn't like the Joker's voice", then I am satisfied.

    • @KRw0lf
      @KRw0lf 4 роки тому +43

      To each their own. I actually had no issues with Hamill doing Joker

    • @erika_fuzzbottom
      @erika_fuzzbottom 4 роки тому +64

      Oh totally, I think Hamill is the best Joker!

    • @RachelDeRosier010894
      @RachelDeRosier010894 4 роки тому +34

      @Notorious1503 Same here. How can anyone not like Mark Hamill's Joker?

    • @samfrazier5599
      @samfrazier5599 3 роки тому +7

      @@erika_fuzzbottom agreed. He does an amazing job.

    • @craigwilson3532
      @craigwilson3532 3 роки тому +12

      2:08 siskel wants more of this batman, it's called batman the animated series lol

  • @PatricksCrazyPlace
    @PatricksCrazyPlace 8 років тому +976

    "I don't like this Joker's voice"
    Siskel, you might be the ONLY one.

    • @LightFromADeadStar
      @LightFromADeadStar 8 років тому +14

      what an idiot

    • @freddyrichards878
      @freddyrichards878 7 років тому +10

      Patrick's Crazy Place I don't like it either

    • @RealFanOfSteel
      @RealFanOfSteel 6 років тому +11

      Freddy Richards what?!? You're a dead man, buddy!

    • @RealFanOfSteel
      @RealFanOfSteel 6 років тому +2

      Patrick's Crazy Place my dad hates it too. He doesn't like the darker Batman or Joker.

    • @LoverOfManyArts
      @LoverOfManyArts 6 років тому +8

      He's not the only one, I don't like this jokers voice either

  • @tjstuff1
    @tjstuff1  16 років тому +188

    The important thing about this review is that: 1: they really recognized the films intelligence and didn't dismiss it because it wasn't live action (The way so many other critics had, at the time). 2 It was with this film that Roger Ebert began to champion animation as not being just for kids. It was after this film that they started to review adult Japanese animated films on a regular basis and and any other animated films that where intelligent and might have been overlooked by the media.

    • @donovansan
      @donovansan 2 роки тому +11

      Ebert was always supportive of animation.

    • @crustyroach6921
      @crustyroach6921 20 днів тому

      Mask of the Phantasm and the Transformers animated movie are a great example of catching adult eyes something quite not possible with live action. Do you feel the action, you feel the visceral story even though it's frame by frame animation wonderful.

  • @Hannibal953able
    @Hannibal953able 9 років тому +112

    R.I.P. Gene Siskel and Robert Ebert.

  • @joseaguilar4845
    @joseaguilar4845 9 років тому +396

    You know, Siskel discovered this great movie years after it came out and was completely ignored by critics and audiences and he Showed it to Roger for review.
    After it appeared on this show the VHS tapes skyrocketed and the eventual success in home video of this movie lead to more demand for the animated series, which lead to Superman TAS, which lead to the DCAU and the current DTV DC movies that we get now a days.
    Throwing a hissy fit over him not liking (not hating, mind you, just not liking) MH's Joker seems like a really petty thing to complain about.

    • @NefariousDreary
      @NefariousDreary 9 років тому +12

      Word

    • @liquidsnake8338
      @liquidsnake8338 9 років тому +20

      True while I respectfully disagree if they never did this review the dcau would have never taken off

    • @liquidsnake8338
      @liquidsnake8338 9 років тому +5

      willam dosantos also mark as awesome as he was in this didn't get nearly as awesome lines as he did in the show

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 7 років тому +5

      It was only 2 years after it came out that they reviewed it.

    • @DietrichGarbo
      @DietrichGarbo 6 років тому +12

      Keep in mind it was probably really awesome for the production team to see this. I mean they straight out held them up with the live action films. It was likely this review that accounts for WB animation giving green lights to lots of projects, and them being the premier in comics animation because they were allowed to go for a teen to adult audience.

  • @Ender424
    @Ender424 11 років тому +70

    RIP Siskel & Ebert. They showed a lot of love for good animated films including anime.

  • @gorrow1990
    @gorrow1990 9 років тому +200

    Siskel didn't like Mark Hamill's Joker voice? Everytime I think of the Joker speaking, I hear Hamill's voice. Siskel might be the only person that didn't like Hamill as the Joker.

    • @bmla88
      @bmla88 4 роки тому +5

      Sick Boy not true. Nicholson’s joker was great for it’s time. One of the reasons Bruce Timm said they could make BTAS as dark as it was, was because of the success of Batman 89 which was a success thanks to Nicholson.

    • @GavinAeilts
      @GavinAeilts 2 роки тому +2

      To be fair to siskel, this was Mark Hamill's first time doing the joker after the animated series that ebert and siskel likely didn't watch.

