Yeah💀💀💀... and Keqing was released💀 in version1 of💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 the game. Are you 💀💀💀suggesting Ororon💀💀 should give less than 25% damage bonus just because💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 he is 4 star?💀 We are in version 5 in case you didn't💀 notice, enemies💀💀💀💀 and bosses are💀 much stronger💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 and trickier to defeat, so new characters have to match that difficulty with their own strenght.💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
i mean yeah...? what's the alternative? another dps that doesn't match 5 star dps and ends up being barely used (unless youre someone who loves this character) like sethos razor or yanfei
Yep. Thats also why citlali is theorized to boost superconduct, she's a cryo but has purple/pink on her character design. Cryo plus electro = superconduct
Oh awesome! I'm a Cyno main who can't wait to have him. I recently got Chevreuse to C6 and was surprised at how well it performed compared to his premium quickbloom team. People really need to stop overlooking him just because they're unable to get his burst up, he's busted.
I love seeing Cyno mains in the wild He's fine, everyone knows he's good. But he just isn't the greatest character ever I wish he was, I love him. But I almost never use him seriously Alhaitham, Clorinde, and Raiden all overtake him in whichever team I'd theoretically lay him in. I do love him, tho.
I'm really interested to see if Iansan winds up being a capable onfield Electro DPS; if so, she could be the key to unlocking all sorts of crazy Ororon team comps that don't involve any Hydro. Ororon has a lot of potential, so I hope the rest of his Beta cycle is kind to him.
@@ChirpyMisha that's what I thought. But I guess for them, a Chasca or Neuvillette banner is bad 🫣 A surprise Chasca or Neuvillette constellation would be great for me
I just want a copy of him meta or not. If he releases with Zhongli and Neuvillette during the second phase of 5.2 I might try to get him to C6 or as much cons as I can.
I wish that his E can bounce on the same enemy multiple times just to make him less horrible in ST. They can lower the damage for each bounce if it's too strong. He's already locked to Electro-charged/Natlan teams. At the very least make it worthwhile to run.
For taser clorinde? His value comes from him being a decent sub dps + buffer + applicator + battery Meanwhile fischl has great sub dps + applicator + battery You already have xilonen (prob on 4 pc scroll) + furina, which is already massive buffs. Which means ur ororon will prob be on the new 4 pc natlan DPS for this team. Not sure what his dmg would be like on it As of rn, I think you'll need at least c2 ororon even with the natlan set to compete with a c6 fischl in terms of dmg.
@@had-sd4hsfischl's kit is more an off-field main DPS relying on her own damages. Meanwhile, Ororon is a true off-field sub-DPS whose purpose is to enhance the whole team's damages. Ororon is finally the electro unit who can proc consistantly hyperbloom reaction in dendro team. Comparing them on a damage scaling when they don't even have the same role is a very superficial level type of analysis.
I want to comment on Alley Hunter.. The weapon design and its effect fits so well with ororon design & colour scheme.. Because of that i level that weapon up specifically for him
This! I have r4 Alley hunter maxed out and Fischl only uses it sometimes when I don't use her in Dendro team with Stringless instead. Now it will be on Ororon for sure very aesthetically pleasing.
8:06 This is going to be my absolute favorite Chasca team to play (I'll get her C1, and hopefully C6 ororon in the process. I also have C3 Furina. Lez GOOOOOOOOO)
It’s always weird to me when Meta teams have no healer. Could you include a ‘comfy’ team for us less skilled players? I’m thinking an AFK team with Yaoyao, Furina, and maybe Fishil or Barbara.
kokomi has great sinergy with ororon, you could pair them with raiden and yelan or furina and you will have a strong electrocharge team, and the upcoming buff will make it more viable
Then u will lose Kuki as the healer for Furina, so he goes back to Yelan, and Ororon A1 needs the on fielder hits hydro or electro, no? Not counting Ororon downtime which then Al haitham depends on electrocharge aura only I want to use him too on Haitham 😭
After doing the new archon quest I believe that, if I get used to Chasca gameplay I will try to get him for more flexibility on my account. I unironically hope to lose the 50/50 since the only character I want is Capitano at the moment
Wow Xilonen and now Ororon? Another potential upgrade to Neuvilette. Damn, it took damn many patch to buff him, he really needs this. Good job Mihoyo. 😊❤
Is there any benefit to using Sac Bow? It looks like he can only have one oculus at a time, and the ER effect from his A4 can't be doubled since it can only activate 3x per duration (and I assume using his E again would extend the first duration rather than starting a second one).
