Yeah💀💀💀... and Keqing was released💀 in version1 of💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 the game. Are you 💀💀💀suggesting Ororon💀💀 should give less than 25% damage bonus just because💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 he is 4 star?💀 We are in version 5 in case you didn't💀 notice, enemies💀💀💀💀 and bosses are💀 much stronger💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 and trickier to defeat, so new characters have to match that difficulty with their own strenght.💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
i mean yeah...? what's the alternative? another dps that doesn't match 5 star dps and ends up being barely used (unless youre someone who loves this character) like sethos razor or yanfei
Oh awesome! I'm a Cyno main who can't wait to have him. I recently got Chevreuse to C6 and was surprised at how well it performed compared to his premium quickbloom team. People really need to stop overlooking him just because they're unable to get his burst up, he's busted.
I love seeing Cyno mains in the wild He's fine, everyone knows he's good. But he just isn't the greatest character ever I wish he was, I love him. But I almost never use him seriously Alhaitham, Clorinde, and Raiden all overtake him in whichever team I'd theoretically lay him in. I do love him, tho.
Yep. Thats also why citlali is theorized to boost superconduct, she's a cryo but has purple/pink on her character design. Cryo plus electro = superconduct
I wish that his E can bounce on the same enemy multiple times just to make him less horrible in ST. They can lower the damage for each bounce if it's too strong. He's already locked to Electro-charged/Natlan teams. At the very least make it worthwhile to run.
Wow Xilonen and now Ororon? Another potential upgrade to Neuvilette. Damn, it took damn many patch to buff him, he really needs this. Good job Mihoyo. 😊❤
I just want a copy of him meta or not. If he releases with Zhongli and Neuvillette during the second phase of 5.2 I might try to get him to C6 or as much cons as I can.
8:06 This is going to be my absolute favorite Chasca team to play (I'll get her C1, and hopefully C6 ororon in the process. I also have C3 Furina. Lez GOOOOOOOOO)
After doing the new archon quest I believe that, if I get used to Chasca gameplay I will try to get him for more flexibility on my account. I unironically hope to lose the 50/50 since the only character I want is Capitano at the moment
For taser clorinde? His value comes from him being a decent sub dps + buffer + applicator + battery Meanwhile fischl has great sub dps + applicator + battery You already have xilonen (prob on 4 pc scroll) + furina, which is already massive buffs. Which means ur ororon will prob be on the new 4 pc natlan DPS for this team. Not sure what his dmg would be like on it As of rn, I think you'll need at least c2 ororon even with the natlan set to compete with a c6 fischl in terms of dmg.
It’s always weird to me when Meta teams have no healer. Could you include a ‘comfy’ team for us less skilled players? I’m thinking an AFK team with Yaoyao, Furina, and maybe Fishil or Barbara.
kokomi has great sinergy with ororon, you could pair them with raiden and yelan or furina and you will have a strong electrocharge team, and the upcoming buff will make it more viable
I wanted to get him c6 so much, but I am in a guaranteed pity and I really want Mavuika with her weapon, so I guess I’ll have to wait possibly an entire year or more to get him
Idk if two cinder city holders in one team work, but if they don't or if they're not optimal bc of diminished returns(eventhough kazuha kind of did the same thing) xilonen could switch for song of days past
Its too exaggerating to tell us that new niche 4* like him will be surpass bennet, xinqiu and xialing use in abyss. I will just see him in par with fishl. And i didnt know how much dmg electro charge or whatever the buff to the new element can be. Since im not big fan of electro and pyro combine or electro and hydro combine. Its more like another buff for neuvillete with raiden team (the much better version of any 4* electro)
I don't think he surpasses Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu. But there are plenty of other very top-tier 4 stars and I think Ororon has the potential to join them
NGL, he is kind of less tempting to me due to having Nilou and as a result, I have access to some of the best AOE teams in the game and Electro-charged is best in AOE. Even still, I like Niche characters. I would love to grab him someday. Would have pulled next path but I'm saving my guarantee.
it's probably hoyo's own fault for the way they've been keeping new four stars hostage after first release lately. chevreuse didn't rerun for 8 months, not to mention kaveh being gone for over a year
Full EM cinder city Ororon can be pretty good in a Alhaitham Furina Ororon Baizhu team i think. If you dont have Baizhu, you can use yaoyao but Baizhu is much better for that team. Idk if its better than Alhaitham Furina Nahida(proto amber) Kuki teams but it should be comparable.
the problem is that alhaitham is typically played in double dendro. but with double dendro, you're not getting electro-charged uptime, so Ororon isn't going to work. only way is if they release another hydro or electro off-field subdps from natlan so nightsoul dmg can trigger ororon
Idk he doesn't seem to be anywhere near chevruse level. Maybe with C6 he gets close to a C0 chevruse. But the numbers ive seen are a little dissapointing.
