Williams men have got a hot temper on them when it comes to romantic relationships. First Dave loses it with his first two wives. Then Mason goes on the path of an incel. Now Sam is spiraling downwards too.
Hudson Herships OA it’s mostly Dave’s fault for why they’re like this even though it’s their actions but still it’s all on Dave except for Mason he went down the path of an incel because of Eric “Brady 😉” but he’s a different Person now.
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA Mason’s not like that anymore and besides he went down that whole incel thing mostly because of Eric “Brady 😉” I don’t know how Dave’s to blame for that. But I agree with you about with Sam and himself Aly.
I can see from both sides. He wants the baby, but she doesn't. This new storyline puts men in a bad light asking for a child that is also theirs. That is unfair. I get she doesnt want the child and that is her choice, but painting a man as a crazy stalker and dangerous is completely wrong of the story writers.
he wants the baby because he wants her back and he believes that the baby will bring them back together. his intentions are all wrong, no matter how much he loves zoe, a baby isn't something that will bring couples back together. he needs to back off and learn to accept that she's made her decision and that they aren't getting back together.
king chelsea. OA exactly I wish they would’ve talked about this but if she still wanted to get an abortion then it’s her body and she’s not ready to be a Mother yet, but if she kept the baby she would’ve singed the adoption papers and forged Sam’s signature.
And yet some of you guys are gonna make it out to be Zoey’s fault. You lot are either down bad or delulu. You lot are doing too much for a guy with a wonder-bread personality.
@@Followthebuzzards689 ok I agree her lack of communication skills isn’t ideal but him being a bit obsessive is not her fault. which is what my comment was referring too.
@@scarletyoung6053 OA I do and I know that may sound harsh but still she said she’s not wanting to become a Mother and if she has a miscarriage then it’s on both of them not just one of them. Cause like I said before I’ll admit he shouldn’t’ve gone off like that with his Uncle Ethan however I do wish Ethan would’ve told him sooner the moment he found out about it or Zoe considering he’s the Father. I know that sounds confusing but I’m just saying it’s both of their faults she shouldn’t blame Sam if she still has a miscarriage.
I guess out of the US it's still ok to have an abortion still. Ever since the US threw out Roe v Wade. It's harder if not possible to have an abortion . And if you have to carry the baby to full term even if you want to give the baby up for adoption if the father doesn't agree or sign his rights off. The baby will still be around.
@@ChelseyLinden it won't because after they did that they started messing with the gay community. And now transgender people have problems getting what they need because they are slowly taking their rights away. I have been fighting with my mouth over on Tiktok so much that my friend had to leave my state. People are looking at me like I'm this great person or a hero I'm not.
In the UK we don't do full-term abortions because that's murder. Abortions are available that you have to do early. Roe v Wade didn't make abortion illegal just harder.
Martin Curran I just hope they won’t turn Sam into a villain but it wouldn’t surprise me if they they did, considering that’s never stopped Hollyoaks turning police officers into villains before. What do you think Angel Martin????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@ChelseyLinden no he isn't in the right. He has no right to stalk her or demand anything from her. No one is saying he shouldn't of known I'm saying he's in the wrong for being a creep about it
while what she's saying is correct the way Lizzie is going about saying it is way too confrontational and comes across too aggressive the way you talk when you say things to people really does matter.
Because she's a starch down feminist/feminazi she's saying it from a place of women are right, men are wrong, women good, men bad, it's us vs them. Her energy never sat right with me she'll say and do anything just to be in opposition to men.
I can see the point of both sides. Though I don't think the show is handling it the best way, they could have shown them both having calm honest communication instead of making this a screaming drama. I don't think it really handles the subject well. And yes I understand it's Hollyoaks and a soap. But she didn't get pregnant on her own, that baby is just as much a part of him as it is hers. Yes, it's her body and she should have a choice over her body, especially if a termination is what she wants. But I think it's unfair to not consider his feelings either.
I feel like hollyoaks writers seem to have a thing against men… every single character who has any resemblance of masculinity i feel as if hollyoaks just makes them the bad guy in every storyline.
LemonySnicket222 OA indeed and especially officers. That’s no surprise if another officer becomes a villain I just hope that won’t happen with Sam. But I think that’s where he’s headed. 😒
@Ese Uduehi no what we are not gonna do is victim blame women. It is not a woman’s job to keep a man’s obsessive behaviour in check. Men are not entitled to women’s affection or love. Women are not entitled to men’s love and affection either. If she’s doesn’t want him, she has the freedom to do so.
@@scarletyoung6053 honestly such a weird thing to say. People have the right to chose who they want or don’t want to be with. Their comment screams entitlement.