I was hoping for a reaction buffer, not just a 4-star Electro-Charge Emilie. Give us EM, buff reaction damage, or improve other Hydro & Electro characters.
I wanted to get him c6 so much, but I am in a guaranteed pity and I really want Mavuika with her weapon, so I guess I’ll have to wait possibly an entire year or more to get him
do you think The Stringless is good on him? it increases his E and Q damage quite significantly and tho EM isn't the best stat on him, I believe it's still a good option please let me know what you think of it
Idk if two cinder city holders in one team work, but if they don't or if they're not optimal bc of diminished returns(eventhough kazuha kind of did the same thing) xilonen could switch for song of days past
i just wish he would be a electrocharge chevruse instead of 4 star electrocharge emely. He could give electro and hydro buffs and it would be amazing, the way he is now, he is only a fishl downgrade that is niche :( i want him to be stronger
offielders r alrady rare and good but if he turned out to be good even on his last beta then even tho I am going for pyro archon but I will not mind trying few pulls to get at least 1 copy of him. Lets see what happens during his beta cycles
I don't quite see Ororon as top tier. That primarly because he is very AOE oriented and his damage falls off quite a bit against a single target. While it's best to have both, I feel that single target is better because single enemies/bosses are very prominent in Genshin's endgame content. Spiral Abyss, Imaginatrium Theater, and the Local Legends (very strong minibosses in the overworld that are most prominent in Natlan). That is why I think Fischl is still superior since she has great single target damage. However, I do think Ororon is now the best post-launch 4* character, near the top of high tier. He surpasses Kuki Shinobu (who I felt was the former best post launch 4*) Ororon I se3 as the 5th best 4* after his release (if he doesnt change in beta), after Bennett, Xingqiu, Fischl, and Xiangling, and ahead of Sucrose.
NGL, he is kind of less tempting to me due to having Nilou and as a result, I have access to some of the best AOE teams in the game and Electro-charged is best in AOE. Even still, I like Niche characters. I would love to grab him someday. Would have pulled next path but I'm saving my guarantee.
@@anddad thanks! planning to use a team of fischl, bennet, xq and ororon since I have those three very decently built already. who do you suggest being the driver out of those four? (the ones that can proc xq sword the most/having the fastest NA)
@@グレン-u7d if you can fit an anemo as your driver that would probably be best since they can build full EM and add swirls. otherwise, you could use fischl because of her ranged autos
His damage is primarily coming from ATK scaling multipliers, there is no EM scaling in his kit. Building EM would then be relying entirely on electrocharge reaction, which isn't impressive damagewise and more importantly is notoriously difficult to maintain ownership of. There is the niche scenario as hyperbloom trigger if you don't have Kuki or Raiden, in which case I guess you can go full EM there, but uptime is kind of ehhhh.
Idk he doesn't seem to be anywhere near chevruse level. Maybe with C6 he gets close to a C0 chevruse. But the numbers ive seen are a little dissapointing.
@@MrcreeperDXD777imagine if muvika allow you to use night soul blessing to your all alies then the new natlan sets would become best after emblem or probably even better than emblem lol
with his 30% atk buff and cinder buff for electro charged team. and dont forget fischl level dmg capability he has. just wait and see how strong electro charged team when he's released.
it's probably hoyo's own fault for the way they've been keeping new four stars hostage after first release lately. chevreuse didn't rerun for 8 months, not to mention kaveh being gone for over a year
Full EM cinder city Ororon can be pretty good in a Alhaitham Furina Ororon Baizhu team i think. If you dont have Baizhu, you can use yaoyao but Baizhu is much better for that team. Idk if its better than Alhaitham Furina Nahida(proto amber) Kuki teams but it should be comparable.
