Uchimata Elbow: Practical vs Classical - Judo Mat Lab - 柔道 - 内股
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Textbook and competition uchimata often look quite different. Let's dissect some pro examples to figure out what really works.
Chapters:
0:00 Elbow up or elbow down? - Kosei Inoue & Hidehiko Yoshida
1:18 Tilting / Seesaw - Junpei Morishita
3:18 Common Errors
3:28 Overgrip & breaking posture - Ilias Iliadis
5:31 Inside grip + bump step - Yasuyuki Muneta
7:12 Defeating stiff-arms - Kana Abe
9:31 Closing comments & safety
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I swear Inoue's Uchimata at 0:46 is one of the most beautiful throws of all time! Even the way he lands and goes into his celebration looks so fluid and awesome.
This is PhD level Judo teaching...! Thanks a lot...Wish I was 20 years younger :)
There is so much perfection to work on, that you’re always going to wish that you were 20 years younger. Im way passed my prime yet still working to improve my technique.
These comprehensive analysis/breakdown/explanations are great, simply wonderful, definitely the best judo videos you can find anywhere, just love this video in particular, because it's really explains why I've had such difficulties with uchimata, and also explains why it works a lot better when I do the left uchimata in competitions even though I'm right handed :)
keep up the great work! :)
please come back judo mat lab.
This is the best "How to" Uchimata video I have ever watched.
Really appreciated all the details explanation, thank you so much!
Another great one, and on my favourite throw! You guys are becoming the best judo source on the internet. Keep it up!
I share this with everyone, so now you have to make more. :)
But seriously though, I could never pull of an uchimata in randori until I watched this, now it's one of my best combination openers. Hats off to you, sir.
+Joe Borisson That's great to hear Joe! You have no idea how happy that makes me. Feedback like this really drives me to work on these things.
At 6'3" if I were going against an opponent who is 5'10" (which is still relatively tall), to drop low enough to tuck the elbow would be entirely counterproductive. If I take a high grip, the only logical movement is the elbow up, pushing the head down. At that point, it's my sweeping leg that makes the throw happen. I can push their head down with the elbow up, but I must sweep back high enough to make uke's feet leave the mat.
+Red Dragon Diaries I am 5and 10 which is tall here and yes, classical kumi kata will never work against a smaller guy unless is a demostration---
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Remember years ago when i was a white belt, seeing this video so many times, all the joy of discover new things, this analysis blew my mind, so great memories, I never wad good at uchi mata but seeing this video I still can remember those early days in my judo club
Excellent video! In Japan, the "elbow-up" grip is referred to as the 'Tenri' grip. Besides it being a religious movement, Tenri is known as a very strong school of Judoka. I forgot his name but the style was developed by taller judoka (as your analysis pointed out that classic grips are more difficult against crouching or shorter opponents) and is used in throws like uchimata and even osoto. Famous Judoka from the Tenri school include Shinohara, Anai, and many others.
Also, Rougé, the hane-goshi expert Frenchman from many years ago, did elbow up style hip throws. He was tall.
@@JudoLife No doubt Rouge was amazing as well. I bought his masterclass book to improve my harai goshi and his tips ended up improving my ashi guruma as well.
you are doing a marvelous job here, contributing and sharing among fellow judokas, hats off for you Judo Mat Lab!
Why are you not uploading more
This is of phenomenal help
Please do the right thing and upload more oh good sir
Very detailed and clear to understand explanations!
Great job and great editing.
The controlling elbow is eye-opening to me. Thanks you so much!
Excellent video and break down of Uchi Mata. The sport and growth of Judo would grow in my opinion if general teaching took this sort of approach (classical/demonstration & practical/resisting opponent. As a Judoka; its sort of tough to watch the growth of BJJ and the popularity while Judo kind of stays stagnant.
Great stuff!! Wish I had this 10 years ago.
It shouldn't have taken me this long to find your videos, but I'm glad I found them. Great videos! Love the clear explanations with the vector arrows. Those help a lot. Keep up the great work! -new subscriber
this is fuckin outstanding. excellent analysis. i hope I'll See much more of work like this. you can learn so much from actual fights if they're just explained like this
and it's amazing that this just scratches the surface of what's going on and all the tactics and minutiae that lead to a win or loss
Thank you, whoever you are, for this brilliant breakdown!