  • @MovieFinatic
    @MovieFinatic 8 років тому +462

    Siskel is dead wrong on Hamill's voice but at least they appreciated it very much.

    • @davidmccright3764
      @davidmccright3764 8 років тому +68

      He's also just dead in general.

    • @Persnikity-yv3nh
      @Persnikity-yv3nh 8 років тому +10

      +David McCright Too soon, man...

    • @blondie8372
      @blondie8372 7 років тому +19

      how is an opinion wrong?
      he just didn't like it

    • @SchweitzerMan
      @SchweitzerMan 7 років тому +10

      Too soon? He died in 1999

    • @Tallahassee21
      @Tallahassee21 7 років тому +2

      Gråskallen rutilus so in a sense hes not wrong in that its an opinion, but when I'd say 90% of people love hamills version of the character hes on the wrong side.

  • @JamesWVanFleet
    @JamesWVanFleet 6 років тому +66

    Siskel and Ebert going out of their way to promote this movie is emblematic of how much they loved good movies - that they wouldn't let this low-budget barely-theatrical-release animated Batman fall by the wayside when they could promote it. When they saw that good movies were underseen or not understood, they went to the mat for those movies. They promoted "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer." They promoted "Hoop Dreams." And they promoted "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm."

  • @Tstarr
    @Tstarr 10 років тому +84

    Mark Hamill was EXCELLENT as the Joker. That voice really fits that character IMO.

    • @VHunterBillyBob
      @VHunterBillyBob 10 років тому +5

      remember he's reviewing the performance from the film. seeing as how it's not mentioned, I don't think either one of them had seen the cartoon series. otherwise it's one complaint, for a film they deemed excellent.

  • @jokerboy4284
    @jokerboy4284 9 років тому +168

    Doesn't like mark hammils joker?! Blasphemy!

    • @TheMasterQuests
      @TheMasterQuests 9 років тому +11

      The stalker I was also shocked because everyone loves Mark Hamills Joker

  • @jackieboyborden
    @jackieboyborden 8 років тому +46

    "I watch it at home on laser disc"

  • @KenMeredith
    @KenMeredith 2 роки тому +53

    In 2021 it's easy to forget there was a time where Mark Hamill's take on the Joker was NOT the definitive version of the character.
    Jack Nicholson's Joker in 1989's Batman was seen as the best version

    • @mutantmagnet
      @mutantmagnet 11 місяців тому

      Everyone in the school yard knew what was the definitive take. Not a bunch of out of touch fossils 😉

    • @ParodyKnaveBob
      @ParodyKnaveBob 6 місяців тому

      I'm not weirded out by his preferring Jack Nicholson to Mark Hamill. I'm weirded out by his preferring Caesar Romero to Mark Hamill. Nostalgic bias on his part? Sure, I can give that -- but imagine growing up with Jared Leto's Joker and still preferring that to .... well, y'know, anyone else's.

  • @Billcasey
    @Billcasey 10 років тому +51

    Hamill really nailed the voice. It was scratchy enough to sound damaged by chemicals, while emoting generous amounts of insane whimsy. The speech pattern was chaotic and melodic at times. He'd deliver a line in ways you wouldn't readily expect...

  • @squishyty918
    @squishyty918 3 роки тому +24

    Me: I kinda agree with this guy. He knows what he’s talking about.
    “I didn’t like this Joker’s voice.”
    Me: *flips table and throws chair*

  • @rhettgedies7467
    @rhettgedies7467 9 років тому +296

    Love Siskel & Ebert, but dumping on Hamil's iconic Joker.....sorry, have to draw a line there.

    • @300daysandnights
      @300daysandnights 9 років тому +17

      +Rhett Gedies Some people have different opinions.

    • @mariaprencipr9856
      @mariaprencipr9856 8 років тому +1

      s

    • @MrDvan812
      @MrDvan812 8 років тому +10

      +Rhett Gedies Oh what the heck I'll laugh anyway!
      Hahahahahahahaha!

    • @popeye697
      @popeye697 8 років тому +5

      +300daysandnights wrong opinions

    • @lmcd301
      @lmcd301 8 років тому +1

      +Rhett Gedies Well, I wouldn't exactly say he's wrong in saying that Nicholson's was better, but it's still a great voice. I suppose we'll never know what Ebert thought of it himself.

  • @PhilipPedro2112
    @PhilipPedro2112 4 роки тому +26

    Used to watch The Animated Series afternoons after I woke up for work. Was impressed with the talented animation, stories and scores. Better than most cartoons of the era.
    Now I own all three DVD sets.
    Really miss Siskel & Ebert when looking for reviews. Two Thumbs Up was almost a guarantee a film was worthy of renting.