the problem is that alhaitham is typically played in double dendro. but with double dendro, you're not getting electro-charged uptime, so Ororon isn't going to work. only way is if they release another hydro or electro off-field subdps from natlan so nightsoul dmg can trigger ororon
Its too exaggerating to tell us that new niche 4* like him will be surpass bennet, xinqiu and xialing use in abyss. I will just see him in par with fishl. And i didnt know how much dmg electro charge or whatever the buff to the new element can be. Since im not big fan of electro and pyro combine or electro and hydro combine. Its more like another buff for neuvillete with raiden team (the much better version of any 4* electro)
I don't think he surpasses Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu. But there are plenty of other very top-tier 4 stars and I think Ororon has the potential to join them
yea that's an interesting question. current calcs I've seen have Ororon still on 4pc scroll and they use 4pc instructor on Xilonen. but there may be other options you can do. times like this makes we wish we had the instructor set with 5* rarity
I do love how C6 Keqing gives 25% Elemental Damage while C2 Ororon gives 60% 💀
If he released on those days he would've been able to become five star character 💀
Thats crazy to think about 😅
Pretty sure it’s only 24%
@@Flowers4Fischlits 24 minimum, 12% base and 12% for each target up to 4
Yeah💀💀💀... and Keqing was released💀 in version1 of💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 the game. Are you 💀💀💀suggesting Ororon💀💀 should give less than 25% damage bonus just because💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 he is 4 star?💀
We are in version 5 in case you didn't💀 notice, enemies💀💀💀💀 and bosses are💀 much stronger💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 and trickier to defeat, so new characters have to match that difficulty with their own strenght.💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
That's great to have more niche 4* honestly smart move
Brother
i mean yeah...? what's the alternative? another dps that doesn't match 5 star dps and ends up being barely used (unless youre someone who loves this character) like sethos razor or yanfei
@@_Lupical exactly, it's also refreshing to see different element types being used, like chev with overload.
@@Toby-oh3ym oh wait you were serious, ngl I thought you were being sarcastic, my bad 😬
@@_Lupical it's okay, it happens
maybe that's why he's wearing blue and his eyes having both blue and purple color for electro-charged!
Just like Chevreuse who has overload colors he has Electro charged colord
And Chasca's rainbow-esque Designe like the teams she likes to play
Yep. Thats also why citlali is theorized to boost superconduct, she's a cryo but has purple/pink on her character design. Cryo plus electro = superconduct
@@villa_art maybe that's why they buffets superconduct quite a bit
@@Sacration and Kuki being electro for Dendro
He sounds fun. I love the idea of niche 4*!
Oh awesome! I'm a Cyno main who can't wait to have him.
I recently got Chevreuse to C6 and was surprised at how well it performed compared to his premium quickbloom team.
People really need to stop overlooking him just because they're unable to get his burst up, he's busted.
I thought I was delusional for playing Cynoverload with Chevreuse (especially with my +C2 Dehya who has enough uptime for Cyno's burst)
But I will overlook him because there is no way for me to get him. Not pulling on Chasca or Leyney banner
I love seeing Cyno mains in the wild
He's fine, everyone knows he's good. But he just isn't the greatest character ever
I wish he was, I love him. But I almost never use him seriously
Alhaitham, Clorinde, and Raiden all overtake him in whichever team I'd theoretically lay him in.
I do love him, tho.
The thing is…Clorinde already exists and beat him in every aspect 🥲but lets have fun with our general CYNO😍💯
Cyno national😢
Instead of Chevreuse isn’t he more like an electro-charge Emilie?
Yup! BC like Emilie, he benefits from being played on EC teams but he's not locked to them. OP seems to have misworded it a little
Yes its better comparaison
Exactly. Like, Chevreuse and Nilou buff others based on a reaction, while in Emilie and Ororon’s case, the reaction buffs their own damage.
No. Emilie has no team utility.
@@GettieJC somebody doesn't have kinich
I'm really interested to see if Iansan winds up being a capable onfield Electro DPS; if so, she could be the key to unlocking all sorts of crazy Ororon team comps that don't involve any Hydro. Ororon has a lot of potential, so I hope the rest of his Beta cycle is kind to him.