Awesome stuff as always! This may be my favorite one yet!
Well explained :) one times i did Fell on my head (hansokumake) and it hurts so hard ! u really need to have the perfect movement and its why judo is difficult to Master !
What happen with this channel? That is an amazing stuff, I think more content like that would help a lot of people
This is the best judo breakdown I’ve seen on UA-cam keep it up and this channel will blow up!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Please share the love with your training partners :D
@@JudoMatLab please start uploading again bro 🙏
Congratulations!!!! Great job to explain The Ushimata's technique.
Wooooow this is littlerally the first time ever in the history of UA-cam that the music isn't mind numbingly bad....good job
This is probably the most helpful Judo video I've ever seen. Thanks guys!
+bstn20 Love hearin stuff like this :) Glad its been helpful for you. When I first learned this stuff, it completely changed my perspective on uchimata
Brilliant stuff!!! Keep them coming!! Also, love the tunes by Tycho ❤😊
Amazing, I though I sucked for uchi mata as I am the tallest guy and get countered for almost everyone but I´ll drop traditional version except for exams...
Uchimata the most beautiful technique of judo,i love this technique,amazing video.
+jose rodriguez Thanks Jose!
Amazing video here -- the work you put into this is incredible.
One thing I would like to point out is that for me, the key benefit of the high elbow / high collar variation is that it allows the tori to start their rotation at the same time (or even slightly before) they fit their body in place. Combined with the one-step entry, that means the tori's footwork, body fit-in, and rotation all happen in one single step. This makes the throw very untelegraphed, even from a long range.
Compare that to the traditional version of uchi-mata, which requires 2 steps to close the distance, a jarring body fit-in that disrupts the uke's balance and loads their weight, and finally the the rotation to finish the throw. In theory it's all one motion, but in practice it is not as fast or difficult to read as the high-elbow one-step version.
It's related to the ability to get around the stiff-arm, but not quite the same. Someone using the traditional uchi-mata can still get around the stiff-arm by knocking the uke's posts away, or with superior grip fighting. However, their throw will undoubtedly be slower and more telegraphed than Kosei Inoue's, which he initiates from long range.
Great training ad those arrows for the direction to pull is the best. Thank you for the details
Just found your channel. It is awesome!!! I would really like to see more videos, these are by far the best educational material I've seen on YT!!! Thanks!
Thanks! Tons of work goes into each video, so hearing stuff like this really means a lot to me.
Production of videos is on hold right now, but there'll be new content later this year.
Incredible. Thank you for the analysis. Wonderful.
Great staff many thanks.
Incredible analysis! Thank you so much!
Very nice video. I really appreciate the discussion regarding hip position (goshi vs. ashi) about mid way through the video. The throw was never about the outer leg. It’s always supposed to have been upper inner thigh. And , in fact, in competition, it always ends up there as the most common effective execution.
we need more videos like those, they're SO helpful! provide great content of understanding technique!
Thanks!! So glad to hear you liked it! Hope this helped your judo and gave you some useful insights :D
I have seen this kind of analysis done in print media but this is the first time that I have encountered it in video form. Excellent job! It must have been a lot of work to put together. Hopefully, something similar can be done for all of judo , including hold-downs and submission techniques.
Excellent Left on Right explanations
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Très belle vidéo avec beaucoup d'explications. Merci à vous.
Really it's a very helpful video to me and those who really analysis yourself
Good job👍💯
Glad it's helped you! Feedback like this makes all the hours of work worthwhile
Thnx. apreciated. grt stuff btw. best ive seen on uchimata. personally i think its also the dashing in and the invilvemenet of the whole torso that make it more of a goshi type throw. hybrib throws are the future of judo. :)
Nice work as always.
Very good breakdown 👍
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Good content as usual.
Excelent analysis! Best in youtube!
Your videos are gold
Great analysis
Love the analysis...superb
What a great video!
Will you be back at posting? Please keep up with this amazing work.
I don't know if I'll ever get back to making videos :( I'm in grad school now, so my video making days might be over. I hope someday another youtuber comes out with great videos and credits me as a source of inspiration haha
Brilliant Analysis! I suck at Uchi-mata. thanks for the video.