@@MrcreeperDXD777imagine if muvika allow you to use night soul blessing to your all alies then the new natlan sets would become best after emblem or probably even better than emblem lol
with his 30% atk buff and cinder buff for electro charged team. and dont forget fischl level dmg capability he has. just wait and see how strong electro charged team when he's released.
yea that's an interesting question. current calcs I've seen have Ororon still on 4pc scroll and they use 4pc instructor on Xilonen. but there may be other options you can do. times like this makes we wish we had the instructor set with 5* rarity
I do love how C6 Keqing gives 25% Elemental Damage while C2 Ororon gives 60% 💀
If he released on those days he would've been able to become five star character 💀
Thats crazy to think about 😅
Pretty sure it’s only 24%
@@FacialFischlits 24 minimum, 12% base and 12% for each target up to 4
Yeah💀💀💀... and Keqing was released💀 in version1 of💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 the game. Are you 💀💀💀suggesting Ororon💀💀 should give less than 25% damage bonus just because💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 he is 4 star?💀
We are in version 5 in case you didn't💀 notice, enemies💀💀💀💀 and bosses are💀 much stronger💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 and trickier to defeat, so new characters have to match that difficulty with their own strenght.💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
That's great to have more niche 4* honestly smart move
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i mean yeah...? what's the alternative? another dps that doesn't match 5 star dps and ends up being barely used (unless youre someone who loves this character) like sethos razor or yanfei
@@_Lupical exactly, it's also refreshing to see different element types being used, like chev with overload.
@@Toby-oh3ym oh wait you were serious, ngl I thought you were being sarcastic, my bad 😬
@@_Lupical it's okay, it happens
Oh awesome! I'm a Cyno main who can't wait to have him.
I recently got Chevreuse to C6 and was surprised at how well it performed compared to his premium quickbloom team.
People really need to stop overlooking him just because they're unable to get his burst up, he's busted.
I thought I was delusional for playing Cynoverload with Chevreuse (especially with my +C2 Dehya who has enough uptime for Cyno's burst)
But I will overlook him because there is no way for me to get him. Not pulling on Chasca or Leyney banner
I love seeing Cyno mains in the wild
He's fine, everyone knows he's good. But he just isn't the greatest character ever
I wish he was, I love him. But I almost never use him seriously
Alhaitham, Clorinde, and Raiden all overtake him in whichever team I'd theoretically lay him in.
I do love him, tho.
The thing is…Clorinde already exists and beat him in every aspect 🥲but lets have fun with our general CYNO😍💯
maybe that's why he's wearing blue and his eyes having both blue and purple color for electro-charged!
Just like Chevreuse who has overload colors he has Electro charged colord
And Chasca's rainbow-esque Designe like the teams she likes to play
Yep. Thats also why citlali is theorized to boost superconduct, she's a cryo but has purple/pink on her character design. Cryo plus electro = superconduct
@@villa_art maybe that's why they buffets superconduct quite a bit
He sounds fun. I love the idea of niche 4*!
just finished building my dps taser koko 💕 see you soon ororon
3:24 literally to see the puzzles better in natlan from the clips I've seen
What puzzles?
@@majkat6549 new ones coming in 5.2
Mannn I want him but the banners are low key bad for me
Saame
i can’t wait to play taser clorinde :3
same!! it's so excited to try out new teams for our favorite girl
I will test him with my Raiden and Yelan
Totally gonna grab a c0 copy of him!
I wish that his E can bounce on the same enemy multiple times just to make him less horrible in ST. They can lower the damage for each bounce if it's too strong.
He's already locked to Electro-charged/Natlan teams. At the very least make it worthwhile to run.
Wow Xilonen and now Ororon? Another potential upgrade to Neuvilette. Damn, it took damn many patch to buff him, he really needs this. Good job Mihoyo. 😊❤
Instead of Chevreuse isn’t he more like an electro-charge Emilie?