  • @Tamlinearthly
    @Tamlinearthly 4 роки тому +50

    See, Gene gets it, he's the kind of guy you can always rely on to really understand--
    "I don't like this Joker's voice."
    Gene? I don't know any Gene. I thought I knew a Gene once, but he turned out to be a lie in the shape of a man.

  • @chrisodonnell1120
    @chrisodonnell1120 9 років тому +105

    You don't like the Joker's voice...
    How dare you!!!
    Good day!!!

  • @SuperMicklovin
    @SuperMicklovin 10 років тому +37

    Siskel: The only person who disliked Hamill's Joker voice. Though to be fair he did just start out and Siskel seems like an old school guy.

    • @SamuraiJedi7
      @SamuraiJedi7 10 років тому +3

      Yeah, he doesn't say its bad so much as it isn't his preference which is perfectly fine.

    • @CatMaster90001
      @CatMaster90001 9 років тому +7

      That, and Roger Ebert claimed that he thought video games would never be considered art. I still respect the two critics and their monumental impact upon cinematic appreciation as we know it today, despite a minor few disagreements.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 9 років тому +1

      Exactly, he was an old school guy and at the time this was the "new" Joker voice, not how we think of it now as the loved and established Mark Hamill voice. Siskel is probably fresh off thinking of Joker as Jack Nicholson.

    • @denzellmovies
      @denzellmovies 9 років тому

      Well, I love Mark Hamill's Joker but in the movie seemed a little weak to me to.

    • @jameswilliams-of3mv
      @jameswilliams-of3mv 8 років тому

      +SuperMicklovin siskel was always clueless.. he gave thumbs down to The Crow, Boogie Nights, Predator.. enough said..

  • @Movieman055
    @Movieman055 8 років тому +11

    I can't believe what I heard, "I didn't like the Joker's voice" WHAT?! I'M WITHOUT WORDS!

  • @LoN3wOlF5tudi0s
    @LoN3wOlF5tudi0s 8 років тому +97

    Probably the best Batman movie made before the Dark Knight trilogy.

    • @1mccaffery879
      @1mccaffery879 5 років тому +14

      It's a better BATMAN movie than anything in that trilogy but The Dark Knight is still probably a better movie.

    • @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin
      @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin 4 роки тому +3

      @@1mccaffery879 I still suspect people who believe such things never saw Batman Begins. That's the movie that sets up Batman as the emotionally-charge center of the next two films; TDK is great on its own but it's even better when BB makes you actually care about every second Bruce is onscreen cowl or no cowl.

    • @1mccaffery879
      @1mccaffery879 4 роки тому +4

      @@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin i really like Batman Begins. I like it more then Year One honestly. And I agree that it makes TDK a better movie by how it sets us up to care about Bruce as a character, but I'm not clear on what that has to do with my comment.

    • @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin
      @KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin 4 роки тому +1

      @@1mccaffery879 Batman Begins is a better "BATMAN" movie. And I would argue it does the necessary work to make The Dark Knight good as a Batman movie, too (vs. Nolan's "Heat" with a clown and a bat ninja).

    • @1mccaffery879
      @1mccaffery879 4 роки тому +6

      @@KanjoosLahookvinhaakvinhookvin I disagree. I'm not saying Begins is a bad "BATMAN" movie or even that TDK isn't. I just think that Mask of The Phantasm is probably the truest portrayal of Batman's character in any movie. Also with the connections to BTAS and the greater interconnected continuity of the DCAU just makes it better than it already is on it's own.

  • @derossetmyers47
    @derossetmyers47 8 років тому +63

    Dissing Mark Hamill's performance as The Joker would invite epic flaming today. Those are fightin' words!

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 8 років тому +1

      They truly are

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 8 років тому +2

      They liked the movie though.

    • @derossetmyers47
      @derossetmyers47 8 років тому

      Clay3613​ Yeah, but for some people, that's not enough.

  • @Darbobski
    @Darbobski 5 років тому +10

    Ebert is a prophet here.

  • @EnvytheHobgoblin
    @EnvytheHobgoblin 8 років тому +14

    "I watched it on Laser Disc"

  • @tymongoji
    @tymongoji 8 років тому +69

    People, Siskel was born in the forties and had seen various incarnations of The Joker is whole life - his points of reference are completely different and he was entitled to his own opinion of Hamill's performance. Everyone says that Ledger is overrated, but I'm starting to think it's Hammil, seeing the ridiculous fanboy comments here...

