John Danaher describing what he considers to be the main problem with wristlocks. From Roger Gracie's interview with John Danaher Source : • Roger Gracie & John Da...
0:30 - "The lock you select is based around how much control do you have prior to the lock. The lock is just the full stop at the end of a sentence. It's the sentence that counts. And that sentence is Control." - John Danaher
I like the mounted gift wrap wrist lock, or the omoplata wrist lock when you got a roller. Half guard wrist locks are also pretty dope. Be sure to pin down your opponent's arm with a shin right above the side of the elbow closest to the wrist. I get these couple wrist locks pretty often.
I use the wrist lock when I have the person trapped in Kesa gatame. If the arm bar does not work, I gently fold the wrist. I have gotten dozens of taps from doing that. I have total control at that point, so it is not dangerous for my rolling buddy.
true.. in the past ive escorted people out of bars with wrist locks. started with arm control and due to one of many factors ( crowded place, obsticals such as chairs tables, people trying to get me off the person) ive lost the complete control of the arm but was presented with the wrist so took that to complete the journey to the exit. very VERY rarely can you get a wrist lock from the get go, the person has to be very drunk or dumb.
The entire art of jiu jitsu is about gaining a mechanical advantage via positioning. The fact of the matter is no matter how you hold it the hand or fist does not create a very long lever. This means it's much closer to a 1/1 contest of strength than almost any other form of submission.
Idk. Wrists are very weak. I understand what your saying as far as the size of the lever, but its definitely not a 1/1 strength fight. Of course im not talking about standing aikido wrist locks.... those are ridiculous. But a lot of time youre using your chest and body weight to fold back someones wrist which is really weak to begin with.
Can’t think of many wrist locks that can be successfully applied from a position where you have a lack of control. Your opponents elbow has to be completely trapped from retreating or moving laterally and obviously as an extension of that so does their body if its being used as a wedge behind their elbow
I've consistently wristlocked to defend from guillotines (both hands at "hanging" wrist) or lapel chokes from my back (hammer lock grip). Even when it 'fails' its because opponent/partner abandon the attack to avoid the submission and I open space for guard retention, so its a win-win anyway
FINALLY! Someone explains wristlocks properly 👏👏👏👏👏 In a real grapple/fight (no gloves), certain wristlocks can DESTROY a person's hand...but you need to have mastered the variations.
Triangle must be the best controlling position for wristlocks, but I learned from Travis Stevens a sort of figure 4 control over the opponent’s arm especially for waiter wristlocks…very effective….
I would be interested in working towards a wrist lock from a standing grappling position such as an overhook on one arm where you turn your hips away from your opponent with your leg behind theirs. If they refuse to go to the ground you have control and may be able to work towards a wrist lock from there.
In my experience in crowd controlling if you dont get a wristlock on someone before they start struggling against it, it becomes very difficult to apply it but if you can get it to that locked point before they realise then its very hard for them to get out of it especially if you have their elbow against your body
Yeah aikido moves and such seem like pre-fighting moves. Moves to do before it’s a full on fight when you want to end the confrontation quickly. And also stuff you use against people you don’t really want to hurt like friends or family who are getting rowdy.
I want him to explain why Gaethje pulled his arm out from between Khabib's legs instead of driving it further to protect himself from the armbar and the triangle. I mean... wanna talk about control? Khabib didn't have him in lockdown and had no control over his legs to keep him from just diving right through. he had a hand kind of on Gaethje's right leg, but he needed to get an ankle for it to actually do anything. that or illegally grab Justin's shorts. Thoughts, Mr. Danaher?
Fun fact = Wristlocks were designed for pre-fight self-defense scenarios, like if the attacker grabs your shirt for threatening and you know for a fact where the attackers hands are. Same reason wristlocks barely will work in combat sports.
dear Mr Danaher, if you have broke down body movement / mechanics in opp, and you advane in joint control, f ex ellbow and schoulder, than there is just about always a wrist lock available somewhere Plus another neglected aspect of wrist locks are the opponents structure can be broken down (for examble standing or keeing wrist lock to guard pass) and manipulated, and if you chain your techniques up well, can give you a great advantage in a fight third aspect Danahar is missing, is that there wristlock traps, that work as counter sumissions. You bait a grappler into a comomon move, that usually is very effective, and have a wrist lock trap witing (for example bait an opp into attacking with a gilloutin,e, block his hand with your chin on the way through, control the same ellbow with both hands, squeeze.....and voila, instant fight ender respect from norway, and please keep the great videos cumming
hapkido wrist locks are very effective, usually involve some mechanism of locking the opponents arm into place for control. Nearly everywhere that arm bars, kimura, or general ude garami positions are available, you have wrist locks. They are just considered to be dirty... most people rely on their hands for work. I rarely apply them, even when given a clear opportunity.