My body my choice. Except it is not your body that is torn apart by the abortion it's the baby. It takes two to make a baby both people should have a say in its termination. I think it's seriously messed up to have the whole cast tell the lad it has nothing to do with him.
Zoey's an obnoxious snitch and poor Sam just getting worse. Also really? She just suddenly walks in on their row and just gets in the way of getting hit 😑
@@scarletyoung6053 OA it doesn’t seem like harassment to me but I do have a a feeling that he’s becoming obsessed. He deserves someone better than Zoe.
Seriously Sam not cool bro and how dear you say you want your child It's Zoey's body Sam you have to understand she wants to focus on her career I wonder what Sam Is up to? When he's on his phone? Okay, Sam says she carries the baby for 9 months and she gives the baby to you how are you gonna take care of the baby you got fired from you're job and you're not even thinking about finding a new one? I like Zoey she is headstrong and I hope you don't let anyone change her mind she loves her career
If he really wanted to be a father he would have talked about it with his significant other and made the plans to have a baby, not have one by accident. Deep down he thinks this baby is his way to get back with her.
Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with the uncle Ethan. And Sam is still immature and not a wicked witch like ugly irritating hard faced cruel Zoey. Honour left cos she was wanting her own life. She didn't care for her kids. So different from mothers in our region who sacrifice and care for kids and family. Here most of the mothers are selfish idiots filled with lust and not love.
It's so unfair that only women has the rights and not men jusr because their the only one that can carry the baby and not guys. I don't know why God would make the women carry the child and give man feelings. It does not mix. God doesn't make mistakes but it's so unfair that he would do something this that only the women has got to say and not men. It should be equal.
I hate this new storyline why can't there stories be something other then this woke preaching about my body my choice scrap. I rather have a story about them embracing celibacy because honestly. I rather have them explore this then females rights again.
Oh my OA I have a feeling that Zoe’ll have a miscarriage before she has the termination and I do wish she would’ve told him or Ethan should’ve told him way sooner before Shannon did. I feel sorry for Sam Zoe is making the right decision for getting the abortion I don’t see any chemistry between these two I doubt he’ll give her space though considering what I read next week and I do hope he won’t become obsessive or a stalker villain in the end I like Sam and Zoe but not together as a couple. Sam can still do better than Zoe and she can too like Zoe with Grace and Sam with Leela this is ridiculous. 😒
@@gabrielmichaelson13 I understand that. I get in trouble for being sexist sometimes when I'm talking about how men should be treated equally and I'm a girl. I agree with how men get treated sometimes and then I get yelled. Although the gay and bi sexual men think I'm funny when I go on a rant.
If men could have babys and have them they would but don't work that way end of the day if a woman didn't want a baby that much then you should of made sure that the man or woman use protection its unfair getting pregnant and end up having an abortion woman out there who can't have kids what would do anything to be pregnant women dream of it
I don’t think men go through pre-eclampsia and post-partum depression? What about placenta rupture and internal bleeding? Maybe sepsis and infertility? Do men go through any of that? So why do they get a say on whether a woman should chance her LIFE to have a baby?
Sundeep Kaur OA it’s her body she’s the one who’s carrying the baby however she should’ve told him and they would’ve discussed about what to do about it together.
Chelsey Linden look Chelsey, I understand that it's her body and she can do whatever she wants it wit but I care about the gentleman's feelings aswell. There are guys out there who wants to become dads. And I just think it's unfair that only a women has got to say but not men. just because their the ones carrying the baby and not them that they can decide to either keep it or terminate and men don't have any choice and respect the women's choices that they made. Men are people with feelings too not just women. Which is why pregnancy in women sucks when it comes to situations like this. A men also has the right to have what they want. And I think abortion is mostly fair when a women was raped.
@@Ghet104 i get what u mean but zoe wants to focus on work. if she goes thru with the pregnancy she’s gonna have to take maternity leave and miss work when she doesn’t want the kid. it’s not fair on her.
@@Ghet104 Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that Sam didn’t have a right to not know about Zoe being pregnant and she should’ve told him yes but again I know he wants to be apart of the baby’s life and even if she were to keep it she’d probably give it up for adoption, forged Sam’s signature and not tell him about that. She has no respect for him I say he deserves better than her.
Sorry but Ethan is right Sam isnt right to be a Dad hes too pathetic
Williams men have got a hot temper on them when it comes to romantic relationships. First Dave loses it with his first two wives. Then Mason goes on the path of an incel. Now Sam is spiraling downwards too.
Well blame Dave he started most likely the kids were raised around it.