Great analysis! I've always been struggling with uchi-mata - I would lift the leg of the dude and then we're just bunny-hopping around, both of us on one leg. I couldn't understand how those brown belt thugs make me fly like it's nothing. This video should really help me improve my technique.
thank you very much ,, i liked it all
eyes wide open while foaming at the mouth yelling "MOAR VIDEOS!!!"@_@
What a great video, thank you.
+Relic Wessels glad you enjoyed it :) thanks for watching and please share with your friends
Excellent! Thank you.
Great video! Love the detailed analysis
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it!
thank you, that's what i looking for, very nice !
JESUS special video 😇
awesome video
Very good video
wonderful man... good work
Thank you!
Very instrutive...,
best analysis!
High elbow uchi mata is the standard in competition, but it's quite dangerous to teach to non-competitors because a failed attack can result in landing on your face or head.
For competitors, they have really good reactions and can post their hands or turn their head to land more on their shoulders, and even when they do land on their head they have really strong necks. But for the average practitioner, it can result in a concussion or a serious neck injury.
I am shocked that Shohei Ono (one of my favorite competitors) has never been penalized for his head diving uchimata.
The beat making me read all the captions in a Slick Rick voice
Great analysis. Subbed! :)
Awesome stuff
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video!
amazing analysis! thank you :)
thanks! I really enjoyed making this video :) a lot of love and work went into it
That last Uchi Mata was art honestly.
I couldn't agree more. That was a fun one to analyze haha
@@JudoMatLab Hey, I think Im speaking for everyone that we miss your videos. Is there any chance for a comeback?
@@ChrisRoooock oh yes please! Sitting at home with months without judo during corona this is something to lift the spirit and to develope our understanding of Judo. Please keep up the great work!
Great video, I never understood why international judokas used the top grip. Excellent explanation!
Thanks Thomas! For years, I was confused by the prevalence and success of outside and top grips. I'm truly grateful to the instructors who explained and detailed this to me. I knew I had to share this knowledge with more judoka :)
Bro still doing vids?
I remember doing the elbow up when I was a beginner and got scolded since it may damage my shoulder. But after 2 years, my coach never say anything probably he knows I can sense my limit. It’s an awkward break balance for sure.
thanks
Nice vid. Your right people should teach this style if their judoka are entering comps. I have pulled off the text book uchimata against lower level comp and rondori on taller opponents. But this is the more effective technique on same size or shorter opposition. Have you done a video on setups or combinations for uchimata or morote seoi?
+79outlaw There's two videos on combinations but they're more conceptual than throw specific. And the set-ups shown are more linear, haven't covered circular stuff.
Love your vids ! Will you guys do one on ashi waza ? Could be helpful !
+Lucas Peclat Thanks Lucas! Theres a very specific ashi-waza video thats in the works, but everything has been on hold for a while. For now, the ashi-waza content is more combination centric
WTF 2YEARS AGO
DIRECTIR ,WHY CHANNEL IS DEAD? THAT WAS NICE IDEA
Does anyone know which inner though you should aim for....does that mean opponents left leg, right leg, down the middle, depends on stance?
Depends on many factors. My instructors taught me to aim for the middle, so that's what I recommend. But there's many styles of uchimata and there's countless factors that come into play.
Great video! How then should one practice uchimata in uchikomi/nagekomi? With the traditional technique or this competition technique?
This gets into a whole additional topic that I wish I knew more about and had time to make a video on. I've seen some videos of Koreans teaching uchimata broken down into smaller steps that help build up to this competition style of uchimata.
Personally, I like having uke start bent forward during uchikomi/nagekomi. This helps students work on the body movement rather than using their arms too much or with too much stiffness. Having uke bent forward simulates a situation where tori has already created a good setup/situation for uchimata and can focus/practice on just the mechanics of the throw (pushing uke's head down/forward and elevating uke's hips with the leg sweep). I hope these tips help! This is just my personal preference on how to help people learn the basic mechanics of uchimata in an ideal scenario.
Excellent
You must continu posting videos
This is not the matlab I expected, nor the mat lab I deserved
haha I'm glad you get the name :)
@@JudoMatLab You were doing god's work dude, mad respect
@@JudoMatLab Wish you could have more of these videos!