There is no such thing as “Hapkido wrist locks”. The wrist can only be locked in so many ways and almost every martial arts does them. It still comes down to what Danahar says about prior control.
Wrist out throws are effective if you’ve been grabbed. The thing I like is you don’t have to go to the ground if you’ve been attacked on the street or in a bar… now imagine you’re at the pub or on the street and you attempt an arm bar or a takedown…. forget it, you are going to get soccer kicked by onlookers to the back of your head and ribs. BJJ is effective in the cage but not with multiple attackers.
some good pvery time your opp pushes you with their hans / palmoints but not all submissions (or finishing moves) rely on great control prior to the move,...like countering a shot with a gilloutine, or a wristlock . a countermove is often very possible without any much prior control of the situation, and dont get why this concept should not be legit in grappling / bjj !?!...............................a hand as a target will always be there in a grappling match, since your opp wants to grap you.....its not wise to neglect that point
@@piotrdygas5345 High risk of injury in training to break fingers. There was an ancient olympian whose signature move was the finger break, if I remember right the guy was champ 5yrs running. He wouldn't stand a chance against a polished grappling system. I'd put ankle picks up there too. Even more dangerous than wrist manipulation. Saw a guy get his ankle ripped in a army combatives room by some kid working way beyond his level. I was getting great free BJJ instruction too but they shut us down after that. F that ankle pickin mfer
From a sport aspect? Yes. From a self-defense aspect, no. It depends why you're training. That being said. I can't imagine doing anything other than a back take and RNC in a self-defense situation...
Danaher is wrong. His context when thinking of wristlocks leaves out their true value. Every arm-bar, kimura, americana, omoplata - from mount, side, northsouth and many times from the bottom too - is a wristlock opportunity. It attacks grips that defend other submission, so if you're not getting the wrist you get the elbow or shoulder and you do not compromise positional control for them. Getting better at wristlocking means getting more shoulder, elbow AND wrist-locks. It funnels reactions and so and on. Why disregard 1% of the human body?
As a fellow New Zealand - I think he's back home in our shitty non-climate controlled houses, which is why he needs to wear all those clothes in doors.
Representing Ganryu aikijujutsu I would wager that ther original combat reliance on Japanese fancy locks were not any 9f these but rather to cause broken wrists. Broken wrists cannot hold katana and tachi nor shoot a bow and arrow. Over 30 years of experience with combat arts and real life applications working for private contractors and federal gov.
Wrist lock are for coward , it's a dirty move , you never see it in MMA , cause it doesn't work and the guy will get punch I found them so useless and dirty
0:30 - "The lock you select is based around how much control do you have prior to the lock. The lock is just the full stop at the end of a sentence. It's the sentence that counts. And that sentence is Control." - John Danaher
@@johncharnley2877 Danaher Diaries might interest you
why quote what we've just heard?
@@mrt445 Because people do that shit on UA-cam.
@@mrt445 because they can.
@@roebuckmckinney it's weird, and doesn't makes sense. I only do it for pointless likes
Samuel.L.danaher
😂 Can't unsee it
Hahahahahahhaa fucking GOLD
Now that’s funny !
was just about to say man, its the white shaft
frfr
That’s a weird rash guard Danaher has on.
Underneath the coat deffinatly a rash guard
It's a leather gi lol
@@frozencloudzzful 100%. I was going to say the same thing. He ever wore a rashguard to a friend's wedding.
It's a rash guard made of dried animal skin.
@Bag Stud Yup :) www.bjjee.com/articles/john-danaher-answers-common-question-wear-rashguard-even-wedding/
Now Samuel L Jackson has played EVERY role!
ROFL stop, you're killing me
I'm dead already! White face!