Tbh if iansan gets added to ststandard i pray if i eve lose it'll be to her or tighnari
3:24 literally to see the puzzles better in natlan from the clips I've seen
What puzzles?
@@majkat6549 new ones coming in 5.2
Mannn I want him but the banners are low key bad for me
Saame
What banners will be be on?
@emkaeyaglia I think he'll be on the banner with Chasca and Lyney. Otherwise he'll be with Neuvi and Zhongli (according to leaks)
@@ChirpyMisha that's what I thought. But I guess for them, a Chasca or Neuvillette banner is bad 🫣
A surprise Chasca or Neuvillette constellation would be great for me
praying its neuv and zhong, i can get lyney later but NOTT Chasca
Totally gonna grab a c0 copy of him!
i can’t wait to play taser clorinde :3
same!! it's so excited to try out new teams for our favorite girl
I will test him with my Raiden and Yelan
My Ayato teaser team is also going to love him.
"best 4* to be released in genshin" is a huge bar considering xq bennet and xl wow
Technically they werent released since they came at launched
xl will be officially done with mauvika and maybe bennet if she buffs
@@dariusd2934 silly semantics he he
And shes on par with them
@@DanielCruz-xq6eo Nobody will be able to replace those two. They're gonna be here till we clear Celestia
Fantastic update. Keep these coming, especially with 4 stars. Really going to be prioritizing Ororon a bit more now.
I just want a copy of him meta or not. If he releases with Zhongli and Neuvillette during the second phase of 5.2 I might try to get him to C6 or as much cons as I can.
just finished building my dps taser koko 💕 see you soon ororon
I wish that his E can bounce on the same enemy multiple times just to make him less horrible in ST. They can lower the damage for each bounce if it's too strong.
He's already locked to Electro-charged/Natlan teams. At the very least make it worthwhile to run.
Considering the fact that any electro related reaction is going to be buffed, he's pretty much worth it in any case.
Nahida got another buff
I’ve been playing taser clorinde and it’s been pretty good I’ve been using fischl furina xilonen I wonder if he would be an upgrade to fischl then
it'll be an upgrade if you change xilonen build to petra, ororon is better cinder holder in that team.
i also use clorinde taser btw. with yun jin+furina+yelan.
For taser clorinde?
His value comes from him being a decent sub dps + buffer + applicator + battery
Meanwhile fischl has great sub dps + applicator + battery
You already have xilonen (prob on 4 pc scroll) + furina, which is already massive buffs.
Which means ur ororon will prob be on the new 4 pc natlan DPS for this team. Not sure what his dmg would be like on it
As of rn, I think you'll need at least c2 ororon even with the natlan set to compete with a c6 fischl in terms of dmg.
Fischl for single target. Ororon for multi-target.
@@had-sd4hsfischl's kit is more an off-field main DPS relying on her own damages. Meanwhile, Ororon is a true off-field sub-DPS whose purpose is to enhance the whole team's damages.
Ororon is finally the electro unit who can proc consistantly hyperbloom reaction in dendro team.
Comparing them on a damage scaling when they don't even have the same role is a very superficial level type of analysis.
I want to comment on Alley Hunter.. The weapon design and its effect fits so well with ororon design & colour scheme.. Because of that i level that weapon up specifically for him
You're cooking here.
This! I have r4 Alley hunter maxed out and Fischl only uses it sometimes when I don't use her in Dendro team with Stringless instead. Now it will be on Ororon for sure very aesthetically pleasing.
elegy on him would be insane
Finally here
Thank you so much
I'm putting him with FISCHL
8:06
This is going to be my absolute favorite Chasca team to play (I'll get her C1, and hopefully C6 ororon in the process. I also have C3 Furina. Lez GOOOOOOOOO)
It’s always weird to me when Meta teams have no healer. Could you include a ‘comfy’ team for us less skilled players? I’m thinking an AFK team with Yaoyao, Furina, and maybe Fishil or Barbara.
kokomi has great sinergy with ororon, you could pair them with raiden and yelan or furina and you will have a strong electrocharge team, and the upcoming buff will make it more viable
kokomi, yae
aiden ororon, kazuha
i wiiiish he will be in second half, cuz im gonna roll for neuvi. But you never know
Who said I'm not using his na?? Imma play him as an on field dps!! (As a meme build)
Cupid Ororon. Charged attacking in the air XD
I wonder how well he would work with aggravate/hyperbloom alhaitham by just using 4pcs cinder city and practically less than half of his kit
Then u will lose Kuki as the healer for Furina, so he goes back to Yelan, and Ororon A1 needs the on fielder hits hydro or electro, no?