Hudson Herships OA it’s mostly Dave’s fault for why they’re like this even though it’s their actions but still it’s all on Dave except for Mason he went down the path of an incel because of Eric “Brady 😉” but he’s a different Person now.
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA Mason’s not like that anymore and besides he went down that whole incel thing mostly because of Eric “Brady 😉” I don’t know how Dave’s to blame for that. But I agree with you about with Sam and himself Aly.
thats what i was thinking.
Exactly, Sam was cool, then he snapped.
I can see from both sides. He wants the baby, but she doesn't. This new storyline puts men in a bad light asking for a child that is also theirs. That is unfair. I get she doesnt want the child and that is her choice, but painting a man as a crazy stalker and dangerous is completely wrong of the story writers.
AmericanDee OA I have feeling he’ll become a villain in the end. I just hope I’m wrong.
But, he’s not doing himself any favours. He’s basically acting like Zoe’s his property to an extent.
No one is painting Sam in s bad light, the relationship was over, accidental pregnancy and he's acting crazy. Even his family thinks the same??
@@SuperBullaMan OA I hope you’re right.
So they are never gonna make a story about exploring celibacy. Instead we got more men bad women right again.
3:27-3:31-4:03
I love the way Ethan put his nephew in his place
Zoe has no respect for her mum or grandma
Decent Food Blog OA or Sam.
She's a copper what do you expect???
he wants the baby because he wants her back and he believes that the baby will bring them back together. his intentions are all wrong, no matter how much he loves zoe, a baby isn't something that will bring couples back together. he needs to back off and learn to accept that she's made her decision and that they aren't getting back together.
king chelsea. OA exactly I wish they would’ve talked about this but if she still wanted to get an abortion then it’s her body and she’s not ready to be a Mother yet, but if she kept the baby she would’ve singed the adoption papers and forged Sam’s signature.
What was Sam looking at on his phone 6:32?
rings, he’s gonna propose 🤦🏾♀️
Gareth Jennings OA who knows?????
4:01/4:02 DON'T START, YA MUG!
And yet some of you guys are gonna make it out to be Zoey’s fault. You lot are either down bad or delulu. You lot are doing too much for a guy with a wonder-bread personality.
It's both of their faults She's not being honest and he's not accepting the fact that it's over Same time doesn't justify his or her behaviour
@@Followthebuzzards689 ok I agree her lack of communication skills isn’t ideal but him being a bit obsessive is not her fault. which is what my comment was referring too.
exactly he’s pure harassing her
What's her fault? Who said it was her fault?
@@notthefather3919 a lot of people are blaming her lol.
3:28 4:12
I wonder if she'll have a miscarriage in the end by the time she has an abortion. And she blames Sam.
I’m not sure I hope not
OA I was wondering the same thing Aly. If I didn’t know any better I’d say he’s going to become a villain I just hope I’m wrong.
@@scarletyoung6053 OA I do and I know that may sound harsh but still she said she’s not wanting to become a Mother and if she has a miscarriage then it’s on both of them not just one of them. Cause like I said before I’ll admit he shouldn’t’ve gone off like that with his Uncle Ethan however I do wish Ethan would’ve told him sooner the moment he found out about it or Zoe considering he’s the Father. I know that sounds confusing but I’m just saying it’s both of their faults she shouldn’t blame Sam if she still has a miscarriage.
@@ChelseyLindenI think that she should of told Sam about the baby and then they could of discussed it together
Yh cause that’s what all the women do these days, blame the men.
I guess out of the US it's still ok to have an abortion still. Ever since the US threw out Roe v Wade. It's harder if not possible to have an abortion . And if you have to carry the baby to full term even if you want to give the baby up for adoption if the father doesn't agree or sign his rights off. The baby will still be around.
OA this whole thing with abortions in America 🇺🇸 is so ridiculous! This should end soon.
@@ChelseyLinden it won't because after they did that they started messing with the gay community. And now transgender people have problems getting what they need because they are slowly taking their rights away. I have been fighting with my mouth over on Tiktok so much that my friend had to leave my state. People are looking at me like I'm this great person or a hero I'm not.
In the UK we don't do full-term abortions because that's murder.
Abortions are available that you have to do early.
Roe v Wade didn't make abortion illegal just harder.
They're all right in what they're saying to Sam. I just think they're going about it all the wrong way
Martin Curran I just hope they won’t turn Sam into a villain but it wouldn’t surprise me if they they did, considering that’s never stopped Hollyoaks turning police officers into villains before. What do you think Angel Martin????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
What are they supposed to do? Let him think he's in the right? Then it will get worse
@@awesomesauce2000 OA he has a right to know he’s the Father so he is in the right Spencer.