That's actually too funny 😂
Lol, bruh!!!
jesus christ i hollered
John ignores 99% of the human wardrobe
You made my day sir 🤣
lol
Why would you ignore 1% of the human body?
Underrated comment
Haha..much appreciated!
lmao
Tiny hands = Big pp
That 1% is the thing you use for 99.99999% of all attacks...so actually, that was a naive comment. No disrespect.
Danaher out here looking like he just escaped from 1996
Sick burn!
0:54
Next year: Gordon Ryan wins adcc with wrist lock based game
Danaher even goes stealth on zoom, rash guard hiding underneath in case virtual meeting converts to physical
These comments are superb. Came for the video stayed for the comments.
😄😄😄😄😄
Ive never seen Danaher so dressed down before lol
Is that a rashguard underneath? He's said a few times that he always wears one.
You know damn well he’s got that rash guard and spats under that leather 😂
I've never ever seen him not in a rash guard until now
Is he mockin Seagal? Hahah
That’s his evil twin brother
who clicked on this video to see danaher wearing that hat and jacket?
Danaher looks like a sax player on a late nite show...
I've never seen a leather rashguard before?
Danaher is dressed like a chef at a TGI Friday’s.
"you look like the first guy to die in a steven seagal movie"
-bill burr
Wears Rashguard visiting people, wears normal clothes at home by himself.
Appreciate what you’re doing with your channel bro. All these short clips are great even though I’ve seen half the stuff before. Keep it up man!
John looks like every bad guy in 90 action movie
90 action movie
90 action movie
You know he's got a rash guard on under that leather jacket 🤣
Very well said and intelligently put description of how joint locks are supposed to work.
Enlightening as always
Comments are Killin on this one.
I opt for flying wristlocks.
I like the mounted gift wrap wrist lock, or the omoplata wrist lock when you got a roller. Half guard wrist locks are also pretty dope. Be sure to pin down your opponent's arm with a shin right above the side of the elbow closest to the wrist. I get these couple wrist locks pretty often.
Mounted gift wrap wrist lock is an evil idea. I love it.
I never thought about doing a wristlock from the gift wrap... it's predictable to defend which opens up other avenues.
Samuel L. Danaher
or
Johnuel L. Danackson
Without his shiny head to distract me Danaher is even more terrifying.
John Danaher has clothes other than rash guards? Who knew?
Practical purposes... He might very well be wearing a rashguard under this jacket...
not just triangles. You can apply wristlocks in armbars as well.
I use the wrist lock when I have the person trapped in Kesa gatame. If the arm bar does not work, I gently fold the wrist. I have gotten dozens of taps from doing that. I have total control at that point, so it is not dangerous for my rolling buddy.
Danaher looking like hes with the black panthers lpl
true.. in the past ive escorted people out of bars with wrist locks. started with arm control and due to one of many factors ( crowded place, obsticals such as chairs tables, people trying to get me off the person) ive lost the complete control of the arm but was presented with the wrist so took that to complete the journey to the exit. very VERY rarely can you get a wrist lock from the get go, the person has to be very drunk or dumb.
The entire art of jiu jitsu is about gaining a mechanical advantage via positioning. The fact of the matter is no matter how you hold it the hand or fist does not create a very long lever. This means it's much closer to a 1/1 contest of strength than almost any other form of submission.
Idk. Wrists are very weak. I understand what your saying as far as the size of the lever, but its definitely not a 1/1 strength fight. Of course im not talking about standing aikido wrist locks.... those are ridiculous. But a lot of time youre using your chest and body weight to fold back someones wrist which is really weak to begin with.
Wrist locks are money in side control, mount, gift wrap. Never a one size fits all
Thank you
Wrist locks are also great from omoplata as you have a lot of control
Coach brian has a pretty well controlled wrist lock off a reversed kimura from guard. Its a follow up move tho
Oh that's great, he said what I was thinking the whole time. They are good from the triangle.
Can’t think of many wrist locks that can be successfully applied from a position where you have a lack of control. Your opponents elbow has to be completely trapped from retreating or moving laterally and obviously as an extension of that so does their body if its being used as a wedge behind their elbow
I've consistently wristlocked to defend from guillotines (both hands at "hanging" wrist) or lapel chokes from my back (hammer lock grip). Even when it 'fails' its because opponent/partner abandon the attack to avoid the submission and I open space for guard retention, so its a win-win anyway
FINALLY! Someone explains wristlocks properly 👏👏👏👏👏 In a real grapple/fight (no gloves), certain wristlocks can DESTROY a person's hand...but you need to have mastered the variations.