    • @ccaccord07
      @ccaccord07 8 років тому +9

      Very fair point you deserve upvotes

    • @cheezemonkeyeater
      @cheezemonkeyeater 8 років тому +13

      I do like Hamil's performance in a lot of ways and do give him credit, but I think what most people overlook here is it isn't just the voice that makes TAS Joker work. It's the writing. They hit a perfect balance of baffoonish prankster and psychotic murderer, with an added touch of Bipolar Disorder that makes his unpredictable nature both hilarious and terrifying.
      There is a reason why TAS Joker is considered by many to be the standard by which all other interpretations of the Joker should be judged.
      It's the same with Kevin Conroy. It's the writing more than the voice that makes the character such a high benchmark.

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 6 років тому

      tymongoji finally!! Somebody who understands!!

    • @pleaserewind295
      @pleaserewind295 6 років тому +3

      It's hard to overrate something that is so clearly brilliant.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 роки тому

      I think Ledger did a fine job. I just couldn't stand the motives of the character.

  • @grownuptrunks
    @grownuptrunks 9 років тому +15

    You are wrong. Mark Hamil was by far one of the best Jokers.

  • @sansthedrummer
    @sansthedrummer 4 роки тому +4

    Obviously I disagree with his opinion on Jokers voice (it's one of my favourites portrayals), but I can understand why. Coming from someone who more than likely grew up with the 60s joker, and with Nicholson's performance, it's something completely different.

  • @teslavoltagames3208
    @teslavoltagames3208 4 роки тому +18

    "I watch it at home on laser disc."
    Those were the days.

  • @humbertoduran2005
    @humbertoduran2005 8 років тому +143

    Why, why, why, whyyyy didn't he like Hamill's voice. Opinions are everywhere but this opinion sucks the big one.

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 8 років тому +1

      Ikr

    • @Jfjabba6
      @Jfjabba6 8 років тому +16

      I kinda understand it just because the Joker had never really been portrayed as actually insane before, like Jack Nickelson and Caesar Romero both gave them a kind of gangster/trickster thing so the critics probably just weren't expecting it and didn't know what to think of it. I mean of course Hamill is one of my favorite Jokers if not my absolute favorite, I'm just saying I think I can see why they didn't like it

    • @YuShawStang
      @YuShawStang 8 років тому +1

      That is how critics do for living, finding flaw so I would say it's just a neat picking; the anime is perfect, if the critics could compare with some mediocre super hero film.

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 8 років тому +1

      s2crmbhh but they made fun of the legend Hamil be it when he wasn't a legend

    • @LightFromADeadStar
      @LightFromADeadStar 8 років тому +1

      he is so wrong

  • @drzerogi
    @drzerogi 4 роки тому +5

    You guys are so hung up on Siskel's dislike of the Joker's voice, then you missed the real elephant in the room:
    0:24 Siskel liked Batman Forever?

    • @007Julie
      @007Julie 3 роки тому

      The cheesy 90’s Batman films are way entertaining than the Zack Snyder movies, they don’t take it too seriously and we know we shouldn’t either. Batman, Batman Returns and Batman Forever > BvS and Justice League.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 3 роки тому +1

      @@007Julie BvS is just an extended trailer for Justice League.

  • @folgore1
    @folgore1 2 роки тому +4

    I really miss Ebert & Siskel's movie reviews. I first began to watch them when I was in high school and they had a show on PBS. They then had a show in syndication which lasted for quite a while until Siskel passed away. RIP guys.

  • @dhyde2025
    @dhyde2025 9 років тому +22

    One does not simply, not like Mark Hamill's joker.

  • @comixgod50
    @comixgod50 10 років тому +13

    Wish DC animated films would get more recognition like this. And I totally laughed at the part where he said the Joker voice was horrible which is so funny becuz it's the hailed as the best interpretation.

  • @Harri927
    @Harri927 6 років тому +8

    This is my favorite animated movie of all time, I loved it since it appeared during my childhood and I'm really gonna say it...... It's really a masterpiece.

    • @Victory-in-YAHSHUA
      @Victory-in-YAHSHUA 4 роки тому

      I completely agree. Only a couple of Studio Ghibli films are better than this masterpiece.

  • @NinjaOfBritan
    @NinjaOfBritan 11 років тому +5

    Guys, if they don't like Hamill's voice, it's fine. Seriously, calm down. I love Hamill as much as the next person but if someone else doesn't, it's okay.

  • @garr123
    @garr123 9 років тому +26

    Oh, Gene, I miss you, but Hammil is the joker's voice and will be for a very long time.

  • @MysteryHipster
    @MysteryHipster 8 років тому +6

    Mark Hamill will always be my favorite Joker. He simply gave a flawless performance and love for the role.

  • @SakuraAvalon
    @SakuraAvalon 12 років тому +5

    "Cesar Romero on the cartoon show"
    What? I could've sworn that the 60's Batman show was live action...