Not counting Ororon downtime which then Al haitham depends on electrocharge aura only
I want to use him too on Haitham 😭
regarding his f2p weapon, the fontaine craftable is better that natlan's
Even their character 😂 natlan characters can't be compare with fountaine people
@@haruki4860 I am sure the natlan craftable will have some use for someone, just not him...
assuming he can get constantly healed, then yes. however since he's off-field most of the time, it may be hard to proc the passive
After doing the new archon quest I believe that, if I get used to Chasca gameplay I will try to get him for more flexibility on my account. I unironically hope to lose the 50/50 since the only character I want is Capitano at the moment
Mandatory C6 if you want him as a support. That’s difficult. Huhu! No wonder they’re going to buff Electrocharge reaction in the next patch. 😭
Wow Xilonen and now Ororon? Another potential upgrade to Neuvilette. Damn, it took damn many patch to buff him, he really needs this. Good job Mihoyo. 😊❤
I like use Ororon as sub dps on Kinich Quickburn team cuz I like both them. Ororon can buff Kinich and give some night soul burst to him
Is there any benefit to using Sac Bow? It looks like he can only have one oculus at a time, and the ER effect from his A4 can't be doubled since it can only activate 3x per duration (and I assume using his E again would extend the first duration rather than starting a second one).
i dont ever use bows unless i have to so idk if i should try to get him or not i dont rly like bows but i rly like how ororon looks
he won't really be using a "bow" as his main source of combat, just his abilities
I was hoping for a reaction buffer, not just a 4-star Electro-Charge Emilie. Give us EM, buff reaction damage, or improve other Hydro & Electro characters.
Ah I need him but I’ll have to wait for his next banner. Can’t risk my Zhongli guarantee
There is a possibility that he can be in the second phase 👀. I feel the same as you but with neuvillette instead lol
He's going on my Neuv team. I already have Fischl there, so easy replacement.
I wanted to get him c6 so much, but I am in a guaranteed pity and I really want Mavuika with her weapon, so I guess I’ll have to wait possibly an entire year or more to get him
I'm gonna get him for neuvilette Electro Charge Team
Looking forward to Ororon more than Chasca.
do you think The Stringless is good on him?
it increases his E and Q damage quite significantly
and tho EM isn't the best stat on him, I believe it's still a good option
please let me know what you think of it
it's definitely usable but I think natlan craftable is better because the ATK is more general + his A1 procs aren't E/Q damage
@@anddad thank you very much for your feedback, and all of your informative reviews until now those help a lot!
@@teensugoi3567 no problem! glad i was able to help you! :D
About his Natlan movement skill; does that mean his tribe also has a flying saurian like Chaska’s tribe?
Kinda, the saurian jumps up vertically then floats a bit.
Neuvillete , furina , ororon , citlali . This would be a really good team . ( Atleast in theory )
Yae Miko Fischl Ororon Mona , unli taunt while just standing
Finally I can give The First Great Magic to someone that isn't Amber!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉
interesting how he doesn't do anything with Cryo considering he's from the Cryo tribe and has no sinergy with Citlali
Funny enough, i had no desire to pull for anyone in the character banners on 5.2, so i could save for mavuika, yet here we are…
Wouldn't his best team be Ororon Fischl Xilonen and Ayato/Childe?
Do you think fischl can max out his nightsoul blessing for 4pc scroll? I wanna run him on my Tighnari team.
need a good hydro so you can get electro-charges
Ororon Xilonen Mona/Furina Yae/Fischl
Will neauvillette get a another buff if you replace kazuha with Ororon?