Yup! BC like Emilie, he benefits from being played on EC teams but he's not locked to them. OP seems to have misworded it a little
Yes its better comparaison
Exactly. Like, Chevreuse and Nilou buff others based on a reaction, while in Emilie and Ororon’s case, the reaction buffs their own damage.
No. Emilie has no team utility.
@@GettieJC somebody doesn't have kinich
i wiiiish he will be in second half, cuz im gonna roll for neuvi. But you never know
I just want a copy of him meta or not. If he releases with Zhongli and Neuvillette during the second phase of 5.2 I might try to get him to C6 or as much cons as I can.
8:06
This is going to be my absolute favorite Chasca team to play (I'll get her C1, and hopefully C6 ororon in the process. I also have C3 Furina. Lez GOOOOOOOOO)
"best 4* to be released in genshin" is a huge bar considering xq bennet and xl wow
Technically they werent released since they came at launched
xl will be officially done with mauvika and maybe bennet if she buffs
@@dariusd2934 silly semantics he he
And shes on par with them
@@DanielCruz-xq6eo Nobody will be able to replace those two. They're gonna be here till we clear Celestia
Finally here
Thank you so much
Who said I'm not using his na?? Imma play him as an on field dps!! (As a meme build)
After doing the new archon quest I believe that, if I get used to Chasca gameplay I will try to get him for more flexibility on my account. I unironically hope to lose the 50/50 since the only character I want is Capitano at the moment
Looking forward to Ororon more than Chasca.
Nahida got another buff
elegy on him would be insane
He's going on my Neuv team. I already have Fischl there, so easy replacement.
I'm putting him with FISCHL
I’ve been playing taser clorinde and it’s been pretty good I’ve been using fischl furina xilonen I wonder if he would be an upgrade to fischl then
it'll be an upgrade if you change xilonen build to petra, ororon is better cinder holder in that team.
i also use clorinde taser btw. with yun jin+furina+yelan.
For taser clorinde?
His value comes from him being a decent sub dps + buffer + applicator + battery
Meanwhile fischl has great sub dps + applicator + battery
You already have xilonen (prob on 4 pc scroll) + furina, which is already massive buffs.
Which means ur ororon will prob be on the new 4 pc natlan DPS for this team. Not sure what his dmg would be like on it
As of rn, I think you'll need at least c2 ororon even with the natlan set to compete with a c6 fischl in terms of dmg.
It’s always weird to me when Meta teams have no healer. Could you include a ‘comfy’ team for us less skilled players? I’m thinking an AFK team with Yaoyao, Furina, and maybe Fishil or Barbara.
kokomi has great sinergy with ororon, you could pair them with raiden and yelan or furina and you will have a strong electrocharge team, and the upcoming buff will make it more viable
I wanted to get him c6 so much, but I am in a guaranteed pity and I really want Mavuika with her weapon, so I guess I’ll have to wait possibly an entire year or more to get him
I wonder how well he would work with aggravate/hyperbloom alhaitham by just using 4pcs cinder city and practically less than half of his kit
Funny enough, i had no desire to pull for anyone in the character banners on 5.2, so i could save for mavuika, yet here we are…
regarding his f2p weapon, the fontaine craftable is better that natlan's
Even their character 😂 natlan characters can't be compare with fountaine people
@@haruki4860 I am sure the natlan craftable will have some use for someone, just not him...
assuming he can get constantly healed, then yes. however since he's off-field most of the time, it may be hard to proc the passive
Neuvillete , furina , ororon , citlali . This would be a really good team . ( Atleast in theory )
About his Natlan movement skill; does that mean his tribe also has a flying saurian like Chaska’s tribe?
Kinda, the saurian jumps up vertically then floats a bit.
Will neauvillette get a another buff if you replace kazuha with Ororon?
Idk if two cinder city holders in one team work, but if they don't or if they're not optimal bc of diminished returns(eventhough kazuha kind of did the same thing) xilonen could switch for song of days past
ec neuvillette is another team option for him with ororon but it's not gonna be better than his standard team
I have a c6 main dps Sigewinne, do we think that Sigewinne, Ororon, Furina, Beidou/Kazuha/Xilonen work?