  • @RetroMaticGamer
    @RetroMaticGamer 6 років тому +3

    "I don't like this joker's voice."
    25 years later: "this Joker's voice" is now the standard ALL other Joker portrayals are compared to. GOTCHA BITCH!

  • @lehah4333
    @lehah4333 16 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for uploading this. Its been years since I've seen this.

  • @CrimsonDusk
    @CrimsonDusk 15 років тому +2

    One of the greatest movie of the Batman franchise up to par with the Dark Knight. What blows my mind is this is the first time I heard Siskel praise a movie for being bold on using animation than Live action. As I remember he was very critical with Toy Story and FF Spirits With in but to this movie he was very pleased and that makes me miss a critic such as him.

  • @Tobias2789
    @Tobias2789 10 років тому +36

    Glad it's not just me who takes it a lil personal when he mentions Mark Hamill as the Joker

    • @bmla88
      @bmla88 4 роки тому

      DangerRanger why would you or anyone else take something like that personal? Your name isn’t mark hamill and it wasn’t a criticism about you?

  • @jonahdrake5885
    @jonahdrake5885 10 років тому +11

    This film really is under appreciated. It achieved both the perfect look and atmosphere for Batman, and an intelligent story nearly a decade before the Nolan films were ever introduced.

    • @Angyali
      @Angyali 8 років тому +1

      This movie was one of the major influences for Nolan and his team.

  • @Bauglir100
    @Bauglir100 4 роки тому +2

    Forget Siskel not liking Mark Hamill's Joker, is nobody else going to point out that he said Cesar Romero was the Joker in the cartoon show? He was the Joker in the live-action TV series from the 1960s, but not any of the cartoons.

  • @JoeMomma81
    @JoeMomma81 11 років тому +2

    LMFAO Hamil's voice is the definitive Joker now

  • @brandontachiera2504
    @brandontachiera2504 10 років тому +16

    Didn't like Mark's joker voice? What? Whatever,opinions,I guess.

  • @ricardocantoral7672
    @ricardocantoral7672 10 років тому +34

    I don't care what anyone says, this is the best Batman film, period. Burton, Schumacher, Nolan, they never got the character like this film.

    • @CatMaster90001
      @CatMaster90001 9 років тому +3

      ... You kinda do have a point. As legendary a masterpiece as The Dark Knight is, the Nolan saga never really got the Batman character exactly right. Some people claim Michael Keaton is the ideal cinematic Batman, but I think there's just a very slight plainness to him that holds him back from his full potential... either that, or the awkward costume that limits mobility, especially around the neck. At this point, the Kevin Conroy animated incarnation of Batman remains the greatest rendition of the character to this day.
      Your move, Ben Affleck. Don't disappoint us.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 9 років тому +1

      The dark knight doesn't even come close to a masterpiece to me. The film is over inflated by it's own self importance and much of the dialogue serves no other purpose than to re-enforce the obvious. The action set pieces are impressive but they are there to distract from the sloppy writing. The entire sequence in Hong Kong was nothing but filler and the film could have ended in at least three different places.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 9 років тому +2

      As for Micheal Keaton, he was quitely intense in the role. Kevin Conroy did it best. I am not bothering with Batman vs. Superman because I am sick of the aping of frank miller's batman.

    • @CatMaster90001
      @CatMaster90001 9 років тому

      Ricardo Cantoral ... Interesting opinion there. Still, I have yet to see an actually logical argument against Heath Ledger's performance of the Joker. Definitely one of the greatest Joker portrayals ever, if not the defining Joker.
      I wouldn't be so harsh with Batman v. Superman, though. Just because the designs are based on Frank Miller's Batman doesn't mean it's going to be a direct adaptation. Lex Luthor certainly wasn't the CEO of fucking facebook in The Dark Knight Returns, was he? Plus, another key difference is that in Returns, Superman is already as well-known as Batman is. In the Snyderverse (yes, that's a term now), Superman has just now emerged and is the hottest topic among the populace, just while it so happens that Batman is growing pretty seasoned from his crimefighting work.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 9 років тому

      Ledger's performance was great, his mannerisms, his voice, he became his character. The writing for his character however, that was what I had issue with. His tiresome oratory about society and being the "agent of chaos" betrayed his character. He shouldn't give a shit about the world, he should simply enjoy kill people and delight in engaging Batman. Secondly, his efficiency was beyond ridiculous. He knew where everyone was at any given time and the timing of his traps were far too precise to be the least bit plausible. Yeah, you can call it "nitpicking" I suppose but guess what ? Nolan's film invites that kind of criticism. He wants to make his film the social commentary of the century and yet he wants to get away with making a warmed over Heat/Speed rip off.
      As for Superman and Synder, it was a match made in hell. Man of Steel was TERRIBLE. I am skipping Bats vs. Supes. I don't care about the casting, as long as the Synder/Nolan camp is in charge, I will never watch another Dc film again.