Idk if two cinder city holders in one team work, but if they don't or if they're not optimal bc of diminished returns(eventhough kazuha kind of did the same thing) xilonen could switch for song of days past
ec neuvillette is another team option for him with ororon but it's not gonna be better than his standard team
@@Person-TaylorsVersion Cinder buff doesn't stack.
i just wish he would be a electrocharge chevruse instead of 4 star electrocharge emely. He could give electro and hydro buffs and it would be amazing, the way he is now, he is only a fishl downgrade that is niche :( i want him to be stronger
Cyno buff, I’m pulling
is mona c2 with ororon a good idea?
i was thinking of mona ororon kazuha and xq
if you're already using Xq, i think you need a second electro to make sure you can constantly have electro-charges
offielders r alrady rare and good but if he turned out to be good even on his last beta then even tho I am going for pyro archon but I will not mind trying few pulls to get at least 1 copy of him. Lets see what happens during his beta cycles
I don't quite see Ororon as top tier. That primarly because he is very AOE oriented and his damage falls off quite a bit against a single target.
While it's best to have both, I feel that single target is better because single enemies/bosses are very prominent in Genshin's endgame content. Spiral Abyss, Imaginatrium Theater, and the Local Legends (very strong minibosses in the overworld that are most prominent in Natlan). That is why I think Fischl is still superior since she has great single target damage.
However, I do think Ororon is now the best post-launch 4* character, near the top of high tier. He surpasses Kuki Shinobu (who I felt was the former best post launch 4*)
Ororon I se3 as the 5th best 4* after his release (if he doesnt change in beta), after Bennett, Xingqiu, Fischl, and Xiangling, and ahead of Sucrose.
My cracked Fischl, c2 Xilonen, whale Ayato will be waiting for him.... when he is not on the Chasca banner.
Would Shinobu work as the second Electro in an on-field Hydro EC team? I'm thinking of running Childe/Ororon/Kazuha/Shinobu.
yea shes good for healing
I have a c6 main dps Sigewinne, do we think that Sigewinne, Ororon, Furina, Beidou/Kazuha/Xilonen work?
They made him a 4*?! Dawg what
Ororon overload?
Ik that he wont do anything exept elecro but i dont have fishl so is he good in overload?
a1 doesn't work with just overload atm
Wonder if kaz be good with him oo neuv furies kaz and ororon
yikes, I was hoping his nightsoul burst just wasn't revealed yet but looks like he really doesn't have one :(
his benefit from nightsoul burst triggering is getting nightsoul points, which gives him more A1 procs
Yay! a replacement for Fischl finally! that's 1 down, 4 to go! let's get them replaced! lol
Could this be a massive competition against NilouBloom teams? Both are used for AOE and multi-wave enemies.
nilou's blooms still do way more damage, ur good
EC is still a solid option for AoE. don't think Nilou bloom will get "outcompeted" though
when he will be playable...
Next patch, he's coming to the game alongside Chasca
@@kaiser8773 TYYY
what website is he using? (when he shows the description of ororons skill, burst ect)
homdgcat probably
for this video i used hakush.in, other times I use project amber or homdgcat
does xianyun plunges's swirls work for the passive? i was thinking of running him with fishcl furina and xianyun
she can work as anemo support, but plunging on another character won't proc vv since xianyun is off-field
C0 fischl victim 🙌
He sounding like a hard power creep for fischl
More like a sidegrade and hes niche locked
i view him as an alternative in EC. fischl is still better in like aggravate/overload
Can i use him with neuvillette electro charge
sure
NGL, he is kind of less tempting to me due to having Nilou and as a result, I have access to some of the best AOE teams in the game and Electro-charged is best in AOE.
Even still, I like Niche characters. I would love to grab him someday. Would have pulled next path but I'm saving my guarantee.
will xq work for him? I don't have kokomi yelan or any other good hydro 5*
yea xingqiu is great for off-field hydro
@@anddad thanks! planning to use a team of fischl, bennet, xq and ororon since I have those three very decently built already. who do you suggest being the driver out of those four? (the ones that can proc xq sword the most/having the fastest NA)
@@グレン-u7d if you can fit an anemo as your driver that would probably be best since they can build full EM and add swirls. otherwise, you could use fischl because of her ranged autos
Just for fun, how about neuvillette electro charge? With raiden, neuvi,ororon, and zhongli (?)
yea that team works
why is he not being built for full EM?