It seems pretty simple to me: the reap takes precedence over the elbow leverage. It will almost always be more effective that way.
+Tomás Martínez Roeske Yes, I rather focus on body motion and off-balance rather than elbow loading & strength. Gotta look at the mechanics of the throw and figure out what fits into and complements that action.
Do must judo throws assume that the opponent is larger? This is prolly why i struggled with perfect technique as a taller guy
Some techniques work much better as the taller player. Much depends on the style and preference of your instructors. Tall players have advantages like being able to control the opponent's head well (among many other things).
What should the high-elbow hand be doing during the throw? Should that hand be making a pulling action to try to maintain body contact or should it just be to maintain a grip? I feel like when I try to exert any type of action with that high-elbow arm for this uchi mata i put a lot of strain on my rotator cuff
Hey, I know this is a year old comment and you've probably figured it out by now, but I'd still like to drop my thoughts for anyone else reading.
I believe the answer to your question is nothing. You do nothing with that arm. The only reason for you to drive your elbow up/sideways is to remove your shoulder and arm from blocking you into entering the proper throwing position.
It's not the lapel hand that makes uchimata work. It's entering the proper throwing position and gluing uke to yourself, reaping the leg, rotating your torso and pulling uke's sleeve.
When you understand this, it's also easy to understand why an over-the-top grip is so effective for uchimata, as well as harai goshi and ashi guruma.
@@Bl2EAKINThank you for the response! Yeah, I figured out in a lot of testing on how that arm should behave. It really is just doing "nothing" for everyone else reading this. I initially use a big pull for kuzushi and to get myself into position then lean + tilt which lifts Uke off the ground. From there it's just a matter of rotation to complete the throw
Would it be reasonable to call Abe's throw something else, since even in explanation it's described as lift on hips and not leg?
Grt video. but whats the song in the first half?
Walter White Blockhead - Carnivores Unite
Nice work buddy, its sad you didn't kept up with it.
Regardless of your purpose making and uploading the videos, you can make a fortune monetizing these videos
Thanks! I'll get back to making these, just taking a break for a while. Since I don't own any of this footage, I can't monetize the youtube views. I am planning on starting a Patreon account once I get back at it tho. Hoping I can count on your support in the future :)
+Judo Mat Lab Happy to tip anytime..
I would contribute SO HARD, as a BJJ guy who doesn't have any good judo around.
ditto, I'd rep a Judo Mat Lab t-shirt or patch
much appreciated! When I get back to making videos, I'll start up a patreon account for all you grappling junkies to donate on. You'll get your chance to put your money where your mouth is haha. I'm really happy to hear you've enjoyed/benefited from my videos. Part of why I created all this stuff is to share practical judo concepts with ALL grapplers, not just judo people. I'm jealous that BJJ has so many incredible competitors and teachers who show techniques online and make BJJ much more accessible than judo or wrestling.
Top Stuff. My 5 clubs will see this. Thanks
what about harai?
+Michael Pan I don't know enough about harai to make a video yet. With harai you see a lot of the same arm action as uchimata though
great video, unfortunately i'm watching this after I left Judo lol...
Sorry to hear you don't do judo anymore.
Part of why I make these videos is so that someday, when I can no longer train, I will still have a persisting contribution to the judo community. And hopefully for people who cannot train, they can still learn and enjoy judo :)
Make more videos. Don't let people shut you up by revealing these secrets.
Ultra super omega Thanks
Aaaa my head is exploding! Mind blown, and to good music to boot. Happy to see Iliadis in there.
Took me half an hour to watch the 10 minute video.
+FlyMRIMicroscopy SAME!
I believe that's Kosei Ono
judo matlab you are my sensei ;)
haha you are too kind :)
New videos? Please…..
Sorry to say grad school has shelved judo practice and video editing for me :( Hope the videos have been helpful for you and your training partners!
Why do you stop uploading knew videos .. i am very sorry
I started grad school haha
Have you finish your grade school 😅
Your videos are very useful & importants
@@JudoMatLab Have you finished studying or are you still studying 😀?
This example of Uchi-Mata was also taught by non other than Koji Komuro:
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