Great for setups to get reactions.
John please tell me your not wearing track pants without a rash guard.
Triangle must be the best controlling position for wristlocks, but I learned from Travis Stevens a sort of figure 4 control over the opponent’s arm especially for waiter wristlocks…very effective….
'Hi I'm date john, pleased to meet me'
Is that a rushguard under that jacked?
Is he wearing a leather rash guard with a collar?
I would be interested in working towards a wrist lock from a standing grappling position such as an overhook on one arm where you turn your hips away from your opponent with your leg behind theirs. If they refuse to go to the ground you have control and may be able to work towards a wrist lock from there.
I feel pretty in control when I set up and sink a wristlock.
You know Johnny D dressed up for his crush and self proclaimed favorite jits fighter.
In my experience in crowd controlling if you dont get a wristlock on someone before they start struggling against it, it becomes very difficult to apply it but if you can get it to that locked point before they realise then its very hard for them to get out of it especially if you have their elbow against your body
Yeah aikido moves and such seem like pre-fighting moves. Moves to do before it’s a full on fight when you want to end the confrontation quickly. And also stuff you use against people you don’t really want to hurt like friends or family who are getting rowdy.
I want him to explain why Gaethje pulled his arm out from between Khabib's legs instead of driving it further to protect himself from the armbar and the triangle. I mean... wanna talk about control? Khabib didn't have him in lockdown and had no control over his legs to keep him from just diving right through. he had a hand kind of on Gaethje's right leg, but he needed to get an ankle for it to actually do anything. that or illegally grab Justin's shorts. Thoughts, Mr. Danaher?
this the first time i seen John without a rash guard
Fun fact = Wristlocks were designed for pre-fight self-defense scenarios, like if the attacker grabs your shirt for threatening and you know for a fact where the attackers hands are. Same reason wristlocks barely will work in combat sports.
Techniques aren't buildings or jackets, nobody designs them.
dear Mr Danaher, if you have broke down body movement / mechanics in opp, and you advane in joint control, f ex ellbow and schoulder, than there is just about always a wrist lock available somewhere
Plus another neglected aspect of wrist locks are the opponents structure can be broken down (for examble standing or keeing wrist lock to guard pass) and manipulated, and if you chain your techniques up well, can give you a great advantage in a fight
third aspect Danahar is missing, is that there wristlock traps, that work as counter sumissions. You bait a grappler into a comomon move, that usually is very effective, and have a wrist lock trap witing (for example bait an opp into attacking with a gilloutin,e, block his hand with your chin on the way through, control the same ellbow with both hands, squeeze.....and voila, instant fight ender
respect from norway, and please keep the great videos cumming
Danaher is crazy good
John is off to a biker themed, French murder mystery night after this
It must be an imposter.
hapkido wrist locks are very effective, usually involve some mechanism of locking the opponents arm into place for control. Nearly everywhere that arm bars, kimura, or general ude garami positions are available, you have wrist locks. They are just considered to be dirty... most people rely on their hands for work. I rarely apply them, even when given a clear opportunity.
This, i feel as tho they are in poor taste when rolling. the potential to damage someone wrist on accident is very high.
There is no such thing as “Hapkido wrist locks”. The wrist can only be locked in so many ways and almost every martial arts does them. It still comes down to what Danahar says about prior control.
@@clacicle "...wristlocks learned in hapkido...", that better?
@@hajikelist or just “wrist locks”.
@@andrewdouyon1098 all locks are fair play,neck locks probably the most risky.
First time I’ve ever seen danaher with a rash guard. They are comfortable though
Heading out for his side job ie Bouncher .
Wrist out throws are effective if you’ve been grabbed. The thing I like is you don’t have to go to the ground if you’ve been attacked on the street or in a bar… now imagine you’re at the pub or on the street and you attempt an arm bar or a takedown…. forget it, you are going to get soccer kicked by onlookers to the back of your head and ribs. BJJ is effective in the cage but not with multiple attackers.