  • @Ninngik
    @Ninngik 12 років тому +2

    That voice almost changed how dark the character could be on tv/film, and I love it!

  • @bigoldinosaur
    @bigoldinosaur 8 років тому +128

    I am here because of the Nostalgia Critic. Anyone else?

  • @Decetop
    @Decetop 5 років тому +7

    I don’t think Hamill’s Joker being incredible is set in stone, personally. Dare I say, it’s a bit over the top, and is more cartoonish than sinister (the reason I prefer Nicholson and Ledger). But some people will say that’s what they prefer in a Joker, and I can respect that.

    • @MidnightIsolde
      @MidnightIsolde 3 роки тому

      I agree with that. I thought that he doesn't quite suit the Joker in The Killing Joke for example. Because in that the Joker comes across as sad, kind of vulnerable at points, pathetic, etc and I think Hammill is generally too melodramatic and bombastic for this. Tbh I've heard fan made voice readings of the novel, which I liked better. He was perfect in the flashback scenes though. I actually really like Jeff Bennett tbh

    • @christophmatthews4313
      @christophmatthews4313 2 роки тому

      The animated Joker’s voice is too….cartoonish. Right.

  • @trumanharwood8755
    @trumanharwood8755 8 років тому +5

    Love these 2!!!! :) I honestly am surprised that Siskel didn't like Hamill

  • @steelersguy74
    @steelersguy74 5 років тому +1

    “Try renting this” holy fuck, I’m old!

  • @detubeme
    @detubeme 12 років тому +1

    gotta love the Phantasm's portable fog machine. even works while sprinting

  • @joseph18352
    @joseph18352 10 років тому +12

    Mark hammil is the joker!

  • @johnsmith651
    @johnsmith651 8 років тому +12

    I hope before he died, someone introduced Siskel to the Batman animated series

    • @titusmccarthy
      @titusmccarthy 8 років тому +2

      He was a pompous elitist who loved movies and only movies.

    • @mmmfloorpie
      @mmmfloorpie 7 років тому +2

      Titus McCarthy He liked the animated TV show The Critic.

    • @titusmccarthy
      @titusmccarthy 7 років тому

      That's because he was in it and it was basically a spoof on Siskel & Ebert.

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 7 років тому

      And they talked about it on the show in 1994.

  • @KaoticReach1999
    @KaoticReach1999 6 місяців тому

    There's something kinda wholesome that Siskel was such a big fan of Jokers played by Jack etc that he couldn't see the brilliance of Mark, the iconic animated Joker
    He was a fanboy like so many of us

  • @nicbaker9690
    @nicbaker9690 10 місяців тому +2

    Two thumbs up 👍👍for my favorite Batman movie
    Batman mask of the phantasm.

  • @hankforeman91
    @hankforeman91 Рік тому +3

    RIP Kevin Conroy

  • @malemonkley
    @malemonkley 8 років тому +15

    Laser-disc HA!

  • @lars7282
    @lars7282 2 роки тому

    I like imagining Gene had a „booming surround sound system“ at home ☺️

  • @user-dr2yz8um3d
    @user-dr2yz8um3d 8 місяців тому

    Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is 30 years old
    One of my all-time favorite childhood flicks!
    this is the first solid entry in a long line of straight to video Batman films
    The animation matches the tv show looking like the 1940s artwork art style, it has spectacular and suspenseful action sequences, great sound design to make it massive, the voice acting is pretty spot-on, it's perfectly dark and brooding for the main character, and is way more mature than you'd think
    The Phantasm himself makes for a scary, intimidating and enigmatic new adversary
    It could be anybody as he moves in and out without leaving a trace
    The score by Shirley Walker is wonderfully epic mainly with the choir singing mixed in
    It's also a wonderful reinterpretation of the origin story so it's not just a silly animated movie for kids
    Plus the mystery is one for them to solve on their own simultaneously being more adult than actual grown up Batman movies
    Bruce Wayne is torn between becoming a vigilante for others and choosing a life of love and happiness but at the cost of making someone worry all the time
    Who knows what the future holds?, what will vengeance solve, it blackens the soul and some fall into that pit sadly nobody can save them, being more controlled by our parents is still a commonality whether we admit it or not
    Sadly the film itself was a box office disappointment despite the really good reviews, partially because it was in the shadow of the recent live action film by Burton then Joel Schumacher
    But the movie dove into the dark gothic tone the character was known for being that no matter how hard he tries his destiny will always come calling to him
    He always has to make the tough choices even if it involves heartbreak wearing his heart on his sleeve
    It's all about the hopefulness meets the dark reality that always looms over
    Still one individual in Bruce's past was vital in shaping who he becomes being an extension of his beginnings
    I'm happy this managed to gain a dedicated following among fans over the years with staying close to Batman's roots soothing the shattered psyche
    'Mask of the Phantasm' is intense, adventurous, well-structured, and is a decent thriller despite being only 77 min long