@@ChelseyLinden no he isn't in the right. He has no right to stalk her or demand anything from her. No one is saying he shouldn't of known I'm saying he's in the wrong for being a creep about it
while what she's saying is correct the way Lizzie is going about saying it is way too confrontational and comes across too aggressive the way you talk when you say things to people really does matter.
Because she's a starch down feminist/feminazi she's saying it from a place of women are right, men are wrong, women good, men bad, it's us vs them. Her energy never sat right with me she'll say and do anything just to be in opposition to men.
It's like she wants her to have the abortion.
2:29 WD those kids are cute!#Hollyoaks ❤
I can see the point of both sides. Though I don't think the show is handling it the best way, they could have shown them both having calm honest communication instead of making this a screaming drama. I don't think it really handles the subject well. And yes I understand it's Hollyoaks and a soap. But she didn't get pregnant on her own, that baby is just as much a part of him as it is hers. Yes, it's her body and she should have a choice over her body, especially if a termination is what she wants. But I think it's unfair to not consider his feelings either.
Its her choice but everyone is going the wrong way about it regarding Sam. No sensitivity.
I feel like hollyoaks writers seem to have a thing against men… every single character who has any resemblance of masculinity i feel as if hollyoaks just makes them the bad guy in every storyline.
LemonySnicket222 OA indeed and especially officers. That’s no surprise if another officer becomes a villain I just hope that won’t happen with Sam. But I think that’s where he’s headed. 😒
LemonySnicket222 OA also not that I’m stalking you or anything but nice profile pic. You look handsome.
Sam is becoming a stalker it is defo going to be a storyline of him stalker her its just creepy
I know it’s not healthy
@Ese Uduehi no what we are not gonna do is victim blame women. It is not a woman’s job to keep a man’s obsessive behaviour in check. Men are not entitled to women’s affection or love. Women are not entitled to men’s love and affection either. If she’s doesn’t want him, she has the freedom to do so.
@@mushkrose6736true
@@scarletyoung6053 honestly such a weird thing to say. People have the right to chose who they want or don’t want to be with. Their comment screams entitlement.
@Ese Uduehi eww that’s not a normal thing to say.
Hollyokes is a good program keep the hard work up
Vbloging of Lancashire and Surrounding area OA indeed I love Hollyoaks and Days Of Our Lives. 😊
I can't stand from Zoe because she always a drama queen.
OMG! Sam punches Ethan and Zoe's fall. 😱
Ooh, Ethan's accidentally tells Sam he already knew about Zoe's pregnant.
Why did Sam loose his job?
Gareth Jennigs OA Zoe ratted Sam out by saying he was planting drugs on Warren and trying to get him arrested.
@@ChelseyLinden ah
My body my choice. Except it is not your body that is torn apart by the abortion it's the baby.
It takes two to make a baby both people should have a say in its termination.
I think it's seriously messed up to have the whole cast tell the lad it has nothing to do with him.
It's just sad that an abortion is not a joint decision
Zoey's an obnoxious snitch and poor Sam just getting worse. Also really? She just suddenly walks in on their row and just gets in the way of getting hit 😑
77blaidddrwg WD that's nasty!😒
Really, Sam is going to propose to Zoe but i don't think it's not gonna work.
Pearl always interfering with people business
Lucy OA I like Pearl and she has a right to know about this too considering Zoe’s her Granddaughter.
Well it is her grand daughter 💀
@@ChelseyLinden exactly lol
Zoe should of done Sam for harassment cuz that’s what it is
Scarlet Young OA I’m sure he didn’t mean to it was an accident. But I’ll admit Sam shouldn’t’ve gone all rough like that.
@@ChelseyLindenyeah I meant him trying to win her back and she dosnt want to get back with him
@@scarletyoung6053 OA it doesn’t seem like harassment to me but I do have a a feeling that he’s becoming obsessed. He deserves someone better than Zoe.
@@ChelseyLindenyeah sadly it’s not healthy
@@scarletyoung6053 OA darn straight it’s not.
Seriously Sam not cool bro and how dear you say you want your child It's Zoey's body Sam you have to understand she wants to focus on her career I wonder what Sam Is up to? When he's on his phone? Okay, Sam says she carries the baby for 9 months and she gives the baby to you how are you gonna take care of the baby you got fired from you're job and you're not even thinking about finding a new one? I like Zoey she is headstrong and I hope you don't let anyone change her mind she loves her career
Poor zoe
How can anyone have any feeling for such a cruel woman.