Gotta get me a leather rash guard
Someone is in trouble for forgetting to wash his rash guards.
is he wearing a rash guard under his jacket lol
There’s a rash guard under that jacket
Mandatory Danaher rash guard..
So anyone got a tangled wrists tutorial, asking for my friend Satan.
Yeah everyone talks about lockems. But who teaches?
@@healthyandrew5294 People from the underworld.
Danaher Looking like samuel L Jackson wearing a rash guard under his jacket
man got a rash guard on, adidas sweat pants and a leather jacket Jesus the drip
Everyone knows that’s not the real Danaher, he’s not wearing a rash guard.
That is not the same man
Hahahaha JD awesome
its weird seeing danaher wearing no rashguard
Who is the Brazilian guy think it starts with a c ... he was wrist locking guys in the 90s
Guys, he's clearly wearing his rash guard UNDER the leather jacket.
Max was here
Asking for an Akido friend
some good pvery time your opp pushes you with their hans / palmoints but not all submissions (or finishing moves) rely on great control prior to the move,...like countering a shot with a gilloutine, or a wristlock . a countermove is often very possible without any much prior control of the situation, and dont get why this concept should not be legit in grappling / bjj !?!...............................a hand as a target will always be there in a grappling match, since your opp wants to grap you.....its not wise to neglect that point
if you got his wrist you got his whole body
lol at the fkn kip of this guy
Lmao the first time I see John not wearing a gi or a rash guard 🤣🤣🤣I thought he would have got a rash guard under his jacket
Exactly my thought.
3:05 Just start snapping their digits. I'm yet to encounter a single human who doesn't yelp when you do that.
this guy looking like r kelly's bodyguard
he looks like a russian from the 90's standing at a subway entrance smoking a cig in the winter
He sells boosted diet pills for sure
What about ninjitsu? They have been doing wrist locks for 1000 years😂🤣
If you have ever seen a ninja he wasn't a real ninja.
Portion before submission is incomplete.
The key is:
A controlling position cometh before the submission.
There's a reason they call him Professor Danaher.
Another longwinded answer to a simple question to just sound smart.
Does any man in New York just slowly turn into one of those old guys who play dominoes in the park surrounded by pigeons?
Wristlock from omaplata is pretty effective.....
My man is dressed like George Wallace 😂😂
John about to get collar choked..
Wrist locks and toe hold locks are one step away from finger grabbing. Face “chokes” are cheap too.
Why?
@@piotrdygas5345 High risk of injury in training to break fingers. There was an ancient olympian whose signature move was the finger break, if I remember right the guy was champ 5yrs running. He wouldn't stand a chance against a polished grappling system.
I'd put ankle picks up there too. Even more dangerous than wrist manipulation. Saw a guy get his ankle ripped in a army combatives room by some kid working way beyond his level. I was getting great free BJJ instruction too but they shut us down after that. F that ankle pickin mfer
From a sport aspect? Yes. From a self-defense aspect, no. It depends why you're training.
That being said. I can't imagine doing anything other than a back take and RNC in a self-defense situation...
wrist lock are weird and dirty , and depend on which one but usually
a good punch in the nose or a good strike will cancel it
Trick is to read these comments quickly. They build, eventually the laughing cant stop.
He could have said all of that in two or three sentences! LOL
Danaher is wrong.
His context when thinking of wristlocks leaves out their true value.
Every arm-bar, kimura, americana, omoplata - from mount, side, northsouth and many times from the bottom too - is a wristlock opportunity.
It attacks grips that defend other submission, so if you're not getting the wrist you get the elbow or shoulder and you do not compromise positional control for them.
Getting better at wristlocking means getting more shoulder, elbow AND wrist-locks.
It funnels reactions and so and on.
Why disregard 1% of the human body?
bro dresses like a low level yugioh villain
As a fellow New Zealand - I think he's back home in our shitty non-climate controlled houses, which is why he needs to wear all those clothes in doors.
Representing Ganryu aikijujutsu I would wager that ther original combat reliance on Japanese fancy locks were not any 9f these but rather to cause broken wrists. Broken wrists cannot hold katana and tachi nor shoot a bow and arrow. Over 30 years of experience with combat arts and real life applications working for private contractors and federal gov.
What a joke...
Wrist lock are for coward , it's a dirty move , you never see it in MMA , cause it doesn't work and the guy will get punch
I found them so useless and dirty