  • @KAR5AVATARGT
    @KAR5AVATARGT 9 років тому +6

    Wen batman jumped off the batwing to tackle and confront phantasm I still get goosebumps lol best moment of the film but seriously stfu hamil is the best joker of all time especially his laugh at the end people under rate cartoons in my opinion cartoons are better than reality shows and this movie is proof of that thank u bruce timm for an awesome childhood

    • @HollowGolem
      @HollowGolem 8 років тому

      +KAR5AVATARGT Nah, best moment of the film was the scene where he was drawing the cowl, considered giving up, and went to the graveyard to apologize to his parents.
      That whole sequence was a spectacular in on the Bruce Wayne psychoses.

  • @DementedDistraction
    @DementedDistraction 8 років тому +3

    Wow...
    I loved Romero and Nickelson, but Siskel was sooooo off-base with his assessment of the Joker.

  • @jennifersman7990
    @jennifersman7990 9 місяців тому

    Wow, I miss these guys so much! The way they talked about films (no matter the genre) always sparked my curiosity and I learned so much in the process

    • @tobe1207
      @tobe1207 6 місяців тому

      Even when they disliked something they hsd a reasonable reason. They critiqued films because they loved a good film..thats what critics are missing now, and everybody is a critic

  • @LPfanatic102
    @LPfanatic102 15 років тому +1

    Mark Hamill's depiction of the Joker is awesome Siskel.

  • @RopeDrink
    @RopeDrink 7 років тому +3

    I admit - I stopped the video at "Didn't like the Joker's voice". Granted, I'm all for everyone having their own taste & opinion but... Well... It's Mark Hamil's Joker... THE Joker...

  • @SuperSuck64
    @SuperSuck64 8 років тому +4

    Wonder if there were any other movies they reviewed after they ran in theaters?
    And I also disagree with Siskel on Hamill's Joker, but sheesh, calm down, guys.

    • @carllipsey1497
      @carllipsey1497 8 років тому

      I'll be calm everyone has there idea of howthe joker sounds I personally love Hamil and Nicholson equally

  • @FlyingFocs
    @FlyingFocs 12 років тому +1

    Roger Ebert's opinion on animation not being limited strictly for children... yes. Dude, just yes.

  • @lamecasuelas2
    @lamecasuelas2 11 років тому +1

    i just remembered how much do i love this picture, i'm watching it right now

  • @caperdoodle
    @caperdoodle 14 років тому +2

    My friend got to interview Mark, and got to talk to him on "Talk Geek"

  • @StudioInkblot
    @StudioInkblot 11 років тому +1

    He was famously the best Joker voice ever.

  • @grkpektis
    @grkpektis Рік тому +1

    I love this movie, Even the title is genius. Bruce Wayne is the real mask Batman wears, just like Andrea is the real mask the Phantasm wears

  • @alexandreberiault6425
    @alexandreberiault6425 2 роки тому +1

    If Siskel and Ebert treat animation seriously, why can't the Oscars?

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT 10 років тому +1

    Hell yes, really pleased they could appreciate this. My favorite Batman movie to this day.

  • @pip5528
    @pip5528 5 років тому +2

    This is the beauty of listening to clever critics like Siskel. He has the unpopular opinion that Mark Hamill's joker is terrible. I myself consider Hamill to be the best Joker ever and he is my favorite.

  • @tjstuff1
    @tjstuff1  15 років тому +1

    While I agree that he is wrong about Mark Hamill's Joker. What is important about this review is how favorable they are too it and how it made Roger Ebert realize that animation is not just for kids. He did a lot on their show after that to raise awareness about animation as an art form.

  • @Klubeman
    @Klubeman 15 років тому +1

    everyone laughs when i tell them this is one of my favorite movies. i'm so glad siskel and ebert are on my side!

  • @TheChrisHype
    @TheChrisHype Рік тому +1

    “I wish Warner Bros would produce more features from this animation team.”
    Gene, m’dude, if you only knew what was to come…

  • @justwant2lisen2music
    @justwant2lisen2music 12 років тому +2

    when I saw this movie I was speachless this deserves a 1000/10

  • @samuraispiritsx
    @samuraispiritsx Рік тому

    Animation has taken over as best medium for telling a story in modern time. This movie and show were hella ahead of its time.