His damage is primarily coming from ATK scaling multipliers, there is no EM scaling in his kit.
Building EM would then be relying entirely on electrocharge reaction, which isn't impressive damagewise and more importantly is notoriously difficult to maintain ownership of.
There is the niche scenario as hyperbloom trigger if you don't have Kuki or Raiden, in which case I guess you can go full EM there, but uptime is kind of ehhhh.
Idk he doesn't seem to be anywhere near chevruse level. Maybe with C6 he gets close to a C0 chevruse. But the numbers ive seen are a little dissapointing.
charged is getting 66% buff in 5.2. so I guess the numbers might be higher
Did you forget he can run Cinder City for 40% DMG bonus to all allies?
@@MrcreeperDXD777imagine if muvika allow you to use night soul blessing to your all alies then the new natlan sets would become best after emblem or probably even better than emblem lol
@@Yhwach908 i can see that happening since Furina can enable the Hunter set on anyone as well.
with his 30% atk buff and cinder buff for electro charged team. and dont forget fischl level dmg capability he has. just wait and see how strong electro charged team when he's released.
sadly a c0 fischl victim😕
Shame he is not a 5 star… pulling a specific 4 star can take more pulls then getting a 5 star. 4 stars have no guarantee…
aight so they aint changing him for 5 :v
There is some outrage wanting to make him a five star. And honestly i dont want that. That way he is way less acessible
it's probably hoyo's own fault for the way they've been keeping new four stars hostage after first release lately. chevreuse didn't rerun for 8 months, not to mention kaveh being gone for over a year
I guess Clorinde-Furina-Ororon-Xilonen/Nahida P.amber is new Bis?
currently looks like the team will be competitive with other meta options
It's a shame he'll probably be in phase 1. Ah well, maybe on his rerun then
buffing atk when the majority of hydro characters scales with hp is odd
Nope. Ayato scales off ATK, so is Clorinde.
It favors onfield electros and the old school atk based hydros🥲
@@kanashiiinu9124more love for childe.
Can he also buff alhaitham?
With cinder city, yes.
Should be able to. Might be best quickbloom teams to trigger his A1 attacks.
Full EM cinder city Ororon can be pretty good in a Alhaitham Furina Ororon Baizhu team i think. If you dont have Baizhu, you can use yaoyao but Baizhu is much better for that team. Idk if its better than Alhaitham Furina Nahida(proto amber) Kuki teams but it should be comparable.
the problem is that alhaitham is typically played in double dendro. but with double dendro, you're not getting electro-charged uptime, so Ororon isn't going to work. only way is if they release another hydro or electro off-field subdps from natlan so nightsoul dmg can trigger ororon
Its too exaggerating to tell us that new niche 4* like him will be surpass bennet, xinqiu and xialing use in abyss. I will just see him in par with fishl. And i didnt know how much dmg electro charge or whatever the buff to the new element can be. Since im not big fan of electro and pyro combine or electro and hydro combine. Its more like another buff for neuvillete with raiden team (the much better version of any 4* electro)
yeah, i also just see him as fischl that has support potential
I don't think he surpasses Bennett, Xiangling, and Xingqiu. But there are plenty of other very top-tier 4 stars and I think Ororon has the potential to join them
to my account he is useless. Nice to know.
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I really REALLY want to pull Ororon but by god I don’t want Chasca or the other 5*, sighhh
If he's used on a team with Chasca and Xilonen, could he use a different set, or should I farm 4pc Husk for Xilonen? I just got her 4pc scroll 🥲
yea that's an interesting question. current calcs I've seen have Ororon still on 4pc scroll and they use 4pc instructor on Xilonen. but there may be other options you can do. times like this makes we wish we had the instructor set with 5* rarity
I would pull on the banner just to get my grandson 🥹