@@heartwhispers8 coz sam’s a right weirdo
Zoe isnt a very nice person she's just getting worse her attitude to everything and everyone is bad
Oh Hollyoaks get rid of Zoe
If he really wanted to be a father he would have talked about it with his significant other and made the plans to have a baby, not have one by accident. Deep down he thinks this baby is his way to get back with her.
Hana Briston OA what if she ends up having a miscarriage?????
HE'S JUST LIKE HIS DAD AND BROTHER NO WIONDER THERE MOM LEFT WITH ALL THE ABUSE SHE SUFFERED.......
Nonsense. There is nothing wrong with the uncle Ethan. And Sam is still immature and not a wicked witch like ugly irritating hard faced cruel Zoey.
Honour left cos she was wanting her own life. She didn't care for her kids. So different from mothers in our region who sacrifice and care for kids and family. Here most of the mothers are selfish idiots filled with lust and not love.
@@heartwhispers8 she wasn’t talking abt ethan, she was talking about dave and mason
It's so unfair that only women has the rights and not men jusr because their the only one that can carry the baby and not guys.
I don't know why God would make the women carry the child and give man feelings. It does not mix. God doesn't make mistakes but it's so unfair that he would do something this that only the women has got to say and not men. It should be equal.
I hate this new storyline why can't there stories be something other then this woke preaching about my body my choice scrap. I rather have a story about them embracing celibacy because honestly. I rather have them explore this then females rights again.
Oh my OA I have a feeling that Zoe’ll have a miscarriage before she has the termination and I do wish she would’ve told him or Ethan should’ve told him way sooner before Shannon did. I feel sorry for Sam Zoe is making the right decision for getting the abortion I don’t see any chemistry between these two I doubt he’ll give her space though considering what I read next week and I do hope he won’t become obsessive or a stalker villain in the end I like Sam and Zoe but not together as a couple. Sam can still do better than Zoe and she can too like Zoe with Grace and Sam with Leela this is ridiculous. 😒
Clearly developing an obsession storyline turning Sam into a villain
Dave's not too bright either. I think people thought Dave had a dark side or a dark past winder if it involves Sam in anyway
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 OA I hope not with Sam but I do have a feeling with Dave Aly.
I just wanted something else now. We're getting more females lecturing men about women's rights.
@@gabrielmichaelson13 I understand that. I get in trouble for being sexist sometimes when I'm talking about how men should be treated equally and I'm a girl. I agree with how men get treated sometimes and then I get yelled. Although the gay and bi sexual men think I'm funny when I go on a rant.
@@gabrielmichaelson13 OA definitely.
Noo . Sam wth ? .
If men could have babys and have them they would but don't work that way end of the day if a woman didn't want a baby that much then you should of made sure that the man or woman use protection its unfair getting pregnant and end up having an abortion woman out there who can't have kids what would do anything to be pregnant women dream of it
Am outta here here am coming back when dillion starts doing stuff. Am so over this stupid storyline.
Sorry I’m with Pearl and Zoe’s mum ( I don’t know her name ) abortion is evil she’s being selfish!!! Exactly what she’s being 😡😡😡
God there acting us terrible 😂the mum omg her character needs out and quick cant stand bad acting
I feel a man if he is prepared to rear the baby should have a say in abortj
Abortion.
I don’t think men go through pre-eclampsia and post-partum depression? What about placenta rupture and internal bleeding? Maybe sepsis and infertility? Do men go through any of that? So why do they get a say on whether a woman should chance her LIFE to have a baby?
@@nannahmadisonyeboah4242 eastenders did a story about ppd with a man so I gess the can
No its not her choice should be both
Sundeep Kaur OA it’s her body she’s the one who’s carrying the baby however she should’ve told him and they would’ve discussed about what to do about it together.
It is though
Chelsey Linden look Chelsey, I understand that it's her body and she can do whatever she wants it wit but I care about the gentleman's feelings aswell. There are guys out there who wants to become dads. And I just think it's unfair that only a women has got to say but not men. just because their the ones carrying the baby and not them that they can decide to either keep it or terminate and men don't have any choice and respect the women's choices that they made. Men are people with feelings too not just women. Which is why pregnancy in women sucks when it comes to situations like this. A men also has the right to have what they want. And I think abortion is mostly fair when a women was raped.
@@Ghet104 i get what u mean but zoe wants to focus on work. if she goes thru with the pregnancy she’s gonna have to take maternity leave and miss work when she doesn’t want the kid. it’s not fair on her.
@@Ghet104 Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that Sam didn’t have a right to not know about Zoe being pregnant and she should’ve told him yes but again I know he wants to be apart of the baby’s life and even if she were to keep it she’d probably give it up for adoption, forged Sam’s signature and not tell him about that. She has no respect for him I say he deserves better than her.