  • @muckymucks
    @muckymucks 11 років тому +2

    Every time I see one of these old reviews Ebert is saying something about the future that's true today. The same team that did Mask of the Phantasm did a bunch of movies in later years, most recently The Dark Knight Returns. Though, Siskel not liking Joker's voice? C;mon, that's Mark Hamill you're talking about--he is the Joker!

  • @Andrew_Franklin
    @Andrew_Franklin Рік тому

    Siskel saying, "I don't like this Joker's voice" about Hamill's Joker lmao

  • @wd3185
    @wd3185 Рік тому

    I will forever admire Ebert and Siskel for being way ahead of the game in recognizing animation as an art and not "just for kids."

  • @uncensorer
    @uncensorer 5 років тому +1

    Siskel says, "but it's available on tape and disc. I watched it at home on laserdisc"
    Then Ebert says, "the day is coming, and it's happening with the Disney pictures, that adults are realizing that animation is not limited to entertainment form for children."
    One of these sentences screams 1980's, and the other one pretty much predicted South Park.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 4 роки тому +1

      There was adult animation long before South Park. Look up pre code cartoons from the 1930s.

  • @TheCoolShades
    @TheCoolShades 12 років тому +1

    Can't wait to get this on Laser Disc

  • @AlexMaskill
    @AlexMaskill 14 років тому +1

    This scared the crap out of me as a kid. Awesome film.

  • @CrashLanden
    @CrashLanden 4 роки тому +1

    1:07 Thank you Gene Siskel. Thank you.

  • @krisscanlon4051
    @krisscanlon4051 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent S and E...good review

  • @Saisinkolimonadin
    @Saisinkolimonadin 15 років тому +2

    It's a shame people always tend to forget Mark Hamill's Joker. It's an amazing performance and criminally underrated.

    • @Fridge_Fiend
      @Fridge_Fiend Рік тому

      I know this is 13 years old but Hamils is the most famous joker now, I guess Arkham games did a lot for that

  • @berserkley
    @berserkley Рік тому +1

    they forgot to mention Shirley Walker's outstanding score.

  • @mrarizona7947
    @mrarizona7947 5 років тому +2

    I'm surprised, they never gave good reviews to any good movie or animated back then. They liked foreign movies mostly. You know it's damn good when they like it and it's one of my favorites 👍I agree first time I heard Mark as joker I didn't like him as the voice but it took time for me to like him and I mean animated series and phantasm movie, and now Mark is the ONLY and best joker voice like Kevin is BEST Batman voice still in my opinion. Others have been good over the years and well done.

  • @Tolinar
    @Tolinar 6 місяців тому

    This review was the turning point that led to the Animated Pivot.

  • @Lalatina99
    @Lalatina99 3 роки тому

    We grew up with this Batman and Joker. At the time though older people had seen and grown accustomed to a certain style of the Joker. It’s understandable he might not like Hamill’s voice since it wasn’t what they were used to or expected, especially since Nicholson portrayed a great version of him too right before Hamill’s.
    Looking back at them all, it’s clear Hamill’s voice stood the test of time though, and is *the* voice of the Joker for many people. (Myself included!)
    Take Ledger’s version, the opposite of Jack Nicholson’s Joker which was also called the greatest depiction of the character at the time. He is certainly iconic, but there was no punchline to his madness. (It’s still a fantastic take on the character, and full of philosophy though) Sure it’s gritty realism taken to the extreme, but the joker is a showman above all else. He dances on the line of the 4th wall because all of his antics are done for an audience that isn’t present in the show. To us he’s funny on the surface; to the characters in the show though he is terrifying. Their fear juxtaposed to our laughter is what the idea of the Joker represents imo, and no other actor has been able to portray that better than Mark Hamill.

  • @janiedoe1542
    @janiedoe1542 10 років тому

    R.I.P Gene Siskel & Roger Ebert.
    TV Movie Critics Never Die.

  • @distr0ia
    @distr0ia 16 років тому +1

    damn, for real? I was surprised to see them review this, but I'm definitely convinced. I'm just gonna have to buy this now
    P.S. the Animated Series Joker is the man, the show wouldn't have been as phenomenal without him, just my opinion; I still respect Ebert & Siskel and it was very, VERY heartwarming to hear their positive views on the values and advantages of hand-drawn animation...views that I whole-heartedly share

  • @sonicman2500
    @sonicman2500 13 років тому

    My dad got it on VHS and saw it a million times as a kid :)

  • @EctoFilms
    @EctoFilms 14 років тому +1

    I friggin love this version of the Joker and his voice, absolute CLASSIC

  • @blondiemancojoe1066
    @blondiemancojoe1066 8 місяців тому

    Bro that is what jokers voice is exactly should be like totally hear his voice when reading comics.