Ororon Xilonen Mona/Furina Yae/Fischl
is mona c2 with ororon a good idea?
i was thinking of mona ororon kazuha and xq
if you're already using Xq, i think you need a second electro to make sure you can constantly have electro-charges
yikes, I was hoping his nightsoul burst just wasn't revealed yet but looks like he really doesn't have one :(
his benefit from nightsoul burst triggering is getting nightsoul points, which gives him more A1 procs
what website is he using? (when he shows the description of ororons skill, burst ect)
homdgcat probably
for this video i used hakush.in, other times I use project amber or homdgcat
Yae Miko Fischl Ororon Mona , unli taunt while just standing
does xianyun plunges's swirls work for the passive? i was thinking of running him with fishcl furina and xianyun
she can work as anemo support, but plunging on another character won't proc vv since xianyun is off-field
buffing atk when the majority of hydro characters scales with hp is odd
Its too exaggerating to tell us that new niche 4* like him will be surpass bennet, xinqiu and xialing use in abyss. I will just see him in par with fishl. And i didnt know how much dmg electro charge or whatever the buff to the new element can be. Since im not big fan of electro and pyro combine or electro and hydro combine. Its more like another buff for neuvillete with raiden team (the much better version of any 4* electro)
yeah, i also just see him as fischl that has support potential
I don't think he surpasses Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu. But there are plenty of other very top-tier 4 stars and I think Ororon has the potential to join them
Could this be a massive competition against NilouBloom teams? Both are used for AOE and multi-wave enemies.
nilou's blooms still do way more damage, ur good
EC is still a solid option for AoE. don't think Nilou bloom will get "outcompeted" though
NGL, he is kind of less tempting to me due to having Nilou and as a result, I have access to some of the best AOE teams in the game and Electro-charged is best in AOE.
Even still, I like Niche characters. I would love to grab him someday. Would have pulled next path but I'm saving my guarantee.
when he will be playable...
Next patch, he's coming to the game alongside Chasca
@@kaiser8773 TYYY
Just for fun, how about neuvillette electro charge? With raiden, neuvi,ororon, and zhongli (?)
yea that team works
There is some outrage wanting to make him a five star. And honestly i dont want that. That way he is way less acessible
it's probably hoyo's own fault for the way they've been keeping new four stars hostage after first release lately. chevreuse didn't rerun for 8 months, not to mention kaveh being gone for over a year
I guess Clorinde-Furina-Ororon-Xilonen/Nahida P.amber is new Bis?
currently looks like the team will be competitive with other meta options
Shame he is not a 5 star… pulling a specific 4 star can take more pulls then getting a 5 star. 4 stars have no guarantee…
sadly a c0 fischl victim😕
aight so they aint changing him for 5 :v
Can he also buff alhaitham?
With cinder city, yes.
Should be able to. Might be best quickbloom teams to trigger his A1 attacks.
Full EM cinder city Ororon can be pretty good in a Alhaitham Furina Ororon Baizhu team i think. If you dont have Baizhu, you can use yaoyao but Baizhu is much better for that team. Idk if its better than Alhaitham Furina Nahida(proto amber) Kuki teams but it should be comparable.
the problem is that alhaitham is typically played in double dendro. but with double dendro, you're not getting electro-charged uptime, so Ororon isn't going to work. only way is if they release another hydro or electro off-field subdps from natlan so nightsoul dmg can trigger ororon
Idk he doesn't seem to be anywhere near chevruse level. Maybe with C6 he gets close to a C0 chevruse. But the numbers ive seen are a little dissapointing.
charged is getting 66% buff in 5.2. so I guess the numbers might be higher
Did you forget he can run Cinder City for 40% DMG bonus to all allies?
@@MrcreeperDXD777imagine if muvika allow you to use night soul blessing to your all alies then the new natlan sets would become best after emblem or probably even better than emblem lol
@@Yhwach908 i can see that happening since Furina can enable the Hunter set on anyone as well.
with his 30% atk buff and cinder buff for electro charged team. and dont forget fischl level dmg capability he has. just wait and see how strong electro charged team when he's released.
He sounding like a hard power creep for fischl
More like a sidegrade and hes niche locked
i view him as an alternative in EC. fischl is still better in like aggravate/overload
I really REALLY want to pull Ororon but by god I don’t want Chasca or the other 5*, sighhh
1st
If he's used on a team with Chasca and Xilonen, could he use a different set, or should I farm 4pc Husk for Xilonen? I just got her 4pc scroll 🥲
yea that's an interesting question. current calcs I've seen have Ororon still on 4pc scroll and they use 4pc instructor on Xilonen. but there may be other options you can do. times like this makes we wish we had the instructor set with 5* rarity
C0 fischl victim 🙌