The enamel is not paint so does not contain lead. It is coated watch vitreous enamel which is like a glass coating applied when the metal is heated to red hot. So safe to drink from apart from when they have been damaged and the metal has rusted. A little bit of rust probably won't do you much damage, but might taste a little unusual. This type of enamel is the same that was applied to enamel plates, mugs and general kitchenware and cookware.
Also white mugs where late war Brown were WWI and erly WWII. Aswell in WWI the lether scellington cover was used in the Estern frunt But it had a materal strap
They used to sell the 37 pattern stuff for buttons when I was a kid, everyone wanted 58 or 44 pattern (now no one wants 58 pattern!) we had tonnes of it and treated it pretty badly, wished I'd have kept it (though you're not wrong about the water bottles!).
I remember when I was in AFC in 1979......we were issued with 37 webbing to go to cadet camp at Otterburn........those water bottles leaked overnight and whe ya woke up in the middle of the night in a pup tent soaking wet and nothing to drink.......lo......suppose only use for them now is to keep paraffin in it for the Hurlock stove
I have a very nice 37 pattern water bottle with the pouch and it was un issued so its basically brand new. Though i would like to try and get my hands on an original tin mug. I have a couple of the ceramic ones though. You should generally never use ww2 stuff like water bottle gas mask and other items in re-enactments or generally use
Yeah the guy I bought it off of was a British feild officer during the war he was a kind man he offered me to swing by his home to se his ww2 pistol and rifle
I have an immaculate one with "C 15" stamped in Black on the felt. It has a brown leather harness with "30" and an arrow pointing up on the shoulder strap. The enamel appears Blue on the neck. Does anyone know any more about this ?
I have too of these in my loft. I was going to use it but after watching this, maybe not. Modern enamel is safe to boil water in and drinking from but I take it the old stuff is bad right ?
as mentioned..the ww2 patt will have the maker name and sometimes date in raised letters on the base of the bottle, under the felt, but you would have to damage the felt cover to see it.
hi mate .Not sure if you can help me on this one :) I have a green metal bottle that I assume is British looks very similar in the kidney shape BUT is a lot shorter and has a bayonet type metal cap on it . ????? is this indeed an army bottle or is it some type of civilian copy or something .One suggested it may have been a boy scout bottle ?
thanks mate I have found an article on the same type I am talking about(some one else is asking similar question) the bottle in question is the bottle far right in the photo .Some are saying it may have been an Australian version in the article . I thought it may interest you :) cheers www.warrelics.eu/forum/equipment-field-gear/post-ww1-ww2-era-aussie-water-bottle-query-125013/
just found this one on ebay looking more and more like they may inter war Aust issue :) www.ebay.com.au/itm/Green-Enamel-Australian-Inter-War-Militia-Water-Canteen-WW2-WWII-Rare/183183622761?hash=item2aa6984269:g:a4YAAOSwbE9a1kX8
The enamel is not paint so does not contain lead. It is coated watch vitreous enamel which is like a glass coating applied when the metal is heated to red hot. So safe to drink from apart from when they have been damaged and the metal has rusted. A little bit of rust probably won't do you much damage, but might taste a little unusual. This type of enamel is the same that was applied to enamel plates, mugs and general kitchenware and cookware.
thanks for the info
Interesting as usual Mr C
Might possibly get the date by doing a “rubbing “ through the felt ? Dunno just a thought
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Hi unfortunately the date is not a good striking,good idea tho
Also white mugs where late war Brown were WWI and erly WWII. Aswell in WWI the lether scellington cover was used in the Estern frunt But it had a materal strap
They used to sell the 37 pattern stuff for buttons when I was a kid, everyone wanted 58 or 44 pattern (now no one wants 58 pattern!) we had tonnes of it and treated it pretty badly, wished I'd have kept it (though you're not wrong about the water bottles!).
exactly!!!! cant give 58 patt stuff away!
yep
Ray Mears in Australia soaked his bottle in water to keep it cool.
Thanks C.J. was going to, but now I will not drink from my Water Bottle Cheers.
not recommended..
Awesome knowledge mate! nice video
Good video there was a canteen during Anglo Zulu war British had using wax which leaked.
I’ve just fond this in my loft with felt and straps (skeleton)
I remember when I was in AFC in 1979......we were issued with 37 webbing to go to cadet camp at Otterburn........those water bottles leaked overnight and whe ya woke up in the middle of the night in a pup tent soaking wet and nothing to drink.......lo......suppose only use for them now is to keep paraffin in it for the Hurlock stove
ha! a bad experience, yep, they no longer are good for their original purpose
I have a very nice 37 pattern water bottle with the pouch and it was un issued so its basically brand new. Though i would like to try and get my hands on an original tin mug. I have a couple of the ceramic ones though. You should generally never use ww2 stuff like water bottle gas mask and other items in re-enactments or generally use
the ceramic 1 pint mugs are excellent! I have had raf ones and im sure I have a 44 date army one somewhere.
Just a question, what's the difference between a world war 1 example and a world war 2 one? :)
Good video. Helped me identify the year of war. Mine does not have the cork stopper , any idea where I might find one ? Jeff
ive seen spares on the e bay, i would say make that your first point of call.
They didn't tell us that in the cadets.
I just bought one of these at a flea market today mine is in pristine conditions even though mines from 1943
Reason I can tell mine is from ww2 is because mine had the original case with the armstrap
good find,nowadays they don't often turn up at flea markets.
Yeah the guy I bought it off of was a British feild officer during the war he was a kind man he offered me to swing by his home to se his ww2 pistol and rifle
I have an immaculate one with "C 15" stamped in Black on the felt. It has a brown leather harness with "30" and an arrow pointing up on the shoulder strap. The enamel appears Blue on the neck. Does anyone know any more about this ?
could be st john ambulance
I have too of these in my loft. I was going to use it but after watching this, maybe not. Modern enamel is safe to boil water in and drinking from but I take it the old stuff is bad right ?
yes, old pre 1960s enamel items have a quantity of lead in them..same as painted toy soldiers, modern items have a different enamel process.
nice vid. what is the volume in ml or litres?
thanks. about a litre then - do you have any german ww2 bottles?
There is no diffrence between the 1908 pattern and the 37 pattern whater bottle
as mentioned..the ww2 patt will have the maker name and sometimes date in raised letters on the base of the bottle, under the felt, but you would have to damage the felt cover to see it.
hi mate .Not sure if you can help me on this one :)
I have a green metal bottle that I assume is British looks very similar in the kidney shape BUT is a lot shorter and has a bayonet type metal cap on it . ????? is this indeed an army bottle or is it some type of civilian copy or something .One suggested it may have been a boy scout bottle ?
im inclined to say boy scout copy
thanks mate I have found an article on the same type I am talking about(some one else is asking similar question) the bottle in question is the bottle far right in the photo .Some are saying it may have been an Australian version in the article . I thought it may interest you :) cheers
www.warrelics.eu/forum/equipment-field-gear/post-ww1-ww2-era-aussie-water-bottle-query-125013/
thanks
just found this one on ebay looking more and more like they may inter war Aust issue :)
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Green-Enamel-Australian-Inter-War-Militia-Water-Canteen-WW2-WWII-Rare/183183622761?hash=item2aa6984269:g:a4YAAOSwbE9a1kX8
its a good match..
How do you know so much?
I;m a minefield of useless information!!.
He reads a lot of books.